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Using Motivational Interviewing Techniques in the Employment Process

Presented by

Diana Beckley, MA CRC

University of MO-Columbia TACE7 Adapted from presentations by Christine Johnson, Linda Hedenblad TACE-5 and Casey Jackson, Amy Knizek, University of Washington

Disability Policy & Studies, University of

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Welcome

Keeping in touch

◦ Diana Beckley

◦ 573-234-6216

◦ Campus office: 573 882-3807

[email protected]

◦ Office Hours: 7:30-5:30 M-TH

Introductions

◦ What are your expectations for this training

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Training goals

Training Goal

◦ Basic introduction to Motivational

Interviewing concepts

Keeping Equipoise

Resisting the Righting Reflex

Identifying ambivalence in the

employment process

Assessing stage of change and

matching intervention

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LESS

DEFENSIVE

Making a Case for MI

MI

SKILLS

BETTER

CASE

INFO

COUNSELORS

LESS

ATTACHED

TO OUTCOMES

MORE OPEN

TO EXPLORING

AMBIVALENCE

TO CHANGE

BETTER

CASE

DECISIONS

LESS

BURNOUT

AND

TURNOVER

Better

Outcomes

Better

Outcomes

Better

Outcomes

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It is not WHAT we KNOW it is

HOW we BLEND the

ingredients. The Key to Motivational Interviewing is matching our interventions with our

customer’s stage of change around employment

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What is Motivational Interviewing?

Model of skills and techniques to help clients become ready, willing, and able to be employed (change)

Person-centered, directive and non-confrontational

Uses reframing and silence to reveal individual personal strengths discrepancies between stated values and behaviors

http://www.centerforebp.case.edu/library/stream.cfm?mp3=

MI%20Embracing%20Ambivalence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj1BDPBE6Wk

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MI and Employment

Helps people identify their ◦ Employment goal,

◦ Recognize discrepancies,

◦ Structure self identified experiences or items necessary to reach their employment goal, and

◦ Solidifies goal ownership

Activate clients

Help them sustain employment through learned self motivational techniques

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Elements of MI

Minimize resistance

Create and amplify, from the consumer’s perspective, a discrepancy between present behavior and his/her broader goals and values

Explore and resolve ambivalence

Elicit “change talk”

Set in motion the client’s natural change potential

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Ineffective Physician

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XyNE89eCs&feature=related

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Effective Physician

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URiKA7CKtfc&feature=related

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Techniques of MI

Open-ended Questions

Affirmations

Rolling with Resistance

◦ Avoid arguing

Summerize

Develop Discrepancy

Support Self-Efficacy

Empathy

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Demonstrating Empathy

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Rolling with Resistance

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Roll with Resistance

When encountering resistance to change, do

not confront it directly

◦ Reframe it and reflect it in a way that decreases

resistance

◦ Avoid arguing for change

Encountering resistance is a sign you should

shift your approach

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Roll with Resistance

Dancing vs. Wrestling

Guiding vs. Directing

Tapping vs. Pulling

Consulting vs. Instructing

When you encounter resistance, step back,

listen, and try to understand things from the

client’s perspective.

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◦ The challenge is to first intensify and then resolve

ambivalence by developing discrepancy between the

actual present and the desired future

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Developing Discrepancy

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Supporting Self-Efficacy

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MI Assumptions

Ambivalence about change

is normal

Ambivalence can be

resolved by working with

intrinsic motivations and

values.

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Ambivalence

“I want to, and I don’t want to”

◦ A normal part of the change process

◦ Helping to resolve ambivalence is a key step

in facilitating change

◦ Resolving ambivalence uncovers intrinsic

motivation for change

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Ambivalence All Tangled Up!

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Techniques for Resolving Ambivalence

Ask open ended questions

Affirm client’s autonomy

Listen reflectively

Summarize

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Righting Reflex –NO FIXIN’! We want to “make things right”

With MI, practitioners doesn’t try to make things right. The counselor does not try to change the client’s behavior.

Change comes from the client’s intrinsic motivation

To succeed at motivational interviewing, resist the righting reflex!

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Just STOP IT!

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Equipoise

Pronounced

ek-wuh-poiz

–an equal

distribution of

weight; even balance;

equilibrium

Our job is to

maintain a neutral

position regardless of

what people share

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Employment

Support Person

Outcomes

Beliefs

Ambivalence

Decisions

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Within the Spirit of MI

People are either in Ambivalence or in Action

It is our responsibility to correctly identify where the person is and the intervention necessary

The person is responsible for the outcome

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The Spirit of Motivational Interviewing

Collaboration – counseling involves a partnership that honors the clients expertise and perspectives

Confrontation – overriding the client’s impaired perspectives by imposing awareness and acceptance of “reality” that the client cannot see or will not admit

Evocation – Resources and motivation are presumed to reside within the client

Education – The client is presumed to lack key knowledge, insight, and/or skills that are necessary for change to occur

Autonomy – The counselor affirms the client’s right and capacity for self direction

Authority – The counselor tells the client what he or she needs to do

Motivational Interviewing Opposite Approach

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R Resist the “professional” reflex

U Understand the client’s motivation to change

L Listen with Empathy

E Empower the client

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Spirit of MI and RULE

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Understanding the process of behavior change

People change behavior because they are

◦ Ready

◦ Willing

◦ Able

Change is not linear

Change is most persistent when it is internally

motivated

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Stages of Change

Pre-contemplation

Contemplation

Preparation

Action

Maintenance

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Stages of Change

Derailment

(Backsliding)

◦ "Life happens"

◦ Can happen anytime

during the process

◦ It is not unusual

◦ Teaches people more

about their goals and

the supports they

need for success

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Stages of Change Model

Offers framework for understanding

resistance and behavior change

Series of stages through which

people progressively pass as they

change behavior

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Realities of Change

•Change does not occur overnight

•Change is a gradual process with

• occasional setbacks – not an outcome

•Thinking and Doing components

•Other positives/successes occur

•Related to and dependent on all aspects of the

person’s being. (H.A.L.T.)

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Basic Assumptions of the Stages of Change Model

People can remain stuck in the early

stages.

Individuals who are experiencing

resistance are not prepared for action…

Intervention must be appropriate to each

person’s stage of change (Stage Matching).

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Can happen anytime

during the

employment process.

It is not unusual and

people learn more

about their goals and

supports necessary

for success.

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Pre contemplation

◦ I don’t think I have a problem if you have a problem with me not working, then it is your problem

Contemplation

◦ Ok I see not working is causing me some problems, but I don’t really want to do anything about it

Preparation

◦ Learning about resources and how to access them, preparing to be employed, hearing some change talk, making plans for employment

Action

◦ Start or stop behavior in this case begin either begins preparation for employment (discovery process, training, JDJP) or actual employment

Sticking to it (Maintenance)

6 months to 2 years

Derailment or Life Happens

◦ Try to prevent the reverting back any farther than necessary

◦ Debrief, what did the person learn from the experience? What can be done differently?

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5 Stages of Change

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Cues for Pre-contemplation

Partly or completely unaware that a problem

exists.

Ignores or resists evidence.

Not considering change/do not intend to

change in the foreseeable future.

Unwilling or too discouraged to change.

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Pre-contemplation

CHARACTERISTICS: Appear to be argumentative, hopeless or in "denial.“

TRAP: natural tendency is to try to "convince" them or push into action

YOUR ROLE: empathically engage the person into contemplating change

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Pre-contemplation

GOAL: Reduce resistance… ease

into exploring potential change

DO NOT: argue

or try to convince

– this fuels

resistance.

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CONTINUED RESISTANCE

If the person continues to be resistant, YOU have moved too far ahead of the person in the change process. With resistance, “more” intensity is not better. More intensity will produce fewer results.

Shift back to empathy and thought provoking questions or reflections

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Cues for Contemplation

Be aware a problem exists

Considering the possibility of change

Acknowledges concern and reason to change

Ambivalent – reasons to change and reasons not to

change

Can get stuck in “Chronic Contemplation” –

substitute thinking for action

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Contemplation

GOAL: Person will examine benefits and barriers to change.

YOUR ROLE:

Develop and maintain a positive relationship

Personalize risk factors (you statements)

Pose questions regarding the person’s risk factors

Pose questions regarding the person’s perceived “bottom line.”

Can be more straightforward

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Cues for Preparation

Commitment is strengthened

Specific planning for change within the

month

Examination of strengths & capabilities

Set goals and make commitments

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Action Stage

Actively modifying…

◦Behaviors

◦ Emotions

◦ Surroundings

◦…in specific ways to address employment goal

Behavior change is the main focus

Reevaluation of self-image

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Action Stage

Developing new recreational choices and social

contacts

Derailment prevention plans are crucial at this

point

◦ Learn to detect and guard against triggers

◦ Learn to change destructive thought processes and

emotional responses

◦ Develop new coping skills to handle derailment -

prone situations.

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Maintenance Stage

Achieved the goals and sustained the gains

(minimum 6 months – up to 2 yrs)

Reviews goals and sets new ones

Uses healthy coping strategies

Pursues new hobbies and activities

Continues to refine Plan B for when “life

happens”

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What gets the way of our Communications?

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Thomas Gordon’s

12 Roadblocks

1. Ordering, directing 2. Warning, threatening 3. Giving advice, making suggestions,

providing solutions 4. Persuading with logic, arguing, lecturing 5. Moralizing, preaching 6. Judging, criticizing, blaming

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Thomas Gordon’s 12 Roadblocks (cont.)

7. Agreeing, approving, praising

8. Shaming, ridiculing, name calling

9. Interpreting, analyzing

10. Reasoning, sympathizing

11. Questioning, probing

12. Withdrawing, distracting, humoring, changing the subject

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Question/Answer Trap

Premature Focus Trap

Confrontation Trap

Blaming Trap

Expert Trap

Labeling Trap

Traps to Avoid

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What’s YOUR Challenge?

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TIME to PRACTICE

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Count off in Groups of 2….

Ones are Interviewees; Twos are Interviewers

Interviewee: Pick something in your life that is an issue or a challenge

Nothing will be disclosed about your exchange unless you do the disclosing

We want to know how you felt about the exchange/dialog

Interviewer: Try to solve your partner’s issue by giving pertinent information and advice addressing it.

SWITCH Roles

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2nd time around

Interviewee: Using the same challenge as before

We still want to know how you felt about the

exchange/dialog

Interviewer:

◦ Assess your interviewee’s stage of change

◦ Listen and reflect without giving unsolicited advise

Switch Roles

Was there a difference in how the 2 exchanges

felt, as an interviewee and as the interviewer?

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O.A.R.S.

◦Open-ended Questions (vs. close-ended )

◦Affirmations (positive-focus on strengths, efforts)

◦Reflective Listening (listen carefully; use

silence)

◦Summarizing (appropriate; use sparingly)

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SCALING QUESTIONS Ready, Able, Willing and Resources

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Ready, Able, Willing, and Resource Ruler

Pick a number between 1-10

◦ 1 not being prepared-10 being extremely prepared

◦ Readiness=time

◦ Ability=skill

◦ Willingness=priorities

◦ Resources=knowing what they need to reach their

employment goal

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1. What are the reasons for picking this

number?

2. What can you do to move up to the next

number?

3. Why are you #6 instead of a #7?

1. Identify the number lower than the one the client

chose

2. Identify the number higher than the one the client

chose

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Ruler

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Open-ended vs. Close-ended

Open –ended do not have short, simple

answers

Examples of Open Ended questions...

◦ What are your thoughts about going to work?

What are the benefits? What are the negatives?

◦ What supports have helped in the past?

◦ What supports might you need for this job?

◦ Who would you share this information with?

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Affirming Statements

Directly affirming a client can help build rapport

and increase confidence

Notice signs of client’s strengths and efforts and

reflect them back

• “That seems like a good match for your skills

and interests.”

“I appreciate you taking the big step and coming

here”

“You’re clearly a resourceful person to deal with the

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Practice Affirmation

A young man is referred to your employment

program. He just came from juvenile court, his

third time in less than a year. He was arrested

for possession of marijuana. He was hanging out

with a group of other homeless young people

when some college students started hassling

them. He jumped in and a fight ensured. When

the police arrived his bag of weed fell out and

he was arrested.

◦ Identify his strengths

◦ Form Affirmations

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Real Time exercise

Think about the clients you serve.

What challenges do your clients bring?

◦ Lying/not forthcoming

◦ Stealing

◦ Manipulating

What resources do they bring?

◦ Ability to observe how systems work

◦ Ability to perceive opportunities

◦ Determination

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Reflections

Simple Reflections – essentially a repetition or slight rewording of what the client has said

Complex Reflection – moving beyond what the client said through paraphrasing meaning, continuing the paragraph, or otherwise reflecting content or meaning

Summary Reflection – bringing together two or more client statements into a summary, including material not voiced by client immediately before

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Summarizing

To be used sparingly

Collect several points and relay them back to

the client in a summary fashion

Demonstrates attention and moves

conversation forward

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Building Summaries

See handout worksheet

◦ Exercise 4.5

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Eliciting Change Talk

In motivational Interviewing, eliciting change talk is the primary method for developing discrepancy.

Hearing oneself state the reason for change tends to increase awareness of the discrepancy between one’s goals and present actions.

The greater the discrepancy, the greater the perceived importance for change

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Signs of Readiness to Change

Decreased resistance

Decreased discussion of the problem

Resolve

Change Talk

Questions about change

Envisioning

Experimenting

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Change Talk!

Represents movement towards change!

Highly influenced by counseling style!

A primary vehicle for resolving ambivalence and

promoting behavior change!

When you hear change talk, just don’t stand

there! Reflect, Reinforce, Ask for more &

Affirm!

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Change Talk examples

Desire: I want to get a job or go to work

Ability: I could go to work

Reasons: I should get a job because…. or Work

would really help me with money issues

Need: I've got to get a job

Work with these to strengthen

COMMITMENT to Change: “I will get a job”

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Stage Matching Interventions

Pre-contemplation Empathy

Contemplation Explore Ambivalence

Preparation Clarify, Plan & Set Goals

Action Develop Plan B

Maintenance Review, Evaluate & Renew

Derailment Debrief & Regroup

Stage Intervention

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Remember: Assessing Stage of

Change is Specific to an

issue

TIME to PRACTICE

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Testing your knowledge

“You know, I've lost two jobs because of my disability. I have got to find something to help me learn to follow instructions. I've been reading some information on adult ADHD. This is the last job I am going to loose because of ADHD!”

A. Pre-contemplation

B. Contemplation

C. Preparation

D. Action

E. Maintenance

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“I can't believe how much I like my training. I've been attending almost a month and I have not missed days or missed any homework assignments. I'm really getting into this!”

A. Pre-contemplation

B. Contemplation

C. Preparation

D. Action

E. Maintenance

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“This is just like all the rest of the government

agencies! Jumping through your hoops is

not going to make any difference in my life.

I know what I need to do, and I'll do it when

I'm good and ready.”

A. Pre-contemplation

B. Contemplation

C. Preparation

D. Action

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“I guess those are some things I haven't thought about before. I'm not saying I agree with you, or that I am going to work on a resume or do those informational interview things, but I'll think about what you said.”

A. Pre-contemplation

B. Contemplation

C. Preparation

D. Action

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“I just want a job! There is no way I am taking that medication. I know what kind of crap it does to your head. There is nothing that you or the docs can do to help me or fix me.”

A. Pre-contemplation

B. Contemplation

C. Preparation

D. Action

E. Maintenance

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“I just can’t believe it's been a year since I've started college. I guess I have been leading my AA group for over a year, too. I've felt so good and life has been going so well that I haven't seriously even considered drinking for a long time.”

A. Pre-contemplation

B. Contemplation

C. Preparation

D. Action

E. Maintenance

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“Well, I was discharged 10 days ago. I have been taking my meds ever since. I have made it to both of my counseling appointments. I am here today because I really need to work”

A. Pre-contemplation

B. Contemplation

C. Preparation

D. Action

E. Maintenance

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Key Points to Remember

Ask Permission

Talk less than your client

No Fixin’!!!

Active listening

Acceptance

Hope and Possibility

Control and Choice-people are more motivated to

make change when it’s based on their own

decisions and choices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGEEamz7ZM

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So Simple – So Hard

“One reason it is possible to keep on learning

and improving one’s skills in Motivational

Interviewing is that immediate expert feedback

is continuously available. It is available from

those you serve.”

Motivational Interviewing – p. 180

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You’ve only just begun! RESOURCES

The more I think, the more confused I am!

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Resources

Motivational Interviewing (online instruction)

◦ Maryland WorkFORCE Promise www.mdworkforcepromise.org

Motivational Interviewing

◦ Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers www.motivationalinterview.org

Web-based MI training & Practice

◦ www.kphealtheducation.org

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Materials adapted from :

Motivational Interviewing (online instruction) Maryland

WorkFORCE Promise www.mdworkforcepromise.org

Motivational Interviewing- Motivational Interviewing Network

of Trainers www.motivationalinterview.org

Advanced Counseling Techniques- Linda Hedenblad MSE,

CRC

Berg-Smith Training and Consultation, 2008

Miller, W. & Rollnick, S. (2002) Motivational Interviewing:

Preparing People for Change (2cd edition). New York:

Guilford Press.

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Motivational Interviewing

Motivational

Interviewing in

Health Care: Helping

Patients Change

Behavior by William Miller,

Stephen Rollnick, & Christopher

Butler

Motivational

Interviewing in the

Treatment of

Psychological

Problems by William Miller, Stephen

Rollnick, Hal Arkowitz, &

Henny Westra

Motivational

Interviewing, Second

Edition: Preparing

People for Change by

William Miller & Stephen

Rollnick

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Motivational Interviewing

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http://motivationalinterview.net/

http://motivationalinterview.org/

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Identifying your goal

◦ Choose a concept or skill set you are willing, able,

ready and have the resources to implement as soon

as you return to the office.

Prepare a Personal Change Plan including

implementation and evaluation strategies

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Your Personal Change Plan

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Quote from Illusions by Richard Bach

Learning is finding out what you already know

Doing is demonstrating that you know it.

Teaching is reminding others that they know just

as well as you.

You are all learners, doers, and teachers.

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What a Workshop! I know just how you feel

Questions or Concerns

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Remember to complete and turn your evaluation in!

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Happy Trails to YOU!