Why Choose Engineering Why Choose Engineering or Computer Science?or Computer Science?

www.ecs.csus.edu/careerPresentation authored by Cici Mattiuzzi, Career Programs Coordinator

California State University, Sacramento

© 2010 Cici Mattiuzzi

What predisposes a person to What predisposes a person to be a good candidate?be a good candidate?

Did you all of a Did you all of a sudden just decide?sudden just decide?

Probably not.Probably not.

A student who likes Engineering A student who likes Engineering or Computer Science frequently...or Computer Science frequently...Likes observing, learning and analyzing, Likes observing, learning and analyzing,

and might appear quiet and pensive and might appear quiet and pensive in class.in class.

Might be musically talented - Might be musically talented - play a musical instrumentplay a musical instrument

Likes strategy games: Likes strategy games: chess, checkers, chess, checkers, computer gamescomputer games

A student who likes Engineering A student who likes Engineering or Computer Science frequently...or Computer Science frequently...Is good at Is good at andand likes math - likes math -

enjoys math problemsenjoys math problemsIs a problem solver -Is a problem solver -

enjoys the challengeenjoys the challengeIs good at fixing things -Is good at fixing things -

enjoys pulling things apart and seeing enjoys pulling things apart and seeing how they workhow they work

A student who likes Engineering A student who likes Engineering or Computer Science frequently...or Computer Science frequently...Likes working on computers, cars, Likes working on computers, cars,

motorcycles, bikes, vacuum cleaners, motorcycles, bikes, vacuum cleaners, sewing machines, etc. sewing machines, etc.

Likes being out-of-doors, hiking or Likes being out-of-doors, hiking or backpacking or doing athletic thingsbackpacking or doing athletic things

Likes working with tools and building Likes working with tools and building thingsthings

Why choose Engineering Why choose Engineering or Computer Science? or Computer Science?

Although E&CS grads make up Although E&CS grads make up about about 5-7%5-7% of the annual graduates of the annual graduates nationwide… nationwide… they receive they receive 40-50%40-50% of the offers of of the offers of employment each year.employment each year.

Source: National Assn. of Source: National Assn. of Colleges & EmployersColleges & Employers

Who Hires Engineers?Who Hires Engineers? Demand for Engineers and Computer Scientists is Demand for Engineers and Computer Scientists is

fueled for the need to do solve problems, to create fueled for the need to do solve problems, to create infrastructure, and to do things infrastructure, and to do things better, cheaper, better, cheaper, quickerquicker… (I want an iPhone!)… (I want an iPhone!)

Who’s hiring?Who’s hiring?GovernmentGovernmentConstruction FirmsConstruction FirmsConsulting FirmsConsulting FirmsEngineering ServicesEngineering ServicesManufacturingManufacturingConstruction ManagementConstruction ManagementDefense Defense Energy - UtilitiesEnergy - Utilities

Career Day HistoryCareer Day History

0

20

40

60

80

100

120

‘97 ‘99 ‘01 ‘03 ‘05 ‘07‘06‘04‘02‘00‘98

No.

of C

ompa

nies

Attendance by year

55 5665

73 75

4843

36

67

105

123

140

130

73

‘08 ‘09

51

‘10

51 Companies 51 Companies Attending Attending Career DayCareer Day

Percentage of Jobs at Career Day

0 20 40 60 80

MET

ME

EEE

CS

CpE

CM

CE

1,624Openings!

1,624Openings!

Source: Sacramento Bee

What is Fueling Current & What is Fueling Current & Near Future Demand?Near Future Demand?

In 2007 California passed bonds that fuel In 2007 California passed bonds that fuel demand for engineers:demand for engineers: Spending for California infrastructure: Spending for California infrastructure:

37.3 billion for transportation projects37.3 billion for transportation projects29.4 billion for dams, schools, and 29.4 billion for dams, schools, and

courthousescourthouses13.9 billion in revenue bonds for prisons, 13.9 billion in revenue bonds for prisons,

water storage, and other small expenseswater storage, and other small expenses10,000 new classrooms, renovate 38,00010,000 new classrooms, renovate 38,000

Federal Dollars from the Stimulus Federal Dollars from the Stimulus Package is starting to flowPackage is starting to flow

Obama’s stimulus package promises to Obama’s stimulus package promises to increase the demand for engineers and increase the demand for engineers and computer scientists in such fields as:computer scientists in such fields as:Environment – Energy Efficient Building Environment – Energy Efficient Building

Retrofitting Retrofitting E HealthE HealthTransportation Infrastructure – including High Transportation Infrastructure – including High

Speed RailSpeed RailEnergy - Smart Grid (CSUS will receive $905,348 Energy - Smart Grid (CSUS will receive $905,348

total Smart Grid funding)total Smart Grid funding)

Sacramento cyber security firm extends Sacramento cyber security firm extends contract with DHS contract with DHS – Sacramento Business – Sacramento Business Journal-March 5, 2010Journal-March 5, 2010

Stimulus funds available to help health Stimulus funds available to help health providers pay for switch to electronic records providers pay for switch to electronic records – – Sacramento Business Journal-March 5, 2010Sacramento Business Journal-March 5, 2010

Uncle Sam wants cyber-security pros Uncle Sam wants cyber-security pros – San – San Francisco Chronicle-April 2, 2010Francisco Chronicle-April 2, 2010

Recent Headlines:

We take Engineers for grantedWe take Engineers for granted

Until there is a problem.Until there is a problem. Levees - Katrina (Sacramento)Levees - Katrina (Sacramento) Earth QuakesEarth Quakes Power FailuresPower Failures Border SecurityBorder Security Computer SecurityComputer Security Energy Problems Energy Problems Climate ChangeClimate Change Regional Growth & Regional Growth &

Clogged Freeways Clogged Freeways

2008-2018 Job Outlook: 2008-2018 Job Outlook: Growth Rates for E&CS Occupations...Growth Rates for E&CS Occupations...

Source: Occupational Outlook Quarterly, Spring 2010Source: Occupational Outlook Quarterly, Spring 2010

OccupationOccupation Employment Employment 20082008

Employment Growth Employment Growth Projected 2008-2018Projected 2008-2018Numeric (Percent)Numeric (Percent)

Computer & Info. Systems ManagersComputer & Info. Systems Managers 293,000293,000 49,500 (17%)49,500 (17%)

Construction ManagersConstruction Managers 551,000551,000 94,800 (17%)94,800 (17%)

Engineering and Natural Sciences Engineering and Natural Sciences ManagersManagers

228,700228,700 18,200 (8%)18,200 (8%)

Cost EstimatorsCost Estimators 217,800217,800 55,200 (25%)55,200 (25%)

Computer Programmers and Computer Programmers and Computer Software EngineersComputer Software Engineers

1,336,3001,336,300 283,000 (21%)283,000 (21%)

Computer ScientistsComputer Scientists 28,90028,900 7,000 (24%)7,000 (24%)

Computer Network, Systems, and Computer Network, Systems, and Database AdministratorsDatabase Administrators

961,200961,200 286,600 (30%)286,600 (30%)

Computer Support Specialists Computer Support Specialists 565,700565,700 78,000 (14%)78,000 (14%)

Computer System AnalystsComputer System Analysts 532,200532,200 108,100 (20%)108,100 (20%)

High demandHigh demand

Advancing technology forces Advancing technology forces companies to constantly improve and companies to constantly improve and update product designs. update product designs.

More engineers will be needed More engineers will be needed to improve deteriorating roads, bridges, to improve deteriorating roads, bridges, water and pollution control systems and water and pollution control systems and other public facilities.other public facilities.

High demandHigh demand

Engineering graduates are more likely Engineering graduates are more likely to obtain employment in their fields than to obtain employment in their fields than most other graduates.most other graduates.

Recent graduates in engineering will Recent graduates in engineering will continue to be in high demand for their continue to be in high demand for their high tech solutions to problems as high tech solutions to problems as employers seek to increase efficiency employers seek to increase efficiency and output of goods and services... and output of goods and services...

Occupations with the most projected growth (2008-2018) Occupations with the most projected growth (2008-2018) that usually require a bachelor’s degreethat usually require a bachelor’s degree

Occupation Projected growth Projected growth by the thousandsby the thousands

Median annual wage, Median annual wage, May 2008May 2008

Computer software engineers, applicationsComputer software engineers, applications 175175 $85,430$85,430

Network systems and data communications Network systems and data communications analystsanalysts

156156 $71,100$71,100

Computer software engineers, systems Computer software engineers, systems administratorsadministrators

120120 $92,430$92,430

Computer systems analystsComputer systems analysts 108108 $75,500$75,500

Construction managersConstruction managers 9595 $79,860$79,860

Network and computer systems Network and computer systems administratorsadministrators

7979 $66,310$66,310

Civil engineersCivil engineers 6868 $74,600$74,600

Cost estimatorsCost estimators 5555 $56,510$56,510

High demandHigh demand

At the same time...At the same time...The The demanddemand will will

increase increase The The supplysupply of of

engineering engineering graduates graduates is declining, and is declining, and will continue will continue to declineto decline

High demandHigh demand

Most industries are Most industries are less likely to lay off engineers less likely to lay off engineers than other workers: than other workers: They are harder to find. They are harder to find. They are more costly to train.They are more costly to train.

Unemployment rate of scientists and Unemployment rate of scientists and engineers in the U.S. by occupationengineers in the U.S. by occupation

Unemployment RateUnemployment Rate

Occupation 20032003 20062006

Computer/mathematical scientistComputer/mathematical scientist 3.83.8 2.52.5

Computer/information scientistComputer/information scientist 4.04.0 2.62.6

PsychologistPsychologist 1.11.1 1.11.1

Civil/architectural/sanitary engineerCivil/architectural/sanitary engineer 2.62.6 1.71.7

Electrical/computer hardware engineerElectrical/computer hardware engineer 5.55.5 3.33.3

Mechanical engineerMechanical engineer 4.04.0 2.32.3

Other engineerOther engineer 2.82.8 2.12.1

Source: National Science Foundation/Division of Science Resources Statistics, Science and

Engineers Statistical Data System (SESTAT): 2003, 2006.

Unemployment rate of U.S. scientists and Unemployment rate of U.S. scientists and engineers drops to record low 2.5% in 2006engineers drops to record low 2.5% in 2006

All scientists & engineers in labor force

Bachelor’s Master’s Doctorate Professional

4.0

3.0

2.0

1.0

0.0

2003 2006

Unemployment rates of scientists and engineers by highest degree attained: 2003 & 2006

Source: National Science Foundation/Division of Science Resources Statistics, Science and

Engineers Statistical Data System (SESTAT): 2003, 2006.

2006 Unemployment rate of scientists and 2006 Unemployment rate of scientists and engineers in the U.S. by level of degreeengineers in the U.S. by level of degree

Level & Field of Highest Degree Unemployment rate (%)Unemployment rate (%)

Bachelor’sBachelor’sComputer/math sciencesComputer/math sciencesEngineeringEngineering

3.93.92.32.3

Master’sMaster’sComputer/math sciencesComputer/math sciencesEngineeringEngineering

3.53.52.52.5

DoctorateDoctorateComputer/math sciencesComputer/math sciencesEngineeringEngineering

0.90.91.51.5

Source: National Science Foundation/Division of Science Resources Statistics, Science and

Engineers Statistical Data System (SESTAT): 2003, 2006.

Engineers are problem solvers...Engineers are problem solvers...

Applying the theories and principles of Applying the theories and principles of science and mathematics to the solution science and mathematics to the solution of problems... of problems...

Designing everything from computers Designing everything from computers and industrial machinery to cars and and industrial machinery to cars and security systems, in addition to bridges, security systems, in addition to bridges, buildings and ships...buildings and ships...

Engineers are problem solvers...Engineers are problem solvers...

Often their work is the link between a Often their work is the link between a scientific discovery and its application. scientific discovery and its application. Engineers deliver the products and Engineers deliver the products and services that consumers, business and services that consumers, business and government demand. They create government demand. They create wealth by designing, manufacturing, wealth by designing, manufacturing, and building what you and I need and and building what you and I need and want. want.

Engineering, science and data Engineering, science and data processing processing managersmanagers

Plan, coordinate and direct research, Plan, coordinate and direct research, development, design, production and development, design, production and computer-related activities. computer-related activities.

They may supervise engineers, They may supervise engineers, scientists, technicians, computer scientists, technicians, computer specialists, data processing workers, specialists, data processing workers, along with support personnel.along with support personnel.

Engineering, science and data Engineering, science and data processing managers processing managers

Determine scientific and technical goals Determine scientific and technical goals within broad outlines provided by top within broad outlines provided by top management:management:Redesign industrial machinesRedesign industrial machinesImprove manufacturing processesImprove manufacturing processesDevelop large computer programsDevelop large computer programsMake advancements in basic scientific Make advancements in basic scientific

researchresearch

Engineering Engineering managersmanagers

Start as engineers Start as engineers Need a bachelor’s degree in engineering Need a bachelor’s degree in engineering

from an accredited engineering program from an accredited engineering program as well as several years of experience. as well as several years of experience. With the exodus of the baby boomers With the exodus of the baby boomers the rise into management will be rapid, if the rise into management will be rapid, if not meteoric, for this generation of not meteoric, for this generation of engineers.engineers.

Data processing Data processing managersmanagers

Typically start their Typically start their careers with a degree in careers with a degree in computer sciencescomputer sciences

SalariesSalaries

Experienced engineers Experienced engineers have median salaries of have median salaries of $94,000-$125,000.$94,000-$125,000.

Senior managers have Senior managers have salaries ranging from salaries ranging from $130,000 to over $200,000. $130,000 to over $200,000.

It is difficult to match that type It is difficult to match that type of salary with a bachelor’s of salary with a bachelor’s degree in any other area.degree in any other area.

Starting salaries for engineers Starting salaries for engineers with a bachelor’s degree:with a bachelor’s degree:

Significantly higher than most fields, Significantly higher than most fields, between an average of $40,000 and $61,121 between an average of $40,000 and $61,121 (well above other majors) (well above other majors)

CECECMCM

CpECpECSCS

EEEEEEMEME

CECECMCM

CpECpECSCS

EEEEEEMEME

ECS Salaries, Fall 2009ECS Salaries, Fall 2009

Bachelor’sBachelor’s

Master’sMaster’s

Source: Nat’l Assn. of Colleges & EmployersSource: Nat’l Assn. of Colleges & Employers

CECECpECpE

CSCSEEEEEEMEME

90%Percentile

Average Percentile

25% Percentile

$62,000$62,00060,00060,00075,00075,00080,00080,00071,00071,00071,00071,000

$62,000$62,00060,00060,00075,00075,00080,00080,00071,00071,00071,00071,000

$52,287$52,28751,45351,45360,84460,84461,46761,46760,50960,50959,22259,222

$52,287$52,28751,45351,45360,84460,84461,46761,46760,50960,50959,22259,222

$47,000$47,00048,00048,00055,00055,00052,50052,50056,00056,00055,00055,000

$47,000$47,00048,00048,00055,00055,00052,50052,50056,00056,00055,00055,000

$63,000$63,000**

90,00090,00085,00085,00086,00086,000

$63,000$63,000**

90,00090,00085,00085,00086,00086,000

$56,311$56,31172,77172,77168,62768,62770,92170,92166,96166,961

$56,311$56,31172,77172,77168,62768,62770,92170,92166,96166,961

$47,000$47,000**

60,00060,00062,00062,00060,00060,000

$47,000$47,000**

60,00060,00062,00062,00060,00060,000 * Data not

available

CECECMCM

CpECpECSCS

EEEEEEMEME

CECECMCM

CpECpECSCS

EEEEEEMEME

ECS Salaries, Spring 2010ECS Salaries, Spring 2010

Bachelor’sBachelor’s

Master’sMaster’s

Source: Nat’l Assn. of Colleges & EmployersSource: Nat’l Assn. of Colleges & Employers

CECECpECpE

CSCSEEEEEEMEME

90%Percentile

Average Percentile

25% Percentile

* Data not available

$69,000$69,00060,00060,00075,00075,00080,00080,00070,00070,00069,00069,000

$69,000$69,00060,00060,00075,00075,00080,00080,00070,00070,00069,00069,000

$52,443$52,44350,78950,78961,12161,12160,42660,42659,32959,32958,88158,881

$52,443$52,44350,78950,78961,12161,12160,42660,42659,32959,32958,88158,881

$46,000$46,00043,68043,68055,00055,00051,50051,50055,00055,00054,00054,000

$46,000$46,00043,68043,68055,00055,00051,50051,50055,00055,00054,00054,000

**********

**********

$49,500$49,50083,90083,90060,66760,66767,89967,89970,00070,000

$49,500$49,50083,90083,90060,66760,66767,89967,89970,00070,000

**********

**********

Computer scientists and Computer scientists and systems analystssystems analysts

Among the fastest growing occupations Among the fastest growing occupations and will continue to be for some and will continue to be for some time to come... time to come...

Computer scientists Computer scientists and engineersand engineers

With international and domestic competition, With international and domestic competition, and the financial impact of the recession and the financial impact of the recession organizations are pressed to be more efficient, organizations are pressed to be more efficient, effective, and secure- requiring innovations in:effective, and secure- requiring innovations in: office automationoffice automation telecommunications technology telecommunications technology scientific research scientific research computer and network security computer and network security E-everythingE-everything

Engineers and Computer Scientists are needed Engineers and Computer Scientists are needed to develop the new technology.to develop the new technology.

Systems analystsSystems analysts

Define business, scientific, or engineering Define business, scientific, or engineering problems and design their solutions using problems and design their solutions using computers. computers.

This may include planning and developing This may include planning and developing new computer systems, or devising ways to new computer systems, or devising ways to apply existing systems to operations still apply existing systems to operations still completed manually or by some less completed manually or by some less efficient methods.efficient methods.

SalariesSalariesGraduates in computer science start Graduates in computer science start

with an average of with an average of $60,426$60,426. . Experienced computer professionals Experienced computer professionals

command up to and beyond command up to and beyond $125,000.$125,000.

Why Why the CSUSthe CSUS College of College of Engineering and Engineering and

Computer Science?Computer Science?

We care about...We care about...

The quality of your education.The quality of your education.What happens to you after What happens to you after

you graduate.you graduate.

We’re in Sacramento...We’re in Sacramento...

One of the fastest growing One of the fastest growing region in the state. region in the state.

The capitol of The capitol of California with... California with...

We’re in Sacramento...We’re in Sacramento...

Headquarters or regional Headquarters or regional offices of almost every offices of almost every federal and state agencyfederal and state agency

Major installations Major installations for large corporationsfor large corporations

A very high concentration A very high concentration of consulting engineering firmsof consulting engineering firms

In Sacramento...In Sacramento...

Students have an opportunity to work in Students have an opportunity to work in every imaginable field while in school. every imaginable field while in school.

Computer hardware firms as a large Computer hardware firms as a large number of computer software and number of computer software and computer consulting firms create a very computer consulting firms create a very high demand for our graduates. (Hewlett high demand for our graduates. (Hewlett Packard, CGI, AT & T, Accenture, Packard, CGI, AT & T, Accenture, Chevron IT, Intel)Chevron IT, Intel)

Because CSUS students obtain Because CSUS students obtain experience while in school... experience while in school...

They obtain jobs very soon They obtain jobs very soon after graduation.after graduation.

Starting salaries for E&CS graduates Starting salaries for E&CS graduates with bachelor’s degrees from CSUS are with bachelor’s degrees from CSUS are very high, ranging from a low of about very high, ranging from a low of about $48,000 to a high of $80,000.$48,000 to a high of $80,000.

At Sac State . . . At Sac State . . .

Students do internships at government and Students do internships at government and federal agencies such as: federal agencies such as: Calif. Dept. of TransportationCalif. Dept. of Transportation Dept. of Water ResourcesDept. of Water Resources Air Resources BoardAir Resources Board Calif. Energy Commission Calif. Energy Commission Cal ISOCal ISO Legislative Data CenterLegislative Data Center Lawrence Livermore National LabsLawrence Livermore National Labs US Bureau of ReclamationUS Bureau of Reclamation US Army Corps of EngineersUS Army Corps of Engineers

At Sac State . . .At Sac State . . .

Opportunities are also available for Opportunities are also available for internships with these major internships with these major companies:companies:AerojetAerojetAT & TAT & TEDSEDSHewlett PackardHewlett PackardIntelIntel

Kiewit Pacific Kiewit Pacific KleinfelderKleinfelderNECNEC

Pacific Gas & ElectricPacific Gas & ElectricURS CorporationURS Corporation

Because CSUS...Because CSUS...

...is one of the only schools in the ...is one of the only schools in the country where E&CS students can take country where E&CS students can take courses in how to plan and manage courses in how to plan and manage their technical careers. their technical careers. Take it early!Take it early!

……maintains a highly informative maintains a highly informative website website www.ecs.csus.edu/careerwww.ecs.csus.edu/career

Because CSUS...Because CSUS...

...is one of the only universities with a ...is one of the only universities with a Career Services Office right in the Career Services Office right in the school of E&CS, working strictly with its school of E&CS, working strictly with its students to obtain:students to obtain:

work experiencework experience student employmentstudent employment ...from the minute ...from the minute

they arrive.they arrive.

We maintain a state-of-the-art We maintain a state-of-the-art jobs data basejobs data base

It contains info on: It contains info on: student and career jobs. student and career jobs. job fairs and job fairs and

career-related events.career-related events.

Students and alumni access job listings Students and alumni access job listings any time – 24/7 - from their computers any time – 24/7 - from their computers and mobile devices!and mobile devices!

Lawrence Livermore Nat’l Lab relations & Lawrence Livermore Nat’l Lab relations & recruiting core universitiesrecruiting core universities

In State:In State: Sac StateSac State San Jose StateSan Jose State UC BerkeleyUC Berkeley UC DavisUC Davis UC IrvineUC Irvine UC San DiegoUC San Diego UOPUOP USCUSC

Out of StateOut of State Brigham YoungBrigham Young Carnegie MellonCarnegie Mellon Georgia Inst. Of TechGeorgia Inst. Of Tech MITMIT Northern ArizonaNorthern Arizona PurduePurdue Univ. of IllinoisUniv. of Illinois Univ. of MichiganUniv. of Michigan Univ. of WisconsinUniv. of Wisconsin

Why Choose Engineering Why Choose Engineering or Computer Science at CSUS? or Computer Science at CSUS?

We have the best educational programs, We have the best educational programs, the best location, and the best career the best location, and the best career opportunities and industry connections. opportunities and industry connections.