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Karthik Lakshmanan 1 Four years since B.E - What happened to the B.E. CSE 2006 b Karthik Lakshmanan B.E CSE 2006 Pass out AB – Batch Roll Number: 20022138 (I think) Mentoring @ DCSE, Anna University, Chennai http://dcseaucmentor.chronus.com Mentor Profile: http://dcseaucmentor.chronus.com/users/2054

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2010 is the 4th year since the B.E. CSE batch of 2006 passed out. This talk presents an overview of the different career paths chosen by the 2006 passouts. the mentor talks about different career choices including academic options like MS, PhD, MBA, and industry options and also put you in touch with people pursuing these choices themselves. The mentor also touches upon internships, summer research job opportunities in our college and elsewhere.

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Four years since B.E - What happened to the B.E. CSE 2006 batch?

Karthik LakshmananB.E CSE 2006 Pass outAB – Batch Roll Number: 20022138 (I think)

Mentoring @ DCSE, Anna University, Chennaihttp://dcseaucmentor.chronus.com

Mentor Profile: http://dcseaucmentor.chronus.com/users/2054

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Disclaimer

Disclaimer:

The views expressed in this talk are solely mine

- After approx. 4 years of engineering realize that: 1 sample is not representative of any reasonable sized population

- History is neither meant to predict nor meant to limit the future More of a means to plan and get a head-start into the problem

Please do not spam the people whose contact info I divulge

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Agenda

- Ph.d. - Freshers - Doing a Ph.d. after a stint in the Industry

- M.S.- Branching out into the industry

- Staying on for a Ph.d. - Doing an M.S. after a stint in the Industry

- M.B.A - Freshers - Doing an M.B.A after a stint in the Industry

- Industry - Opportunities in India - What are the opportunities overseas?

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Ph.d. (a story close to my heart)

(source: csd.cs.cmu.edu)

(source: Jorge cham...phdcomics.com...must read if you want to survive a Ph.d.)

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Why and Who?

(source: Jorge Cham ... www.phdcomics.com)

What Prof. Venkatraman felt about his nobel prize victory?

Academic excellence as an indicator for Ph.d. success?

So what is involved?

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What is Involved?

Lots of Passion

Courses: Anywhere from 8 – 12 advanced graduate-level courses

Teaching: 2 to 4 semesters of Teaching Assistantships

Qualifying Exam: Written and Oral Qualifying Exams

Research: Conference Publications Journal Publications Book Chapters

Thesis Job Opportunities (Academia and Industry)

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How to get started?

Research opportunities on campus: Professors have lots of interesting projects to work on - Know all the professors in the department

* even if they have not taught you a class - Approach them to see if you can be of any help Lend a helping hand to Ph.d. students

- You will learn a lot in the process Research Internships: Look for opportunities in MSR, IBM research, IITs and IISc

Attend conferences held in India Try to apply for travel grants or student scholarships

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Examples from my Batch

Lenin Ravindranath – Ph.d. MIT – After a 2 year stint at MSR Hyderabad

Myself – Ph. d. CMU – Directly after finishing my B.E.

Srinath Sridharan – Ph. d. Wisconsin Madison – After a M.S. from PSU

Leo Prasath – Ph. d. Wisconsin Madison – After 2 years at Amazon

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M. S.

Duration: 1 to 2 years

Scope: Overseas job opportunities/ Scout out for a Ph.d.

What is involved: Anywhere from 8 to 12 courses....Sometimes a Thesis

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Key Issues:

Funding: - Money is the most important reason to choose a direct Ph.d. - Masters students have very little funding opportunities - Probably 1:10 compared to Ph.d. students - Some universities are more friendlier for M.S. funding than others

Time: - Be quick to scout out for a job - Entire Masters program is almost a blur that whizzes past you

To work/not to work before joining masters - Industry experience helps you get jobs easily - Money can help you offset your tuition fees - Will you lose your enthusiasm?

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Funding

Research Assistantship: Work on a project for which a professor has secured funding Need prof. contact to secure this type of funding Usually results in additional work towards a master's thesis Best form of funding since it can help towards a tuition waiver

Teaching Assistantship: Typically a grading job with office hours Requires some sort of additional spoken English tests

On-campus jobs: Anything from desk jobs to manual labor Probably sufficient to offset your living...not enough for tuition

Summer Internships: Helps you offset chunks of your tuition fees

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Examples from my Batch

Dhivya Krishnan– M.S. Columbia – Now with Goldman Sachs

Praveen Durairaj – M.S. Stony Brook – Now with Goldman Sachs

Vinodh – M.S. Univ. of Illinois Chicago – Now with Goldman Sachs

Varadharajan – M.S. Univ. of Texas Austin (after 2 years at Amazon) – Now with Microsoft

Fredrick Prashanth – M. S. Purdue (after 2 years at CISCO) – Now with CISCO

Dharani Shankar – M. S. Penn State University – Now with VMWare

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M.B.A

(Source: Dilbert Comics)

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Doing an M.B.A

Popular choices: IIM and XLRI

Mandatory for earning the big bucks - Especially in Indian non-IT sectors - Great opportunities in Finance sectors

Job experience plays a vital role

If you are joining the industry you will think about an M.B.A soon

Overseas internship opportunities

Many job opportunities within India

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M.B.A in the U.S

Opens up lots of great opportunities

Best after 2-3 years of work experience in the U.S.

Downsides: - Lots of money required (tuition) - Enthusiasm to give GMAT 3-4 years down the line Other similar opportunities: - Finance courses Quants get paid handsomely Analysts can make much more than any tech job

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Examples from my Batch

Sriram – IIM A – Now working in ONG sector

Anith Prakash – IIM B – Now working for Indian Oil

Ganesh Jeyaraman – Currently at IIMB

Avinan Babu – IIM K

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Industry

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Big Companies and Startups

Big Companies: - Global Exposure - Perks and Benefits - Differentiation issues - Overseas opportunities - Onshore options - Permanent migration options

Startups - Growth Factor - Work Culture - Passion

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Value of Internships

Window into the working of a company - Best way to get a feel for the industry (typically 3 months long) - Reasonable pay for leading a luxurious final year for undergrads

Helps you decide between the academia and industry

Lots of companies look for interns: - Try to apply online - Search for contacts in the respective companies - Microsoft, IBM, Novell etc. have a standard internship program

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Examples from my Batch

Madhan, Prasad – With Microsoft U.S.

Amal Joe, Vijay Balaji – With Microsoft India

Gopinath, Aditya, Kantha – With Oracle

Shobana, Pavala Manikandaraja – CISCO

Srinivasan, Vikram Venkatesan – Chronus (startup)

Kiran Kumar, Meenakshi Sundaram – Global Scholar (startup)

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Summary

Ph.d. : If you love the academic environment - relaxed work culture, freedom, innovation/problem solving - willing to invest a significant chunk of your life to become a Dr. who cannot prescribe medicines

M.S: - you are looking for an overseas job opening - you want to scout out if you are ph.d. material

M.B.A. - Want to make big bucks and gutsy enough to clear the CAT (and lucky enough to escape without computer glitches)

Industry - Think you want to get your hands dirty, settle down and draw a paycheck - Looking to fund your upcoming M.B.A or M.S.

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Questions?

Lets chat right now

Feel free to drop in an e-mail:[email protected]

Mentoring @ DCSE, Anna University, Chennaihttp://dcseaucmentor.chronus.com

Mentor Profile: http://dcseaucmentor.chronus.com/users/2054