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Page 1: 17 August 2019, Hadron 2019, Guilin, China · Deshpande, He, WSH, Pakvasa, PRL’99 - “Possibility of Large Final State Interaction Phases in Light of B → Kπ, ππ Decays”

incl. DCPV George W.S. Hou (NTU) HADRON, Guilin 190817 1

Curious Link of Exclusive & Inclusive

CPV in Charmless 3-body B+ Decays

17 August 2019, Hadron 2019, Guilin, China

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I. The Striking Plot, and a Curiosity

II. FSI: elastic vs inelastic

III. FSI: soft vs hard

IV. Unitarity/CPT at Quark Level: a 30-yr “Sum Rule”

V. Conclusion

Gérard and WSH, PRL’89PRD’91

Curious Link of Exclusive & Inclusive CPV in Charmless 3-body B+ Decays

‒ CPT and inelastic hadron scattering‒ a Critique

LHCb 1408.5373 (PRD)

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I. The Striking Plot, and a Curiosity

CPV

(u,) c

Bander, Silverman, Soni, PRL’79

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KKK Kππ

πππ πKK

• strikingly large CPV

• strong variations in DP

LHCb 1408.5373 (PRD)

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KKK Kππ

πππ πKK

• strikingly large CPV

• strong variations in DP

KKK Kππ

πππ πKK

bins w/ same # evts

181k 109k

25k 6k

LHCb 1408.5373 (PRD)

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KKK Kππ

πππ πKK

• strikingly large CPV

• strong variations in DPbins w/ same # evts

BR (10‒5) 5.1

3.4

1.5

0.5

0.3% (b → s)

1.1% (b → d)

a Curiosity + 2.7 ± 0.8% (PDG)

‒ 3.3 ± 0.8%

+ 5.7 ± 1.3%

‒12.2 ± 2.1%

LHCb 1408.5373 (PRD)

sub-percent

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Gérard and WSH, PRD’91

181k

109k

25k

6k

s

d

Gérard and WSH, PRL’89

(u,) c

LHCb 1408.5373 (PRD)

BR (10‒5) 5.1

3.4

1.5

0.5

0.3% (b → s)

1.1% (b → d)

a Curiosity + 2.7 ± 0.8% (PDG)

‒ 3.3 ± 0.8%

+ 5.7 ± 1.3%

‒12.2 ± 2.1%

~ 0.12, 0.35

sub-percent

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II. FSI: elastic vs inelastic

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Observation of the Color-Suppressed Decay Belle, PRL’02

Experiment-driven take on Final State Interactions

“Spectator”

Color-suppressed

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Observation of the Color-Suppressed Decay Belle, PRL’02

Experiment-driven take on Final State Interactions

“Spectator”

Color-suppressed

• Meson loops: how does it work when far off-shell?

• Went on to Inelastic, for sake of “charmless” (e.g. Kπ)

diagramatics is cherry-picking and arbitrary.

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I’m not at all adverse to Final State Interactions

Belle, PRL’02

- “Prospects for direct CP violation in exclusive and inclusive charmless B decays”

He, WSH, Yang, PRL’98- “Electroweak Penguins, FSI Phases, and CP Violation in B → Kπ Decays”

Deshpande, He, WSH, Pakvasa, PRL’99

- “Possibility of Large Final State Interaction Phases in Light of B → Kπ, ππ Decays”

WSH, Yang, PRL’00

- “Indication for Large Rescatterings in Charmless Rare B Decays”

Chua, WSH, Yang, MPLA’03

Observation of the Color-Suppressed Decay

CLEO Era

2004: DCPV in B Observed !Belle*BaBar

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III. FSI: soft vs hard

- CPT and inelastic hadron scattering- Some Critique

KKK Kππ

πππ πKK

• strikingly large CPV

• strong variations in DP

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“All the inelasticity of the ππ interaction goes into the KK channel”?

Not Quite.

(1, 2.2) GeV2

Alberto dos Reis@ Hadron 2015

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“All the inelasticity of the ππ interaction goes into the KK channel”?

Not Quite.

(1, 2.2) GeV2

KKnπ thresholds

n = 0, 1, 2, 3

“soft”

Alberto dos Reis@ Hadron 2015

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“All the inelasticity of the ππ interaction goes into the KK channel”?(1, 2.2) GeV2

KKnπ thresholds

n = 0, 1, 2, 3

Not Quite.

“soft”

Alberto dos Reis@ Hadron 2015

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“All the inelasticity of the ππ interaction goes into the KK channel”?(1, 2.2) GeV2

KKnπ thresholds

n = 0, 1, 2, 3

Not Quite.

stru

ctur

e

structure

“soft”

Alberto dos Reis@ Hadron 2015

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structure

cc(bar)

“soft”:

hard : cc(bar) ‒ annihilate

hard: cc(bar) to qq(bar)

LHCb 1408.5373 (PRD)

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IV. Unitarity/CPT at Quark Level

a 30-yr “Sum Rule”

Gérard and WSH, PRL’89PRD’91

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Bander, Silverman, Soni, PRL’79

X

Unitarity/CPT at Quark Level

Gérard and WSH, PRD’91

needed

Gérard and WSH, PRL’89

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Unitarity/CPT at Quark Level

Gérard and WSH, PRD’91

BSS

Pure-P DCPV CPT/Unitarity

BSS

BSS

w/ P-P CPV

w/ P-P CPV

inclusive b → s/d CPV should vanish for 2mc > mb

Purposed

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a 30-yr “Sum Rule”

Gérard and WSH, PRL’89

s

d

Gérard and WSH, PRD’91

inclusive b → s/d CPV sub-%: 2mc threshold-suppress

[b → sgg absent]

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Gérard and WSH, PRD’91

LHCb 1408.5373 (PRD)

0.3% (b → s)

1.1% (b → d)

a Curiosity + 2.7 ± 0.8% (PDG)

‒ 3.3 ± 0.8%

+ 5.7 ± 1.3%

‒12.2 ± 2.1%

s

d

~ 0.12, 0.35

s ud(bar) u(bar)d

s us(bar) u(bar)s

d ud(bar) u(bar)d

d us(bar) u(bar)s

Pure Penguin DCPV picked up by LHCb measurement

sub-percent

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Gérard and WSH, PRD’91

s

d

~ 0.12, 0.35

Improving the Inclusive DCPV Theory

• Interested theorists can try (a bit muddied/complicated).

• Need to consider b → sg, known to be ~ 0.5% (b → sqq(bar) ~ 1%).

- But “on-shell” gluon does not give much absorptive parts, how to incorporate?

- In what part of “h’+h‒h+” Dalitz Plot does b → sg interfere with b → sqq(bar)?

Greub and Linniger, PLB’00, PRD’01

• Near cancellation guaranteed by the strength of absorptive part of Penguin.

Interesting to see experimental development and further affirmation.

WSH, NPB’88

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V. Conclusion

• LHCb’14 Observation of B+ → h′+h‒h+ 3-body DCPV

• From “CP violation in inclusive and exclusive charmless B decays”

Gérard and WSH, PRD’91

- Large CPV, strongly varying across Darlitz Plot

- Inclusive CPV for B+ → K+h‒h+ and B+ → π+h‒h+ @ sub%

LHCb has affirmed 30-yr DCPV “Sum Rule”

and affirmed quark-hadron duality incharmless 3-body B+ decay CPV

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