November 1999 Newsletter

Upcoming Meeting The Vice President's Report

December General Meeting Program:

''The Horned Frogs of South America: Evolution, Morphology and Larval Development"

Guest Speaker: Erik Wild

Holiday Banquet Program : "Neotropical Frogs and

Snakes ... and the Prey They Love"

Guest Speaker: Jeff Parmelee

Traditionally, the Minnesota Herpetological Society's back to back December General Meeting on Friday evening and the Holiday Banquet get together the following Saturday have always featured a single guest speaker who provided our group with dual presentations. These holiday season talks have often focused on some tropical or semi-tropical locality as well, which really isn't all that surprising when one considers the long bleak winter yet looming ahead of us soon to be snowbound Minnesotans. After alL who wouldn't prefer dreaming about a float trip down the Amazon or an expedition to the Galapagos to the thought of the seemingly endless process cold dreary days so typical of our Northland winter?

THE MINNESOTA HERPETOLOGICAL SOCIETY

Thinking it might be kind of nice to break with tradition just a bi~ this year I've decided to ask two very special guest speakers to join us at our annual December celebrations. Our Utag_teamll of presenters, Erik Wild of the University of Wisconsin. Stevens Point and Jeff Pannelee of Simpson College just south of Des Moines, are both graduates of the University of Kansas and continue the incredibly long line of prominent herpetologists which have historically emerged from that institution. Being something of a Hsummertime kind of guyll myself, however, I just couldn't bear to break with tradition too much and everyone can rest assured that each of their programs will still feature steamy, tropical climates.

At Friday's general meeting for example, Erik Wild will review the evolution, development and natural history of the tropical South American frogs of the genus Ceratophyrys. Based largely on Erik's studies of these animals in the field, his program will undoubtedly prove of interest to most MHS

, members, as Homed Frogs have long been popular captives among amphibian enthusiasts everywhere. Jeff Pannelee's Saturday presentation, on the other hand, will focus on the feeding habits of a variety of snakes and frogs found in the American Neotropics. Again based mainly on extensive studies of animals in their natural habitats, Jeffs program will likewise prove most informative and he has promised to include numerous slides of some truly spectacular species.

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As both programs are clearly "must seeH presentations... I'll just plan on seeing you there. After all ... it is the only opportunity you'll have to welcome both Erik and Jeff to their first of hopefully many visits to our society. Until next time, 'Hoppy Holidays!' JPL

MRS General Meeting Date: December 3, 1999 Time: 7:00 PM. Location: Borlaug Hall, Room 335, U of M, St Paul Campus

Holiday Banquet Date: December 4, 1999 Time: 6:30 PM Location: VFW Hall; 648 E. Lawson; Sl Paul, MN.

Donations for Food Shelves

As the Holidays drawn near and we think about family and friends take time to remember there are others less fortunate.

Although the weather has been mild this year, the local foodshelves are still busy and can use donations of canned or packaged non-perishable food items.

To participate simply bring your donations to the December MHS General Meeting. We will have drop­off boxes near the library. All items will be given to local Sl Paul and Minneapolis Foodshelves. Thanks for your support

Board of Directors

President Bill Moss (651) 488-1383

Vice President JOM Levell (507) 467-3076

Recording Secretary Julie Beauvais (612) 321'{)<)58

Membership Secretary Mark Schmidtke (651) 481-0127

Treasurer Marilyn Blasus (612) 925-4237

Newsletter Editor NancyHaig (612) 434-S684

Past President George Richard (651) 639-6368

Mennbers at Large JodiAhems (612) 588-9329 Nancy Hakomaki (612) 203-5295 Gordon Merck (612) 566-2001 Janel! Osborn (320) 654-0213

Committees

Adoption Sarah Richard (612) 202-3567

Education JanLu-son (507) 263-4391

Northern Minnesota Jeff Korbel (218) 586-2588

Occasional Papers John Moriarty (651) 482-8109

Rodent Sales Tina Cisewski (612) 856-2865

Hem Assistance

Amphibians Greg Kvanbek (651) 388-0305 John Meltzer (612) 263-7880 John Moriarty (651) 482-8109

Chameleons Vem& laurie Grassel (612) 428-4625

Crocodilians Jeff Lang (701) 772.(J227

Lizards NancyHaig (612) 434-S684

Big lizards, Monitors Bill Moss (651) 488-1383

Large boas, Python<; Tina Cisewski (612) 856-2865

Other snakes JeffLeOere (651) 488-6388 John Meltzer (612) 263-7880

Aquatic Turtles Gary Ash (612) 753-D218 John Levell (507) 467-3076

Terrestrial Turtles FredBosman (612) 47(}.()306 John Levell (507) 467-3076

The Minnesota Herpetological Society

Bell Museum of Natural History 10 Church Street, SE,

Minneapolis Minnesota, 55455-0104

Voice Mail: (612) 624-7065 Email: MinnHerps@aol.com

Internet: http://www.onrampinc.net/mhs/

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The purpose of the Minnesota Herpetological Society is to

• Further the education of the membership and the general public in care and captive propagation of reptiles and amphibians;

• Educate the members and the general public in the ecological role of reptiles and amphibians;

• Promote the study and conservation of reptiles and amphibians.

The Minnesota Herpetological Society is a non-profit, tax-exempt organization. Membership is open to all individuals with an interest in amphibians and reptiles. The Minnesota Herpetological Society Newsletter is published monthly to provide its members with information concerning the society's activities and a media for· exchanging infOlmation, opinions and resources.

General Meetings are held at Borlaug HaIl, Room 335 on the Sl Paul Campus of the University of Minnesota, on the first Friday of each month (unless there is a holiday conflict). The meeting starts at 7:00 pm and lasts about three hours. Please check the MHS Voicemail for changes in schedules or cancellations.

Submissions to the Newsletter Ads or Notices must be submitted no later than the night of the General Meeting to be included in the next issue. Longer articles will be printed as time and space allows. AIl active members are allowed a classified ad, run free of charge as space permits. Business cards are run for $5.00 per month. Items may be sent to: or Emailed to:

The Minnesota Herpetological Society Attn: Newsletter Editor Bell Museum of Natural HIstory 10 Church 51; SE Minneapolis, MN. 55455-0104

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Snakebite Emergency The Snakebite Emergency has changed

Hennepin Regional Poison Center 1 - (800) - 764 -7661

This should work for both local and out state <alls

Copyright Minnesota Herpetological Society 1999. Contents may be reproduced for non-profit use provided that all material is reproduced without change and proper credit is given authors and the MHS Newsletter citing: volume, number and date.

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NEWS, NOTES & ANNOUNCEMENTS I Critter Of The Month

No "critters" were presented this month

Help a Hapless Herp

There were 26 animals available for adoption at the N overnber Meeting. Adopted were:

1 sm Ornate Monitor 1 Snapping Turtle 1 Red-eared Slider 2 Common lloas 2 Green Iguanas 1 Albino Sonoran Gophersnake 1 Grey Ratsnake 1 Comsnake 2 Ball pythons 1 Alligator 1 Leopard Gecko 1 Tokay Gecko 1 Painted Turtle 2 Sulcata Tortoises

Still available:

4 Common lloas 4 Burmese Pythons 4 Iguanas possibles -Alligator

Caiman Asian llox Turtle California Kingsnake

If you are interested in adopting animals please contact Sarah Richard at (612) 202-3567.

Refreshments

Thanks to everyone who donated II goodies" for the refreshment table at the

November Meeting.

Don't forget to register for the Holiday Banquet!

When: December 4, 1999 6:30- 10:30 pm Where: VFW Hall, 648 E. Lawson, St. Paul Who: MHS members and family

$5.00 per person What: Social Hour 6:30-7:30

Potluck Supper 7:30 Special Speaker: Jeff Parmelee- Neotropical Frogs and

Snakes ... and the Prey They Love. Special Raffles

Send checks & registrations to MRS c/o The Bell Museum. Indude name, phone number, number of adulls@$5, number of children@ $5. & number of children free, And the potluck item you are bringing. (Appetizer, salad, vegetable, bread, main dish, dessert)

Call Bruce Haig (612) 434-8684 or Gordon Merck (612) 566-2001 if you have any questions. See you therel

Directions: 35E to Maryland Ave. exit Maryland Ave. east to Payne Ave. Right (south) on Payne Ave. to Lawson Ave. Right (east) on Lawson Ave. to parking behind VFW Hall. Entrance on Payne Ave. upstairs to Banquet

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MHS Newsletter Volume 18 Number 11

General Meeting Review

Recording Secretary's Report By Julie Beauvais

October's Speaker was Joy Norquist She owns a business called All Creatures Great and Small. Joy goes around to different activities, such as parties, and introduces kids and adults to different animals through the telling of Myths and Legends about the animals.

Each story has a moral or sometimes several. After the telling of the story Joy pulls out an animal that is similar to the one in the story. Joy said that most of the animals she uses in her presentations are animals that she has adopted.

One Slory that Joy tells is caIled the "Pumpkin Seed". It is about an old lady who is quite poor and one day while she is down by the river she finds an injured bird. She takes the bird home and nurses it back to health then releases it Later when she is down by the river the bird finds her and gives her a seed. She thanks the bird as it leaves and goes home to plant the seed. From this seed grows a vine which has twelve large pumpkins. The old woman invites her friend from down the river to share the pumpkins with her. The friend comes over and they open up the first pumpkin and it reveals a fabulous feast Each pumpkin has a feast inside and they eat like kings for twelve days.

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The other lady decides after they eat the food to find a pumpkin seed. So she searches for the bird for days, then out of frustration she throws a rock into a tree and the bird falls to the ground injured. She takes it home and wonders how long she wiII have to take care of it before it gives her a pumpkin seed. The bird slowly gets better and she releases it and waits down by the river. The bird finds her and and gives her a pumpkin seed. The old lady goes home, plants the seed and sure enough twele beautiful pumpkins grow.

Now this old lady, unlike the first old lady, decides not to share this gift So when she opens the first pumpkin it only contains maggots. In fact, all twelve pumpkins only contain maggots. This was a very enjoyable talk. Thank you, Joy, for sharing these stories with us.

-Jules

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February Photo Contest

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Categories are: Herps in a Natural Setting Herps with People Photos by Professionals Miscellaneous Styles

Sizes 4nx6", 5"x7", or gUxlO" ~mountings no larger than 11"x14".

Please put name, address and category on the back. Entries due by the December and January General Meetings.

Contact Michelle Hewitt (651) 604-0314

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All programs include lessons on responsibility, earth stewardship, and respect. All include live animals and are both entertaining and educational in nature.

Call Joy Norquist at 645-2757 for a free brochure and to book a program.

Program fees range from $65 - $100.

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Calcium Substrate Considerations

I am writing this to continue to complicate the substrate debate for reptile lovers once again. For the last two years I have known about a calcium carbonate substrate that was advertised to be really great for reptiles because if they ingested it it would be digestible and beneficial for them because it was calcium. A substance most anima1s need more of in captive settings. The two brands I have heard of are Cal-Strate and Frc-Flow. The Cal-Strate is specifically packaged for reptile bedding and tends to be pricey. The Fre-Flow is a cattle food additive that comes in 50 lb. Bags for about $2. Both are calcium carbonate granules that are about2x larger than normal play ground sand.

About 6 months ago, I finally decided to place my desert lizards, which consist of a chuckwalla, 2 bearded dragons, and a uromastyx on the Frc-Flow. Initially, I liked it. My lizards have always been messy eaters and dragged their food onto their substrate before eating it Feeding them outside their cages has never really worked for the chuckwalla or uromastyx. The beardeds never cared where they ate, but I did not believe the substrate would create a problem.

After about 3 months on the Frc-Flo, I noticed that the lizards were looking pale. The chalky white calcium was coating their scales. Washing did not remove the chalk for long. They were always burrowing into it I just lived with dusty lOOking lizards. I even started convincing other people to use this substrate for their lizards. It seemed to be a good solution It did not harbor molds and was easy to spot clean The animals loved to burrow. It was a great solution to the long-standing debate of substrate choices. I was not going to put everything on it but it worked for these guys.

Then, 2 weeks ago, I found my 5-year-<>ld uromastyx dead. He showed no signs of any health problems. He was alert active, and eating the day before. I had been taking him outside for regular sunning most of the summer and he had never looked healthier. It was a shock to us. I did not know what had gone wrong. We had this happen with a previous animal He had died due

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to impaction on his substrate. That was the last time I used orchid bark. I thought this could be a similar situation. Also, my female bearded dragon started dropping weight and discontinued eating. Two animals that were doing fine, suddenly having health problems made me worry. I then started looking at the last change we made, and that was the substrate. Even before really investigating the issue, I pulled all of my desert lizards off of the Frc-Flow.

On a whim, I put some of the Fre-Flow into a glass and tried to dissolve it Very little dissolved even overnight I contacted Janell Osborne about the situation to hear what she knew about this substrate. She said that she knew a breeder of bearded dragons that kept his hatchlings on it but discontinued using it because he was noticing impactions in the baby's cIoacas. Well, those were babies. Yet I started investigating my adults and found pieces of Frc-Flow in their cloacas as well I soaked my adults and started feeding them castor oil. Knowing full well that the water was not dissolving the calcium, but atleaststimulating them to defecate.

This prompted me to continue my investigation of this substrate. I took samples of Fre-Flow and Cal-Strate to work. I took Ig samples of each and placed it in varying concentrations of base and acid. I wanted to know if this stuff would dissolve in anything. I understand that a reptile's ability to digest food depends on many factors including temperature, but this test was just designed to give me an idea of what would happen. A lizard's stomach is an acid about pH 3 at a high concentration. Their intestines are basic at a high concentration about pH 9. In the lab I used 1M and 2M Hydrochloric Acid pH 14, tap and deionized water, and 1M and 2M Sodium Hydroxide pH 1. I added Ig of substrate to 10 mIs solution. The samples were then set in a 70'F constant temperature room for 4 days. I then carefully removed the liquid and dried it I recorded the weight of the remaining material (what had been dissolved in the solution). This is a table of my findings:

pH % absorbed

I 17.47% 1 19.31% I 12.29"10 1 18.79"10 7 3.28% 7 2.29% 7 3.14% 7 2.92% 14 14.65% 14 12.71% 14 36.22%

Calcium Substrate Considerations

Overall, this shows that the calcium carbonate substrates do not dissolve very well in any of the solutions that I made. The best I got was 36% with the 2M basic solution. Still, that is only 1/3'" of what actually has been ingested by the animal that is easily able to pass through the system. For me, that was not good enough. These particles are about 2X larger than normal sand, which has also been known to cause impactioN under certain conditions.

When I continued my investigation a little further to see if anyone else had encountered problems with these substrates, I found that most breeders do not use these materials. According to jason Creager, a uromastyx breeder, "Calcium sand acts as an antacid which neutralizes stomach acids adversely effecting digestion."

Nike just did it - vests for Jamaican Iguanas By Andy Dworkin Oregonian (portland) Star Tribune October3, 1999 Variety section, page E10

Shifting from track to tracking, Nike has released its latest specialty apparel - tiny vests custom-made for the endangered jamaican iguana.

Nike has built 15 of the rugged gannents, complete with a tiny white swoosh, to hold radio transmitters that let scientists keep tabs on the 100 or fewer lizards living in the wild. A couple dozen live in wos.

The unusual project was hatched at the Sedgwick County Zoo near Wichita, Kan., where herpetologists are working to save the rare iguanas. The wo-keepers' own attempts at fashion design fell apart amid the belly­scraping rigors of lizard life.

"A lizard is so low to the ground, it's really more like developing footwear, with an abrasion resistant underbelly," Nike spokeswoman Dawn Leonetti said.

So in 1998, reptile curator Karen Graham caJled Nike's All Condition Gear unit in Beaverton, Ore., which makes rugged outdoor wear.

"Honestly, I thought that it was an interesting design challenge," said Damon Clegg, the Nike designer who headed team iguana. "Anyone that got involved with it loved it"

A summer intern, Chiwei Lee, drew the initial sketches, which other designers revised. After months of work, the first vests were sent to Wichita for field testing.

Zookeepers suggested a few changes, such as toning down the bright yellow and white materials used in prototypes.

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By Michelle M. Hewitt

I am not saying this material is bad under all circumstances. It still has many advantages. I am writing this so people are warned. There is a long-standing debate about sand impactions and if they really do cause death in desert lizards. I actually successfully raised a hatchling bearded dragon on sand, which is supposed be bad for them. One should just use caution and once again make sure that substrate is not eaten by your animals.

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"If we used bright colors on them, it tums them into fodder for bigger animals," Clegg said. "They'd attract things with big teeth."

After about six redesigns, Nike produced the current vest a demure gray-blue jacket Although the garment looks simple, "its acmally quite a teclmical piece," Leonetti said.

The vest must grow with the lizards, so it is made to stretch. Nike used its Dri-AT fabric, which channels moisture from the skin for fast evaporation, because trapping heat next to the skin could hurt the coldblooded animals.

"Its similar to what athletes need" to keep cool in the sun, Clegg said.

The company is donating 15 vests. One of Sedgwick County Zoo's three iguanas is currently testing a vest The other garments will be tested in jamaica. If they work well, Leonetti said. Nike will make 50 more.

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MHS Board of Directors

Nominations for Board of Directors

The Annual Meeting of the Minnesota He'1"'tological Society will be held March 3, 2000. During the meeting the elections for the new Board of Directors will take place. Nominations are being sought for the following positions.

President Vice President Recording Secretary Membership Secretary Treasurer Newsletter Editor Members -at- Large

(5 positions)

If you would like to run for one of these positions or nominate someone else please contact Julie Beauvais (612) 321-0958.

If you would like more information concerning the duties involved pl ... se contact the board member holding the position (see listings on the inside of the newsletter cover).

The board members are putting together some comments concerning their jobs and what it's like to serve on the board. Here are some that were reviewed at the November Meeting.

Treasurer

Being the treasurer is much like having "your" checking account. That is: if you balance yours every month to the penny; if you keep fantastic records; create a report of your spending and income on a monthly basis; and review the results with your family! Now for me thts all comes easy as I am a detail fanatic and an accountant by career.

In addition to paying MHS's bills and recording and depositing MHS's money, there is the job of creating the monthly Treasurer'. Report There is also the job of attending the general meeting to collect money from chairpeople and other monetary issues.. Plus attending the board meetings to have the report presented and accepted (and give input and vote on issues).

Not counting the time spent at the two meetings, it generally takes about 10 - 15 hours on the average month to do the treasurer related stuff. On an annual basis, there is the required audit and budget to complete.

Lastly no job description would be complete without saying that there are other duties as assigned (or gnilted into doing) and thts is where you can spent a lot of time over the year.

Marilyn Blasus

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Newsletter Editor

The job of the newsletter editor is relatively simple. All you have to do is publish a monthly newsletter for the society and attend the general meetings and board meetings.

The style and fonnat of the newsletter is up to the editor. Each editor can create their own system for compiling the information they want to publish. Standard items such as the treasurer's reports and upcoming meeting notices are supplied by various board members. Other items are submitted by the membership.

Depending on your typing skills and access to computer programs creating the newsletter can take up to 20 hours to produce a "camera ready" master to take to the printer.

Once at the printers, the editors job is finished. The newsletter folding team takes over and readies the printed sheets for mailing out to the membership.

Serving on the board is almost a perk, it lets you get involved in tile business end of the society and gives you an opportunity to really voice your opinion on issues you really care about

NancyHaig

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M.H.S. BUSINESS

MHS Coming Events

December 3, 1999 MHS General Meeting. 335 Borlaug Hall, U of M, St Paul Campus, 7:00p.m

December 4, 1999 Holiday Banquet VFW Hall, 648 E. Lawson, St Paul. Social Hour starts 6:30 pm, Dinner 7:30pm -10:3Opm.

January 7, 2000 MHS General Meeting. "So You Want to Breed Reptiles Professionally?" Guest Speaker: John Meltzer. 335 Borlaug Hall, U of M St Paul Campus, 7:00 PM.

February 4, 2000 MHS General Meeting . "MHS Annual White Snake Sale & Photo Contest" 335 Borlaug Hall, U of M St Paul Campus, 7:00 PM.

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Treasurer's Report of October 1999 Prepared by Marilyn Brooks Blasus

Beginning checkbook balance: Income:

Membership: 540.00 Library Fines 2.00 Raffle 19,25 Sales 133.00 Rodent Sales 283.% Donations(Renfest) 798.95 Adoption/placement 50.00 Misc. 22.00 Mise ( Renf .. t ck) 2250.00 Misc. ( McKeown fund) 20.00

Total income:

Expense: Newsletter Misc. prt/post Program Library Supplies Refreshments Sales costs Adoption Expense Misc. (McKeown fund) Misc. (renfest) Open Savings acct

439.00 134.45

50.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0,00

40.00 20.00

397.70 1400.00

Total Expense: Net income/ (loss)

Ending checkbook balance:

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CLASSIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS I Ousified ads are free to the member8hip. Deadline is the night of the got'ne.ra1 meeting to be included in the Mxt newsletrer. Mail to:}'UIS Editor, Bell Mu$eUll\ of Natural History, 10 Church St., SE, "Minneapolis, MN, 5-5455 l.o.~ male, 0.1.0= fuma1e.. 0.0.1 = unsexed, cb .. captive bred, obo"or be&toifer,+" tur-run. (a& are run only 3x unlessreques!:ed towntinue.)

For Sale: Geckos .. Gonuirosaurns Lichtenfedim breeding pair $300. 0.2 Giant Day Geckos, 0.1 Golden Gecko, Various size and sex Leopard and Panther Geckos $20. and up. Large Lizard ... 0.1 B&W Tegu, dog tame, 3 'h ft long 2 'h yrs old w / 4'wide x 3' deep x 2 'h ' cage $275. Heather C. Matson (612) 871-7334 ++

0.0.4 P.M. Grandis Babies cb 8/99 $20. Each Call Craig (612) 368-%89 ++

Veiled Chameleons, babies $40., Adult Breeders $50., Screen cage setups $75. Call Vern (612) 428-4625 +++

Yearling Carpet Python, excellent colors, good feed response, $150. obo. Jake (5CI7) 433-3006 +++

1.0.0 cb Florida Keys Cornsnake, Exceptional specimen, $80. Contact Richard or Liam Bonk (612) 727-3562 +++

Ground Gecko Freak-Male Sale. 4-male Bolivian Prickly Gecko $50. Ea., 1- Male Viper Gecko $75., 2-male Leopard Gecko $40. Ea., 1 male Leopard Gecko (bad lip) $20., 2-female Bearded Dragons "Sandfire Bloodline" not much red, real dark- (1 @12", 1 @14")head to tail $50. Ea., Com's, snow, albino, zig-zag, normals, red Okeeteel all captive bred '99, $15 to $50. Looking for Leopard Geckos of all sizes, Females only, Call if you have any. Jodi L Aherns (612) 588-9329 +

Frozen Rabbits - all sizes. Prices very reasonable- pinkies to adults. Jim Daluge (612) 295-2818

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Jim's Rabbit Shack "Where Spots Are Tops"

JIM DALUGE (612) 295-2818

8700 Jaber Ave. NE Monticello. MN 55362

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Wanted: All the shed snake sklns in the world. Needed for giveaways at educational programs contact Bob Duerr 541-0362

Information Request: Please send the following: 1. A complete inventory of all reptiles and amphibians living in your collection as of January 1. Include numbers of males, females or unknown sex. 2. A Ust of all species bred during the previous year. Bare minimum would be to mark the species bred and indicate if they laid eggs or gave live birth. If possible include more detailed notes of a paragraph or more. 3. List of all species, living or dead which you may believe may be record length. 4. Be sure to list your name, address and telephone number, fax as you want them listed. Please be legible. Anonymous submissions will be considered, try to at least list your name and state. 5. If you know of a person keeping reptiles and amphibians in captivity that has not responded please encourage them to do so. All collectors should respond. Send to Frank L. Slavens, PO Box 30744, Seattle, Washington, 98103, or Fax 206 546 2912

MHS Hats are still available by special order. They are white witha blue logo or khaki with a green logo. One size fits all, $8.00ppd or $10.00 if you want your name embroidered on the back. Contact Gordon Merck (612) 566-2001

Proud Member M.H.S. G.G.A. I.G.S.

JODI L. AHERNS Ground Gecko freak

African Fat· Tailed Gecko Leucistic Leopard Gecko 5 Other Morphs of Leopards Homonota Horrida

2946 Thomas Ave. N. Mpls .• MN 55411

612·588·9329

Advertising Policies MHS Ad Policy: The MHS assumes NO RESPONSIBILITY regarding the health or legality of any animal, or the quality or legality of any product or service advertised in the MHS Newsletter. Any ad may be rejected at the discretion of the Newsletter Editor. Due to space limitations, unpaid and complimentary advertisements are subject to occasional omission.

Classified Ads: All active members are allowed a classified ad, run free of charge as space permits. Ads may be run (3) consecutive months, after which time they may be resubmitted. Corresponding members are allowed a complimentary business card advertisement monthly as space permits. Due to Federal restrictions on Non-profit mailing permits, we are not allowed to run ads for travel, credit or insurance agencies.

Display Ad Rates: Ad Size per Month \4 page $10.00 'h page $20.00

full page $40.00 Business card advertisements may be purchased at $5.00 per ad, per month.

Submission.: All advertisements should be submitted to the MHS Editor, BeU Museum of Natural History, 10 Church St. SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455. Deadline is the night of the General Meeting for inclusion in the next newsletter. Make checks payable to: Minnesota Herpetological Society

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New Renewal Membershi #

MHS Rodent Sales

Mice Pinkies Fuzzies Hoppers Adults

Rats Sm. Pups LgPups Juvn Rats. Adults

$7.00 dozen $7.00 dozen $8.00 dozen $10.00 dozen

$12.00 dz. $18.00 dz. $24.00 dz. $15.00 six $30.00 dz.

For pick up at monthly meetings only. Orders must be placed at least one week in advance of date of meeting at which the frozen rodents are to be delivered. Place orders with Tina (Rat Girl) Cisewski at (612) 856-2865.

All prC}(eeds go toward the operating costs of the society. The MHS is a completely volunteer run, non-profit organization.

Membership Application

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Name ____________________________________________________________________________ __

Addre$ ______________________________________________________________________ ___

City __________________________________ State Zip _________ __

Phone _______________ .email List in MHS Directory? ____ yes __ No

Herp related interests ___________________________________________________ _

Active Memberships : ____ Sustaining ($60/yr) __ Contributing ($30/yr) __ Basic ($151yr)

Corresponding Memberships: ___ Gold Commercial ($100/yr 2 full pg. ads) ____ Silver Commercial ($75/yr 2 1/2 pg.

ads) ___ Bronze Commercial ($50/yr 2 1/4pg ads) ____ Basic Commercial ($25/yr 2 Bus cards)

Required check info Drivers Lic # State DOB Please enclose the proper payment with your application. MAKE CHECKS PAYABLE TO: MINNESOTA ---------­HERPETOLOGICAL SOCIETY. Membership is for 12 months from the date of approval. a receipt will be sent only upon request. MAIL TO: Minnesota Herpetological Society. Bell Museum of Natural History. 10 Church St. SE. Minneapolis. MN 55455. Please allow 6 - 8 weeks for proce$ing.

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December 3, 1999

Rm. 335 Borlaug Hall, U of M st. Paul Campus

Start time: 7:00 p.m.

MHS Voicemail: (612) 624 - 7065

Internet: http://www.onrampinc.netlmhs/

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