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CABLE EFFECTS ON SNR FOR XCAL UPGRADE ON LHCb. Eduardo Picatoste Calorimeter Electronics Upgrade Meeting. OUTLINE. Cable effects on SNR Skin effect Introduction Signal attenuation Impedance after the cable Cable resistance due to skin effect Noise contribution Conclusions. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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CABLE EFFECTS ON SNR FOR XCAL UPGRADE ON LHCb

Eduardo PicatosteCalorimeter Electronics Upgrade Meeting

4/December/2009 LHCb Upgrade 2

OUTLINE

• Cable effects on SNR

• Skin effect– Introduction– Signal attenuation– Impedance after the cable– Cable resistance due to skin effect– Noise contribution

• Conclusions

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• Cables provide some constraints when fast shaping signals• Cable effects on SNR:

– Attenuation due to the skin effect long tail in the step response of the cable part of the signal is delayed and does not contribute

– Resistance of the cables noise source distributed along the cable

Cable effects on SNR

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• Skin effect:– Tendency of AC current to distribute itself within a

conductor so that the current density near the surface of it is greater than at its core

– f↑ → R↑

• Define penetration or “skin” depth δ as the distance over which the current falls 1/e of its original value:

• Skin effect is due to the circulating eddy currents cancelling the current flow in the center of a conductor and reinforcing it in the surface

Skin effect: introduction

2

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• Signal attenuation due to skin effect– Resistance per unit length RS:

– It can be shown that the internal cable impedance becomes:

– Transmission line characteristic impedance for high ω :

– Transfer function of a length of line:

Skin effect: signal attenuation

2

1 D

RS

jD

LjRZ iSS ...

C

L

Cj

LjZZ S

0

ljLC

jDZ

l

l eeexV

lxV

02

,

,

jLCjDZ

CjLjZS 02

Propagation constant

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• Signal attenuation due to skin effect (continued)– Inverse Fourier transform:

– And the step response of the transmission line:

Skin effect: signal attenuation

tUetth t42

30

1

0

2

withWZ

l

00 2

terfctu 0

1 2

1

Introduction of long time constants → strong attenuation of the signal transmitted

through the cable

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• Study two options for the detector impedance with different length cables and frequencies:– Detector capacitance: Zd=1/jCw

– Clipping line at the PMT output: Zd=Rd

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

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• Impedance seen after x m of cable towards the detector when Zd=1/jCw:

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

xtghCj

R

xtghRCj

RxZ

d

d

1

1

,

0

0

0

00

0

0

0

0

00

,

1,

,

1,

,

1~,

RxZ

CjxZ

RxZ

CjxZ

RxZ

l

RxZ

x

d

x

x

d

x

50 Ohm

50 Ohm

1

~

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• Impedance seen after x m of cable towards the detector when Zd=1/jCw:

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

20 m

12 m1 m

5 m50 Ohm

1

~

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• Phase seen after x m of cable towards the detector when Zd=1/jCw:

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

20 m

12 m1 m

5 m

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• Impedance seen after x m of cable towards the detector when Zd=1/jCw:

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

100 MHz

50 MHz1 MHz

10 MHz

50 Ohm

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• Phase seen after x m of cable towards the detector when Zd=1/jCw:

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

100 MHz

50 MHz1 MHz

10 MHz

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• Impedance seen after x m of cable towards the detector when Zd=Rd:

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

xtghRR

xtghRRRxZ

d

d

0

00,

00

0

0

0

0

0

,

,

,

,

,

,

RxZ

RxZ

RxZ

RxZ

RxZ

RxZ

x

d

x

x

dx

d

50 Ohm

25 Ohm

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• Impedance seen after x m of cable towards the detector when Zd=Rd:

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

20 m

12 m1 m

5 m

50 Ohm

25 Ohm

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• Phase seen after x m of cable towards the detector when Zd=Rd:

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

20 m

12 m1 m

5 m

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CONCLUSIONS:• As expected, for

– Very short cables, Z≈Zd

– Long cables, Z≈Z0

• Impedance seen after 12 m of cable towards the detector when Zd=1/jCw:

f < 1 kHz → |Z| ~ 1/√ω

1 kHz < f < 2-3 MHz → |Z| ~ 1/jωCd (as without the cable)

2-3 MHz < f < 1 GHz → |Z| oscillates between 2 and 200Ω

f > 1 GHz → |Z| ~ 50Ω

• Impedance seen after 12 m of cable towards the detector when Zd= Rd :

f < 2-3 MHz → |Z| ~ Rd (as without the cable)

2-3 MHz < f < 1 GHz → |Z| oscillates between 25 and 100Ω

f > 1 GHz → |Z| ~ 50Ω

Skin effect: impedance after the cable

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• Resistance per unit length RS:

• Skin effect resistor Rs values:– Freq high enough to suppose

current only on the cable surface

– D = 0.48 mm

– μCu ≈ μ0 = 1.26*10-6 H/m

– σCu = 5.96*107 S/m

Skin effect: cable resistance

2

1 D

RS

0,00

0,20

0,40

0,60

0,80

1,00

1,20

1,40

1,60

1,80

1,00E+06 1,00E+07 1,00E+08

f (Hz)

Rs

(O

hm

/m)

0

5

10

15

20

25

1,00E+06 1,00E+07 1,00E+08

f (Hz)

Rs

(O

hm

)c

ab

le le

ng

th =

12

m

Rs per length unit

Rs for a 12 m cable

Cable used: coaxial KX3B

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Skin effect: noise contribution

• Noise generator per unit length:

– Propagation constant (rearranged):

0

0,1

0,2

0,3

0,4

0,5

0,6

0,7

1,00E+06 1,00E+07 1,00E+08

f (Hz)

en

(V

*Hz^

-0.5

)

fKTRfê Sn 42

p

S

vj

R

R 02

Plot en (nV/√Hz):

•Temperature: 300 K

•Cable length: 12 m

•Fast shaping times approximation:

-Skin effect noise ~ single noise generator at preamp input

-Aproximate RS at preamp+shaper central frequency

RS 18 ≃ Ω

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Zd preamp

Noise current

• The noise current per unit length at position x (^ means per unit length):

– From which we can obtain in2 integrating over the length of all the cable from the detector to the preamp:

– In the case of the clipping line (Zd=Rd):

22

0

22

,

1 xlnn e

RxZêxî

dxxîil

nn 0

22

leRR

eeRR

eRR

RRR

êi l

d

ll

d

l

d

d

nn

2sin12

2

1

4222

0

24

0

42

020

20

22

xtghZR

xtghRZRZ

vj

R

RD

R

KTRê

d

d

p

S

S

Sn

0

00

0

2

2

2

1

4

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• Noise current generated by the cable In the case of the clipping line (Zd=Rd):

Calculated skin effect noise current

Calculations validity

f >> 18.4 kHz

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• Noise current generated by the cable in the case without clipping line (Zd=1/jCdw):

Calculated skin effect noise current

Calculations validity

f >> 18.4 kHz

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• Case of clipping line and current amp• On David’s talk, all amp PSD is calculated:

– Transimpedance gain ZT=500Ω

• PSD of the cable (skin effect) after the preamp:

– We can use the previous result (slide 16), or

– A lumped resistor at about 18Ω:

Skin effect: PSD calculation

nTno iZcablee

2

0

2 4

ZR

KTRi

S

Seni tRs

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Skin effect simulated noise

Cadence Spectre simulation circuit with mtline:

Parameter Name Value

Cable physical length l 12 m

Normalized velocity v 0.659 c

Corner frequency: f at which skin depth = conductor’s width

fcorner 18.446 kHz

DC series resistance per unit length RDC 0.031 Ω/m

Conductor loss measurement frequency

fc 200 MHz

Conductor series resistance per unit length at fc

RS 2.411 Ω/m

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Skin effect simulated noise

• Cadence Spectre simulation circuit with mtline and different lengthes (from 0.1 to 100 m):

- with clipping line (Zd = Rd)

- without clipping line (Zd = 1/jCdω)

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• Comparison between Zd=1/jCdω and Zd=Rd for a cable of 12m calculation, simulation, and RS=18Ω lumped approximation:

Skin effect generated noise

Calculations validity

fcorner >> 18.4 kHz

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• Comparison between Zd=1/jCdw and Zd=Rd for a cable of 12m after integration:

Skin effect generated noise

Calculations validity

fcorner >> 18.4 kHz

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• 2 main cable effects on SNR:– Attenuation due to the skin effect:

• long tail in the step response of the cable • part of the signal is delayed and does not contribute

– Increase of resistance of the cables• noise source distributed along the cable

• Impedance for a 12m cable at 2-3 MHz < f < 1 GHz– Zd=1/jCw: |Z| oscillates between 2 and 200 Ω– Zd= Rd : |Z| oscillates between 25 and 100 Ω

• Calculated and simulated skin effect generated noise offer more precision than the approximation with a lumped resistor at preamp input

• Noise calculations are valid for f >> fcorner = 18.4 kHz

• Calculated and simulated noise due to skin effect is low enough

Conclusions

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