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WLB 6-FEB-73 LO:24 Re 14289: Pa rial Copies
~y initial reaction Is that we now have a stable and extremely reliable NLS :file system, and that it would be craz.y to monkey with It without very convincing evid~ncc that we can do better ~ In ~he past ~ew .onths r can remember DO more than one case where { have lost a ~lle due to a system crash and no case in which the partial CODY mecho,nlSm ha~ proved ob n oxious . TENEX certuinly Is not retiahl.e enough to move to a n y system which is more sUBceptabte to crushes th an the current one . Maybe some system can be devised thftt rung prior to archJ vin g , marking :files which are toc ked -for SI) ecial. 'treatrnen1 - e . g ., notifyin g l ocke r that a locked lite has archive pending and shol,l d be updated to assure proper handling. It's clear , though , that [ don ' t have a su~tlclent awareness o~ the problems prompti n g consideration of a redesl@n to be able to contribute mo r e at this t1me.
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(Jt 4314, 6-FEB-73 1.0: 24 ; Title: Author(s): Boss , Wa lt/ . L B ; Dist ri bution: Victor, Kenneth E . ( Ke n), Wh ite, J~meB E . (Jim), Dornbush , Charles F., Michael, ElIzabeth K., Vallee , Jacques F., Mi~chell, Ja~es CoO , Deutsch, L'O Peter , Kaye , Diane S ., Andrews, Oo n t" f Aags, Wa lt, Hopper, J. D., [rhy, H . Charles , Lehtmo.n, Har vey G. , Watson , Ric hard ,, 'O, Kudl. i ck. , lIHchael D., Norton, JaUles C ., Engelhart , Doug l as C . r Ferguson , FerA" R •• Wo.lluce , Donald C . ( Smokey), Victor, Kenneth E . (Ken', Mltchell, James G ., Deutsch, L . Peter , Van Nouhuys , Di r k H./npg rww mdk .len dee tenext Jp;m lpd dvn ; S ub-Cot teet i ons : SRI -ARC NPG ~ENEXT; Clerk: WLB ;
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WLB 6-FF.b-73 10:33 {dent System Bup:
When I try to mod 1 iy t he I den t reeo rd .for g roups 0 t which J tun the coordinator, 1 f(et the messag e " Nugt be g roup cordinatorrslc]I'. This Jus~ does"l~ strike me as being quite :fa ir
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(J143 IS ) 6 - FER-7 J 10: 33 ~ TI tle: Author(s) : Bass , W",lt/YLBj Distribution: Kuye, Olarle S ., Lchtman , Harv ey G., lrby, H. Cha rtes, [rhy , H. Charl es , Hoppe r, J . D./ BUGS CHI JDH; Sub- Co llo c tlons: SR I-ARC BUGS; C l e rk: WLB;
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JCN 8 FEB 71 l: 49Pu 14 3 16 Main"tenance Requpst : Window "for Projection TV I.n J2077
To: S~J Maintenance! from Jim Norton , ARC ext 2142
please pe r .form the work outl in ed below in room .J2077 , the ARC Conference roolfl . This wjll pe rmit usp of" our p roject ion TV :from an adjacent spac p , removing distract ing noIse Irom the co n~ e r ence
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J eN R FEB 7 J 1 : 4BpM 14316 Nu jnt c nancp Request: Wlndow ~or P rojection TV in J2071
(J143 161 7-PED-738 :01; Ti1:1e! D istrIbution: Har~Yt Mo rtln B./ MRR JeN
Author f s): Norton , J~mes C./JCN ; S Ub - Collections: SRI -A RC ; Cle rk:
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NWG/ RPC ,t;t 453 MDK 7-FFB-7 3 9 :1 0 143 17 Meetin~ Announc e.ent to Discuss a Network Mu il Syste~
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The purpose o~ this RFC is to ann()unce n muctlng at SRJ - ARC on the Network ~a ll r obtem d .lscussed a1 the January 19 7 3 Princ i pal rnveqtl ~a tors' ~eet ln~ In Sa n Diego .
We have 8: 30 AW needed ,
set the moel ln n ~or Thursrloy, Fe ~ ruory 22 , 1 9 7 1 , at in t hf> SRI -A IlC confe r ence room . 11" a '9Pcond day Is Friday wou ld be u~ed.
The a~cn da will Includo a d i scuss ion o~ tIle p roble m, and a rllscuBslon of al1ern a t e solutIon s .
Tbe 1[0 0 , 1 0 f' th~ ~eet ln g what the solution ou["h 1. and wl,o should do wh a t.
13 to produce a c l ear def inition o~ t o he , wha t ~tep~ have to bp tak en ,
The r esul t s o£ the mpeting wIll be publi shpd as an RFC tor _further d lalo~ue, as Is done w lt h other st1~nested p rotocolq .
Aspects 01" the Problem
Thpre are atre~dy sf- verat subsystemq exist1nll on the Network whose function Is to send and receive ~all .
The principal p r ob lem i s to coo r d inate a nd ex 1 end these SubSYMtems 90 t hat
a J unl1'or ", user and 51itp i dpnt l.tlca ti ons nre used ,
b) ~he File T ransfe r Protocol i~ lltllJzcd to allow mall to he or' n: ina1ed and dlst ri uted anywhere all I"h e Ne twork w.lthout huving to ~o throug h 8 central sYRtem,
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~WG/RPCf4 453 MDK 7-FEB-73 ~ :tn 14317 "eetln,a; AnnouncClQent to Discuss 8. ~e1."ork \fad L System
know and use NLS. "'eo jntend to Intf'",.atc this function wJ"th the Tenex SNDMSG cnpabltit l e~. Par Borne preliminary J nte r lla l ARC discussJon on thJs subject, you may be I ntorested in readin ~ two Journal Items, onp by Charles ~rby ( IJOURNAL , 141n~ , I:w) and th~ other hy JIm Whit~ ( IJOURNA L,14 J t2 , t:w) .
We realize t~ot there are muny benef i ts to ~~is approach , hut would ljke to have such u scheme rit into an agreed upon Network wide meSSage and document Rendln~ protocol .
RspeciaLly I mpo r tant to us I~ "thot questions concerning user and ~Ite Identl~icatlons , recordert and unrec o rded dlalo ,e:uf> , and coordination among other mall subsys t c-ms on the Net_ark , be ~ulty understood and mutually re~olved at the desJgn level be~ore implementatlon work procu~ds.
We theretor~ want to discuss these Issues at th~ Network ~atl mee~jn~ February 22 .
Wole of The NrC
[~ conjunction with the above d l scuHsJon , we will con~Jrler offer I n~ th~ services o~ the ~etwork In~o rmat l Qn Cent~r in three releted areas :
to implement and maintain Idpnti~lcatlon ~Jl~s for alt network users ond 5 j tes;
(Th~se ~lles could be made avallablp ln sequential form throup;h 0 standard socket so that Network s l tP8 rould plther query them or periodica ll y obtain updated copy .
to record In thp NrC Journal thet ma l l which ~hc s~nder wl~hes to hove recorded , and to catalogue those Items for later reference;
to dlstrlbute Journal or l'1ussaBe mall throueh the Networl( via File Transfer Protocols JI requeRted '
to provide and use NIC dialugue ~ roup J dentlflcutlons, in order to make It Simpler to send ltems to several persons who had ~ common Interest .
Network I{ai 1 Meetln,:! Lo£:lst iCB
If you or anyone at your slte would like to attend the mcetlnR , plel.\s~ notJf'y Wil Jerni g an (MEJ) at SRJ - ARC :
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NWG/RFC#I 453 NDK 1-FEB- 13 9 :J O 14317 W~etJnq Announce~rnt to Discuss a Nptwork WaJ I Sys tem
(JI 43 L7) 7-FEB-7 3 n ~ 10; Title: Author(~ ' : kurt lL ck , Mi chael D . / MD~; D i strIbutIon: IIar 11n , Re-,t;t E 4 ' LRFC . NLS;3, 6 - FEB-73 17: 09 WOK
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Dear Roland, Na ~C~-R Rssemblpr at Di vi s ion 5 or RBN ;
thp TFNEX side of the house . Rep,a r ds , Alex McKenz I e ( RBN-NET)
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( J t 431q) 7- FFD-73 10:23; Author(s): ARC , Gllest O./ARCG; Dlstrlhutlon! Lf'maro , Mar i a E ., S tron p , Thomas H., BRl'Ise tt , Mar:'F!aret A. , Poh , Susan $ . , L~o vltt , 8lsLe /IIIFL THS(hl -to m ) MAA2 SSP E1..2; Sub-cott~cttons: SRI-A RC ; C lerk: ARCO;
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Arl has JUqt poInted ou1 that woul d be v ery hpLp~ul to ha v e rea d "I den t g r oups ").
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the r e arp Rome maiLinG listA that avallant" . ( Por " mallinlJ; ll stgll
Par Spr v er sites , the~e would include S ottwa r e Consultan t s, Accounts people , etc . Tn other wordq , the peop l e li s t ed In the reso~rce notebook , ~o r each s It e , shouLd b~ dI v ided Int o q rou ps whIch can be directly addresserl. .
Pa r ~xamplet we h8 V C t o start setting up accoun ts at v a r Jous server s Ites now And we do not know who to contac t at a Ll of th~~. Ye are sta rtJn a to ~ In d out, bu t It wou l d be eftsJer to huve A qpecial iden t g rnup t o Bend to . [t 1s o~ cours~ lalr ly I mpo rtant to have the list be up tn date .
Coul:e you start by crentln -,/: tbose p:roll ("ts An d u.d ve rtl B l n~ their ex L",tance a n d rE"questjn ~ s i t"es to keep cu r rent in1'ormatlon In th em , fo r their s ll e?
'ThankR.
P. s . am scatterln~ thIs note aecrOBS ARC , because T am not qu i te sur e whose domain t hLs r eq u est fall under . A~BldeB , It' s ~un enter in R lata o~ J den t s. tnx a g a i n. D .
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(J14320 ) 7-F BD-7 J 10: 35 ; Title: Author(s ): Crocker , David H./ OHC; Distribution: Vnn Nouhuys , Dirk H., WatRon , Richard W., Auerbach , "'Ilrllyn F. , North, Jeannp R ./DVN RWW MI7 A J ON ; Sub-Coltcc:-t l ons : Nr C ; Cterk: nRC;
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Jlm, thanks :for lhe extenRlve explanation . 1 had thoua ht T understood the restrlcTlon , and v e ry carefulLy kept my f il ename to alphabetics, thcrhy ~o r~etting t o extrnd the restrictlnn to the d irecto ry nu.mr . I ' l l ~o -try it the ri g ht way now.
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on NFTR E F recently eIthe r,
When J lQokcd at your copy or NETREF, I was envious of you r beautiful stead£astness to £nrm (neatness und consistency ). you te l t me you dIdn ' t do It; ~he Ntc did . Such a shame .
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The Dnly upper - lower C6se djRtlnctlon that matters Is lor scenllrio-type etu:f-t (l o{t-,,: ln- out , command set , P.tc .) So the only stu 'ff tha t nepds f! hanging in you r ll1e is the 'few Logg in g scenllr l os .
Somptlme tnday (wed) r am ~oing to try to put a st6tment 0:1 the convcnt.lons lnto my NETREF .ti l e . r t .i s f/:ettln g complex . There seem3 to be severe documentatlon l im i tation when restricted to standard typre-wrlter g raphics ( s j n~le characte r type ft lld rJgid l ines) . WeIll see .
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a lex: - r re a" your not. e o n hosl - h08t protocol for the In.wg . i a ~ree with your comments wIth p erhaps a ~ew exeeptJons on so~e llI in o r poin ts, hut over all L am in agreement with your comments . What is you r react ion to bob thomas memo on reconncctiun ? 1 think that t he T'econnectlon racchanlsm should be In the host - host p r otocol so that jt Is aval 1~bte to a ll h.i g ear leveL p r otocols . [ th e Jn wq should also he aware 01: th e desulrabi II ty 0'" reconnectlon] 1 am not con vJnced that It 1s a good i dea to make telnet all thin~s to aLL peolll.e (or machines). we should g P.t together soon to talk over these and othe r p rotocol lRsues , the re does appenr -to be '" flurry 01 I nterest In these problem. --jon
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Pursuant to YO,I,.. most recent requ~st, the ~otlowln~ mi g ht be o~ help:
Jim P ry and aR~ocjates (Prof. T~lcherow) were Invo l v ed in the develop-ment o~ a capability named I S DOS which was reviewed in Datamation . Jlnt is a pe r sonal friend and he and his lI.ssociatcd have been 'Workina in the a.rea 01 your interest gome time. '1hy don l -t you gJve him a. call and ask what ~hey are up to and whBt they have availab l e .
"'" address and phone number are: Jim F ry Dept . 01: r ndue tria 1 En g i neerin g University of Mi chi g an Ann Arbor, Michi g an ( 3 1~) 763 - 3 5RO
P'Lease let me kno w 1:f he I s 0 ·( help , ~l ll let you know of any other
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(JI4321) 7-FEB-739 : 30 ; Author(s): Pos tel, Jonathan B./JBP ; DistrJhutlon: Kim , Karen, Gardner, Robe rt [./KK R IG: Sub-Collect i ons : NIC: Clerk : JBP;
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Messa g e: UeSR l ~ In-tercste-d jl1 ob t aJn Jn g in ~o rmatlon and/or rlocu.mentation reg arding f mtac assemblers which a .re accessible via The Network . I n~ormat i o n rega rdjn ~ Network s ite s who ~al ntain a library o ~ Tmls c p rog rams which can he loaded via the Net would 31.so be o"f int ercAt .. Names or knowl edg eb l e per so ns whom I can b u g at sume later time would su:ff' ic e . l~leo.se respond by conto.ct.Lnfl Ron Stou Qhton (l den-t=RMS ) at UeSD .
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THF PURPOSE OF THlSWFC I S TO ANNOUNCE TI{R JO I NT INTeNT OF
ARPA AND MITRE 'fO PUBLTSH AN ARP"NET NEWSLETTER . THE NEWSLETTER
WOULD RF C I RCULATED BY THE NIC . CURRENT PLANS CALL FOR
DISTRIBUTION OF THE lNIT-I AL ARPMrlET NEWSLETTER ON 02/28/73.
IT 1S PRO OSED nUT THE NEWSLETtER WOULD CONTA I N:
o ARPANE"S OF GENERAL -INTEREST.
o SU~KARY OF NEW NET~ORK REsoURces .
o PLANS FOR NEW NETWORK RESOURCES.
o SERVER )fOST SUBMITTED 11'EMS OF INTFREST .
o FBATURF ARTICLE RELATIVE TO SERVER ATT~IBUTES
AND CAPABIL ITI RS OP A SERVER HOST (IT I S
INTENDED TO FEATU RE A DIFFERENT SERVER HOST
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o SUMMARY OF PERSONNEL RELOCAT I ON ( S ) .
o AGE~D A FOR SCHEDULED ARPANET MEETINGS ( SUCH AS
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o SPEC" IAL ARTICLES SUBWITTED BY SERVER / USER
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o ASSORTED COMPILAT I ONS RELAT IVE TO SERVER HOST
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o STATUS OF PROTOCOL DEVELOPMENT(S ).
o OTHER I TEMS waTCH NAY BE DEEVED OF GENERAL
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C . A DI STR I BUTION LfST FOR THE NEWSLFTTER AT YOUR
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ReSPONSES TO TRJS RPC SHOULD HE SENT TO JIUlNIe OR MA IL ED T O :
MR . JEAN r SELl
THE MI ' "RE ('"ORPORAT rON
WESTGATE RESEARCH PARK
NC LEAN , VIRGINIA 22101
TELEPHONIC RESPONSES SOOULD BE ADDRESSED TO:
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1 fU JI now hCi/il i n n ing to use the t a~k writE' ups for a numbe r or uses . One inportJctar Is to update ft report J int e nd t o « iv to behke ~nd ~t on a monthly ba~ 1 9 . AB a result it is important t hat the t ask write ups be u pdated once 8 month . The r eo rl is titled misp In my file and j SUf': !~e6t you r ead 1'o r In'fo .Le t s make the 15th of each mon .h.
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( JI43 JO ) 7-FfA- 73 12 : 22 ; Title: Author(9): W~ t8on , R Ichard W. / RWW ; DIstributIon: Ho~1man . Ca rol B., Lee , S U9a.n R., WIchaet , E lJ zahe th K., Dornhush, Cha rt es F. , ARC , Gu es t 0. , Felnter , E llzabe th J . (Jake ), Hanrlbook, Au~rllentu.tlon Ji'eRea rch , Kelley , lU r k F . , Meye r , N. Dean , By r d , Kay P ., Prather , Raloh , Wh ite , Jume9 E . (Ji u,,) , Val1.ee , Jac'lues F ., Kaye , Diane S ., Pech , Pau L, Eudt Lck, Mich tle l D. , Fe r u: u~o n , F(> r (' R., Lan e , Linda L., Auprbuch, Ma ril yn P ., BaH8, Walt, En ¥ e i ba rt . Doug1.as C., Hardeman , Beu.ureM' ard A . , Ul:I. r dy , Wa rtin E . , Hopper, J . D ., trhy , H. Charles , J e rni gan , K it 1:. ., Lehtman, He rvey G . , "'o rth , Jeanne B . , Nor ton , Ja~e9 C ., Pa G e , C jndy, Paxton , WillJ a. R . , Peters , J e 1'f're y C ., Ra ttl!.f, Juke, Van De R let , Edw In E., Van Nouh uys , DJ rk H ., Victor , Kenneth E . (Ken ), Wallace , Donall1 C . ( Sm ok ey ) , Wa.tson, R ic h ard • • , Andrews, D .... n I . /sri-arc Sub- Col lecti o ns: SR T-A RC SR J-A RC ; C lerk: RWW ;
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esk your rfc I s very ~ood and you thoup;ht cVf'rythln e already ,hut i dn have Some travll.l.l cOIAmanda: 1) nAme of the person who fIll thls rtc. 2) n ame ot the person who coded ncp . 3 'n ame or the pe r son who majnt.,lns the nep. 4 1ooera 1 1ng system 01' the maln cpu_ 5 )1 8 ~he documen~atlon p ain s to br ftvaJlablp throuth the ole. 6)mach i ne hours to debu p the ncp_ 7)ho. lon g does ocp queue the st r and rta? R )any plans to change the nep? a~ so r ry that i did repon~e thi~ ~~rtler because j a. on the road. Bee you n~xt week.
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Harvey ' s LtD prO(l:ra1'8 which inserts directives in the Resource Notebook ' s sItes scems to work nicely. It is in his directory, and there I s a fite which explains it In my direc1ory. I would LIke to conso todat e the two into one ~lte in a More a~proprlate di r ecto r y , pendln ~ finaL i zat ion o~ the ~ormat and Bubsequen~ Journ a llzatlon 01 the process and program. l ~ thIs is to your Llkln g , let me know where you woul.d llkf" it. In t.he process , J will update Bnd f inJ sh the explanation.
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(J1 4335) B-FEB-73 11:14; Title: Au~hor(s): Meyer , N. Dean / NOW ; Distribution: North , J eanne D., Feinler , Elizabeth J. (Jake ), Lehtman , Har v ey G ./JBN J A.KE HGL ; S ub- Co ll ections! SR [-A RC ; Clc'["k: NDN ;
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Jon, I have Just tolke d to Abhay. His wife has a baby due on March 6 , plus or minus 1 week , and he is unwillIng to g o to Call 1:ornia durIng that period. [thlnk it would be a little too arrog ant o f me to schedule an FT P meetlng that he's a uarrenteed not to be able to at~end. 1 thInk 1 ha v e :3 chulces: 1) Keep the dates the same, but have t be TELN ET meeting on the ~11th at UCLA instead o~ the FTP meeting . The maIn thin g 1 think is wron ~ with this Is that I'm very nf~rald it will o ff end Braden too much. 2) Have the FT P meetin g on either the 23 o r 26 o f February (depen d in g on when the NI C ' s 'I Na il System" meetln @ en d s u p (I unde r s tan d they're thinkin g 0' chana ing to the 26th) . Primary obJectIon here Is short lead tl mo . 3) Sc hed ul e TELNET at ~BN on ~a~ch 9 (say) and FTP at UC LA on March 23 (say). Primary disadvantag e i s non- op-tJ.I'Ilza'ti o n o f trips to the West Coast tor E as t Coast people .
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Jon, 'to undereta.nd th.ls you should rea.d my next meesage(wblch J sen t you previously). Ijust stalked to Braden and he said he wouldn'~ .1nd i~ the FTP mee11n& were in Hoston. There~ore 1 tend to favor plan #1; keeplna the dates the sarne, and the p~dces the Ba~et but switching topics. Incidentally, Braden says S teve .ol~e has many bitter complaint about TELNET and that's ft ~ood reason 10r havin~ the TELN8T meetIng In LA. Any idea what that ' s all about? Rea a r de • A lex ps: I ' d stl~l lJke you to co~ment on the ' 13 choices", by phone j~ possible (my home N 1s 617-861- 8230)
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This note is lsell (NI C #
in par tial response ~o a note distrib\1ted by Jean J4 326 ) on or about Pebruary 7, 1 9 73. I received a
the d.ocumellt trom Na ncy Neigus , the DBN-N ET sta tIon "(erox GlZent
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The cited dOCUMent erroneously descrihes itsel ~ us an RFC . The RFC mechanism may n ot be perJ'ect, but It i s well-defined . It seems to .e that anyone pLannlnQ to publish a network newsLetter shou l d understand this point, and should kno. about such 'thlnp;s as obtainln,a an RFC number for "RPC ' s" .
The cited document was apparent ly diet ri bu'ted only to " Sta tlon Agents" Gnd not to "Technical Liaisons". [t is my understandin~ that the "Stati on Agent " ~unctlon is I ntended to be more or les9 0. "librarian" type Job , and that the "Technlcal Liaison " J'unct.lon is intended to be a .o r e act ive (and perhaps more well-intormed ) Job . Thus, our internal document distrlbutlon syste~ at BBN-NET, as we ll as our procedu r e for outpu~ ot documents TO the network community , revolves around "Technical Llaison 11 rether than "Sta~lon Ag en~n responsJbl IJ ty. It i s ray bellet that several other sl tU8 work ( lnte rn ally) the same way. Either
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Mr .. [ sell I s _ron" (or uninformed) , or
The cited document .as issued the way it was because no r esponse was desired f rom sItes which work thl s way.
It Ls di~~ i cutt to see what sort 01 informatJon the proposed news l etter .Llt carry about t'status o~ protocol development(s)" beyond wbat is avaIlable throuQh th e RFC mechanism and the Protocol Notebook (N[C # 7l04) . Do we (the network communJty) really need additional prolJferation of paper which cites o r rehashes developments djscussed elsewhere? ( Tha t really r s intended to be a quest i on )
I sUilgest th a t the " summary or personnel relocation(s}" is a partlcularly poor ldea. Every sIte has one or more copJes of a fairly thick book called n Current Directory 01' Network Pa rti cipants" ( NrC It 5150 ). Its p rhnary p r oblem 1'1 "that it-s frequently not very current. Jf effort is to be expended on keepin~ trac k o~ "personnel relocatJon(s)", r think it .ould be much more pro~l table t o spend it keepin g that document Nore up-to-date. (The fore~oin g t ot coursp , doesn 't mean that the ~[TRE g roup couldn ' t do that Job. In particular, the NJC tends to update the '1directory ot participant~" onLy a section
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It would certainly be nice l"f in'formatJon ap p earing in the proposed newstetter p ertaJning to "resources " coul d fin d its way Jnto the Resource Notebook ( NIC # 6 74 0 l. Everyone who has come i n contact with the current ver s ion ( o r p ast v e rsIon s -includin g the initial one I p repa~cd ) has commented on its in collipleteness ond out-o:f-dateness... I t se e ms 10 me that the ri~ht (Ie, most useful) thing to do Is to try to brin g it up-to-date and make It complete, rather than to start a "competing ll set o.L docu1'llen"tation 1It'hlch wILl. :fo~ce the poor user to look In two pl a ces lnstead oL Doe . As with the p oint above, "this comment does not mean that the V rTRE g roup should necessarily be excluded f .rom a .aJor (perhap s exclusive' role in collecting resou~ce information and takin g care that It gets properly and promptly distributed.
Tn gene~al ., as indicat"ed by the comments above, 1 believe tha t ~bere is LOT S of .ork which needs to be done to make the network more uselul. Jt seeMS , however, tha~ rather than cDDcentrating on functions which need to be done to make things better (9uc~ as UPDATING the Ii directory or pa.rticipants" mo~e rapidly) ",any o.:f us are enamored oL the idea 0-1 starting something new without pa.rticular conc e rn for whllt hilS ~ one be:fore. Even it: the waste implicit in this approach is a cost that can be borne at the source , i1 may entail cos~s that can't easily be borne a~ the destination . In particular , supplyin g users wJth two (th~ee, .:four., ••• ) piles of documentation that THEY must collate, scan , or underst"and does not see m to me "to be doin g them a s ervi c e. Of course, [ must concede that sometImes the way to make signl.:flcant pro g ress is to throw out the old und start £reshi t on ly udvocate that when this course is chosen it Is chosen consciously and del ,lherately, rather than 'Unconsclously an d r~ndollll.y ..
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2a3 lORNT CPU MRS CON lIRS CPU/CON ~ S YS CON/CPU 2.4
2.5 ( Dl A. ) . 803 H6 . 860 . 008 1. 2 125 : 1 2.6
( MFA) . 896 23 . 2 7 6 . 03~ 1.4 26 :1 20.7
( WLB) 1.00 1 22 .t59 . 045 1.5 22 :1 2n8
( KFB ) .. 24 7 2 1. 323 .. 012 . 4 83 :1 20.9
) ( CFD) 2.074 45 . 803 .. 045 3 . I 22 : 1 2 0.10 ( DeE) 2 . 046 54 .. 096 . 038 3 .1 26:1 20 1 1
(JAKE) .798 23.653 . 034 1. 2 29 : 1 2&12
( WRF ) . 404 11 .. 121 .. 036 . 6 28 :1 lo.13
( BAH) 1.173 21 . 559 .. 054 1. A 1 8 : 1 28 1 4
( HEn) 1.393 43 . 967 . 032 2.1 31: J 2« L5
(JDH) .. 189 7.771 . 024 .3 42:1 2 a16
( eM 1 ) 2 .1 99 32 . 499 .06 8 3.3 15 :1 2 a.17
( MEJ) . 989 66.505 .. 0'7 5 1 . 5 67 : t 2a l R
( DSK ) 1.356 36 .709 .0 3 7 2 .1 2 7: 1 20. 1
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' ) ( LLL) . 556 42.283 . 0 13 . 8 71:1 20.22
( SR L) . 089 3 . 557 . 025 • 1 40 :1 20.23
( RGL ) t .. 184 24 .. 303 . 049 1. 8 20 : 1 20.24
( NDU ) .. 359 1 5 . 445 . 023 . 5 4.1: 1 20.25
( EEN ) . 48 L 22 . 267 . 022 .7 45: 1 2a26
( JDN) .. 50 7 28 .. 28 1 . 0 18 . B 56: 1 211.2 7
( JCN) 1. 403 28 . 5 18 .. 049 2 . 1 20: 1 2a2R
( WHP ) 20.29
(JC P) .. 966 34 . 232 . 028 1. 5 36 :1 28,31)
(J R ) . 003 .769 . 004 0 250 :1 20.3 t
( PR) .. 736 23 .. 166 .. 0:)2 I • 1 3 1 : ) 2832
( HER) .1 89 3 . 773 . 050 . 3 20 : I 2a33
J (JFV) . 802 17. 2 10 . 047 I • 21 :1 20.34 ( EKV ) 20.35
( DVN ) . 605 20 . 40 1 . 030 . 9 33 : I 2a36
( KEV ) .. 850 9 . 938 . 086 1.3 12 : 1 2011.37
( DCW) < . 368 6 7 .. t 86 . 065 6 . 6 15 : 1 20.38
( R .... ) .. 424 12 .. 28R . 035 . 6 28:1 2 0.39
( J EW ' . 895 24 . 089 .. 03"1 I • • 27 :1 26.40
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26.44 HIGHeST CPU: DCW 4 . 368 h r s LOW EST CPU : J R . 003 hr. 20.45
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HIGHEST CPU I CON : KEV . 086 H.lGHEST CON/CPU: JR 250: 1 28.47
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2b3 NAME CPU HRS CON nos CPU/CON • SYS CON / CPU DIH 2b4
2bS (JHB )HAI R . 5 7 8 2 7. 385 .. 02 1 . 9 48 : 1 2 12 2h6
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{JPC , CAVANO . 063 4 . 898 .01 3 • 1 77 : 1 57 2b9
( RF [ ) IU O,RNO 1 3 2b lfJ
( P S L )LA MON.IC A . 092 3 .1 03 . 030 • .I 33 : I 4 2 2b tl
( TFL )LAWRENCE .1 95 9 . 425 . 02 1 . 3 48 : 1 8 7 2b12
( JL.Y , MCN AMA RA . 282 25 .136 .. 0 11 •• 9 1: 1 121 2b 1 3
( HBP ) P ANARA .. 064 3 . 580 . 0 1 8 • 1 56 : 1. 84 2b 1 4
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{ -.lADe ) RADC .1 24 25 .784 . 028 1.1 36 : J 50 2b 16
( WER ) RZEPKA .24 1 1 8 .147 . 013 •• 77: 1 •• 2b L 7 ( FPS ) S'L I WA .1 53 9 . 044 . 017 . 2 59 : 1 28 2b 1 8
(.I RS ) STELLATO . 095 3 . 33 7 . 028 • 1 36 :1 29 '2b 19
( 01.5 ) STONE . 433 26.196 . 0 17 . 7 59 : 1 I 13 2b21')
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2cS ( Dnc )eo., A N .633 26 . 236 . 024 1.0 42 : 1 2eo
( LPD )DEUTSCH . 397 26 . 671 . 0 1 5 . 6 67 : 1 2c7
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( JG II un TCIIELL . 076 5 . 934 . 0 13 • 1 77: 1 2cl 1
( ERS )SAT-WTE . 618 17. 298 . 036 . 9 28 : 1 2c12
( RES ) SWEET 1 . 859 40 . 342 . 0 4 6 2 . 8 22 : I 2 c1 3
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(J1 4339 ) 8 - 1:"88- 73 10 : 50 ; Ti t le : Author( s ): Hardeman , Beauregard A.IDA H ; D .l s ~rl b\ltjon : Koffman, Caro l B., Lee , Susa n R. , ~lcllapl , E lizabeth K., Do rn bush , Charles P ., A_RC ., Gues t 0 ., J~eln l er, Elizabeth J . (Jake ), Ha n dbool< , AlI(lOIentatlon Resea r ch , I:etley , Kl r 1:c E ., ,-,hoyer, N . Dean, Byr d , Kay F ., Prather , Ralph , Wbite , Ja.~es E . (JLm ), Va ll ee , J acq~es F. , Ka y e , Diane S ., Rec h t Paul , Kudllck , Nl chdel Do , Fe r guson , Pe r a R. t Lane , Linda L ., Aue r bach , Ma r ily n F ., £tass , W0.1t, En g e l bart , Doua las C., Ha r deman , Beaurega r d A., Ha r dy, Wa r tin Eo, Hopper , J . D., I.-by, H. Char l es , Je r nipa n, MI L E o , Lehtman , Ha rv ey Go, North, Jeanne B ., N' orto n, J ames C ., Pe(ltp. , C i ndy , Paxton , Willi am R., Pe-ters , Jeffrey C .. , Ra.t t i f"! , Jak e , Van Dr. R i e t, Edwin X., Va n Nouhuya , Dirk It. ., Vi ctor, Kenneth E . ( Ke n), Wallace , Donald C . ( SMokcy ), Wat s on , Richa r d W., An d r o ws , Don 1 . , S t o n c , Dua n e L ., Lawrp n ce , Thomas Deu~sch , L. Peter, Mitche ll, JaMes G./SR I-ARC DLS ; S Ub - Col lec t ions : SRI - ARC RADC Clerk: BAH
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Cont~in8 0 brIer summary of my semJnar contents and lInks to the v arious measurement toots
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several measurement techniques and poln~s the "ser to (more or less) detaIled documentation f or each technique .
The meaSurements, discoverys, changes etc e , In NLS are being recorded .in (u.ndrews,nlsrecord,). That :t lle also contai ns ideas bnd SUA~estlons ~or the MPS convers ion, as well as for the Lt G versi on of NLS.
Please incor p erate y o ur flndln gs into ( andre .. H ,nl srecord) . Also any su ggestion, .ild ideas, shortcomlng s, etc ., concernin8 these llIeasurement techniques wo ul d be g reatly appreciated.
(OSE) Use Measurement system
This system meaSUf"es NLS command execution, by type o :f commande It moni"tors a sin g le user and writ es info rmation on a t ile at Bpecl~ L ed Interv~lse That in£ormat.ion i6 a~ terward printed via a specla l p rog ram .
Documenta1:,ion:: ( 9 727,)
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The Program Counte .... sampler is part o£ t he S u per-watch measurement sys1:em . r t consists 01 code in the moni to r clock Interrupt routine which Looks at the return PC and increments a count in
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Tbis is an Jnternal NLS ~unctioo that counts the usa g e ot the various NLS commands. [t also collects the elapsed execution time and the elapsed console ti.me.
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( SubsysStuts) Subsystem S ta~J9tics
The moni"tor maintains softie in:Cormation by s 'ubsystem. This can be printed out in a terse form by the EXEC 's STATI ST(CS coml'l and , or by Superwo.tch . One cao obtain -the perceo a ! time used by a ,p: Jven subsystem , the ave ra S e time to pag e :fault , the percent 0.1 p r ivate and shared page fo ul s , and 0. few others.
Documentation: (ondrews,docsuper) Paramete r s pertaining to su.bsysteilis can be viewed by doin J( 8 Jump link on the p roper statement io (andrews , docsupe r,v1 ews )
Task) Task measure or cbaracter interaction measurements
At the end 0.1 each chartlc"te r interactIon NLS reports several elaped times to the monitor , which acculnulates them 1n a tabl e . The table can be sampled and p ri nted via Buperwatcb .
The r epor t ed tlmeB are the console time, the execu"tlon time , and the elapsed "tlme during whleh "the NLS tork was executi n g . These ftrc combined to compute se veral parame tel'S which c an be printed wlth superwatcb . The pa ra mete r s rcvea~ NLS 's behavior ~rom the point of view o~ the sc hed uler - as a proces s whJch reads a character and comp ut es , re ads a character and computes etc .
Documentation: (ondrews , docsuper) NL.S can be vi e ,,-ed by dOing a Jump in ( andrewB,docsul'Jer,vlews'
( T r ace ) Call Re turn Trace
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p ertai ning 1 0 p roper statement
This al lows one to get a trace of all llO calls and returns ~o r a comma n d or part of a command in NLS . A user pro g ram intercepts calls a n d returns and writes in~ormation out on a "fi l e . included j n the information is the elapse d time between th e l ast ca ll or return . The ~ile Is printed by the Tnterpret Trace command o~ superwatch.
Thls g ives a de t ai l ed look at a fu n ction o£ NL S In ~erms o ~ procedUres col led God time spent 10 CGch p r ocedUre .
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(J14J41) 8 -PEH-7311 :11; Title: Au "thor(s): Andrews , Don 1.!DIA ; D.lstributlon: Vlc1.or , Kenneth E a (K en ), White , James E . (JIm) , DornbuMIt , ChArles F a , Nlchael, Elizabeth K .. , valtee, Jacques P .. , Mitche l l , James G . , Deutsch, L oO P~ter , Kaye, Diane S oO, Andrews , Don I., Baas , Wal t, Hopper, J .. D. , lr by , Ji . Cha rles, Leht man , Har v ey G ./N PG; SUb-Collections: SR I-ARC NPG ; Clerk: DIA; Orlaln: MeASURE.NLS;2, 8 - FEH-7 3 11:06 DIA
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Charles -- For formattinQ text, we stlll need an output p rocessor directive which dis~tlows pa~e breaks below certain top level statements . PLev insures that pa~c breaks occur before certain lev el statemen~St but 1 can find no directive which Lnsures that a pa ge b reak wJll not occur between 0 headin g s tat ement and the tirs t line o~ a subordinate pa rag raph. We need this; huw are the chances we can g et the directlve? -- Jeanne
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(J14342 ) 8 - PEB- 73 17 : 5 1; T i'tl a : Author ( s ): Nn r't h , Je~nne 8 . /JHN: Ols tr lbu 't i o n: "011man , Carol B. , Lee , S us~n R. , Michae l, El izabe t h K. Oorn bush , Charl es F ., ARC, Guest 0 ., Fe i nte r, El i zabeth J . ( Jake ), Handboo k, Au gmenta ti on Resea.rch , Ke ll f>Y , Kirl< E ., Neyer , N .. Dean , Syret, !Cay F .. , Pra t he r, Ralp h, Wh i. te , Jtl.IGCB E . ( Jim ), Vallee , Jucques F ., Kaye , DIQn e S ., Rech , Paul , Kudll ck , Mi chael D. , Fe r g uso n, Pera R .. , Lan e , Linda L., Au e r bac h , Warilyn F ., Bass , Wal't , En a elba r t , Dous las C., Bar d e ma n, Be au r ega r d A., Ha r dy , Mart i n E., Ho pper , J . D., Irby , H. Ch arl es, Je r n i gnn, Mi l E. , Leh t man , Hn r vey G., Nor t h , Jeannf' 8 ., Norton, JaN es C . , P a @e , CJndy , Pax t on , Wi ll inm H., Peters , J effrey C ot RntlJ'fr , Jak e , Vo n De R i e1: , Edwin K., Va n Nouh uy9 , Di r k H., Vi. ctor , Ke nn pth E . (Ken), Wa llace , Do n a l d C . ( S mokey ), Watso n, Ri chard W., And r ews , Don ( .. / s ri- a rc ; SUb- Coll ec ti o n s : SRl- ARC ; C l erk : J RN ; O rl ~ ln: (NORTH}PAOfNMEKO . NLS;l, 8 - FEB- 73 17: 40 JBN ;
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JCN 9 FEU 73 I! 15PN xxx-xx Stan:tord Slou.n Prog ram Visit to ARC - 7 February 1 9 7 3
Stanford Sloan Prosram Vlsjt to ARC 1
7 February 1973 4 : 00-5 : 00
Three groups of about 12 - 20 mInutes each .
JCN presented n picture of ARC, our tools, the sysle. we are developing, some o~ our goals , our ARPANET activities •• the HIe and Ne t dialoM , the Workshop utILIty plans we have ••• u s in g the Projection TV placed in the vault, proJect Lng on a p()rtabLe screen at tbe outer lilllits ot the old cave area . rt wcnt well, u.~thouQh 20 minutes Is too Bhort a tim~ to really reach people with some level of understanding on their part •••
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Date : February 7, 1 9 73
TiMe! 3:00 - 6:00 p~
PLace: Stanford Reserch Institut e Me nl o Park, Cali1orni ~
3:00 - 4 :00 PM
S lide Show Conferenc e Room B - Bui ldin g 1
Ouest ion Period C . A. Anderson, Presi(lent
4:00 - 5:00 PM
Tour - SRT Enulnee rln g FacilltJes Bonna r Cox , Executive Directo r [nfo rmat l on Science S Engineering
3 ~roup8 led by B. Cox, S . Willer , E. Jones
3 stops; Hobot Area, Ultra Sound, Camera, Au;;;menta.tlon Research Center
5 : 00 - 6 :00 PW
Cocktai Ls Keidanren Room , 5-109 Host - C. A. Anderson
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Participants
( Dennett) John T. Bennett Deputy D irector, U.S . Embassy United states Depart.~nt o~ State San to Domlna,lo
Harvard University BA. Go v e.rnmen t NS A"ricultural Econo~ lc s PhD Ag riculturaL Economics
(8er~hoLd) Jose h P. OerRho l d Vice Presid@nt, Finance Six FLaMs , Inc. Los An a e l es , Califo rnia
New Yor k University B.A . Liberal Arts MuhLenberg CoLlego W.B.A. Corpora ti on Finance
( Cha ) Payso n N. Chll 0 1 rector Unit ed NL@erlan TextILes , Ltd. Lafi:0s, Nijlleriu.
O r eRon State Un iv ersIty 8 . S . Business Administration
( C ll.t 'ton) Geor~ e p . C LI .fton , Jr. DistrIct M'tll n a ;;l er PacifIc Gas S ELect r ic Co.pany San Pronclsco, Cali~ornla
i:lar-tneL t ColLeg e
A.A. Business Administration University o~ CaLl~ornl a BerkeLey B . S . BusineSB Administratio n
( Cornell) Kent N. CornelL PLan t ~ana'per Kaiser Aero~pace G ELec-tronlcs Corporatio n PaLo ALto, Cnllrorla
Stanford Un iversity U. S . E.E. BLectronics
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JCN 9 FEB 73 L:L SPft xxxxx Stantord Sloan Progranl Vlslt to ARC - 7 February 1973
( Cusick) Joseph D. Cusick Chief , Operations Policies S Procedures United States Air Force Sunnyv ole, Cal I~ornla
Stlln~ord University A. B. Naval Sclence/Communlcatons University o~ Santa C l ara U. B. A. Industrial Management/Economics Univerity o£ Son Francisco
( D i ckinson ) Robert V. Dickinson Ass i s t ant Directo r, Accountin~ Machines The S l n~c r Company San Leandro , Cu l i~ornia
University of Ca~11ornia Berkeley A. B. Physics Uni v ersity 01 Washington ~ . S. Physics
(Dumm' Robert J . Dumm Chai r man 01 thp Board M~blte Industries , Inc . Cucamon~a , California
Lon~ BeeCh City Cotle~e A. A. Business Administration UnIversity o~ Calilornia L . A. B . S . Business \dministration Cal i fo r n i a State Colle~e at Long Heach
( Pur ubayashi) Xlyosh i Furubayash j Chief Staff of Lahor Rela t ions & Plunn J n a Nippon Steel Corpo r at~on Tokyo , Japan
Un iversity or Tokyo B. A. PublIc Law
( Roflner) Carleton C . Ilo~fner, Jr . Maintenance DIvisIon Director United States Navy San Bruno, C~lI1orni6
United States Naval Academy B . S . Marine En~ ineerlng Rensselaer Poly~echnic [nstitute
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B ~ C.E. CJvIl Fn~lneerlng Unlversi.ty o~ VJr~ inla
(Jouhki) L. J. (Wylle) Jouhki Personal Assistant to the President Oy K:AUKAS Ab Lappeenranta , Fi.nland
The HeLsinki School o~ EconomicA 8 Uusines9 Ad.Jnistru.tion B.Sc ~ Y"u.rketinu N. Sc . Business Nana8ement Tronsportation
( Keller) Geor~e 8. Keller Serv i ce Requlrclftents Advisor Internotional busineAS Nachines Corporu.tioll
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Pace Cottege A.A .. Humanities South Texas Colle~e
( Xnoblauch) Lorin s W ~ Knoblauch Attorney Haverstock, Gray, Plant , Wooty 8 Anderson NL nn cu.pot J s , Minnesota
Yale Unlvc.rsliy A.8. American Studies Harvard Law School J.D .. Law Onlvc r sty o~ Minnesota
(Larue) Denle R. J . Larue Assistant to DIvisional Head Shell Chim le Pari s, France
University 01 Paris B .A. Nathematics Ecole Poly technique at Lausanne
(Lee) Charles Lee Systems EnpincerJna Manape r International Business Machines C orporation Arlington, Vjr~ lnia
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Fisk Universit"y B .A. NothelQct.tlcs
(Loomis) WilliaM C . Loomis Yanaaer, NucLear P ro~ rams United States Army fluntsvilie, ALabama
Western rllinois Un iversity B.S .. Physics University o~ Kentucky M. S . 'PhysIcs
(Lord» Robl;!rt J. Lord rn to rmation Ser vIces Ma nage r J. Gadsden Austrnli& LImited .est Ne Lbourn e . Australia
Melbourne University B . S . Binlopy
( McCuen) Richard J. McCuen Superintendent, Indus trl al. EnR,ineeri I1Q General Notors Corporation McKeespo rt, Pennsylvania
General Notors Institute B.A. Mec hanical Eng in~rin ~
(Martinez) Manuel G. Ma rtineZ, Jr . Project EniEineer Un I t ed States Atomic Ene r ay Commission Albuquerque, New Mexico
New Nexico S~ate Universi~y B.S.N.E ., N . S.N . E .. Mechanical En~i neerlna
( Woran) John A . Moran ManaAel', Manurftcturlng 6 En g ineeri ng Services Vestern Electric Company Lisle, Illinois
Newark Coll@ge ot EnM ineerln ~ 8 . S .N. E ., M. S . N.E. Mechanical Engineering New Jersey State Teacher's Colle~e
( Wullln) Jero~e P. ~u llin Nana~er, Blectric Propulsion
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National Aeronautics & Space Administration WlI.shingon D.C.
Sprlu ~ Hill Colte~e B . S . Physics University o~ Ma ryland Ca thollc Univer s ity
( t,( urray) John W. Murray
Director, DosiS" Support United S tates Army Fort BelVoir, Virginia
Fulrlel~h Dick inson UniversIty B . S . Business Ma na g ement Manhattan Col lege Academy of Ad van ce Tra1~lc
(N ol len) Adrlu.nuB C . Nolle n DIrector, St8~f Bu reau SAMIVOZ UertoMenbosch, Hot land
University of TllburA N. B. A. [email protected]/Publi c Law Bachelo r o~ La ..
( Oosterhot.-t) Eduar d Oosterho "ft
Executive VJce P r es ident AGO Vorzekerln pe n Amsterdam , The Netherlands
Univ e rsity o~ Amsterdam Law School Doc tor of Law Ce rti ~ icate
(Pedder) Roger A. Pedder We rchandl se Cont r o ll e r British Ho.e Stores , Ltd. Lo ndo n, Enflland
Live rpoo l Un iv e r sity B.A. Economics
(Petersen ) Rjchard H. Petersen Branch Ch ie .f National Aeronautlcs & Space Administration Mot~ett Field, Ca liforni a
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Purdue UnIVers ity B.S.A.E. Aerodyna~icg Callfornia Institute at Technolog y M4S . A. E . Aerodynamics
(Peyton) Robert P. Peyton Vice PresIdent G Treasurer Orion ProdUcts Company , lnc. Sunnyvale, Cull~ornia 3 u ~
Stanford Universjty B . S., ~ . S. Mechanical Eng inoerlna
(Pierson) Nathaniel H . Pierson Assistant Director , OPCC Unlt~d States Depatment of Labor WashIng ton, D.C.
Nor Mal1 State Colle~ e A.B .. Economics Cornetl Unversity M.S. Indu s trltll Relations
(Piloto) Alberto Pilato ChIef, Ouailty Control Depa r tment Di g ital Blectoolc Au10. ation SpA Noncallerl , Jtaly
(atltuto S ociete Diploma Llcen Class ic, HumanIties Pilitecnlco de Torino
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(PJtsenber @erl Laurence D. Pitsenherg er Chie1, P r oject ClosIng & Servicing DivisIon United States Department at Commerce Washlna ton, D.C.
UnjverMity of Ore~on 8. 5 . Political Science Stan~ord UniversIty LL.D. Law
New York Unlversi1y LL. W. In~ern a tlonat Law Unlversity o f Washlng ton
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( Platas. Oscar R . Platus Research PhysJcist Lockheed Yi~ sjles S S pace Co~pany , Inc. Palo Alto, Cali~ornia
No rt h Texas State 8.5 ., M. S . Che~i s~ry and Mathematics University of Texas M.A . Physics and Chemistry Unversity o£ Cali10rnia Berkeley
(Porter) Lawrence E . Actin " Chie1' , Advanced Electro-Optics Techniques Croup Unit ed States Air Force Wri Mht-Putterson Air Poree Base , Ohio
Tennessee State Unvverslty B. S . Electrical En~ lneering Un iv ersIty o~ Dayton W. B. A. Bu ~Jness Administration
(Rollin' Pierre N . Rollin CODiptroller GERVAI S DANCN
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Lycee Co.rno1 B. A. Nathe.tics G PhysIcal Sciences Lycee LouJs-ie- Grand
( Rouvln) I'tlll.lppe E . Rouvin Commercial Yu n Q~er SERIC - SUD Lunal, France
Lycee de LUNEL 8 . A. GeneraL EdUcation UniversIty of Montpellier Cert i fIcat e , Mathematics Ecole Speclate des Travaux Publics CivJ 1 Eng ineer, Bui l ding and Public Yorks rnstitute National de Gestion Previslonnel~e et de Contro Le de Ges~lon I.e.G. - Paris
( S antos ) Edward A. Santos Mechanical Eng Jneer
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Un 1 t ed 5 to,. tes -De tense Supp 1y Ag ency HartLord, Connecticut
University or Connecticut B . S . Wechanical En g ineering University of Hartro rd
(Schreiber) David A. Sch relber Sales Director Schre i ber Wood rndus~ries Ltd. London, EnM1and
Hebrew University Study Course , Compara tive Ha li a ion and Talmudica l S tud ie s London Colleae o~ P urniture Diploma, Dcsl~l\ S Technolo~y
( Sha rp) Ste rtin " E. Sharp Factory ~anajler Hi -Shear Corporation Torrance, Cal ifornia
American Ya na@ement Associa~ion University o~ Call~ornja L.A.
( Stone) Eu pene E . S~on e , IV Executive Vice President Stone Wanutact urin g Company Greenville , Sou th Caro lina
Unlversity u£ South Carolina B.S . liuslness O~~ic~r Candidate School, United s tate s Navy Commission, En s l Kn
(Swab) Rohe rt N. S wab Airlift Mi ssion Area Manager United States Air Porce Wriaht-Putterson Ai r Force Base , Ohio
Pennsylvunia State Unlversity B . S . AeronauticaL Engineerin ~ M. S . Aeronautical E n ~ in ee ring Air Fo rc e [ns~i~ute of Techno loMY Ohio Sta t e Unversjty Wri g ht-State Unlv e r sity
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(Terul) Akio Assiatnnt Nana s ert Plannin g Department Oalkyo Oil Company, Ltd. Tokyo, Japan l a m
Keio GiJuku UniverSity B . A. Economics
(Veley) Burk~ R. Veley Controller Intera110nat Business Machines Corporation Pou8hkeepsie, New York
Lycotllio " Colte6!l e B . A. Accountin i(
( Wachob ' James R . Wachob Forel~n Service 0~11cer Deputy Chiei' of )liaslon Unltpd State De p art Ment o~ State Washing ton, D.C .
Ileed Co lleg e B.A. PolItical Scj e nce University ot Utah
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(J143 431 7-FEB-732 1: 26 ; TI tle: Autho r( s ): Norton, Jame s C./JCN ; Dlstrlbu-tion: Engelhart, Douglas Co, Wa t son, Ric hard 'if ., By rd, Kay F ./ DCE llWW KFB; S ub-C ollections: SRI-ARC; C Lerk: JCN ; Ori4!Jln! (NORTO N)SLOA N . NLS;l , 7-PEB-7 3 2 .1: 24 JCN;.
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IF mouse bu1.ton and keY8et Lor unknowo case shi fts THEN 3 \> 3
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ot the end o~ the unknown caseal,ift, i.e., at the transi~lon Lrom an unknown ca.seshlft to n known setting 01. the mous e buttons, one olpht-bit cha.racter wilt be sent:
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[ think NWDT and NN"RT should be ma.de rdents. ThLs will encourfl g e people to u se the Journal fo r dialo g ue in the NLS- MPS de~J g n process. [think this could p r ovide 0 1asclnatlna record of the process which could teach us considerehle about how desl @n s are arrived at and aLso a Ll eviate the usual problem o~ n01 knowin g a year l ater why Bome1hin~ was done that way.
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(..J14347 ) 8 -FE B-7 3 8 : 09 ; T L t Le: DistributIon: lrby, H. Charles/CHt;
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ot sittina around . but by and larRe ba~eB,)ec Latly toolwise . ho.ever, 1 sort of affirmative
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Dav e - - r ~o l a Journal item ~ro. Jean J ee li o~ MItre tod~y_ You ni g ht .ant to look at It, (JJOU RNAL , 14326, 1:.,. The fifth item 01 contents .j~ht be ~iving us 90me competition, or else we might borrow ~rom the~ savIng ourselves 8o~e work.
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PLEAS E HAVE THIS (2) SRI - NIC.
"'AN ADDED TO THE I1 TEALWINGI1 GROUP AT (1) USC-lSI THANKS . DRUCE DOLAN
HIS NAME IS: C . TUCKER RATTLE S YSTEMS EVALUATION DEPARTMENT STANFORD RESEARCU INSTiTUTE SRI-WASHINGTON 1 61 1 NO~TH KENT STREET ARLINGTON. VLRGL NIA 22209 (10 3 ) 524-2053
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PR 8 -FEB-73 9 : 54 Cost at Text ]nsertJon with NLS.
This Is a record o~ som~ .easur~.ents r have taken last mon~h . 1 understand that CharLes has i _p roved qui te signlflcantly t he tI.in R or text insertJon wl. th TNLS and p lans to Introduce the same improveMents in DNLS a lso. When ~he latter is completed we s haLl repeat uLl ~heB e measure.en~s and report on the real .agnitude ot these Im p rovements.
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TlNING AND COST OF TEXT [NSER1.' [ON W [TO NLS
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We are estimating that, nn the averag e, 3() to 50 '" o.f the CPU tIme spont In NLS Is required for text insertion. Renee , it is a ~8Jor expense in running NLS and there10re it is an import~nt area to consider ~or effective cost
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Summary o~ Results
Under presently prevai ling conditions (usually a load a v era~e above 4), the a v e rage marginal CPU ~ime required to insert text into an NLS ~ite are 10 msec per charac~er wIth TN1..S and 30 msec per character wi th DNLS. Thus, assuming that ~he cost of CPU time is 10 cents per s~con d ( $6 per minute ), the cost for inserting one charac~er with TNLS is .1 cent and . 3 cenl wIth DNLS. This is indeed s~Lll quite expensIve.
DEX is not less expensi v e eitber. Th~ marg inal cost o~ inserting text with DEX is a~9o around 1 0 meec per character. There~ore, as far 6S cost is cncerned, it is roughly equlvalen~ to TN L S (the latter is less expensive when run at ni g ht). Hence, presently, DEX should be considered strictly as a load shif1.lng device allowin g us to delay some runs l rom the daytime period to ~he slaCk periods Under any other circumstance, TNLS Is probab l y both less expensive and more convenient.
We have observed that the C?U with NLS is a fUnction ot the
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1) the number 01 characters (Obviously), 2 ) the average load factor (up to 30% variation), and J ) the typin g rate (up to 25~ varIation).
In the ~ollowln ~ table we g ive eBtlm~tes of the times it wi 1 t take to lnsert N characters in t o lln NLS 1:i Le under various operatJne, conditions . The detailed measuremcnts
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(Jt 4J51) R-FE B- 7;J 9 :54; Tit le: Au1:hor ( s ': Rech , Paul/PR; Dls1:ributlon: Ho~.fm«n , Cdro l D., Lee , S usan R ., Michae l, EL i zabeth K., Dorn bush , Charles P ., A RC , Gues t 0 ., Fe lnler , E LIzabeth J . (Jake ), Handbook , A\I~mentatlon Rese arch, Ke ll ey , Kirk R ., We yer , N . Dean, Dy rd, ~ay F ., Pra~he r, Ra l p h, White, Ja mes E . (Jim) , Val l ee , Jacques F ., Kaye , DIane 5 ., Rec h, Pa ul , Ku dl i ck , MIchael D., Fe r ji u son , Ferro: P ., Lane , Linda L., Auerbach , War Jlyn F ., Bass , Wu lt, Engelbart , Doug las C ., Hard ema n, Heaure~a rd A., Ha r dy , Wa rtin E., Hopper , J . D., Irby , H . C h a rl es , Je rnI gan , Wil E., Leht.all , Harvey G., No rth , Jeann e B., Norton , James C., Page , CI n dy , Paxton , WilLIam H., Peters, J eftr{'Y C., R!;L tll:ff, Jake , Van De R J at , Edw.in K., Van Nouhuy s , Dirk 1I. , Vi ctor, Xenneth E . (Ken ), Wa llac e , Do ntl.l d C . ( Smo keY), We t so n, R ichard W., Anrlre ws , Do n r./ s rl- arc ; Sub-Co LL ecti ons: SR I-ARC ; C l e rk: P R ; Ori ~ Ln: (RECH)TEXT . NLS ; 8 , 8 - F8B- 7 3 9 : 36 PR ;
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(;]14352 ) 8 -FER-7314 :11; Author(s): S toug hton, Ron~ld ~ ./ R~S ; Distribution: WHllaco , Donald C . (Smokey )/ DCW; Sub- Collectlons! NI C ; Clerk: RMS;
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Memo for John Pickens:
John, [ have received your journal no1:es o~ 15 and 24 January 1973. There is no Simple answer, lik e " yes" . The best 1 can do you your 'resource evaluatnt'S' Is to fo rward your Journal note to the ~wo parti es that deat with contracts tor 14 and TSS/360, respectiv ely . That I suspect w1tl b~ unsuccessful because the two systems are so h eav ily loaded that unless you hove a fa l rly high level charter (0 pursue the work you _il i be denied access. The rtllac facility components are by reserVation only even .. 1 th a user id and pass-word . /:It this time
There is insuf~iclent ' m~al' lor you
to make a fair evaluation of the facility anyway. With respect to TSS/360, it is lo aded wIth p.ood ies bu t overutil i zed so we are depending hea viLy on outside resources such as UCLA dnd L B L. You must have dolLars too with the 360/67.
I~ you and you alone de s ire to use my TSS/360 account r am willing to do that untIL you can get a purchase re queRt approved but I would not he .. J.Lllng: to have others doing so. In ~act, per-
This .ou"ld g ive you a feel for our sys t elD .
haps we could combine ~orces on a small p ro .jec t o~ intprest to rne lind 1 would be h appy to pay ~or it. That effort would concern itset1 with determining £I.le transfer data rates ~rom alta to si te. loadi ngs and di£~erent hours of ~he day . Interested????
At dJfferent system
Flease let me know if this effort i s r equired ~or your f orthcoming paper at the San Francisco con~erence? If so , we'd better ge t moving . Otherwi s e, my study .1lt be a cont inuing one wIth ec ro"ln (ol importance as thl.! number of persons who use the netWork for applications work g rows.
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(J14353) R- FEB-13 15 : 34 . Title: Autho~(s): Jone s , William P./VPJ; Distribution: Pickens, John R ., Jones, Wi lliam P., Hathawuy, A. Yaylle , O'Sullivan, Thomas/JRP(-tor your action) WPJ (copy to me ) AWH(ln:f'o only) TO; Sub-Collections: N1C; Clerk : WP J;
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(J14354 J 9-FEB-73 10:11: Title : Author(s): Lemaro, Maria E. , Van Nuuhuys, Dirk tI ./ URL DVN ; Distrlbution: Walk.e r" Don E. , Aue rbach, Narilyn F ./ DEW MF A; Keywords: ceriment; SUb-CollectJons: SURGj Obsoletes Documcnt(A}: 13834; Updates Document(s ): 13833; Clerk: llYN; Oriain: (GUEST>YARU.NLS, l, 9-FEU-73 9 : 58 MEL;
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[ want to print out the Whole TNLS USArs Guide on the Odec Printer attached to ~y TIP. [would like to use sendprlnt since thate ~he on~y way 1 know to get nlcely-1ormatted output. ~n10rtunately, the TNLS Users Guide I s In many di~feren~ ~lles (userauldes,7470 use r guldes ,7471 •• • ) and , as we now know, not only Is ODP somewhat stow but wItl also g o Into a state of suspended ani.atloni~ there is any slgni~lcant load . Even it this WBRNT true I tm not particularly enthusiastlc about typing all the nalltes 0.£ the pieces of the Users Guide Jnto the system; l·m even less enthusIastic If each bIt of typin g has to be done ~any minutes (or hours) aiter the las~. This Is a specl1Jc Instance o-.f a lJeneral problem of ~ettln l; hardcollY of documents (others are Resource Notebook, Protocols, Journal Users Gulde , etc. ) Is there a Meneral sotutjon? "cookbook"? Regards, Alex McKenzie (ident=aawl *****Note: Autbor Copy*****
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name: Dr. Franklin F . Kuo 6
title: Director of Aluha SysteM research project at University 0 1 Bawall 7
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Jemn, Nancy NeiAuB sent 6 pointer to your RFC Journal ~eB8age about tbe Newsle1:ter. My :first response is one ot Joy that such is tlnally happenin p . My second i s to Inform you o~ my Interest/involvement in docUIlIento.tlon and user concerns. Nancy and 1 are curren1:ly working on compilin g a brief (7 7) notebook with co •• ond antl resources summarrics ~o r the various server (real sorvers, Dot Just advertised se rvers) sites , so that ono _ake ,,0 home _lth T[ and NBTREF in hand and use the Net, without needed 14 volumee Lor each site you MIGHT use. Our ettort is Just beginning and we are interested In your interest in Buch an etlort (The ettort correspunds to point 5 in your list ot the ~ewsletter'B content ' s.
Please list me as NNC's liaison to you. You only need send the Newsletter to our Station Agent (Anitai ALC) as we have an internal distribution m~chanlsm. newe item (we are p lanning to issue and RFC on it when the phenomenon is 1'utly dealt with): lENEX uses two di~terent end ot line Indicators ( EOL -- one byte -- and CR/LP -- two bytes) While their RJS proa ra~ that s ubmits jobs to CCN only kllOWB about CR/Lf. ConsequentLy, CCN will someti~es not accep1: datu tram TENBX becuuse TENEX's record count does not mutch CCN'S. The easiest way ~o remedy the probte. is to rea.d the data flle into TBCO and then output (;U) i.1- back to II. 'lENEX tile.
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The Sclentl~ic Advisory Board ( S AB) iB visi~ing R ADC on the L3S14th 01 March . The SAB is a g roup of recog nized experts 'froID indu~try, UnIversitIes, etc whicb revjuys R&D programs and Rives reco~.endations to General Claser DCS/RSD;le, expand, cancel, reorlen"t, scale down/up , etc . Thls years board consist o:t:
WIllis Ware (Chblr~an)
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RADC m~naMe.ent (Bethke) has chosen to hlghllte our modest use/applIcation/evaluation o£ NLS . [have been directed to g ive a presentatIon; usIn g DNLS and the IMLAC via the DRIPS i~ at all hU80nnly possIble.
Yr. Rethke feels that this is a pivitol presentation . It the SAB approves of thls proJect., 't9 continuence is assured :tor 2-3 years. He n caf he has requeBted we enlist your aId In preparing for thIs presentation .
Mr. Tomalni Leeta that it is imparatlve that Mac and { vlsl~ you as soon as poslble. We can prepare ... "workin ~" pitch be:rore we Make the trip. Is next week 12th-16th convenient for you? I suspect that 2 .orki n ~ days would be su1tlclent. Any two days that are convenient to you are alri g ht wi~h us.
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I~ yoU run into I.lac trouble with monitor 1 29 . 05 , 1ee1 free to cnl1 Ken Victor at home.
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.. ust use a control V for a literal carriage r etu rn when using NLS. A real carr i age return upon t ypln s acts as ft terminator. ~hls is rot her hard ge t ting used to . Section 21n NLS you can show levels and mo v e levels 1rom one lile to a noth e r. Atsn sections ilnd groups in the BIUlle way .. The on iy ppoblem is il ),ou a r e used to se t tin{t up iii. tIle w i th sections and chapte r s it is vcry dltlicutt to reVbPlp your thinking . 1 ft. go in g to play with this fJle.Section 4At this poi n t I witl start setting up levels and aSk to r viewspecs which wltl Bho. me statements and S .I.D. if I want them . so here goes .
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Brau: Your Journal document (14339 ,) is an excelLent piece of work . [~ Is readable, we ll organized and really g ives the kind of summary view we wanted. Thanks {or the go od efrort .. I have the feeling that tile format has stabllL7.ed tor the present. Lr RADC or -PR need added featureS! we can certalnly consider thetO, bu~ should discuss be~ore imp~ement'n " . [ think what you now have witt sat19~Y most of the needs expressed so ~ar •• You sure see. to bave It under control . How is the clerical par t at the process wo r king? Can you keep up wIth it? Can TNLS he u sed ••• insert gequen tlal to help w ith the load? .. \
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(J14363) 8-FEB-73 2 1~OOi Title: Author(s': Norton , Ja~es C./JCN; Dis~ribu~ion: Hardeman, Beauregard A., Van Nouhuys , Dirk H., Rech , Paul, Stone, Duane L./BAB DVN p~ DLS; Sub-Collections: S~r-A RC; Clerk: JCN.
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