Moral evil case:• Virginia Tech Massacre.

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32 victimsincluding:

Professor Liviu Libresku

A Jewish holocaust survivor…

The Blame Game

Whose fault is it?

Well obviously…

But who else's fault was it?

Jack Johnson‘Cookie Jar’

The Blame GameWhose fault is it?

• ‘it was me, it was you, it was every man, we all got blood on our hands…’

• What about if you believed someone created everything?

•Surely they would have more blood on their hands than anyone.

Why might this be a problem for people who believe in

God?• Isn’t God meant to be all

powerful?• Isn’t God meant to be good?

Perfect even?• The world doesn’t always

look like it was made by someone like that.

So that’s it. Debate over.God DOES NOT EXIST

God is Beneficent God is Omnipotent

Evil EXISTS

And we can so see it!

These can’t all be true… It’s logically impossible.

Or is it?

Put another way…

• P1 God is all powerful.• P2 God is perfectly good.• P3 evil exists• P4 if God exists, no evil should exist.• P5 but evil does exist

• C Therefore God does not exist.Convinced??

But we choose to do most of the terrible things that cause

suffering to each other.• What would the world be like if we

were unable to do bad things?• Discuss in twos or threes.• Draw a picture or write a short

paragraph titled ‘A World with No Choice.’

Augustine was a monk that lived more than 1500 years

ago!• He thought that free will

was so important to what was created. That it was worth the resulting evil in the world.

• That humans have a choice was central to what it means to be human for him as a Christian

Augustine

• P1 free will requires the potential to do anything

• P2 thus it requires the potential to do evil

• C for God to make a world with no evil, he would have to deny us free will

What about this??

Surely that wasn’t our fault?

Or was it??