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Valuation different for digitalised banks?
By Jan Erik Gjerland
Equity research
ABG Sundal Collier
17 January 2020
Strictly Private & Confidential
How we value a bank…fundamentally…ROE vs. P/BV
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2.2
Nordic Banks - P/BV and ROE 12m fwd
P/BV (lhs) ROE (rhs)
P/BV (x)
Source: Factset & ABGSC Research
ROE
Any difference in banks with branches…
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0.30
0.50
0.70
0.90
1.10
1.30
1.50
1.70
1.90
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19
DNB
ROE DNB PBV DNB
…vs. bank without branches – Sbanken- it looks like it boils down to the ROE
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0.90
1.00
1.10
1.20
1.30
1.40
1.50
1.60
1.70
11.00
11.20
11.40
11.60
11.80
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12.60
12.80
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Dec-1
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Sbanken
ROE Sbank PBV Sbank
…vs. NOFI – does products have something to say?- maybe? Or just higher ROE?
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0.9
1.4
1.9
2.4
2.9
3.4
3.9
4.4
4.9
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Oct-15
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Aug-1
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-17
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17
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7
Aug-1
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17
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-18
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18
Jun-1
8
Aug-1
8
Oct-18
Dec-
18
Feb
-19
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19
Jun-1
9
Aug-1
9
Oct-19
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19
NOFI
ROE NOFI PBV NOFI
…so its not if you are digitalised or not- its the ROE – look at Nordea 2000-2020
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0.30
0.50
0.70
0.90
1.10
1.30
1.50
1.70
1.90
6.00
8.00
10.00
12.00
14.00
16.00
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Jul-0
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Ap
r-15
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Jul-1
7
Ap
r-18
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19
NDA
ROE NDA PBV NDA
…or maybe its the- its the ROE – look at Nordea 2010-2020
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0.70
0.80
0.90
1.00
1.10
1.20
1.30
1.40
1.50
1.60
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Feb-1
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Jul-1
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Dec-1
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May-1
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Au
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NDA
ROE NDA PBV NDA
Costs:
Old «rule of thumb»
- Cover costs by by net interest income…
That is no longer the case
…must go towards 25% !!!
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ROE contributors for Nordic banks:- Cost-efficiency, been extremely important- Nordic banks looks good in an European perspective…
9 Source: ABG Sundal Collier, Company reports, Nordics banks are Danske Bank and its predecessors, DNB and its predecessors, Nordea and its predecessors,
SHB, SEB and Swedbank and its predecessors.
40.0%
45.0%
50.0%
55.0%
60.0%
65.0%19
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Nordic banks - Average adjusted C/I ratio
Source: Company reports & ABGSC Research
…but there is a negative pattern of late from IT and AML-costs
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30.0%
40.0%
50.0%
60.0%
70.0%
80.0%
90.0%1998
1999
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2008
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2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019e
2020e
2021e
Nordic banks - Adjusted C/I ratios
Danske Bank DNB Swedbank
Handelsbanken Nordea SEB
Source: Company reports & ABGSC Research
Norwegian banks – cost-to-income
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30.0%
35.0%
40.0%
45.0%
50.0%
55.0%
60.0%
65.0%
70.0%
75.0%
80.0%
85.0%1989
1990
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2015
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2017
2018
2019e
2020e
2021e
Norwegian banks - Cost-income* 1989-2021e
SR-Bank MING NONG SVEG DNB Sbanken
Source: Bank's reports and ABGSC calc. * Cost-income-ratio ex. trading
… and have really understood its competition is not the oldbanks, but the new challengers
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32.5%
35.0%
37.5%
40.0%
42.5%
45.0%
47.5%
50.0%
52.5%
55.0%
57.5%
60.0%
62.5%
65.0%
2005
2006
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2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019e
2020e
2021e
Norwegian banks - Cost income-ratio ex. trading
SR-Bank MING NONG SVEG SPOL DNB Sbanken
Source: Bank's reports and ABGSC calc. * Cost-income-ratio ex. trading
Challenger banks – like consumer banks – is 25-30% C/I the norm going forward?
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25.0%
30.0%
35.0%
40.0%
45.0%
50.0%
55.0%
60.0%
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019e 2020e 2021e
C/I ratios adj.
Bank Norwegian Collector Komplett Bank
TF Bank BRAbank Resurs Holding
Source: Company reports & ABGSC Research
So costs vs ROE or just the positive jaws?
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52%
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35% 30%
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2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019e 2020e 2021e
Cost-income-ratioGrowth
Sbanken - Cost-income-ratio improving - income is growing faster than costs again, but 2018
Growth in revenues Growth in costs
Cost / Income-ratio Cost / Adj.income-ratio
Source: Sbanken's interim report, ABG Sundal Collier.
ROE and costs - MING
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15.2%
52.8%
47%
52%
57%
62%
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ROE (l.h.s) Cost/income ex. trading (r.h.s)
In the old days this worked…as there was not so much capital
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30%
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50%
55%
60%
65%
70%
75%
80%9%
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13%
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21%
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019e 2020e 2021e
Sbanken - ROE cs adj. C/I
ROE, excl. trading & capital gains Cost/income ex. trading (RHS)
Sbanken & NOFI - P/E-valuation
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5.00
7.00
9.00
11.00
13.00
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P/E-valuation
Sbanken Bank Norwegian
…at the end of the day - it looks like it boils down to the ROE
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0.90
1.00
1.10
1.20
1.30
1.40
1.50
1.60
1.70
11.00
11.20
11.40
11.60
11.80
12.00
12.20
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12.60
12.80
13.00
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15
Dec-1
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b-1
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g-1
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Sbanken
ROE Sbank PBV Sbank
Questions??
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Capital is a scare resource,
and
needed for growth!
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3.0%
3.5%
4.0%
4.5%
5.0%
5.5%
6.0%
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Average Avg ex Danske Linear (Average)
From Basel 1 to Basel 4!- long term linear trend up from 4.5% to 5.5%-leverage ratio in the Nordics
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Recapitalisation
phase after
Norwegian &
Swedish banking
crisis
New growth phase
post crisis
Basel 2-race to the
bottom on lowest
possible risk-weights
Renewed focus on
more capital than less
after financial crisis
Repatriation of
capital after build up
phase to an end?
Source: ABG Sundal Collier, Company reports, Nordics banks are Danske Bank and its predecessors, DNB and its predecessors, Nordea and its predecessors,
SHB, SEB and Swedbank and its predecessors.
Capital levels, once must hold between 15-17% CET1-req- banks hold 17-19%, like to have a mgmt. buffer
22
Norway about to tranfer to CRD4/Basel 3– easier for IRB, less so for non-IRB-banks
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0.5%
1.5%
2.5%
3.5%
4.5%
5.5%
6.5%
7.5%
8.5%
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Danske DNB Nordea SEB SHB Swedbank
Huge variation among banks on simple leverage ratio– DNB’s continue to increase, like most savings banks
24 Source: ABG Sundal Collier, Company reports, Nordics banks are Danske Bank and its predecessors, DNB and its predecessors, Nordea and its predecessors,
SHB, SEB and Swedbank and its predecessors.
-15%
-10%
-5%
0%
5%
10%
15%
20%
25%
30%
35%
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Danske DNB Nordea SEB SHB Swedbank
Adj. return on equity between 15-20%, for DNB, SWED & SEB- all banks had same (simple) leverage ratio of 4.7%
25 Source: ABG Sundal Collier, Company reports, Nordics banks are Danske Bank and its predecessors, DNB and its predecessors, Nordea and its predecessors,
SHB, SEB and Swedbank and its predecessors.
Adj. return on equity just above 10%, for DNB, SWED & SEB- all banks had same (simple) leverage ratio of 7%(!)
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-10%
-5%
0%
5%
10%
15%
20%
25%
1991
1992
1993
1994
1995
1996
1997
1998
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
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2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
20
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e
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e
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21
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Danske DNB Nordea SEB SHB Swedbank
Source: ABG Sundal Collier, Company reports, Nordics banks are Danske Bank and its predecessors, DNB and its predecessors, Nordea and its predecessors,
SHB, SEB and Swedbank and its predecessors.
How banks can make high ROE in a low rate environment
• Increase its risk-adjusted margins
• Increase capital light commission and fees
• i.e. improve sale of capital light insurance products, life & non-
life, AM, real estate
• Continue the cost-efficiency
• Avoid loan losses, as margins in general are too low
• Improve the leverage, distribute capital if possible
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