Dissolution of borders sounds like anarchism or advocating a One World Government -neither of which I

want!

Here is where I have no shame in saying fences, and borders need to exist and I don't believe all people

should have freedom of movement. The right to personal life & liberty trumps somebodys right to

come into your home, school, hospital or country and spreading TB and other dangers.

I don't believe criminals should have the right to freedom of movement either.

According to W.H.O, there are over 2 Billion people in the world with Tuberculosis ( TB). Even if just 10

million people came into Canada with TB , it would cause a catastrophic financial and healthcare

nightmare. Ever hear the phrase put the oxygen mask on yourself first before applying to another

We have to secure our nations wellbeing if we ever want to help less fortunate people.

Since Canada has universal healthcare, Im sure hundreds of millions of people around the world would

flock to Canada so we can pay for their medical problems, which would bankrupt us in days and drive

away all our healthcare workers to other countries. I got the mumps in December, I dont want to get

TB as well!

Lets look at our neighbours to the south who have essentially an open southern border

Illegal Immigrants kill thousands of Americans every year! Illegal Alien drunk drivers kill 13 Americans

every day thats a death toll of 4,745 per year!

http://www.constitutionparty.com/illegal-alien-crime-and-violence-by-the-numbers-were-all-victims/

Is United States an example you want to follow?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/06/illegal-alien-rapists-child-molesters-freed-in-u-s-instead-of-

deported/

So, stringent immigration screening and discriminatory practices are necessary to protect Canadians

from rapists, murderers, disease carriers, polluters, scam artists etc.

Mikael Hellstrm, Youre wrong, IT IS A ZERO SUM GAME --- there is a finite amount of arable land, and

a finite amount of water, and a finite amount of natural resources. Just look at China or India, to see

what will happen to Canada if its free game. Sure, China has increased trade (economic wealth) within

Africa and Latin America, but they are also laying down a scorched earth policy too, and have no regard

for the people or the land.

Clean air and drinking water rank above economic wealth or economic growth! Look up the

environmental degradation occurring in Countries China invests in. There comes a tipping point when

environmental disregard WILL also affect precious economic growth,

http://www.cfr.org/china/scorched-earth-environmental-risks-china-overwhelm-its-

opportunities/p13514

You say you believe in it for self interest? How will you ensure that? Even if your theory is right and you

increase "economic growth", it doesn't mean it will benefit anybody except a handful of people.

Routinely corporations earn profits of Billions and decide to lay off thousands of people so they can

increase their profit more in the next quarter.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/td-latest-bank-to-earn-billions-and-dole-out-job-cuts-1.3044324

Some of the most well off nations in the world Mikael are isolationist nations, so you're theory of

free movement is better is bunk. Dont you ever wonder how Island nations like Japan are so well

off despite them being an isolationist and Island nation? Exponential or perpetual growth being good

is a fallacy, as exponential growth is tied to inflation, which is essentially perpetual devaluing of your

labour and savings.

Yes there is evidence that culture is destroyed, Prosperity is not a number, and its not about increasing

your GDP Mikael. There is a reason why hundreds of millions of Indians and Chinese would flood into

Canada if we let them; even though their home countries have the highest economic growth rate in the

world, and have some of the top GDP in the world.

ECONOMIC GROWTH IS NOT PROSPERITY! Economic growth and GDP increases in current G20 nations

has little to do with improving household debt, liberty, happiness, mental health, physical health, family

unit cohesiveness, clean air, clean water, or cultural preservation! Exponential growth is unsustainable.

Mikael you ask: Where is an example of how free movement and mass migration destroys culture

World history, read it! Read up on the history of Islam, USSR, U.S.A, Roman Empire, British Empire,

Ottomon Empire, China, or the Catholic Church.

Look at United States for an easy example: Americans refused to accept the Royal Proclamation.

http://indigenousfoundations.arts.ubc.ca/home/government-policy/royal-proclamation-1763.html

The American Colonists declaration of independence stated they wanted to be free from Britain because

they felt The King was unfairly restricting their freedom of movement to move west to colonize and

subdue the savage land and savage people west of the Mississippi. Britain didn't allow the colonists

request of freedom of movement, because they knew it would mean conflict with indigenous

population, and Britain would have to set up military bases and play peacekeeper in a harsh frontier. .

The American colonists thought they should have the right to freedom of movement, and mass

migration occurred west of the Mississippi and the inevitable slaughter and destruction of numerous

and unique people and cultures occurred.

How often do you chat with somebody in the Mohawk or Blackfoot language Mikael?

With mass immigration and free movement comes problems and clashes of religion and culture. In

1975, Swedish Parliament Unanimously decided to change the formerly homogenous Sweden into a

multicultural country. Their population has increased 20 percent since, mostly due to immigration from

Islamic countries. Since then, violent crime has increased by 300% and rapes by 1,472%. Sweden is now

number two on the list of rape countries, surpassed only by Lesotho in Southern Africa.

Sweden's Economic Growth has improved though; their GDP has quadrupled since 1985, so things must

be better! Its worth it!

The Reality is, Altruism and Apathy is destroying Sweden despite Swedens GDP, or economic

growth.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

You questioned where is my proof that dissolution of borders hurt the middle class .. It's all around

you! The immigrants Canada brings in now are selected through discriminatory process as it is, yet

immigrants cost Canadian tax payers 23 Billion dollars a year! That is money out of the Canadian

taxpayers pocket! While over 70 percent of immigrants are net fiscal drains!

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/immigrants-cost-23b-a-year-fraser-institute-report

Yet, you think it would be better if we didn't even have an immigration process or borders to begin

with?

Even fellow professors agree with me regarding the loose TFW program.

http://www.caut.ca/news/2015/02/14/profs-group-critical-of-university-exemption-from-temporary-

foreign-worker-rule

Our borders are already dissolving more every year and it has not been a good thing! As I mentioned in

previous post, the TFW and express entry program is essentially only possible due to the total disregard

for our borders and sovereignty. These programs are not helping the average Canadian at all. As I

mentioned and linked in previous post, 24 billion dollars are sent out of the country by TFW's. Im not

even accounting for ex-TFWs in the country illegally that are working under the table.

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Remittances+billion+year+sent+home+from+Canada/1008029

0/story.html

Economic Growth is merely the amount of goods and services produced, there is nothing inherently

good about it! Slavery was indispensable to European development of the New World. It is

inconceivable that European colonists could have settled and developed North and South America and

the Caribbean without slave labor. Moreover, slave labor did produce the major consumer goods that

were the basis of world trade during the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries: coffee, cotton, rum,

sugar, and tobacco.

In the pre-Civil War United States, a stronger case can be made that slavery played a critical role in

economic development. One crop, slave-grown cotton provided over half of all U.S. export earnings. By

1840, the South grew 60 percent of the world's cotton and provided some 70 percent of the cotton

consumed by the British textile industry. Thus slavery paid for a substantial share of the capital, iron,

and manufactured good that laid the basis for American economic growth. In addition, precisely

because the South specialized in cotton production, the North developed a variety of businesses that

provided services for the slave South, including textile factories, a meat processing industry, insurance

companies, shippers, and cotton brokers.

Maybe we should implement that policy if it's good for Economic Growth, therefore good for

everybody??? ..Well, except for us working slaves, and all the people who can't get at a living wage

because of slave labour artificially lowering compensation and competitiveness, screw em though,

onward with Economic Growth!

What good is economic growth if it means everybody has to work 70 hours a week, and there can no

longer be a nuclear family?

Inflation of goods greater than wage increases is essentially theft and slavery. Who cares if Canadas

GDP increases, if salaries stagnate and goods prices inflate?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-21/30-facts-prove-american-middle-class-being-destroyed

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-08-19/only-rich-know-wage-gains-with-no-raises-for-

u-s-workers

Economic Growth being good for everybody is where you are dead wrong. The American GDP has

increased every year since 1960. Would you consider them better off? Their GDP has been increasing,

but the wealth gap has been increasing dramatically as well!

Look at the American middle class, and since their southern Border is non-existent, the rich have been

getting richer, and the middle class destroyed.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-

for-decades/

I ask again, if you don't believe borders should exist, you shouldnt lock your doors and prevent other

peoples freedom of movement live and prove your theory !.

To think all humans are good people, healthy, and can contribute positively to their environment is just

dreamland Star Trek fantasy thinking. Fences, land rights, prisons and quarantines, are necessary for the

survival of civilisation.