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    Unconventional Science

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    Dstl 2001

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    Horizon Scanning

    For MOD to maintain its technical excellence and retainits position of superiority a keen awareness of newtechnologies is essential.

    90% of the technology developments are outside theMod funded arena.

    Developments of current technologies are emergingconstantly, and these form a significant part of thedefence superiority retention.

    However, in order to identify disruptive technologies it isprudent to look outside the box, and it is only here thatthe high-risk high-gain developments will be found.

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    Some Examples of Unconventional

    Science Cold Fusion (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions)

    Bio-communication

    Water Memory

    Casmir Force

    Hydrogen Storage in Carbon Nanofibres

    Podkletnovs Gravity Shielding

    Asymmetric Capacitors

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    Cold Fusion (Low Energy Nuclear

    Reactions) Original concept by Fleishman and

    Pons in 1988 entailed fusion of

    deuterium nuclei in a palladium latticeby electrolysis of heavy water

    claimed the heat produced was inexcess of that generated by energy

    input. Ability to harness energy at room

    temperature would have majorimplications.

    US DOE study Work criticised as poor science,

    experimental errors

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    Transmutation Y Iwamura et al

    Iwamura LENR transmutationexperiment in 2002 lessambiguous using XPS.

    Cs transmutated to Pr an

    increase in A.W of 4 protons and4 neutrons following gaseousdeuterium diffusion

    Ref Iwamuraet al 10th IntConf on Cold Fusion

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    Intercellular Communication

    Communication between biologicalsystems is traditionally consideredin terms of chemical signalling,however:-

    J apanese work claiming assistedaid growth of neighbouring cultureunder non growth conditionsattributed to sonic waves

    Russian work claimingsympathetic death of a separatedculture via UV signalling

    Suggest possibility of physicalsignalling

    Ref Distant Intercellular Interactions in a system of twotissue cultures Psychoenergitic Systems 1(3) p141

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    Water Memory Originated from J Beveniste claim

    of persistent activity Billion folddilution of allergen.

    1988 paper submitted to Nature.

    More recent work claimed theability to transfer activity to purewater by EM/RF effects.

    Proposed that Memory of water iselectromagnetic in origin and thatelectromagnetic signals are basisof molecular communication.

    Ref www.digibio.com

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    Casimir Force

    The force was postulated in 1948 by HCasimir when working for Phillips Labs oncolloidal dispersions.

    In essence the field is a result ofsuppression of EM fields within a cavity.

    Perfect vacuum at absolute zero has

    fluctuating field of mean energy of halfenergy of a photon.

    Plates 1cm^2 separated by 1micron

    have Casimir force of 10-7 N

    ie weight of small water droplet

    a

    L2

    L1

    A

    AF =a240

    4

    2

    c

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    Hydrogen Storage in carbon

    nanofibres New Scientist Dec 1996

    Hydrogen-Powered cars could travel up to 8000kilometres on a single tank of gas thanks to a graphite

    storage material developed by researchers at North-

    Eastern University in Boston. US Patent Rodriguez et al.

    Storage of Hydrogen In Layered Nanostructures.

    Claims 50 - 70% hydrogen absorption at room temperature, 40 -120 bar.

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    QinetiQ graphite nanostacks

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    Gravity Shielding

    In 1992 Podkletnov publishedresults of weight loss above asuperconducting disc, which wasmagnetically levitated and rotated

    at several thousand rpm inpresence of magnetic field.

    Showed weight loss of less than0.5% to 2% as spin increased.

    Further paper accepted by JPhysica D in 1996 but withdrawn

    NASA / Ning Li attempted toreplicate between 1996 and 2002

    Ref www.holoscience.com/mws/antigravity

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    Quartz G lassC ylinder,

    Vacuumor gas filled

    C onducting Tubecontaining liquid gas

    (N2 ~ 90K or H2 ~ 40K)to maintain

    superconductivity

    MetalTarget(Anode)

    DischargeC urrent ~ 10

    4A

    Length 0.15 - 0.4m

    Inner Coilused to create

    Type IIMagnetic Vortex

    S tructure

    Outer Coil1 s pulse

    on discharge(0.9 T)

    2 -LayerY BC O E mitter,

    Dia = 80 - 120 mmThick = 7 - 15 mm

    (Cathode)

    High Voltage P ulsefrom Marx GeneratorC harge time = 120s

    Discharge = 2 ms

    Gravity Impulse

    Beam

    DangerZone

    P odkletnov G ravity Impulse Generator

    2 M V

    Several s

    1.5 m

    1 m

    pump

    FaradayCage

    P endulum

    Bobvarious

    materialsmetalglass

    ceramicwoodrubberplastic

    REPULSION

    P endulum

    Bobvarious

    materialsmetalglass

    ceramicwoodrubberplastic

    REPULSION

    UHFAbsorberScreen

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    Boeing's Van de Graaff generator proposed for the

    Podkletnov experiments [15].

    Device could be used as aballistic missile shield.

    Reported in J anes Defenceweekly in J une 2002 thatBOEING Phantom works had a

    project entitled GRASP toreplicate claims.

    No further reports

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    Asymmetric Capacitors

    Originates from the Biefield-Brown effect

    When a high voltage ~30KV is applied to electrodes

    of an asymmetric capacitor a net force is observed Brown was a lab technician and Biefield a Prof at

    Denison Uni Ohio

    Work dates back to 1920s when Brown wasexperimenting with a Coolidge tube.

    Patents issued in 1927, 1957, 1960 by Biefield Brown

    And more recently by NASA in J an 2002 and J une 2002

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    Background

    Basic Lifter Design

    Slightly more complex ...

    Huge !!

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    Why are MOD interested?

    Potentially a disruptive technology

    Possible applications include Propulsion

    Drag Reduction

    Stealth

    A full silent flight and no moving parts (no mobile surfacesreflecting radar waves)

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    Current Dstl project

    MaterialsDimensions

    Wire height

    Foil height

    Length

    (Weight)

    Foil

    Wire

    Dielectric

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    Current Project Aims

    Attempt to fully understand the physics

    Investigate how voltage/current & thrust are effected by:

    Capacitor size/shape

    Scaling effects

    electrostatic field is a function of electrode geometry

    geometry torroidial (doughnut) concentric rings separated by shields to

    prevent ionic cross-over

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    Current Dstl Lifter project

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    Lifter Size

    Length = 200 mm Length = 50 mm

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    Wire height

    Lifter IW3

    d = 30mm

    d = 25mm

    d = 15mm

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    Foil height

    Lifter IW4

    Foil height = 21 mmFoil height = 36 mm

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    Modeling Electrostatic Field

    Using MatLab PDE

    Preliminary results show this could be useful

    Can vary Capacitor geometry as it uses FE

    Also vary input voltage

    However, this is a static solution and as such limited

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    Di l t i C t t

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    Dielectric Constants

    Material Dielectric constant

    Helium 0.2

    Air 1

    Carbon Dioxide 1.8

    Polystyrene 2.6

    Paper 3

    Glass 8

    Water 78

    Nitrogen 1.1

    Barium Titanate 1,000

    Di l t i li i lt

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    Dielectric preliminary results

    Air Stable lift: 0.25mA & 19.2KV

    Nitrogen Stable lift: 0.31mA & 18KV (similar to air)

    Helium No lift at 4.20mA & 12.8KV Steam

    CO2

    R lt V lt

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    Results Voltage

    0

    5

    1 0

    1 5

    2 0

    2 5

    3 0

    3 5

    4 0

    0 1 0 2 0 3 0 4 0 5 0W ir e He ig h t (m m )

    V

    oltage(KV)

    IW 4, f oil he ight=40mm, 2.80g

    IW 4, f oil he ight=36mm, 2.69g

    IW 4, f oil he ight=32mm, 2.56gIW 4, f oil he ight=28mm, 2.45g

    IW 4, f oil he ight=21mm, 2.29g

    IW 8, f oil he ight=38mm, 3.16g

    IW 8, f oil he ight=38mm, 3.66g

    IW 8, f oil he ight=38mm, 4.22g

    IW 8, f oil he ight=38mm, 4.72g

    IW 8, f oil he ight=38mm, 5.16g

    IW 8, f oil he ight=38mm, 5.66g

    IW 8, f oil he ight=38mm, 6.16g

    IW 3, f oil he ight=25mm, 1.35g

    R lt C t

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    Results Current

    0

    0 .2

    0 .4

    0 .6

    0 .8

    1

    1 .2

    0 1 0 2 0 3 0 4 0 5 0

    W ir e H e ig h t (m m )

    Current(mA)

    IW 4, f oil he ight=40mm, 2.80g

    IW 4, f oil he ight=36mm, 2.69g

    IW 4, f oil he igh t=32mm, 2.56g

    IW 4, f oil he igh t=28mm, 2.45g

    IW 4, f oil he igh t=21mm, 2.29g

    IW 8, f oil he igh t=38mm, 3.16g

    IW 8, f oil he igh t=38mm, 3.66g

    IW 8, f oil he igh t=38mm, 4.22g

    IW 8, f oil he igh t=38mm, 4.72g

    IW 8, f oil he igh t=38mm, 5.16g

    IW 8, f oil he ight=38mm, 5.66g

    IW 8, f oil he ight=38mm, 6.16g

    IW 3, f oil he ight=35mm, 1.35g

    Results Power

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    Results Power

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    5

    10

    15

    20

    25

    30

    35

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    0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50

    Wire Height (mm)

    Power(W)

    IW4, foil height=40mm, 2.80g

    IW4, foil height=36mm, 2.69g

    IW4, foil height=32mm, 2.56g

    IW4, foil height=28mm, 2.45g

    IW4, foil height=21mm, 2.29g

    IW8, foil height=38mm, 3.16g

    IW8, foil height=38mm, 3.66g

    IW8, foil height=38mm, 4.22g

    IW8, foil height=38mm, 4.72g

    IW8, foil height=38mm, 5.16g

    IW8, foil height=38mm, 5.66g

    IW8, foil height=38mm, 6.16g

    IW3

    Results Mass v Power

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    Results Mass v Power

    0.0E+00

    1.0E-03

    2.0E-03

    3.0E-03

    4.0E-03

    5.0E-03

    6.0E-03

    7.0E-03

    0 1 0 2 0 3 0 4 0

    Po w er (W )

    Weight(Kg)

    IW4, L=40m m

    IW4, L=35m m

    IW4, L=30m m

    IW4, L=25m m

    IW8, L=44m m

    IW8, L=40m m

    IW8, L=35m m

    IW8, L=30m m

    IW3, L=20m m

    IW3, L=25m m

    IW3, L=30m m

    Mass v wire height foil height and

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    Mass v wire height, foil height and

    currentMass v L *I* fo i l height

    0.00E +00

    1.00E-03

    2.00E-03

    3.00E-03

    4.00E-03

    5.00E-03

    6.00E-03

    7.00E-03

    0 200 400 600 800 1000 1200 1400 1600 1800 2000

    Wire heigh t [ L ] * f o i l he igh t * cu r ren t (mm mm mA)

    Lifterweight(Kg)

    IW 8, L=44

    IW 8, L=40

    IW 8, L=35

    IW 8, L=30

    IW 4, L=40

    IW 4, L=35

    IW 4, L=30IW 4, L=25

    IW 3, L=20

    IW 3, L=25

    IW 3, L=30

    Weight measured on Balance

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    Weight measured on Balance

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    0 5 10 15 20 25

    Vo l t ag e (K V)

    Weight(g) IW 8 + 6 .7 g , M i n w e i g h t

    IW 8 + 6 .7 g , M a x w e i g h t

    IW 8 , M i n w e i g h t

    IW 8 , M a x w e i g h t

    Results Summary

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    Results - Summary

    As capacitor plate spacing increases, V increases butcurrent density decrease therefore power required is less

    variable. Asymmetry of capacitor plates less significant than thecapacitor plate spacing

    The scale effect is not fully characterised as yet , there is anindication that a critical capacitor spacing is necessary.

    Mass is a function of product of current capacitor spacing

    and collector plate height

    Observations

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    Observations

    The greatest force on capacitor is when small electrode ispositive.

    The effect occurs in a dielectric medium (air)The effect is associated with onset of corona discharge

    The force is independent of spatial orientation

    The details of the physics of the effect is not understood

    Observations (2)

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    Observations (2)

    Mechanism generally considered in terms of ionicmotion

    However, has been shown that effect is independent

    of voltage polarity Also calculations suggest that mass lifted by ionic

    thrust is more than an order of magnitude less than

    that observed.

    Also weight loss observed prior to lifting

    Unconventional Science

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    Unconventional Science

    Conclusions Unconventional science is by its very nature difficult to verify

    If you do not understand the underlying science it is difficult to

    know what are the important boundary conditions.

    A large proportion of the claims made may be down to poor science/experimental procedure, a sub conscious willingness, nevertheless ifany are true then the consequences could be far reaching.

    The initial benefit proposed may not be the major benefit

    i.e. cold fusion limitless energy perhaps now radioactive wastedisposal

    Any questions ?

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    Any questions ?

    Experimental Video Clips

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    Experimental Video Clips