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ULTIMATE EUROPEAN CLUB FOOTBALL
Created by Con Hondrogiannis
HISTORY
From 2005 to 2007 through my workplace , I invited 15 colleagues from around the nation to
participate in an e-mail draft where each person would select 6 teams each from any of the
major European Leagues .
Each person’s 6 teams’ tallies including League Results , Championship League Wins and
UEFA/Europa League wins would be added up each week to determine a leaderboard and at
the end of the season ,determine the eventual champion. In at least 2 seasons the competition
was decided in the final week and once year the final league game in one particular league
SOURCE DATA AND QUALIFICATION
European teams and leagues which were selected “qualify” on the basis that at least one of the
teams from any European League made the following “Cup” competitions
UEFA Champions League (CL) (32 teams qualify) and Europa League (EL) (48 teams Qualify)
As well as the teams which make these competitions , data from league results for all other
teams in the respective leagues/countries was also incorporated
In the current year – there are 32 European Leagues / Countries league data which can be used
– so there is a selection of about 460 different teams altogether
All Standings and results are obtained through the flowing site
https://www.flashscore.com/
Example/Screenshot of how the Standings appear on this site
Data is freely available and transferred into text/excel format for sorting and calculation – all
cup competitions are also available through this site and information is publicly available, This
text or excdel format data could easily be transferred to a plug in or system for a simple
calculation
IDEAL NUMBER OF PARTICPANTS AND TEAMS CHOSEN
Can be for 2,4,8 or 16 participants to ensure a reasonably close competitions
Ideal number is 8 people as it would ensure fans would get at least one of their favourite
teams as well as being able to pick top teams elsewhere (pick from the head or heart)
Each person/owner could have 2,4,8,16 or 32 teams each
Snake or Auction Draft are options – can also convert this into a Salary based idea
Live Draft engine is a preference – options could b e drafts via FB messenger, e-mail or social
drafts with actual people!!
LEAGUE RESULTS and “Potential” (POT)
Each team receives 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw/tie – 0 points for a loss in any
game each week. If a team Wins and scores 3 points – it has 100 % result . If a team ties/draws
it’s game – it scores 1 out of 3 possible points (33%)
P= Games Played
F = Goals scored FOR
A = Goals against
GD = Goal difference
PTS = Actual league points
POT = Potential league points
Example
P W D L F A GD Pts POT %
ENG Manchester City 17 16 1 0 52 11 41 49 51 96.08%
Man City has played 17 games so far in EPL. From those 17 games they had the potential to
score a total of 51 points (17 x 3), however they did have one draw so they have scored 49 out
of 51 points available – their performance % is the 49 out of 51 points (96.08%)
ITA AC Milan 16 7 3 6 23 21 2 24 48 50.00%
AC Milan have played 16 games in Serie A and have scored 24 out of 48 Potential Points (50%
league results only )
EURO LEAGUE CUP COMPETITIONS and Bonuses
For every stage of the 2 major cups (Champions League/Europa) – each team receives bonus
points for qualifying for the competition and progressing to the next stages
QUALIFICATIONS BONUS
Champions League (CL)– 5 points bonus for each stage reached
Europa League (EU)– 3 points bonus for each stage reached
CUP STAGE POINTS , POTENTIAL and Overall ratinga
For each stage of both competitions – every team in every league has the potential to earn 3
points per stage which can also be added to their league results to provide an “overall” rating.
Example
League results for Marseille
P W D L F A GD Pts POT %
FRA Marseille 17 10 5 2 35 19 16 35 51 68.63%
Marseille qualifies for Europa League and receives 3 bonus points , it also progresses through
the next stage, therefore it has earned 6 bonus points
There cup stage bonues appear like this
League CL Pts EU Pts TOT POT Pts Pot
Marseille FRA 68.63% 0 2 6 6 6 41 57
6 pts have been added to the League Points and the League Potential ( was 35/51 and now
41/57)
Marseille also participated in the “Group Stage” where they played 6 games against 3 other
teams to reach the next stage
P W D L F A GD PTs Bonus Total OVR
6 2 2 2 4 4 0 8 1.33 42.33 74.27%
Marseille scores 8 Points from a potential 18 (6 games x 3 pts) which is a performance of 44.4%.
They receive another small bonus if they score points in this stage – which is a potential 3
points. Marseille received 44% of 3 points (1.33) which is added to their League and Cup
Points.
Marseille were 41 out of 57 points after cup stage bonus – 1.33 is added to the Points so the
result means 42.33 out of 57 points – giving them a rating of 74.27%. So on league results
alone their performance was 68.63% , with cup stage bonuses this gives them an overall euro
rating of 74.27%
If they make the next stage their rating increases, if they lose they do not earn any more
bonuses
2nd Scenario – TEAMS WHO HAVE NOT MADE EITHER CL OR EU
If a team does NOT qualify for either Champions League or Europa – this stage bonus REDUCES
their overall rating and is taken off their league results
P W D L F A GD Pts POT %
NED PSV 16 13 1 2 44 20 24 40 48 83.33%
PSV are on top of their league (Netherlands) at the moment and have scored 40/48 points.
However, as they have not qualified for either Champions League or Europa League , they will
not get cup bonuses
CL Pts EU Pts TOT POT Pts Pot
0 0 0 6 40 54
So now PSV have 40 League points and no bonus , the 48 point “potential” has increased to 54
(was 48) Points (3 points per stage of comp) so their overall rating is now 40 out of 54 Points ,
giving them an OVERALL rating of 74.07%
League % 83.33 and Overall 74.07%
Note : a team which is very strong in it’s own league still can be great value as long as they continue to
dominate their league and win league games , the bonuses they lose in overall rating can be quickly
regained by winning league game
Champions League teams bonuses and Europa League
Teams which qualify for Champions League receive 5 points for making the group stage. This is more
than Europa league (3 points) as Champions League is made up of actual league champions and teams
who have finished high enough in their leagues to qualify automatically – general teams in stronger
leagues (England, Spain,Italy Germany) also automatically qualify for Europa however those teams
have finished 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th in the stronger leagues
For a team In Champions League – 32 teams which received the initial 5 points bonus for making the
final 32 play in 6 games to determine who makes the final 16. The top 2 teams in each group go through
to the next stage and the 3rd place team then is sent to Europa League
Europa league Group stage is 12 groups of 4 teams (48 teams) the top 2 go through (24 teams) to the
Next stage and the 8 3rd place teams from Champions league then come into the final 32 for Europa
League
A team which received 5 points for Champions League will also receive 3 points for each stage of Europa
league it reaches
EXAMPLE 1
League CL Pts EU Pts TOT POT Pts Pot
Manchester City ENG 96.08% 2 10 0 10 6 59 57
Man City qualified for Champions League and moved to the next stage – therefore 2 stages = 10 points
For BOTH Champs/Europa stages the POTENTIAL is 6 points ( 2 Stages – 3 points) – so therefore Man
City has scored 10 out of 6 points which is better than 100 % -
In the group stage before reaching the round of 16 , Man City played 6 games and scored 15/18
potential points which is a performance of 83.33% . As the next stage bonus is 5 points – they receive a
bonus of 4.17 (83% of 5 Points) - the 4.17 is added to the 59 Pts (League + cup) and divided by the
Potential (57) – giving Man City an Overall rating of 63.17/57 = 110.82%
Of course if man City gets knocked out at next stage , their overall rating will reduce as the potential
points increase. And they receive no bonuses – they can recover these points back with league wins
after this . After Round of 16 – only teams which win games receive the 5 points bonus
EXAMPLE 2
Atletico Madrid made the final 32 of Champions League but finished 3rd after the group stage –
they still get the 5 points for qualifying for champs league and also 3 points for Europa league
League CL Pts EU Pts TOT POT Pts Pot
P W D L F A GD PTs POT
6 5 0 1 14 5 9 15 18
Atlético Madrid SPA 73.33% 1 5 1 3 8 6 41 51
At this stage Atletico have 8 points from a potential of 6 (2 Cup stages x 3pts)
From their 6 games in the group stages of Champs League they scored 7/18 pts and still
received 1.94 Points from a possible 5 points – so at this stage they have 42.94 (41 plus the
group stage bonus of 1.94) out of 51 pts – their current overall rating is 84.20%
• Note every stage of both CL and EU 3 points is ADDED to the Potential – teams who
are knocked out will reduce by 3 points for each subsequent stage of each comp
The team which wins CL can potentially earn 25 Bonus points as well as the group stage whilst
EL winner will earn 18 points as a bonus as well as their group stage bonus
Repeating that any team in any league which has not made either CL or EU reduces in value
with each stage of CL or EU as the potential is increased by 3 points at each stage , it is likely if a
team continues to perform well in it’s own league – their overall potential will still be
reasonable
OTHER BONUSES AND PENALTIES
Each team which WINS it’s own league will receive another bonus of 3 points (1 win)
Any team which is relegated will receive NEGATIVE 3 points
COMPETITION EXAMPLE
In this example – All Euro Teams were sorted by OVR rating
8 “owners” received 10 teams each (total of 80 out of the 460 teams from 32 leagues) – snake
draft from 1 to 8 and then 8 to 1 until each owner had 10 teams each - the top 80 teams on
current ratings were selected – this will not always be the case however for test purposes this
is for an example only
Here are 2 out of the 8 owners teams
Andy FC
Manchester City Andrew Andy FC ENG
Celtic Andrew Andy FC SCO
Chelsea Andrew Andy FC ENG
Liverpool Andrew Andy FC ENG
AEK Athens Andrew Andy FC GRE
Skënderbeu Korçë Andrew Andy FC ALB
APOEL Andrew Andy FC CYPR
Shakhtyor Andrew Andy FC BELA
Rosenborg Andrew Andy FC NOR
Zira Andrew Andy FC AZE
Forza Italia
Juventus Vincenzo Forza Italia ITA
AS Roma Vincenzo Forza Italia ITA
Beşiktaş Vincenzo Forza Italia TUR
Lokomotiv Moskva Vincenzo Forza Italia RUS
H. Beer Sheva Vincenzo Forza Italia ISR
Dinamo Zagreb Vincenzo Forza Italia CRO
Sturm Graz Vincenzo Forza Italia AUS
Midtjylland Vincenzo Forza Italia DEN
Malmö FF Vincenzo Forza Italia SWE
Anderlecht Vincenzo Forza Italia BELG
So you can see there is plenty of variety when it comes to leagues and teams – if there is
generally to 16 participants – people can pick with their heart if they are fans of a particular
team , residents of a country, or like teams from other leagues (Note Vincenzo has 2 Italian
teams and Andy has 2 English Teams)
Totals – League Results Only for all owners with 10 teams each
team Name P W D L F A GD Pts POT League
Andy FC 183 120 40 23 365 135 230 400 549 72.86%
Los Catalans 166 110 38 18 343 141 202 368 498 73.90%
Hellas Greece 174 124 28 22 428 149 279 400 522 76.63%
Dannys Devils 178 123 32 23 376 142 234 401 534 75.09%
Fast Eddie 172 126 30 16 369 116 253 408 516 79.07% Bundesliga Rulers
202 135 41 26 366 142 224 446 606 73.60%
Fusbal 4eva 181 113 40 28 352 148 204 379 543 69.80%
Forza Italia 184 124 36 24 372 172 200 408 552 73.91%
• Note owners have picked teams in CL and EU – so this is only on their League results
OVERALL Ratings
Including cup stage bonuses and group stage bonus pts for wins/draws – here is the overall
ratings
Rating
Forza Italia 77.80%
Fast Eddie 77.68%
Bundesliga Rulers
77.68%
Fusbal 4eva 77.68%
Dannys Devils 77.53%
Hellas Greece 77.28%
Los Catalans 77.16%
Andy FC 77.08%
- Note how close these results are! Less than a percentage point between Team 1 and 8 –
remembering this changes from week to week and with every stage of CL and EU.
- Someone like “Andy” and “Los Catalans” who have Man City and Barcelona which should
progress further in CL will improve – this one is not over!
CL and EU Bonuses earned by owners
CL Pts EU Pts TOT
Andy FC 8 40 5 15 55
Los Catalans 6 30 6 18 48
Hellas Greece 6 30 6 18 48
Dannys Devils 6 30 6 18 48
Fast Eddie 5 25 7 21 46
Bundesliga Rulers
5 25 7 21 46
Fusbal 4eva 5 25 5 15 40
Forza Italia 5 25 5 15 40
Group Stage Results – for team owners who have teams in CL and EU leagues
P W D L F A GD PTs
POT Cup Perf
Bonus Total OVR
Fusbal 4eva 36 17 7 12 64 46 18 58 108 53.70% 24 12.89 70.89 65.64%
Forza Italia 36 17 7 12 64 46 18 58 108 53.70% 24 12.89 70.89 65.64%
Fast Eddie 42 19 9 14 75 57 18 66 126 52.38% 27 14.14 80.14 63.61%
Bundesliga Rulers
42 19 9 14 72 55 17 66 126
52.38% 27 14.14 80.14 63.61%
Hellas Greece 42 18 11 13 81 54 27 65 126 51.59% 29 14.96 79.96 63.46%
Los Catalans 42 17 13 12 65 51 14 64 126 50.79% 29 14.73 78.73 62.48%
Dannys Devils 42 18 10 14 73 56 17 64 126 50.79% 29 14.73 78.73 62.48%
Andy FC 48 15 16 17 75 76 -1 61 144 42.36% 34 14.40 75.40 52.36%
LEAGUE OWNER CUP or League Competition weekly head to head match-ups
Owner matches are possible only early in the season (August, September and November) as
some of the leagues finish mid November (Belarus, Norway and Sweden)
Weekly matchups between owners or a “Cup” Competition between the 2,4,8 or 16 owners
Rules – If each of the owner’s 10 teams play 1 league game each in a particular week they get
a “weekly total” – this would be matched up against another owner’s 8 teams - depending on
the number of participants this could be done in weekly matchups or in a knockout / cup
format – this would be based on LEAGUE results only and not CL/EU points
These matchups can only occur if BOTH owners have the same amount of games played –
ideally if owner 8 has 10 teams who play 1 game each in a week and Owner B has the same –
the totals could be matched up for a result – standings could be generated or a “Cup” knockout
between owners could occur
ULTIMATE ENGLISH CLUB FOOTBALL
Created by Con Hondrogiannis
BASIC RULES
4.8 or 16 people would pick from a selection of 4,8 or 16 teams from Premier League,
Championship, League 1 and League 2
4 participants – can have up to 4 teams per league (16 teams)
8 Participants- can have 2 teams each
16 – 1 team per league
Reason for picking 16 teams out of the 20 in EPL and 24 teams in other 3 leagues being that
this allows a chance for any of the teams to gain promotion or be relegated – 4 teams will not
be selected from EPL and 8 teams each from the other leagues
LEAGUE RESULTS
3 Points for a win 1 point for a draw and performance rating
W D L F A GD Pts Pot Perf
Man Utd PREM 14 10 2 2 32 8 24 32 42 76.19%
Man U have played 14 games for a potential score of 42 points (3 points per game). They have
scored 32 out of the possible 42 – their league performance is therefore 76.19%
EFL and FA Cup Points
There are 2 major cup comps in English Football – the English League Cup and FA Cup in which
all teams from all leagues participate in.
Teams which win a Cup Tie/game will receive a bonus 1 point per win, and then if they reach a
Quarter Final, Semi or Cup Final – 3 points per win – these bonus points are added
Example
Bristol City CHAMP 19 9 7 3 30 20 10 34 57 59.65%
Bristol City (Championship league) - their league results so far 34 out of a possible 57 points
from 19 games played
EFL Cup Pts
FA Cup Pts
Cup Pts CUP+League OVR
4 4 38 66.67%
Bristol City have won 4 EFL cup games in the qualifying rounds so far. They gain 4 points added
onto their league points , so that increases their points to 38/57 points , their overall
performance is 66.67 %.
Bristol City have made the Quarter Final Stage so they will earn another 3 points at the
completion of the QF game and should they win, gain another 3 points after that – therefore
their Cup + League Points will rise to 41/57 points and their overall will increase to 71%
PROMOTION AND RELEGATION
At the end of the season – the EPL Champions will receive a bonus 3 points for winning EPL.
The teams which get promoted from Championship, League 1 and 2 will get 3 points each if
they get promoted to the next tier – the bonus 3 points are added to their points and this will
increase their overall %
Any team which is RELEGATED – will be penalized 3 points for being relegated – this would
reduce the overall performance
COMPETITION EXAMPLE
In this scenario based on current ratings , 8 owners have 2 teams each from EPL, CH, LG1 and
LG2) – therefore 16 teams are taken from the 4 leagues in a snake draft 1 to 8 and 8 to 1
Owner “A” and “B” have the following teams
Man City PREM A
Arsenal PREM A
Sheff Utd CHAMP A
Middlesbrough CHAMP A
Portsmouth LG1 A
Colchester LG2 A
MK Dons LG1 A
Cheltenham LG2 A Wolves CHAMP B
Aston Villa CHAMP B
Bradford LG1 B
Newport LG2 B
Watford PREM B
Grimsby LG2 B
Doncaster LG1 B
Southampton PREM B
There are 6 other owners with 8 teams each and all of the league results are added together
P W D L F A GD Pts Pot Perf
A 144 69 27 48 221 168 53 234 432 54.17%
B 145 67 33 45 206 169 37 234 435 53.79%
C 144 65 36 43 195 150 45 231 432 53.47%
D 143 62 35 46 212 192 20 221 429 51.52%
E 144 63 29 52 209 192 17 218 432 50.46%
F 144 62 43 39 189 144 45 229 432 53.01%
G 142 59 46 37 196 164 32 223 426 52.35%
H 145 62 36 47 227 178 49 222 435 51.03%
As you can see from the League Results only – this is extremely close as most owners have a
team in the top 8 in a league and also teams positioned 9th to 16th
CUP POINTS
EFL and FA Cup Bonus Points for wins in cup games for each owner
Cup Points E 16
F 16
G 16
H 16
D 14
C 12
B 11
A 10
Overall (league + Cup) E 61.81%
D 61.54%
C 60.88%
G 60.80%
F 59.95%
H 59.31%
B 57.93%
A 56.48%
Overall rating is League Points plus Cup points divided by Potential League Points – generally if
a team has scored a cup win , a QF, SF or Final win they gain bonuses and their overall rating
will increase – the current season is till in progress and therefore this will chance week to week
and of course if teams have a league champion, promoted team or a relegated team this will
affect the end result
Owner League or Cup Comp Option
A head to head option is available through the league season as all leagues run from August
until May – EPL teams play 38 games and other leagues 46 games each.
If an owner’s all 8 teams play 1 league game each – the results would be added together to give
a weekly total – this would be matched up against another owner to determine a win, loss or
draw against the other owner
A fair matchup can only occur if both owners have had exactly the same amount of games
played in one week – Owner A must have 8 games played and Owner B 8 Games
A schedule and standings can be generated – an Owner Cup Comp could also take place under
the same scenario – as long as all teams owned by each person play 1 league game each