UFOs:HowDoesOneSpeaktoABallofLight?

byPaolaLeopizziHarrisPrefacebyDr.MichaelSalla,Ph.D.

ForewordbyPascalRiolo

TextandphotographsCopyright©2006and2011PaolaLeopizziHarris.AllRightsReserved."The'BallofLight'PhenomenainItaly"Copyright©2005AdrianoForgione,X-Publishing,Italy.UsedbyPermission.AllRightsReserved.Noportionofthisbookmaybereproducedofusedinanyformorbyanymeans,electronicormechanical,includingphotocopying,recordingorbyanyinformationstorageandretrievalsystem,withoutpriorwrittenpermissionoftheauthor.Coverartandconcept:AlbertoForgioneX-timesMagazine:FenixPublishingManuscriptEditors:BrentSmith,LucieBlanchardCoverDesign:CarolynOakley,LuminousMoonDesignKindleEdition

ThisbookisdedicatedtoallthosewhoareworkingtowardsfullDisclosure:

Alberto,Paolo,andAdrianoForgioneandallthoseinFenixPublishing;UFOresearcherandEditorofArea51MagazineMaurizioBaiata;translatorsandtranscribersLaviniaPallotta,TeresaBarbatelliand

DawnBissell.

Toallthosewhosevisionanddedicationhasnobounds:HelenLittrell;mywebmastersGiovanniZavarelli(Italy),AlejandroRojas,C.TravisToweandCarolynOaklyintheUSA.

Andfinally,toallinthisbookwhochosetorevealthetruthabouttheextraterrestrialpresenceonEarth.

Youarethecourageousones.

TableofContents1.Preface:ProtocolsforFutureContact2.Foreword:LiaisonBetweenOff-planetCulturesandOurGovernments3.Introduction:BacktotheFuture4.BacktotheFuture:AnUpdateSectionOne:BacktothePast5.TheManWhoStartedItAll:InterviewwithKimArnold,DaughterofKennethArnold6.AVictoryforUFODisclosure:InterviewwithCliffordStone7.TheHistoricStephenvilleUFOSightings:InterviewwithPrimaryWitnessSteveAllenSectionTwo:UnconventionalWisdomfromUnconventionalPeople8.InterviewwiththeHonorablePaulHellyer9.TheDeathoftheFourthEstate:InterviewwithDr.StevenGreer10.TheBentwatersUFOCase:TestimonyofStevenRobertLaPlume11.TheHynekMethodofResearch:Laugh,Laugh,Study,Study12.Dr.Hynek’sInquiryintotheBentwatersCase13.InterviewwithBetsyMcDonald,WifeofDr.JamesMcDonald14.InterviewwithColonelPhilipCorso15.ThePerspectiveofMonsignorCorradoBalducci,VaticanRepresentative16.PlanetaryChallengesinaTimeofChangeSectionThree:ChallengesandProtocolsforFutureContact–TheRoleofGalacticDiplomacy17.TheNewPhysics–TimeTravel18.ThePhiladelphiaExperimentandTimeTravel:InterviewwithAlBielek19.ProtocolOne:TheNeedtoStudyExopolitics20.ProtocolTwo:OurStufforTheirStuff?ThatistheQuestion.21.ProtocolThree:VisitorsFromtheFutureandDimensional22.ProtocolFour:VirusesandBiologicalContamination23.ProtocolFive:CommunicationwithAlienRaces24.ProtocolSix:Record,CollectandDeciphertheCosmicMessages25.ProtocolSeven:InternationalCooperationandResearchCriteria26.ProtocolEight:Orbs,SpheresandIntra-dimensionalBeings27.ProtocolNine:GalacticDiplomacyandCSETIProtocols28.PossibleSolutions29.Epilogue:So,HowDoWeSpeaktoaBallofLight?30.Appendix:TheHawaiiDeclaration31.RecommendedReading32.AbouttheAuthor

Preface:ProtocolsforFutureContactExopoliticsisarevolutionarynewapproachtoevidenceconcerninganextraterrestrialpresencethatis

keptsecretbyashadowygroupofcovertquasi-governmentalorganizationsintheUnitedStatesandothermajorcountries.ExopoliticsdiffersfrommoretraditionalapproachesinUfology,whichfocusonfindingsufficientempiricalevidencetoindubitablyprovetheUFOphenomenontobereal.Incontrast,Exopoliticsfocusesontheimplicationsoftheavailableevidenceconfirmingthepresenceofextraterrestrialvisitorstoourplanet.Exopoliticsfocusesonkeypolicyquestionssuchas:Areextraterrestrialsfriendsorfoes?Shouldspaceweaponsbetargetedtowardsextraterrestrialvisitors?Whatdiplomaticprotocolsshouldbeusedforestablishingcontactwithextraterrestrials?Finally,Exopoliticsfocusesonidentifyingthekeypoliticalplayers,institutionsandprocessesinfluencingtheavailableevidenceofvisitationbyextraterrestrialcivilizations.

Theexopoliticalchallengenecessitatesgoingbeyondthesimplisticdemandforindubitableempiricalevidence,andrequiresanalysisbothofhowevidenceiscollectedandanalyzedanditsimplications.Thistypicallyleadstotherealizationthatevidenceissystematicallydistorted,removedorfabricatedbyshadowyquasi-governmentalorganizationsintentonmaintainingthe“CosmicWatergate.”Exopolitics,therefore,requiresanopenmindandsystematicattemptstoinvestigatethebestavailableevidencethatextraterrestrialsarevisitingourplanet,thatquasi-governmentorganizationsarekeepingthissecret,andthattheavailableevidencehasimportantimplicationsforalllifeonthisplanet.ThisbookbyPaolaHarris,aveteranUFOinvestigativejournalist,bothdefinestheexopoliticalchallengesbeforeus,andoutlinessomestrategiesformeetingthesechallenges.

PaolabeganherUFOresearchundertheexpertguidanceofDr.AllenHynek,whobeganadvisingherinthe1970sontheimportanceofthoroughlyinvestigatingUFOevidence.WorkingunderDr.Hynek,PaolabeganpersonallyinvestigatingkeyUFOcasesbytravelingtointerviewwitnessesandseeatfirsthandanyavailableevidence.ShehassincecompiledanimpressivedatabaseofwitnessesandevidenceconfirmingtherealityoftheUFOphenomenonandofahigh-levelcover-upupbyquasi-governmentalorganizations.Herresearchconfirmsthattheseshadowyorganizations,intheUnitedStates,usetheirauthorityandexecutiveorderspassedbyanumberofpresidentsinordertoco-opttheresourcesandpersonnelofvariousgovernmental,militaryandcorporateentities.

Inherfirstbook,ConnectingtheDots(WildFlowerPress,2005),PaolaprovidedanimpressivecompilationofinterviewswithwhistleblowersandveteranUFOresearchers,detailinghowtheUFOcover-upisorganizedandhowsuppressionoftheevidenceoccurs.HerbookhelpedopenupsomeofthekeychallengesconfrontingtheemergingfieldofExopolitics.Inthisbook,Paolaexplicitlyaddressesanumberofexopoliticalchallenges.Asherbooktitlesuggests,theseincludeestablishingreliableformsofcommunicationwithadvancednon-terrestriallifeforms,establishingprotocolsforextraterrestrialcontactandfinally,understandingthecovertquasi-governmentalcover-up.

Paola’sisthelatestinaseriesofpublishedbooksthatexplicitlyexamineExopoliticsandhelpdefineExopoliticsasanewfieldofscholarlystudy.Myownbook,Exopolitics:PoliticalImplicationsoftheExtraterrestrialPresence(DandelionBooks,2004),describestheevolutionoftheglobalmanagementsystemforextraterrestrialaffairs,outlineshowExopoliticsimpactsuponconventionalinternationalpoliticsandgivesanexopoliticalanalysisoftheIraqwar.ThiswasfollowedbyAlfredWebre’sExopolitics:Politics,Government,andLawintheUniverse(FilamentBooks,2005)thatexamineshowquarantinehasbeenimposedupontheEarthduetohistoricallyviolenthumanpolicies,andwhatthissuggestsaboutpoliticalprocessesexistingin“universesociety.”

Intheessaysofhernewbook,PaolaoutlinestheemergingfieldofExopoliticsandhowitdiffersfrommoretraditionalUFOapproaches.Sheadvocatestheneedtobreakfreeofthemyopicfocusonfindingindubitableempiricalevidenceanddocumentationand,instead,beginexaminingtheimplicationsofthe

availableevidence,putforwardbyanumberofcrediblewitnessesandwhistleblowers,thatextraterrestrialvisitationisveryreal.PaolacorrectlyidentifiesthattraditionalUFOapproachesareoftenathinly-veiledformofdebunkingthatsystematicallycastsasidevaluabletestimoniesfromwhistleblowersandwitnessescourageouslyrevealingthetruthaboutextraterrestrialvisitation.Havingworkeddirectlywithkeywhistleblowers,suchasthelateLt.Col.PhilipCorso,sheknew,alltoowell,thedifficultyofsubstantiatingthetestimoniesofthoserevealingthedeepsecretshiddenbyquasi-governmentalorganizationsbehindtheCosmicWatergate.HerEssayssectioncorrectlylaysouttheneedtostudytheimplicationsofwhistle-blowertestimonies,andthefollyinthinly-veileddebunkingeffortsthatwilldoomtraditionalUfologytoirrelevancyasthepopulationawakenstothetruthoftheextraterrestrialpresence.

InthesubsequentUnconventionalWisdomfromUnconventionalPeoplesectionofherbook,sheinterviewssomeofthekeypeoplecontributingtotheexopoliticalawakening.MostsignificantaretherevelationsfromDr.StevenGreer,formerastronautDr.EdgarMitchell,theHonorablePaulHellyerandAmbassadorJohnMcDonnell,whoallprovideuniqueperspectivesintotheexopoliticalchallengesbeforeus.Dr.Greerdiscusseshowquasi-governmentalorganizationshaveusurpedconstitutionalprinciplesinmaintainingtheCosmicWatergate.Dr.Mitchellrevealshisownexperiences,basedonconversationswithreliable‘insiders’thatextraterrestrialsarevisitingEarthandgovernmentsuppressionofthisinformationisveryreal.AformerCanadianDefenceMinister,PaulHellyer,discussesthepolicyissuesraisedbyUSeffortstoputweaponryintospaceandthepossibletargetingofextraterrestrialvisitors.FormerUSAmbassador,JohnMcDonnell,discusseshisowncurrentworkwithcitizendiplomacyandhowthevisitationofextraterrestrialcivilizationswillimpactonthis.

ThenextsectionofPaola’sbookcontainsanumberofinterviewsofindividualswhopointoutthemainexopoliticalchallengebeforeusintermsofdevelopingtherightprotocolsforextraterrestrialcontact.TheCharlesHallinterviewdescribestheneedfordevelopingtherightprotocolsforinteractingwithextraterrestrialvisitors.Hallwarnsthatmisunderstandingtheseprotocolscanhaveharmfulconsequences,ashedirectlyexperiencedhimself.Thissubstantiatestheneedtocarefullyassessthedevelopmentanduseofadvancedweaponrythatmightbeusedagainstextraterrestrialvisitors.Anotherinterviewinvolves(Dr.)DanBurisch,whodescribesthecompartmentalizedsecurityprocessesusedformanaginghumanresponsetoextraterrestrialcontactsandforrestrictingthisinformation.TheinterviewwithPhilipCorsooutlinesthechallengesforestablishinganewworld,basedonhuman-extraterrestrialcontact.

Paolafinallyexamines,inherlastsectionofthebook,someoftheprotocolsthatmightbeusedforestablishingcontactwithextraterrestrialcivilizations.TheseprotocolscorrectlypointtooneofthecentralchallengesofExopolitics:howdowecommunicateandactwhenincontactwithadvanced,non-terrestriallifeforms?Eachsetofprotocolspointtoasetofproceduresthateitherhavebeenused,orcanbeusedwhenextraterrestrialcontactoccurs,inordertominimizeundesirableactionsandmisunderstandings.SomeprotocolsforencouragingpeacefulextraterrestrialcontactwereagreeduponattheExtraterrestrialCivilizationsandWorldPeaceConferenceinHawaiiinJune,2006.TheHawaiiDeclarationonPeacefulRelationswithExtraterrestrialCivilizationswasadoptedbyconsensusattheconference,whichcomprisedseventeenspeakersandatotalaudienceofalmost150.SpeakersincludedtheHonorablePaulHellyer,AmbassadorJohnMcDonnell,Paola,AlfredWebre,PhilipCorso,Jr.andI.TheDeclarationoutlinessevenkeyprinciplesforpromotingpeacefulrelationswithextraterrestrialcivilizations.Itthereforerepresentsanimportantcitizendiplomacyinitiativeforestablishingtheprotocolsforcontactwithextraterrestrialcivilizations.TheDeclarationisavailableintheAppendix.

Paola’sbookisavaluabletoolforallthoseseekingtounderstandhowtoestablishformalprotocolsforcommunicatingandcontactingextraterrestrialcivilizations.HerbookmakesasignificantcontributiontothefieldofExopoliticsbycorrectlyidentifyingtheimplicationsofthetestimonyprovidedbyanumber

ofcrediblewitnessesandwhistleblowersconcerningtheextraterrestrialpresence.Exopoliticsisanemergingfieldthatpromisestoawakenmanytotheimplicationsofanextraterrestrialpresencethathasyettobeofficiallyacknowledgedtothegeneralpublic,electedpoliticalofficialsorthemassmedia.PaolaHarris’bookmakesagreatcontributiontoawakeningmanytotheimplicationsoftheextraterrestrialpresence.Istronglyrecommenditasavaluabletoolforbothestablishedresearchersandthosejustbeginningtheirjourneyinunderstandingtheexopoliticalchallengesconfrontinghumanity.--MichaelE.Salla,MA.,Ph.D.PresidentandFounderExopoliticsInstitute17November2006

Foreword:LiaisonBetweenOff-planetCulturesandOurGovernmentsItallstartedinOctober2001,whenIwenttoStMarinotogiveatalkonmyabilitiestoforeseecertain

futureevents.Ihadbeentoldthatanimportantjournalist,specializedintheparanormal,wantedtomeetme.IhadalreadyheardofPaolaHarrisasaninternationalinvestigativejournalistintheUfologicalfieldand,naturally,Iwasimpatienttomeether.Aftermytalk,PaolaHarriscameuptomeandverypolitelyaskedmeforaninterview.IcouldneverhaverefusedherasIwassocurioustofindoutmoreabouther.Indeed,Iwasnotmistakenasshewasquitesimplyincredible.Inthatmomentastrong,wonderfulfriendshipwasbornwhichhasenabledustoremainintouchdespiteouroverburdenedschedulesandthedistancebetweenus.

SpeakingaboutPaolaHarrisisnoteasy,sinceitwouldtakeawholebooktosummarizeherlifeandwork.RarelyhaveIseenanyonesopassionateabouthervariousexplorations,whichtakehertothefourcornersoftheEarth.Thispassionofherstoseekthetruthhasledhertomakeexceptionaldiscoveriesandtomeet“inaccessible”people,bothintheUnitedStatesandinEurope.Herencountersareoftenquiteextraordinary:EdgarMitchell(Apollo14),JohnMack,UriGellerandColonelCorso,tonamebutafew.Justbyreadingherfirstbook,ConnectingtheDots,youcometorealizethekindofworkshehasachievedoverthepastyears,alwayswiththehigheststandardofprofessionalism.PaolahastraveledagreatdealandIcanassureyouthatshehasspentahugepartofherlifeinhotels,planesandconferences,sothatsheisalwaysattherightplace,attherighttimetogatherkeyinformationforherarticles.

Itisthesameprofessionalismwhichcaptivatestheattentionofherpublicatthesevariousconferencesallovertheworld.Paolahasmanagedtocometoprominenceinherfield,givinghercredibilityinanareawhichisnotalwaysfavorablylookeduponintoday’ssociety.Despitehersuccessthroughthesevariousdiversepassagestotelevision,booksandarticleswhichhavebeenpublishedinmajorspecialistmagazines,shehasalwayskeptherfeetontheground.Thisisquiteanastonishingjourneyforawomanwhohasremainedtruetoherselfinaworldwhichisnotnecessarilyveryeasy.TheworldofUfology,ofthesearchforextraterrestrialintelligence,isprobablyoneofthemostdifficultareasofresearchinexistencetoday.Why?

Theanswerissimple!Everyquestionmarkhidesatruth.Ifthis“truth”appearstobeconcealed,itisbecauseithasaroleandasenseinoursystemoflife.Alltheobservationswecancarryoutregardingunexplainedphenomenaalwaysgiveusaninklingthathiddenthingsseemtomoveusfurtherawayfromlife’sauthenticity,whetherthroughlackofinformationorforfearofhavingtorewritethehistoryoftheworld.

WhatisinterestingaboutPaolaHarrisisthat,listeningtoher,weveryquicklyrealizethatwedonotknoweverythingabouttheextraterrestrialreality.Evenifsomeofusremainskepticalaboutcurrentknowledgeofthesubject,itcannotbedeniedthatcertainpointsleaveusunquestionablyastounded!Advancesinourknowledgeinthefutureareboundtoenableustounderstandmanythingswhichatpresentremainunresolved.Iwishthereaderofthisbookmuchpleasureinenteringintothissubjectwhichis,sotospeak,“disturbingandunsettling.”

“ReasonmakesnosenseuntiltheDreamreturnstoreality.”––PascalRioloClairvoyant,Writer,InternationalSpeakerLiège,Belgium,12November2006at11.11a.m.

Pictured:PascalRiolo,UriGellerandPaolaHarris,Ireland.

Introduction:BackTotheFutureTakingUfologyOutoftheDarkAges:TheEmergenceofExopoliticsandtheNeedforOurSpeciestoDevelopaPhilosophyforEventualContact

Forsometimenow,Ihavecometorealizethatwe,researchers,mayhaveremainedstaticwhilethescenarioaroundusischanging.WearestillcategorizingUFOsightings,whicharenowtoonumeroustomention,analyzingphysicaltracescasesthathavesimilarproperties,andinterviewingwitnesses;draggingthembeforethemedia.OneonlyneedstosubscribetoGeorgeFiler’sFilestoseethat,withthemoderndigitalcameras,wearerecordingmorethanenoughevidenceofanomalousobjectsintheskiesaroundtheworldtoreachaverdictinanycourtoflaw.Wearestilldoingthejob.Wearestilldoingthesamething,althougheverythingaroundusischanging.

Allthisnowpresentsuswithanethicalchallengenottoattributetoextraterrestrialswhatisterrestrial.Thisalsopresentsuswithathreatbecause,ifweshouldeverbeattacked,wewouldnotbeabletodistinguishwhoseisthemachinery,sinceitisvirtuallyindistinguishabletoday.Weneedtobeonourguard,notonlyfordisinformationbutalsofor“misidentification!”Theentirescenarioisbecomingmoreapparent.Butyetwedonothavealltheanswers

Anotherelementthathasshiftedistheentireabductionscenario.Beforehisdeath,Dr.JohnMack,inhislastlecturein2003inFlorence,Italy,saidthatthereseemstobealotfewerabductionsbysmallGreybeings.Thereisevidencethatthealienagendahaschangedandimages,messagesandinformationarebeingdirectlydownloadedtopeople.Itappearsthat“whateverisoutthere”isgoingdirectlytothepeople.Peoplearecomingforthwithprophecies,predictionsandsometimeswithnewscientificinformationandmathematicalformulas.Earthlyscienceseemstobedevelopinginquantumleapstojoinwithmetaphysicalprinciplesand,generally,weseemtobeamalgamatingtheinformationofcenturiestotrytounderstandwhoweareandfromwhencewecame.Thisalsosignifiesamajorshift,whichhecalled“anewworldview.”

Pictured:“Imagination’sWindow.”ArtbyArialAli.Theprogressionofthisentirestudy,orwhatweresearchersclaimisastudyofUfologyisundergoing

atransformationwhichincludestheemergenceofmanynew,youngtheorists,manyprofessionally-orientedresearchersandsomepoliticalactivists.Someofthesenewfacesinclude:GrantCameron(ResearcheronthePresidentialInvolvement),RichardDolan(authorofUFOsandtheNationalSecurityState),Dr.MichaelSalla(authorofExopolitics),StevenBassett(X-Conferenceorganizer,political

activistandlobbyist)andRyanandBobWood(whosponsoredtheCrashRetrievalConferenceandwhoreleasetheMajesticDocuments,majesticdocuments.com).Thisimpetushasextendedtocollegeanduniversitycourses,whichlegitimizethisresearchandarecreatingofit,anewsocialscience.

AlthoughIhavebeenforthemostparta“fieldresearcher,”itisthisacademicelementthatnowinterestsmemost.Thereisaneedtobuildaphilosophyaroundcontact,visitationandgalacticinterferenceinouraffairs.LivinginItalyforsomethirteenyearsnowandbeinginfectedbytheRenaissancephilosophicalshiftandRenaissancethinking,

Ihaveonlyrecentlybegunlookingatthisresearchinanexopoliticalframework,thankstotheworkofDr.MichaelSallainhisbook,Exopolitics.Leaveittoacollegeprofessortoshedsomenewlightonwhatwe“nutsandbolts”Ufologistshavebeendoingforyears,inmycaseasfarbackastheDr.J.AllenHynekyearsofthe1970sand1980s![HynekwasaprofessorofAstronomyatNorthwesternUniversityinIllinois.]Dr.Salla’sbook,Exopolitics,hasuslookatthetrueimplicationsonourcultureandsocietyofthisincreasedfocusonUFOsforthelastfiftyyears,sincethe“giftofRoswell!”Roswellwastheturningpoint,asitbecamearacetohidethetruthandcreatesuchadisinformationnetworkthatithasmostofuschasingourtails.TheGovernmentisnotatfaultandyetweblamethemythicalgovernment,whichhaschangedhandssomanytimessince1947andwhichevenmisinformsitsownpresidents.Weblamethemilitarybutnotallthemilitaryisguiltyofthismassivecover-up.Someelementsofthemilitaryhavebeentryingtokeepthetechnologicalandback-engineeringoperationsunderwrapsbuttheyprobablydonotunderstandthewholestorythemselves,oritsrealimplications.Therighthandoftendoesnotknowwhatthelefthandisdoingandthe“informationhandlers”haveallbeenreplacedovertheyears.

Picturedlefttoright:RobertWood,Dr.MichaelSalla,contacteeEufemiodelBuono,MaurizioBaiatainRome,2005.PhotobyPaolaHarris.Irecentlybeganlookingatthisparadigmshiftinanotherlight,sinceitseemsthatcontacthaschanged

andtheagendaseemstobeshiftingdirectlytothepeople.ThereismuchevidencewiththewitnesstestimonythatisnowemergingandwiththepresentationofStevenGreer’sDisclosureProjectandtheX-Conference,bothinWashingtonD.C.Someinterestingdoorsseemtobeopening.Itisnow2012andmorethanfiftyyearsaftertheHollomanEisenhowerAccord.Thequestionsare:Willtherebeashiftinconsciousness,inphilosophy,andwillpeoplebetiredofthisplanetarycontrolthoughfear,terrorismorother“false-flag”operations?Willthemilitarybetiredofkeepingsecretsthat,intheend,isnotinitsbestinterestoftheprotectionoffreedom?AllthesequestionsarepertinenttodaytowhatisanEarth-boundcivilizationofhumanbeingswhoarewatchingonetragicEarthchangeafteranotherhappen,someofthemconsequencesoftheirownrapingoftheenvironment.TurningtheCorner!

Lately,Ihavenoticedarealhungerandeagernesstoknowthetruthandarealcooperationtoshare

informationandfacilitatedisclosure,whichisreplacingtheterritorialityoftheresearchersofthepast.Maybethetimehascometogetonwithit!

TheCharlesHallcase,whichIcoverinthisbook,isamajorquantumleapindisclosureandexpertwitnesstestimony.Itopenedmanydoorstocooperationamongdifferenttypesofresearchers.ItbeganwithmyresearchofthecaseinJuly2003,togetherwithairlinepilot,DavidCoote,andaLAPD-retiredpoliceman.Thisresearchhasbeenenhancedbythecontributionsofresearchersallovertheworldwho,likeme,aretryingtofigurativelydigestthefactthataliencivilizationshavebeenhostedonEarth,asearlyas1965,inacooperativetechnologyexchange.Ifoneistobelieveex-AirForceweatherobserver,CharlesHall,andthestoryissorichindetailsthatthereislittlereasontodisbelievehim,wehavehadentirefamiliesoftheseso-calledstarvisitorsontheplanetforsomepartofourhistory.Ofcourse,CliffordStonetoldmethisyearsago––butwhoishebutsomeonewhoactuallywasinvolvedincrashretrievals!

ThefactthatpeoplelikeCharlesHall,CliffordStone,ColonelPhilipCorso,ClarkMcClellandandothercrediblemilitarywitnessesarebeingallowedtotalkmakesmethinkthattheagendahaschangedanddisclosureisclose.

Pictured:ThefirstX-ConferenceinWashington,D.C.PhotobyPaolaHarris,2005.ExobiologyandExopolitics

Willourreactionasaspeciesbe“shootfirstandaskquestionslater,”astheWernhervonBraunpredictionbeginstounveilitself?Iwouldbequitehesitanttobeginawarwithasuper-galacticforce.FormerCanadianMinisterofDefencePaulHellyeragrees.Allweknownowisthatwearebeing“watched!”

Ifthenewalienagendaistogodirectlytothepeople,thenhowwillthepeopleactor,betteryet,react?(Oneisacarefullyplannedpolicytheotherisanunpreparedandoftenviolentreactionbasedonfear.)Thatiswhyitissoimportantthatweweightheexopoliticalimplicationsofthisinevitablecontactthroughexaminingtheactualfactsandtestimonyandpastpoliticalpolicy.

IrememberwhenCarlSaganhelpedcreatethefascinatingscientificfieldofExobiologyandhetalkedtous,ontheNOVAprograms,aboutthepossibilitiesofextraterrestriallife.Itwasclearheknewmorebutlogicallyheneededtopresentitinstages.Itbeganaprocessofacceptanceofpossibilities;slowstepstowardsrevealingthetruth.Ashypotheticalasitwasthen,inthe1970s,ithasbecomemorerealinthismillenniumwiththeexplorationofourmanyinterplanetaryprobes.Therefore,itislogicalthatthecreationofExobiologygoeshand-in-handwiththecreationofExopolitics,aswe,onthisplanet,willneedtostudytheimplicationsbut,evenmore,theprotocolsforcontact!ThankstothepioneeringworkofDr.MichaelSallaandothers,wecanbegintoplananddecide“asaspecies”whatwearetodo.Weshouldcreateaphilosophybut,evenmoreimportantly,aprotocolandpoliticalstrategythatwillnotbebasedonfearbutonmutualrespect.FormerCanadianMinisterofDefence,PaulHellyermentionedthiswhenIinterviewedhiminTorontoinFebruary,2005.

Thiswillbecomemoreimportantthanmeasuringtheradiationlevelofthesoilsampleortheradarpositioningoftheobjectinourskies.Ironically,theUFOsbeingexaminedcouldbeourback-engineeredtechnology.Itistimetodetermineourindividualpositionsandourownindividualphilosophyofcontactandthenlookatourcollectiveroleasaspecies.

Intheend,weneedtoworkoutaphilosophyofstudythatcanbeincorporatedinouracademiatoeducateourfuturegenerationssotheydonotre-inventthewheelbutmaybere-interpretit.Also,toeliminatethisregimeoffear,wemayneedtoreturntoamorenaivetimewhereweactedoutofrespect;tobringbacktheenthusiasmofthe1950sdaysofspaceexplorationand,Sagan-like,wide-eyedwondermentoftheUniverse.Withaphilosophyinplace,theprotocolsmustcomenext.Ex-airmanCharlesHall,whenconfrontedwiththephysicalpresenceoftheTallWhites,neededtodecidewhethertostandorrun,whethertospeakorshoot,whetherhewassaneorinsaneandwhetherhewasactingasanindividualorpartofsomeestablishedprogram.Thisisallprotocolandanyfuturecontactwillpresentuswiththesefuturedilemmas.

Thisneedstobediscussednow.Thoseintheknowneedstobrieftheplanetontheagreementsmadeandtheyneedtocomecleanwithourrealhistory.

TheemergingleadersinExopoliticsneedtocontinuetostepforwardandhelpfacilitatethisnewsocialscience.

Someoneneedstodiscussthisnow.Someoneneedstobrieftheplanetontheagreementsmade.SomeoneneedstocomecleanwithourrealhistoryandsomeoneneedstohelpuspromoteanewsocialscienceinouruniversitiescalledExopolitics.

CarlSaganisgonebuthehasleftuswithhislegacyinthefilmContact.MaybeweneedtobelieveJodyFosterwhenshelosttime-travelminutesandmaybeweneedtobelieveCharlesHallinhisIndianSpringsexperienceofco-existencewithextraterrestrials:beingslikeuswhohavechildren.

Sothequestionsare:Whoisinchargetoday?WhatarewetoexpectfromourownUFOcopycattechnology?WherearetheAliens?Wherearethecrashes?Whyaremorecrediblewitnessesbeingallowedtotalkandwhoisnowrunningtheshow?Iwillcontinuetoaddressthesequestionsinthisbookbut,mostofall,Iwillcontinuetoemphasizeaneedforanewacademicdisciplinetoaddressthechallengeswefaceinthelikelihoodofimminentcontact.Iwillworkatreviewingprotocolsthathavebeenusedinpastcontactandanalyzewhetherwe,asaspecies,needtodevisenewones.Thiswasmygoalinwritingthis,mysecondbook,topresentnewinformationintheformofinterviewswithcrediblepeopletohelpstimulatecriticalthinking.

Yes!Afterallthistimewearestillconnectingthedots.––PaolaHarrisRome,Italy,2005

BackToTheFuture:AnUpdate“Justbecausesomethingisunknowndoesnotnecessarilymeanitneedstobefeared.Somesaythefutureispredetermined;otherssaywecanchangetheprobabilitiesandalterthefuture.Ithinkthefutureisdeterminedbythecharactersofthosewhoshapeit.Wearethosecharacters.Wecanshapeourfuture.Allwehavetodoistakeaction.Trustyourselfandtherestwillunfoldasitismeantto.Wecanenvision/imagineallwewant,butunlessweact.ourfuturewon’tchangethat.”––MelFabregas

Pictured:April,1997,InternationalUFOConference,Acapulco.Dr.J.AllenHynek,RayStanfordandJamesHurtakaddressingthefuturegeneration.

ThesewisewordsfromVeritasradiohostMelFabregasechomythoughtsabouttheexcitingyearof

2012.JustasIamrevisingandrevampingthisbook,Ibelieveitistimetotakere-evaluate,ourlives,ourdirectionandourfocus.Itistheendoftheoldworldthinkingandpossiblestartofthenewone;onefilledwithpossibilitiesbasedonanenlightenedvision,compassionandlove.Thecollapseofourinstitutions,economic,educationalandrestructuringofourspiritualthinkingwillencompassamoreglobalworldviewthatmaybeall-inclusive.Thekey,asMelFabregastellsus,isto“takeaction.”WecanseefromthemovementslikeOccupyWallStreetandothersocialproteststhatpeoplearefeelingmoreempowered.Wearere-evaluatingourscientificmaterialisticattitudes,atermDr.JohnMackoftenused.

Itleavesaspaceforthe“knowingoftheheartorintuitiveknowing.”Iimaginethat“speakingtoaballoflight”orcommunicatingwithdisembodiedintelligencesingeneralwillincorporatethistypeofskill.Wewouldbeabletounderstandallcultures,alllanguages,allethnicitiesbyusing“directthoughttransfer.”Weneedtodevelopthisskill.

Thismayappealtoouroff-worldneighborsandperhapsopenthedoorsforcommunicationandrealgalacticdiplomacy.Weshallsee.AllIknowisthatitisanexcitingtimetobealive.

Ihaveaddedsomenewinterviewstothisrevisedversionofmyoriginalbook,noneperhapssoimportantasthatofKimArnold,thirdyoungestdaughterofKennethArnold.Shehasconsentedtocomeforthandputthepastinperspective.KennethArnoldwasthemanwhostarteditallin1947.Beingthathewasapilotandcrediblewitness,herealizedhissightingopenedthedoortothevalidationofthisphenomenon,whichhereferstoasafact.Itssignificancefortheplanetisfargreaterthanwecaneverrealize.Allthishasmademerealizehowfardisclosurehasprogressed.Yes!Wehavedisclosurewiththewordsofthesefirsthandwitnesses,theseunmistakableplayerswhohavecontributedmuchtothebodyof

knowledgeinthefield.Disclosurewillnotcomeasaformalannouncementfromanymajorgovernment,includingthepresidentoftheUnitedStates.Theyhavetoomuchtoloose,andthey,likeusresearchersdonothavetheanswers.Theycannotmicro-managethisphenomenaalthoughmanyintelligenceagenciesbelievetheycan.

Pictured:ExopoliticsSummit,Barcelona,Spain,2009.

Weknowthereisasmall“managinggroup“whodealprimarilywiththemedia,eventhesocialmediaandtheyreleasesmallbitsofinformationtoseethepublicreaction.Thistop-secretgroup,muchliketheMJ-12groupareaccountabletonooneandhavetheirownprivateagendaandoperateinternationallyacrosstheboard.Inessence,noonecancontroltheETS,whentheyappear,whomtheychoosetocontactandhowtheyflyinandoutofourairspace;notevenNASAcandoit.Theyhavetheirhandstied.

ItisinterestingtonotethatIhavereturnedtothetermUfologyinsteadofExopoliticswhichIusedintheoriginalbooktitlebecauseofthecontaminationsurroundingthisareadonebyego-drivenwriterswhodonotresearchanythingbutusethisnewtermfortabloidjournalismandprofit.Theydoitbyincitingexcitement,fearandconfusioninthereaders.Ifeelthattheconspiracytheorythemewhichisnowprevalentunderexopoliticalbannerisnonbeneficial,isdangerousanddistractsthegeneralpublicfromthetruepurposeofExopoliticswhichshouldbeeducationwhichbringssometypeofenlightenment.IhavebecomeverydisillusionedbyitallandthistypeofExopoliticshasgiventhisdisciplineabadnameandaddedmuchdisinformationtovalidresearch.Europe,ontheotherhand,hasmaintainedahighstandardforitsexopoliticalnetwork.IsawthiswhenIattendedtheMay2011PortugalmeetingofEuropeangroupsorganizedbyFranciscoCorrea(ExopoliticsPortugal).Theyaresuccessfulinreachingsocialmediaoutletsbytheirmeticulousandverifiableresearch.TheyhaveadifferentethicandalesscommercialapproachandIheraldthemaspioneersforthefuture.Theyarethegroupofyoungpeoplewhosupportedatthe2009BarcelonaSummit(TimeforTruth2009).

Inasense,itisastepbackforme,butthefactthatIamstilldiscussingprotocolsforcontactandgalacticdiplomacymeansthefocusisstillonthefuture.Inessence,sincethereisnotimeinthequantumcontinuum,thenwemustviewitaspastflowingintopresent.Itisalllearning.Itisallpartoftheprocessorjourney,ifyouwill,anditisallgood.––PaolaHarrisBoulder,Colorado,2012

SectionOneBacktothePast

“Itismyimpressionthateveryone,nomatterwhatparttheyplayinthisexistencethatseemstogoonintoinfinity,hasaspecialpurposeoraspecialtaskoraspecialreasonforbeingwhattheyareandfordoingthingstheydo.”––FromTheComingoftheSaucersbyKennethArnoldandRaymondPalmerTheManWhoStartedItAll:InterviewwithKimArnold,DaughterofKennethArnold

WeallknowthatJune24,1947wasanimportantdateinthehistoryofthisdisciplinewenowcallUfology,thestudyofUFOs.ItisobviousfromKennethArnold’sownwordsandthoseofhisthirdyoungestoffourdaughters,KimArnold,thatArnoldhadasenseofdestinyabouthissightingofninediskstravelingatoveronethousandmilesanhourinanechelonformationbetweenMountRainerandMountAdamsinWashingtonState.Beingapilotandacrediblewitness,Arnoldishowevermostfamousforcoiningtheterm“flyingSaucer”,awordthathasinserteditselfinourworkingvocabularyofthestudyofunidentifiedflyingobjectsingeneral.HisdescriptionoftheobjectstonewsmeninPendleton,Oregonin1947wasthat“theyflewlikeasaucerwouldifyouskippeditacrosswater.”Somehow,hebelievedinthisdestiny,thathewasintherightplaceattherighttime.

ThiseventwreakedhavoconhislifeandthatofhisentirefamilywhileitpeakedhispersonalinterestinUFOsingeneral.HewasrequestedtosendinafullreportofhisexperiencetothecommandingofficerofWright-PattersonField,whichhehappilydid.Healsoofferedpublicallytosubmithimselffreelytoaphysicalandmentalexaminationbythemilitary.Hehadahealthcertificatewhichqualifiedhimtoflyasacommercialpilot.Initially,KennethArnoldcooperatedfullywiththepress,theintelligencecommunityandinvestigatorsbecausehewasasincereandhonestman,amanwhowaspersonallycuriousaboutwhatthisallrepresented.Fromthisinterviewwithhisdaughter,wecanseethatsadlyhewasdisillusionedaswellasharassedfortheremainderofhislife.

ItisinterestingtonotethatduringhissecondsightingonthewaytoTacoma,WashingtononJuly29,1947,Arnoldwasabletofilmaclusteroftwentytotwentyfivebrasscoloredobjectsthatlookedlikeducks,comingathisplaneatterrificspeeds.Hisfilmingattemptwaslessthansuccessfulasonlyoneortwoobjectsappearedonthefilm.Likesomanywitnesses,hesoughtvalidationfortheanomalyhehadseen,attimesthinkingthatitmayhavebeenexoticforeigntechnologyfromanothercountryor“guidedmissiles,”roboticallycontrolled.HewatchedthenewswiresverycloselyfromJune28thtoJuly3rdasthereappearedtobeaflyingsaucerflapovertheentirecountry.Ironicallyinthattimeperiod,weallknowthattherewasthenewspaperreleaseofacrashedsaucerrecoveredbythemilitaryinRoswell,NewMexicoinJuly1947.

InhisbookTheComingoftheSaucers,ArnoldtalksaboutanothersightingnearBoise,IdahobyUnitedAirlines,CaptainE.J.Smith,highlyrespected,veteranpilotwhohadthissightingverifiedbytheentirecrewofhisDC-3onJuly4,1947.TheSmithsightingwasofninedisksflyinginlooseformation,takingoffintremendousspeeds,Ironically,bothKennethArnoldandCaptainSmithbecameinvestigatorsofthemysterious,illusiveMauryIslandincidentthatincludedthedisappearanceofthechiefwitnessesandthedeathsoftwointelligenceofficers.Thiswouldbeenoughtoscareanyoneawayfrominvestigatingflyingsaucers.Intheend,Arnoldwouldsay“Flyingsaucersarenotajoke.”

Arnold’sgrounded,nononsense,investigativenaturecaughttheinterestoftheIntelligencecommunitywithwhomhecooperatedinitiallyespeciallywiththetragicMauryIsland,WashingtonStateincident.Thereportincludedamalfunctioningdisk,whichspewedforthwhatappearedtobetwodifferentsubstancesamaterialdescribedasthickwhitenewspaper-likemetalthatfloateddowntothebay;andablackmetallikesubstance.Mycolleague,astronomerJ.AllenHynekwouldlaterdescribethistypeofencounteras

thatofthesecondkind;aphysicaltracescase.Becauseofthebizarrecircumstances,nosuchmaterialswererecoveredsuccessfullyalthoughArnoldandSmithsawthem.Thereisstrongevidencethatinthosedays,thesewitnesswerediscreditedoreliminated,butthesecrethadtobekeptsecret.AsKennethArnoldsaysintheintroductiontohisandPalmer’sbook,“Thisthingisbig.Itissomethingtowhichwemostcertainlyoughttohaveananswer.”Itwashisconvictionthatthefactsalreadyathandmustnotbeburiedbeneathamassofofficialstupidityandasmokescreenofidiocies.Hebelieveditwas“timefortruth”becauseitwasthemostimportantfactofourtime,andhestressedthewordfact.

ThehistoricalperspectiveiswhatnowinterestsmemostasaUFOinvestigator,especiallywhenIrealizedthatDisclosurewithacapital“D”maynotbeimminentinourlifetime.ItwasfromaCoasttoCoastAMRadiointerviewIdidthatKennethArnold’sgranddaughter,ShanelleMarieSchanz,calledintospeaktome.Sheconsequentlyintroducedmetohermother,KimArnold.Kim,agrandmotheroftwogranddaughters,isthethirddaughterofKennethandDorisArnold’sfourdaughters.Itisobviousfromthisinterviewthatshehadaspecialrelationshipwithherdad.ShewasatfirsthesitanttocomeforthduetotheconflictandstressthatthissubjectmattercausedintheArnoldhousehold.Iwashappythatshefinallyconsentedtodothisdebutinterview.

Inessence,itreflectsherownindividualfeelingsaboutherfatherandthesubjectofUFOs.Kimhasmuchtosayandherperspectiveissoimportanttothehistoricalarchiveofseriousresearcherstoday.InterviewwithKimArnoldDaughterofKennethArnoldBoulder,ColoradoNovember7,2011“Well,I’dliketobringclosuretomyfather’ssightingonJune24,1947andIjustfeelinmyheartthatIwasthechildborntodothis.Ijusthadtogothrougheverything.AndIhadtoreadeverything.Iwasonaspiritualmission.Ihadtotrytofigureoutformyselfwhyallthishadhappenedtoourfamily.Whywasitmyfatherthatwaschosentobringthisawarenessof‘OtherWorlds’intohumanconsciousness?”Paola:YournameisKimArnold.YouarethethirddaughterofKennethArnold.Kim:Yes,Iam57yearsoldnow.Paola:Areyoutheyoungestchildorareyouthesecondyoungestchild?Kim:Iamthesecondtotheyoungestchild.Iamtheirthirddaughter.Paola:Oh,you’rethethird.Soaretheretwoyoungerthanyou?Kim:IhaveoneyoungersisterandIhavetwooldersisters.Paola:Haveyouthoughtaboutspeakingtothepublicforawhileandsharingyourthoughts?Kim:Youknow,tobehonestwithyou,I’vealwaysfeltitwasmyhumandestinytotalkwithpeople,youknow,abouthowmymotherandfatherfeltabouttheirexperience.Abouthisexperience,myfatherbecomingfamousandknownas“TheManWhoStartedItAll,”abouthisflyingsaucer––UFOexperiences,andmaybesharingwitheverybodymyparents’views.TheirviewsabouttheirconclusionsastowhattheybelievedtheUFOswere––theirtheoryattheendoftheirhumanlives.Paola:Wasitimportanttoyouwhenyouwereinyour20sor30s?Inyourearlyyears,didyouthinkaboutitthen?Kim:DidIthinkaboutitthen?

Paola:DidyoureadUFOmagazines?Kim:No,Ididnot.Iwasoverwhelmedwithbeingmarried,tryingtogetthroughthestrugglesofeverydaylife,marriageandraisingtwolittlechildren.Ihavetwoadultchildren,now,asonandadaughterandwiththeeverydaystrugglesoflife…Ididnothavetimetoeventhinkaboutit.Paola:Well,that’sperfect.Becauseyou’reveryhonestandyourmotivesarepure.Becausethereisatiminginone’slifewhenonewantstospeakaboutthesethings.Soin2012,doyouthinkit’stimetotalkaboutit?Kim:Well,I’dliketobringsomekindofclosuretoitandIjustfeelinmyheartthatmaybeIwasthechildchosentodothis.Becauseithasreallybeenperplexingtome––themysteryofitall.So,Ibeganaspiritualjourneyseekingtheanswers––youknow,itmusthavebeenin1994––seriously.IthinkitwasclearbackthenthatIdecidedtogetoutallthefilesandmyfather’soldtapesandjuststartgoingthroughthem.Andmymother,youknow,wasgoingtothrowalltheUFOstuffaway.IfIhadn’tlivedclosetoher,shewouldhavereallyjusttosseditallaway.Paola:Wasyourmotheralivein1994?Kim:No,no.Mymotherdied…actuallymymotherdiedonthe45thanniversarydateofthebombingofNagasaki,Japan.ShediedonAugust9,1990.Paola:Soin1994allatonceyou…Kim:Justaminute.I’mtryingtofigureitout.Itwasfouryearsaftermymotherdied.Yes,itwastheyear1994,thatiscorrect.Paola:Okay.Sowhatdidyouthinkaboutdoing?Didyouthinkaboutwritingabook,abouttalking?Kim:No,atthattimeIjusthadtogothrougheverything.AndIhadtoreadeverything.Iwasdriventofindsomething––anythingthatwouldhelpmeunderstandwhythishadhappened.Whymyfatherhadbeenchosentobringthisawarenessintohumanconsciousness,therealityof“OtherWorlds.”Becauseitwassodifficult,youknow.Itmadebothmymother’sandmyfather’slivesextremelydifficult,itreallydid.Itaffectedtheirdaughter’slivesinaverypowerfulway.Paola:Well,whenyouwereinyourchildhoodandgrowingupinthatfamilywithyourothersisters,whendoyouremembertheUFO/flyingsaucer’sbeinganissue?Wasitwhenyouwerealittlegirlorwhenyouwereateenager?Whendoyourememberyourdadtalkingaboutit?

Pictured:KennethArnoldanddaughterKim,courtesyKimArnold.

Kim:Itwasalwaysanissue.Itseemedlikemydadwasalwaysupsetaboutit.Itwaslikewelivedintheshadowofthe“saucers.”Really,itwaslikeashadowhadbeencastoverourentirefamily.Itwouldbeanotherjournalistcallingmyfatheroutofthemiddleoftheblue.ItwouldbesomebodycallinghimfromLondon,England,wantinghimtodosomething.ItwouldbeanarticleonUFOshewouldreadinthenewspaper.AndIguessthebiggestproblemwasthatitseemedlikeeveryonethatmydadgotinvolvedwithregardinghissightingoftheflyingsaucers…thatheneverhadthemoneytohireaprofessionalattorneytoprotecthim.Thatwashisbiggestproblemthathegotinvolvedwithpeoplewherenothingeverseemedtoturnoutthewaythathewanteditto.Sohefeltverydiscouragedandvery,verysad.Itjustseemedlikeeveryonehegotinvolvedwithmadehimveryangryorsad.Iguessitwouldbefairtosaymyfatherwasaverysensitivemanandcarriedhisheartonhissleeve.Yet,healsowasamanofgreatstrengthandintegrity.Aman’sman,youwouldsay.Amanthatothermenadmiredandlookedupto.Paola:Doyouthinkhethoughtpeopleweretakingadvantageofhim?Kim:Oh,yes,ofcourse.Infact,hekindofcalleditbeing“exploited.”Hefeltthathehadbeenexploitedinmanyways,duetothefactthathewasafamousman.Yes,hedid.Absolutely.Andthesadpartofitwasthatmostpeopledidn’tevenreallylistentowhathehadtosay.Theyjustgot,youknow,intohislife,gotmostoftheinformationtheythoughtwasimportantandranoffandjustdidwhatevertheywantedtodowithit.Hewasn’trepresentedastruthfullyandashonestlyinawaythathefeltproudof.Paola:Okay,Kim,thisisourchancetorepresenthim.Whatdidyourdadthinkabouthisfirstsighting?Kim:Well,hisfirstsightingonJune24,1947.Okay.Whatdidhethinkaboutit?Well,itisafact.Hesawnineunusualobjectstravellingattremendousspeed,andhewasinaperfectpositiontoclocktheirspeed,andyouknow,hewasverymucharealistaboutthisbecausehewasapilot.Andyouknow;pilotshavetobeveryawareofwhatisintheairatalltimes,becausetheirlifedependsontheirabilitytomakesounddecisions.Andthelightthatlitupthecockpitofhisairplanewasbright,sobrightthathecomparedittothebrightnessofawelder’sarclight.Thisbrightnessstartledandfrightenedhim.Helookedaroundtosee

wherethislighthadcomefrom.Hethought,atfirst,perhapsitwasthesun’sreflectionoffanotherairplanecloseby.Whenthesecondflashhappenedhecouldseeinthedistancewheretheflashhadcomefrom.HesawtheseverybrightobjectstravellingveryclosetothemountaintopsintheCascademountainrangenearMountRainier,andhethoughttheymightbeaformationofjets…herolleddownhiswindowofhisairplanetomakesurehecouldseeclearlywhathewasseeing…hewasveryconfusedaboutwhathewasseeing.Hejustcouldnotseeanytailsonthemlikeordinaryaircraft.Paola:Whatkindofairplanewasheflyingthatherolledhiswindowdownin?Kim:HehadaCallAirA-2plane.TheyweremadeinAfton,Wyoming.Yes.CallAir.Theywereespeciallydesignedsmallairplanesdesignedtoflyathigheraltitudes.Paola:Okay.Butyouhadtoldmeoncethathewaslookingforsomethingelsethatday.Hewasonhiswaysomewhere.Kim:OnDecember10,1946,therehadbeenaplanecrash.AC-46Marinetransportplanecarryingthirty-twomarineswasbelievedtohavecrashedintoMountRainier.Therewasa$5000rewardforanybodywhofounditslocation.SothatcrashhappenedonDecember10,1946,inthedeadofwinter.ThiswasJune24,1947sohewasuptherehopingtofindthecrashsiteandcollectthereward.Paola:Well,that’sreallyinteresting.Andthethingisthatheinsteadhadthisfamoussighting.What’sthefirstthinghedid?Didhecomedownandreportit?Didhetalktothefamilyaboutit?Kim:Well,yes.Hecamedownandhestartedtalking.HeflewdirectlytoYakima,landedandwentintoseeAlBaxter,thegeneralmanagerofCentralAircraft.Mr.Baxtercalledinsomeotherpilotsintotheroomtolistentomyfather’sstory.ThenmyfathertookoffforPendleton,Oregonandwhenhegotthereagroupofpeopleweretheretogreethim.Newsofhisstrangesightinghadtravelled––FAST!Paola:Basically,thenwhathappened?Didpeoplebecomeinterestedinhissighting?Howdidthephrase“flyingsaucers”comeabout?Kim:Well,becausehedescribedtoanewspaperreporterhowerraticallytheyflewandtheyflewlikeasaucerwouldifyouskippeditacrosswater.Andthenthenewspaperreporterjustkindofcameupwiththisterm“flyingsaucers.”ButactuallytheUFOsweren’tcompletelyroundlikeasauceratall.Theyweren’troundlikethat.No,theyweren’t.Butthat’showtheygotthenameflyingsaucersfromthewaymyfatherdescribedthemtothenewspaperreporterastohowtheyflew.Paola:Okay.Didanyonetrytotalkhimoutofit?Didsomebodycomeandtrytotalkhimoutofhissighting?Kim:No.Nobodytriedtotalkhimoutofwhathesaw.Everyonejustwonderedwhathehadreallyseen.Paola:ButImean,didtheysay,“Whatyousawwasn’treal,”ordidtheyaskhimifhethought“thesaucers”werefromanotherplanet?Kim:Well,no.Noonereallyknewwhattheywereatfirst.Everyonewasstillinastateofparanoia,becauseoftheatomicbombsthathadbeendroppedonHiroshimaandNagasakitoendthewar.Ithadonlybeensomethingliketwenty-threemonthssincethebombshadbeendroppedonJapan.Myfatherwasridingthefearandparanoialikeeveryoneelse.Hewasinfearthatthesestrangecraftmightbeguidedmissiles,roboticallycontrolled…maybefromRussia.Thattheymightbecarryingnuclearweapons.Thatwashisbiggestfear;nuclearweapons,becausetheyweretravelingsofast.Theirspeedfrightenedhim.Hefiguredthecombinationwiththespeedofthiscraftcombinedwithnuclearweaponscoulddestroyournation.Soheactuallystoodupandsaidwhathesawbecausehewasinfearforthesafetyofournation.Idonotbelieveanyone,atfirst,evenconsideredthesestrangecraftwerefromanotherplanet.Myfatherbelievedwhathehadseenwereveryrealandphysical.Remember,herolleddownthewindowofhis

airplanejusttoprovetohimselfwhathewasseeing.Paola:Sohewasapatriot,really.Helookedatitasamatterofnationaldefense,sothat’swhathedid.Kim:Heviewedhissightingofthisstrangecraftasaveryserioussubject.Hebelieveditwasamatterofimportanceforournationalsecurity.

Pictured:KenArnold,courtesyKimArnold.

Paola:Okay,laterinhislifedidhebecomeobsessedbyit?Didhereadbooksaboutit?Didhetalktopeopleaboutit?Kim:Oh,notatall.HewassoperplexedandsooverwhelmedwithsomuchpublicityovertheUFOorflyingsaucersubjectforsomanyyearsthathebecamearecluse,andhesteppedawayfromthewholeUFOcircus,youmightsay.Hetalkedaboutitasaridiculouscircus.Hedidn’twanttobepartofitbecausehereallybelievedthatwhathadhappenedtohimwasimportantanditwasaspiritualexperience;thatithadhappenedtohimforsometypeofdivinepurpose.Hetrulybelievedthatthiswasaveryserioussubjectthatshouldbestudiedinascientificmanner.Hewasveryperplexedandconfusedabouteverybody’sconceptofaliensvisitingfromotherplanets––thattypeofthing.Hedidn’treallyfeellikethatiswhattheywereatall.Nottheoneshehadseen.Aftermanyyearsofreflectingaboutwhathehadtrulyseen,hebelievedtheywerealive,ratherthananythingmadeoutofnutsandbolts.Paola:Solet’sjustdescribewhatyourdadfelttheywere.Whatdidyourdadfeeltheywereandwheredidhethinktheycamefrom?Kim:Well,youneedtoknowwhatbothmyparentsbelieved;theirpersonaltheories.Paola:Bothyourparents,yes.Wehaven’ttalkedaboutyourmomyet.Whatdidyourdadthink?Kim:Well,actuallymydadbelievedthattheywerepossiblyfromtheworldwherewegowhenwedie.That’swhathebelieved.Hewasonlybraveenoughtotellthistoanewspaperreportertwoyearsbeforehediedin1982,thathefelttheflyingsaucerswerethelinkbetweenthelivingandthedead.Ittookhimhisentirelifetimeto“letthecatoutofthebag”youmightsay,andbebraveenoughtostateitthewayhereallybelieved.Paola:Hebelievedthattheywerereallyinter-dimensional,orhyper-dimensional?Kim:No.HebelievedintheconceptthatpossiblytheflyingsaucersorUFOswerejustoneofthewayswetraveledwhenweweren’tinaphysicalbody.Possiblythereweremanywaystotravelin“other

worlds”or“otherdimensions,”justlikewehavemanydifferentwaysoftravelinghereonthephysicalplanewherewenowexist.Paola:Sodidhethinktherewerehumanbeingsinsidethen?Kim:Well,youknowwhenyoudie,Paola,noonetakestheirphysicalbodieswiththemwhentheydie.Allofusleaveourphysicalbodieshere.Andyourremainsjustnaturallybecomepartoftheearth.Sowhatyoutakewithyou,Ithink,isyourbodyoflight,oryoursoulbody,which,Ibelieveisreallywhoweare;indestructiblebeingsoflightenergy.Myfatherexplainedtomehisphilosophyofwhatwewereinaverysimpleinterestingway.IrememberthatIwas17yearsoldwhenhetoldmethisconcept.Iwasatmyparents’homeandwewereoutinthekitchen…hebegan,“Youknow,KimmieButtons(Iknowitisfunny,buthecalledmeKimmieButtons,itwasmynicknameasalittlegirl),openinguptherefrigerator…takingoutanicecubetray…here’sanicecubetray.Youseealltheseicecubes?”AndIsaid,“Yes.”Ididn’tknowwhathewasgoingtotellme,andhecontinued,“Seethisoneicecube?Ibelievethatwhenyouarealiveinhumanformyouareinasolidform,likethisicecube.Whenwedie,orleaveourhumanbodywejustchangeform(liketheicecubewhenitmelts)butretainourtrueidentity.”WhathesaidtomeIwillneverforget.Iknewthatthistheoryofhiswasduetohissightingoftheflyingsaucers.Ijustunderstoodthis.Paola:Well,that’sreallyinteresting.Nowthere’sabookwrittenabouthimandIthinkit’swithRayPalmer.Whatwasthatallabout?Kim:Oh,TheComingoftheSaucers.Paola:Yes.Kim:Well,tobehonestwithyou,itisaverypoorlywrittenbookpublishedin1952.AsalittlegirlIcouldn’tevenfinishreadingit…itwassoboring.Thefirsthalfofthebookmyfatherwroteandthatwasinteresting…butthesecondhalfthatRayPalmerwrotewasboring…boring….MyfatherturneddownanofferfromDoubledayBookPublishingof$50,000inthelate40s.Ibelieveitmusthavebeenbecausetheircontractwassimplytoocomplexandoverwhelming….andIdonotknowforsure,butIthinkthatDoubledayhadaclauseintheircontractwheretheyhadtherighttofictionalizehisstory…tomakeitmoremarketable.Myfatherfeltcompelledtokeephisstoryaccurateforhistory.Myfatherhadthisthingbelievinginscienceandhistory.Hefelttheywereimportantsubjects.Healsofeltthatthisexperiencehadhappenedtohimforadivinepurpose.$50,000wasalotofmoneytoturndownclearbackinthelate40s.Ifhehadacceptedtheiroffer,itwouldhavemadeagreatimpactonhislifeandthelivesofhisfamilymembers.Hewasgettingalotofmail.Itissaid10,000lettersfrompeopleallovertheworld.Somehowinallthisconfusion,hereadaletterfromamannamedRayPalmer.In1947,Mr.PalmerwastheeditoratZiff-DavisPublishingCompanyinChicago,Illinois.MyfatherwastakenbythesincerityofRayPalmer’slettersandtheybecamelongdistantfriends.MybestguessisthatmyfatherfeltcomfortablewithRayPalmer,hesimplylikedMr.Palmer’spersonalityonpaper.So,asitwent,RayPalmerandmyfatherdecidedtodoabooktogether.Sothat’skindofhowthebookcameabout.Paola:Yes,well,wereyouaroundwhenhewaswritingthisbook?Kim:No,Iwasn’tevenborn.Iwasbornin1954,sevenyearsaftermyfather’shistoricalsighting.Paola:Sohewrotethebookbeforeyouwereborn.Soyouknewtherewasabookyourfatherwasinvolvedin.Kim:Well,youknow,myfatherhadasecretstashofhisbooksfloatingaroundthehouse…youknow.Dadautographedandgavemostofthemaway.Itupsetmymother––shehadtohidebooksfromhimsohisowndaughterswouldeachhaveone…heautographedonetomeandheautographedonetomyothersisters,

thankstoourmotherhidingthemfromdad.Paola:Didhelikethebook?Washesatisfiedwithit?Kim:Idon’tthinkthathethoughtitwasthebest…butwhatmatteredtohimwasthathisownwordswereprintedexactly,andhewasproudofthat.Obviously,itneverwasabestseller…anditwasneverfinanciallysuccessful.Itwasjustkindof…itjustwasn’twrittenverywell,writteninaveryinterestingmannerlikeDoubledaywouldhavewrittenit,butthatistheonlybookinexistenceatthispointthathasbeendoneabouthissighting.Paola:Yourfather,hehadconclusionsaboutwhattheUFOphenomenonwas,butwasheinterestedinsightings,orincases,orinalienlandings?Doyourememberhiminhislateryearseverbeingjusttotallyconvinced?Kim:Yes,inthebeginning,hewentthroughaphaseofinterviewingotherpeoplewhohadinterestingexperiences.Heboughtareeltoreeltaperecorderandflewoffinhisairplaneandinterviewedpeopleandrecordedtheirexperiences.ThesepeoplejustcameintohislifebecausetheyknewtheycouldtalktoKennethArnold.Hewasasafeperson.Theybelievedthathewouldunderstandthem,sotheycontactedhim.Youknow,heandmymotherhadinterestingpeoplejustknockingontheirfrontdoor.Isawthishappeningevenmanyyearsafterhehadbecomefamous.Peoplewouldseekhimout.Hebelievedpeoplereallydidhavesomeveryinterestingstories,andforthemostpart,theyseemedtobeverysaneandtruthfulabouttheirexperiences.Actually,historicallyhewasthefirst“Ufologist.”Paola:Well,see,thisisreallyinteresting.Ididn’tknowthisabouthim.Sohestartedrecordingandresearching.Itwasalsoaspiritualjourney.Kim:Yes.HewasactuallythefirstUfologist.Atleasthewasouttheredoingitonhisown.Becausetheywereinterestingstoriesandhestartedkindofthinking,someofthesestoriesmightbetrue.Inotherwords,whathadhappenedtohim…strangethingshappentootherpeopletoo.Sowhywouldhegiveotherpeoplethebenefitofthedoubtthattheydidn’thaverealexperiencestoo.Paola:DidyourfatherevermeetDr.J.AllenHynek?Kim:IbelievemyfathermetDr.HynekattheFirstInternationalUFOCongressheldatChicago’sPick-CongressHotelfromJune24throughJune26in1977.ItwasatthisUFOCongressin1977,Ibelievethisiscorrect.Dr.Hynekwasaspeakeratthisconferencealongwithmyfather.Paola:Okay.Kim:Yes,thatwasthelastmajorconferencethatmydadwasakeynotespeakerat.Itwasin1977.Paola:Doyouhaveanymaterialsortapesfromthatconference?Kim:Yes,Ido.Paola:Well,itwouldbeperfecttohearwhathehastosaybecausehe’snolongerwithus,andyou’rekindofaspokespersonforhim.Kim:Ihavethebook,recordandallthetapesinmyfather’sfiles.Paola:Well,thatmightbeinterestingforyoujusttogooverthat,tohearwhathehastosayhimself,becauseI’mcurious,too.So,yourdadhadcertainideasandyousaidhewasverydisillusionedandhebecamearecluse.Doyoumeanlikehedidn’treallywanttospeaktothegeneralpublicduringthelastpartofhislife?Kim:Yes,hewasjusttiredandwornoutfromallofit.Hehadrepeatedthesamestoryoverandoveragain.Somanytimeshesimplygottiredofdoingit.Italwaysseemedtointerrupthislifeandhisability

tofocusonmakingalivingforhisfamily.So,hejustgottothepointwherehedidn’twanttodoitanymore.Paola:Okay.Well,let’stalkaboutwhatallthisdidtoyourfamily.Imean,thisisafamily.Doyourememberyourmotherandherthoughtsonit?Yousaidyourmomwasamedium,shewasverysensitive.Kim:Well,Iwouldn’tsaythatshewasamedium.Imean,shehadabilitiesofmentaltelepathyandthatkindofperplexedthefamily,too,thatshehadthisabilityofmentaltelepathy.AndIdidpersonalresearchonmymother’ssideofthefamily.ItriedtoresearcheverythingandIfoundoutthatwhenmymotherwasalittlegirl,mygrandmotherwouldhaveallherlittlegirlspracticementaltelepathywhentheywerebakingintheirkitcheninWeiser,Idaho.Inevermetmygrandmotheronmymother’sside.Shediedwhenmyoldestsisterwasjustababy,yearsbeforeIwasborn.Anyway,Iheardthroughthegrapevinethatmygrandmotherusedtoencourageherchildren,herdaughters,topracticementaltelepathyinthekitchenwhentheywerecooking.Shewouldhaveoneofthemtrytothinkofasongandshe’dhavetheothergirlstryandguessthesong,andtheycoulddoit.Soapparentlymygrandmotherknewthisuniqueabilityraninherfamilyline…tobepsychicandsensitive––beingtelepathicwasanaturalability.Paola:Well,that’sveryinteresting.Doyouthinkyouhavesomeofthoseabilities,too?Kim:Youknow,I’llbehonestwithyou.AtfirstIdidn’tbelieveinit,sincerely.AndIremembermymomtellingmeaboutoneparticularincidentwhenIwasgoingwithmyfirstboyfriend,Daniel,whenIwasjust16yearsold.Iwasinthecarwithheronedaywhenwewerebackingoutofhisdrivewayandshesaidtome…“Youknow,Kimmie,thereasonyou’regoingwithDanielisbecauseyouweremarriedtohiminapreviouslifetimeandhedrowned.”AndIlookedatherandIthought,“Well,that’sinteresting,mom(butIreallydidnotunderstandtheimportanceofwhatshewastellingmeatthistimeinmylife).”IjustthoughtwhatshehadsaidtomewasinterestingandIdidbelievethatmymotherhadsomeuniqueabilities,butIdidnotreallyunderstandthem.ButIwasprettyyoungthen.Ilovedmymotherdearly,andIreallydidnotunderstandheruniqueabilitiesorideasandwheretheycamefrom,oriftheywerereallyreal.Ididnotunderstandthatthiswasreallypossibletorememberpastlifetimes,forhertoknowthesestrangethings.But,asIgotolder,IwentthroughastagewhereIhadsomeinterestingexperiencesrememberingpastlifetimes.Youknow,manypeopledohavetheserecallsduringtheirlifetimes.Now,becauseIhavehadthesetypesofexperiences,myselfnow.Iunderstandthatmymother’sexperiencesaboutrememberingpastlifetimesandhavingthisabilitywereveryrealandvalidexperiences.NowItrulybelievemymotherwasaveryadvancedsoulandpassedthisspecialtelepathicabilitytome.Obviously,itwaspasseddownfromgenerationtogeneration.Frommypersonalviewpoint,reincarnationisthetruthandwedocomebackinhumanformforexperience.Ibelieveitissimplycalled“thetravelsofthesoul”.Paola:Well,that’sreallyinterestingbecauseyourmomisamultidimensionalperson.She’sinterestedinsomanythings.Tellme,howdidshereacttotheUFOexperienceandthefactthateverybodywantedtotalktoyourdad?Howdidshereacttothewholefield?Kim:Well,thewholehousewasjustchaotic.Itwassimplynuts.Imean,theyreceived10,000lettersfrompeopleallovertheworld.Mydadbecameworld-famousovernight.Mymothergottiredofpackingthe10,000lettersfromhometohomewhentheymoved.Idonotknowwhenshethrewoutalltheoldletters,butshedidatonepointtrashthem.Shejustcouldn’thandleit.Alotoftheletterswerepeopletalkingaboutthe“EndoftheWorld”becauseoftherealityofatomicbombs.Apreacherpubliclystatedthatmyfatherwas“Aprophetandmessengerfortheendoftheworld”Youknow,peopleweresayingallkindsofstrangethingsaboutmyfather.Soactuallythehubbub,journalistscallingthemnightandday––theirtelephoneringingoffthehook…itjustwentonfordays,weekslikethat.So,no,tobehonestwith

you,itdeeplyupsettheirnormalfamilylife,verymuchso.Mydadwasonlythirty-twoyearsoldatthistimeandmymotherwasonlytwenty-ninewhenthishappenedtothem.Theyhadtwosmallchildren,twodaughtersages4and21/2yearsold.Theywereveryyoungparentstryingtodealwithacrazyandstrangesituationatayoungage.Paola:Oh,Isee.Anddidtheywishitwouldgoaway?Kim:Iamsuretheydid.But,itwassimplyimpossible.Myfathertookastancethathewashonestandstoodstrongforwhathebelievedwasthetruth.Hesawwhathesawandstoodbythetruthofhisstoryuntilhishumandeath.Paola:Butyouknow,whenyou’redescribingthisitalmostseemslikedestiny.Likeitcouldn’tgoawaybecauseyourparentswerepartofadivineplan.Doesthatsoundrealistictoyou?Kim:Well,ifyoureallylookbackonitnow,aspartofhistory.Thefactthatmydadreportedtheflyingsaucers––youcanclearlylookatit.Firstofall,Idonotbelievethatwhathesawwereevilornegative.Ijustdonotbelievethatbecausereally,whatitdid…mydad’ssighting…youunderstandnowthatitopenedupthewindowsofourhumanmindstobelievingintherealpossibilitiesofotherdimensionsor“OtherWorlds.”Soitwasabrand-newconceptforourworldtodigest.Becausemyfatherhadthecouragetostandupandtellthetruthheliterallychangedhumanthinkinginaverypositiveway.AndIbelievewholeheartedly,thathissightingwaspartofaplanbyourDivineCreatortointroducethisnewconcept…Imean,there’snodoubtinmymindthatitwas.Everyoneshouldbeabletoseethatnow…somanyyearslater.Itnowhasbeensixtyfouryearssincehissightingoftheflyingsaucers.Paola:Well,that’swhatitseemslike,thatitwasadivineplan.But,itdidturnyourfamilylifeupsidedown.Yoursisters,yourfamily,yourfatherandmother.Doyourememberanyparticulardiscussionsanyofyouhadoverthisturmoil?Afteryouwerebornandyouwerepartofthisfamily,thatitwaspartofyoureverydaylife?Kim:Youknow,earlieryouaskedifmyfatherhadmetDr.AllenHynek.Iremember,Paola,yousaidyouonceworkedforhimmanyyearsago.ThefactremainsthatthegovernmentwasdeadsetondebunkingUFOsightings,asweallwellknow.Thefactremainsthatthegovernmentwaseventryingtodiscreditpilotswhoreportedseeingsuchthings.Itwassimplyridiculous.Becausemyfatherknewasaprofessionalpilotthatthesethingswererealandalotofreputablepilotsreallysawthesethings,anditwasn’trightthatthese(mydadwouldsay)thepowerstobeweresayingnegativethingsaboutpilotsreportingflyingsaucers.Myfatherwouldrantandravearoundthehouseexpoundinghowcouldtheseidiotssaythesethingsaboutrespectablepilots?Pilotswereresponsibleandrespectablemen.People’slivesdependontheirabilitytodotheirjob.And,hesimplylostitwhenDr.HyneksaidflyingsaucersorUFOsweresomekindof“swampgas.”Ilistenedtomyfather’sangryrantingandravingaboutDr.Hynek’sridiculoustheoryofswampgasforhours.Iwasprettyyoungthen,butasweallknow,Dr.Hynekquitworkingforthegovernmentandbecamearealistandsensibleinvestigatoronthesubject.Paola:Well,youknow,you’reabsolutelyright.Hewasn’ttheonlyone.TherewerealotofpeoplewhowereangrywithHynekbecauseHynekwashiredtodebunkbutthenhechangedhismind,andhedidworkinhisowngroupintheCenterforUFOStudiesinEvanston,Illinois.AndhewasalsoresponsibleforconsultingonthefilmCloseEncountersoftheThirdKindwithSpielberg,soIthinkhekindofsavedhimselfthereattheend.SoIunderstandwhereyourdadwascomingfromandhewasabsolutelyrightbecauseheknewwhathesaw.Kim:Well,nowyou’vebroughtupCloseEncountersoftheThirdKind.Andthat’sokaybecauseI’vereadallyourbooks,andIthought,youalwaysbroughtupCloseEncountersoftheThirdKind,andthatwasanotherbigdiscussionatourhouse.Myfatherjustabsolutelycouldnotbelievehowtheyjustcreated

thatmovieandtheydidn’tevencontacthim,askwhathadhappenedtohimoranything.Mymotherandfathertalkedaboutitquiteopenlythatneitheroneofthemcouldbelievenoonereallycaredabouttherealstoryofwhatreallyhappenedandhowitreallydidbegin.ItreallybeganonJune24,1947withmyfather’ssighting.Paola:Well,that’sinterestingtohear.Sohethoughtheshouldhavebeenaskedtobeaconsultantonthemovie,becausehesawwhathesaw?Kim:Yes.Ofcoursehesawwhathesaw.Henevermadeanymajormoneyonhisexperienceofseeingflyingsaucers.Heactuallyreferredtohimselfastheunfortunategoatthathappenedtoreportthethings.Heneverinhiswildestimaginationcouldhaveeverbelievedthattheywouldbesomethingthatcouldnotbeexplainedinaphysicalsense.Hehadnoideaofwhathehadreallygottenhimselfinto.Paola:Imeanbecausehesawsomething,hethoughtheshouldhavebeenaskedabouthispersonalexperiencetohelpwiththedetailsinthemovie?Kim:Hewasconfusedaboutnotbeingconsulted.Afterall,themoviedepictedinaway,theactor,RichardDreyfushavingthesametypeofexperienceasmyfatherdid.Insomerespectsthemoviemirroredalittlebitofthehysteriainourhouse.Imean,itdid.Youknowitwasn’tourrealfamilystory.Itdidnotreflectallthethingsthatreallyhappenedtomyfatherorourfamily.Hedidhaveanairbrushdrawingdoneoftheflyingsaucertodocumentwhathehadseen.Hedidgooutandbuyamoviecameraandwascertainifheeversawanythingagain,hewasgoingtogetitdocumentedoncamera––toprovetoeveryonethatthesethingsdidexist…andhehadsomeonecreateahangingmobilemadewithhandcarvedwoodenflyingsaucersthathunginhisofficeinthebasementofourhomeat7717UstickRoadinthe1960s.Paola:Amobile.Kim:Amobile,yes.Idon’tknowwhocarvedthewoodenflyingsaucers,buttheywerecoollooking,paintedinsilverandblue.Idon’tknowwhohehadmakethismobile,butnowthatIrememberit,itwaskindofcoollooking.Theflyingsaucermobile.Ihadforgottenaboutit.Paola:Itwaspartofyourlife.Imean,itwaspartofyoureverydaylife.So,inotherwords,ifyouhadtosaysomethingtovindicateyourdadinaway,ifyouwantedtomakeastatementaboutKennethArnold,whatwouldyoutellthegeneralpublic?Kim:WhatwouldItellthegeneralpublic?Hewasacommonmanwhostruggledwithbasiceverydayproblemsofmakingaliving,providingfood,shelterandclothingforhisfamily.Hewasborn,lived,anddiedlikeanyotherhumanbeing.Hewasasurvivor,amanofintegrity,ofgreatcourageandconviction.Astrong-willedmanwhohadprinciplesandmorals.Aman’sman,peoplelookeduptohimandadmiredhim.Hediedanaturaldeathlikeanyoneelse––strugglingwiththefearandfactthathewasgoingtodiefromcancer.Paola:Verylogical.Andsomethingextraordinaryhappenedtohimthatchangedhisworldview.Kim:Well,completely.Myparentswereveryintellectualandfascinatingpeople.Theywereadvancedthinkersbecauseofmyfather’ssightingofflyingsaucers.Theywereuniquepeople,youknow.Theytalkedaboutinterestingthingsanditwasaprivilegetohavehadthemasmyparents.Iholdthememoriesoftheminthecenterofmysacredheart.Iwillalwayslovethemdearlyandmissthemfortherestofmylife.Imissthemosttheirinterestingconversations.Paola:Okay.Sotheypassedsomeofthisdowntoyou.It’snotanaccidentthatweconnectedandit’snotanaccidentthatit’scomingtimetotalkaboutthis.So,justageneralideathat“wearenotalone.”Howdoesthataffectyouinyourlife?Isitsomethingyouthinkabout,thatyouwishaproperdocumentarycould

bemade?Kim:Okay.ThisishowIfeelaboutit.MydadgotinvolvedwithatelevisioncompanyfromLondon,Englandyearsagoandtheydidsomekindofadocumentaryfilm,aNovaseriesorsomething,andhewasextremelydiscouragedabouthowhewasrepresented,howtheyeditedandfinalizedtheproduct.IguessmyhopewouldbethatIwouldfindaprofessionalwherewecouldcollaborateonagoodproductsothatitwouldbesomethingmyfatherwouldbeproudof.Somethingthatwouldrepresenthimintheproperlightandbehistoricallyaccurate,butitwouldbetheproperwaytopreservehismemory.Yes,butIdon’tfeellikejustsellinghislegacyformoney,justmoneyjustlettingitgowithoutahigherpurpose.Becausemyfatherdedicatedhisentirelifetopreservingthisstory,makingsureitwascorrectandaccurate,andIfeeloutofdedicationandhonortohismemorythatitneedstobedoneproperly.Iwanttobeapartofthat,Iwanttobeintheeditingroom,knowingthatwhatisbeingfinalizedisdonetohonorhisroleinhumanhistory.Paola:That’sperfect.Iagree.Doyouthinkit’samatteroftiming?Doyouthinkthatmaybethetimeisrightforthis?Kim:Idon’tknowforsurethatthetimingisright.Idoknowthat,basically,Iam57years-oldandreally,somethingverypositiveandproductiveneedstobedonewithmyfather’slegacytomankindusingallhishistoricalmaterials.Paola:Okay.Youhavehomemoviesandyouhaveclippings.Doyouhavewritingsthatyourfatherdid…youknow,wherehescribbleddownideasandsoforth?ForinstancetherewerenineUFOs,weren’tthere?Kim:Yes,therewerenine.Ihavewhatisleftofmyfather’sfilesandarchives.Iwastheexecutorofmyparents’estate.Paola:Becausehewouldhavehadtocountthem.Kim:Yes,therewerenine.Andactuallyastheyflewinflight,theydidn’talllookthesameatall.Sometimestheylookedlikecircles,sometimestheylookedlikelines.Theywereveryintriguingintheirflightpatterns.Itwasthesecondtothelastonethatcameuptohimandthat’stheonethat’ssofamous,thatparticularflyingsaucerorUFOistheonehehadanairbrushdrawingmadeof.Itwasthesecondfromthelastintheformationofnine.Hesawthefirstfourandthenthenextfivefollowed.Paola:Thesecondtothelastcameuptohimanddidhehaveareactionoranykindofmessageoranykindofpsychicconnectionwithit?Kim:No,notthatIamawareof.But,Idobelievethatitispossiblethatthebrilliantwhitelightpulsatingfromthecenteroftheirsurfaces…that’sanotherveryinterestingthing.Theypulsatedwithblue-whitelightfromthecenteroftheirsurfacessimilartotherhythmandbeatingofourownhumanhearts.Sothereyouhaveit.Thatiswhymyfatherbelievedtheywerealive,absolutely.Itwasthisrealitythatthepulsatinglightfromthecenteroftheirsurfaceswassimilartothebeatingofourhumanhearts.Paola:Thatissointeresting.I’veneverheardthatbefore.Kim:No,that’soneofthehiddensecretsI’vegotoverhereinallthefiles.Yes.Paola:That’sinteresting.Kim:Similartothebeatingofourownhumanhearts.Paola:Sohethoughttheywerealive.Kim:Ofcoursehedid.Absolutely.110%.Yes.Theywerenotmechanicalinanysenseatall.Andtheotherthingthatwasintriguingabouthimisthathesawflyingsaucers,hetoldajournalist,atleasteight

timesinhislife.Idonotthinkallhissightingsweredocumented,butitisinterestingthathesaidthathesawthemeighttimes.Someofthemthey’vetrackeddownhereandthere.Butthemostimportantsightingwashisfirstsightingandthenhiseighthsighting,andinhiseighthsighting,twooftheflyingsaucerswentunderhisairplaneandonewasassolidasaChevroletcarandtheotheronehecouldseethroughthecenterofit.Thisconvincedhimthattheyhadtheabilitytochangetheirdensity.Hedescribeditoncetryingtojustifythisuniqueability––likejellyfishintheoceans.Howtheycanlooksosolidthenturnsoinvisible.So,ifyoureallywanttoknowhowIfeelaboutthisorhowIthinkaboutthis,isthattheflyingsaucershesawonJune24,1947,itwasastagedperformance.BecausetheywereactingliketheyweretraversingclosetothetopsoftheCascadeMountains,theygavemyfathertheimpressionthattheyweresolidandphysical.But,Ithinktherealitywasthattheycouldhavechangedtheirdensityandgonerightthroughthemountains.Ibelievetheflyingsaucerswereonsometypeofmission,tointroducethisnewconceptintohumanitybyputtingonthisspectacularshowformyfather.Paola:That’sreallyinteresting.Ididn’trealizehehadeightsightings.What’sthedateofthat,doyouknow?Kim:Inaninterviewhedidin1981,hesaidthissightingwasin1952nearSusanville,California.Paola:Didhereporttheeighthsighting,too?Kim:No,Idonotbelieveso.Ithinkthathejusttoldittojournalists.Paola:So,itwashiseighthsightingthatgavehimthisconceptaboutdensity?Kim:Hestartedthinkingaboutit.Itwaskindoflikeitwasjustabigperformance.Itisdefinitelyfoodforthought.Paola:Andthattheywereperforming?Kim:Theycouldhavechangedtheirdensity.Itismyowntheory.IbelievetheywereputtingonashowjustforKennethArnold,sohecouldtelleverybody,thatoh,yes,they’rerealandphysical.But,theyhadasecret.Theycouldreallychangetheirdensityandbecomecompletelyinvisible;theywerefromanotherdimension.Paola:Well,Ihopethatyoucanfindsomeoftheothersightingsyourfatherhad.Ihopehedocumentedthese,too.Kim:There’sonemoresightingIknowofrightnow.Itisinhisbook,TheComingoftheSaucers.ThatparticularsightingwasonJuly29,1947whenmyfatherwasflyingovertheLaGrandeValley.Hesawabouttwentytotwenty-five,brass-coloredobjectsthatflewinaclusterlikeblackbirds,thatwheeledonedge,flippingastheyflew.Idonotbelievethiswasaverylongsightinginthenumberofminutes,butveryshort.Hestillwasamazedthathesawthese,too.Paola:Didheevertakeanypictures?Kim:Oh,youknowwhat.Ithinkinallthestuff,therewasonetimehebelievedthathegotsomeonfilm.HesentitofftoMilitaryIntelligenceandtheycutitout,sentitbacktohimandsaidtherewasnothingthere.Hewasreallyupsetaboutthis.Paola:Well,let’sendwiththisquestion:washeeverthreatened?Washeafraid?Washenervous?Washetoldnottotalk?Kim:Yes,that’swhyIhaven’ttalkedbeforenowbecausemymothertoldmethe“secretscarystory”whenIwasjustayounggirl.Shesaidthatmydadthoughtafterhehadhissightingoftheflyingsaucersthathefeltheshouldbeapublicspeakeronthesubject––educatingpeopleaboutthetruth.Hebelievedhehadhadthisexperienceforareason.HewasscheduledtospeakfortheKnifeandForkClubonits

lecturecircuitat$100aday.Heevenprinteduphisownbooklet,TheFlyingSaucerAsISawIt,whichheplannedtouseasaprogramguideforhisspeech.Anyway,aletterarrivedfromtheKnifeandForkClubwithdrawingtheiroffertohim.Thefamilysecretbeginshere.Idonotknowwhoitwas…Ihaveforgotten.But,mymothersaidthismancameouttotheirhouseshortlyafterthisletter.HedrovemyfatheroutintotheBoisedeserttovisitwithhimprivatelyandsecretly.Hetoldmyfatherthathisbrotherworkedforthegovernmentandthathehadseenthegovernmenteliminateitsownmen.Hetoldmyfatherthatthesegovernmentmenwereseriousanddangerouspeopleandheshouldnotgoagainsttheirdemandthathenottalkabouttheflyingsaucers.Hewasnottocontinuetodospeechesonthissubjectandhehadbettertakethisseriously.Myparentsbothconsideredthisathreatontheirboththeirlives.And,ofcoursemymotherandmydad,trulyIthink,feltthreatenedfortherestoftheirlives.So,Iguessthatwouldbeoneofthereasonshebecamekindofarecluseandrefusedtogoanywhereandtalkaboutitoranything.Ievenhavealetterinmyfileswritteninmymother’sownhandwritingstatingherfearthatiftheywenttoaUFOconventioninMexico,theirplanemightbeshotdownandbothofthemkilled.Now,lookingbackonthisletter,mymotherneverdidgetoverbeingthreatenedbythegovernment.Ireallynevergotoverhertellingmethisscarystory.Ifitwasn’tforyou,Paola,andmakingmerealizethatitwasanumberofyearsago…Ihavefinallybeenabletoputthisintotheproperperspective.Allthegovernmentmenwhothreatenedourfamilyyearsagoaresimplygone.Buriedanddead.Thiskindoffearhasawayofnevergoingaway.Paola:Okay,wellyouknow,you’vetoldusquiteabitthatIdidn’tevenknowaboutyourdad’sothersightingsandofyourlife.But,okay,tofinishupthisinterview,again,ifyouhadtosaysomethingtothegeneralpublic;ifyou,KimArnold,afteralltheseyearshaveanopportunitytotalk,torepresentyourdadandyourmomandyourfamily,whatwoulditbe?Whatwouldyousaytotheyoungpeopleoftheworld?Howdoyoureallyfeelaboutthis?Kim:Well,Ireallydobelievethatwearelivinginaverydangerousworld.Ibelievethatitishighlypossiblethathydrogenbombscouldpossiblybeusedinthefutureofhumanity.AndactuallywhatIwouldliketosaytoeverybodyisthefactthatIbelievethatatthetimeofhumandeaththatwhatwedoissimplychangeformandretainourtrueidentity.Ibelieve,likemyparents,thathumandeathisnotreallytheend,butthatitisafactthatweactuallyliveoninto“OtherWorlds.”And,likemyparentsbelieved,Ithinkthattheseworldsaremultidimensional,andmuchmorespectacularthananythingwe’veeverbelievedhumanlypossible.Itreallyisn’tthatboringandthereareallkindsofactivitiesgoingon,similartotheworldwherewenowlive.Paola:Soyouthinkthatweliveinamulti-inhabiteduniverse?Kim:Oh,ofcourse,absolutely.But,it’snotjustaboutbeinginphysicalformfortheshorttimethatweinhabitthesetemporarybodiesbecause,itisafact:wediscardthesebodieslikeoldcoats.Whetherwediefromcancer,planecrashesoroldage,ordieintimeofwars,weactuallymoveonandliveindimensionsofotherworlds.Andyes,it’ssimplyanewbeginningandanever-endingstory.Paola:SotheUFOphenomenon,foryou,ispartofthisnormalmysteryorthisparanormalmystery?Kim:Yes,andIthinkthatmyfatherislinkedinhumandestinyinaverypowerfulwaytoRobertOppenheimer,becauseRobertOppenheimerwasknownasthefatheroftheatomicbombandmydadisknownasthefatherofthemoderneraofUFOs,andIbelievethattheyarelinkedinatimeframeofdestinytooffseteachother.Thatitwillnotbetheendiftheseweaponsareeverused,butpartofaspiritualplanbyourCreatortospiralusintohigherdimensionsofethericworldscreatedbyourDivineCreator.

Pictured:KimArnoldandKennethArnold,courtesyKimArnold.

Paola:Well,thankyou,Kim,becausewhatyou’vedoneisgiveamessageofhopeandthat’ssomethingthatIthinktheworldneedsrightnow.Kim:Well,Paola,Idon’tmeantosoundlikethebearerofbadnews,butthetruthofthematteriswearelivinginaveryphysicalworldanditisafactthattheseweaponsexist.AlbertEinsteinsaidinanewspaperarticleIfoundinallmyfather’sclippings(hegluedontobigscrapsofyellowconstructionpaper)––itwasdatedApril24,1950––Mr.Einsteinsaidthatanatomicwarwasinevitableunlessaworldgovernmentwasestablishedimmediatelyandthatthiskindofwarcouldwipeouttwothirdsofthepeopleonearth.Ireadthisandthought,Really?What?Iwasshocked,andthetruthofthematteris,allofuscommonpeoplejustdonothaveaclueastowhatourgovernmentshavebeendoing.Wearealljusttoobusytryingtomakealivingtopayourbillsandsupportourfamilies.Governmentsjustlookatuscommonpeoplelikewearenumbersandvitalstatisticstheystoreinsomecomputerfile.

AVictoryforUFODisclosure:InterviewwithCliffordStoneTheyear2011wasapivotaloneformebecauseIrealizedadream:thatofsponsoringtheCliffordStonebiography.DuringatriptoRoswellwithaclosefriendandresearcherTomHamlin,wewereabletoobtaindocumentstosupportSgt.CliffordStone’sclaimthathewasanessentialplayerincrashretrieval.Thebook,EyesOnly:TheStoryofCliffordStoneandUFOCrashRetrievalsisexcellentandquitecompelling.Itbelongsinthelibraryofeveryseriousresearcher.

ExcerptfromEyesOnly:TheStoryofCliffordStoneandUFOCrashRetrievalsInterviewbyPaolaHarrisRoswell,NewMexicoOctober2,2011CS(CliffordStone)PH(PaolaHarris)CS:Duringmyarmycareer,IwasoftenclassifiedasbeingTD,ontemporarydutyPH:Whatistemporaryduty?

CS:Youcannotexceedtemporarydutymorethan179days.InMoondust,everysixmonths,neworderswereissued,called“hippocketorders,”becauseyou’dhaveacopyrightthere.Anyoneandeveryonewouldprovideyouwithanythingyouneededtogetthatjobdone.HippocketorderswereissuedtopeoplewhowereinvolvedinProjectsMoondustandBlueFly.PH:Likeyou.CS:Yes.AlsoNEST,NuclearEmergencyResponseTeams.PH:SothisFortLeedocumentshowsthatyouweredoingsomethingduringthisfourteen-dayperiod?CS:No,itshowsthatIwasdoingsomethingfortheyearandmonththatIwasthereandthatIwasnotatFortMcCallum,Alabamaforayear.IwenttoFortMcCallumwhileIwasstationedatFortLee,Virginia,ontemporarydutyforthreeweekstotaketheNon-CommissionedOfficercourse.PH:Thisotherstuffhappenedinthatyear,fromDecember1968toJanuary1970?Doyouhaveanythingotherthanthatonedocumentthatprovesyouwerethere?CS:Theygavemeadiploma,butthatwaslostyearsago.Myparentssplitup,andalotwaslostwhentheysoldthehome.PH:Whatwouldbethealieninterfacecleanup,orcrashretrievalcleanup,becalled?CS:NuclearBiologicalandChemicalwarfare(NBCunit),sameasformundanecleanup.Youdon’treinventthewheel.PH:Arebiologicalandnuclearsubstancesinvolved?CS:Theycouldbe.Someofthecraftuseanti-matterfortheirengines,butsomeusethingsthatwecan’tevenunderstand.There’stotalannihilationofenergy,andasaresult,thereisresidualbackgroundradiationthatcanbepickeduponaGeigercounter.Thirtytoforty-fiveminuteslater,it’snolongerbeingpickedup.Iftheyhavemechanicalproblemsandtheirnuclearcollidercausesareactionwiththeanti-matter,ifitmessesupyoumayhavedirtydebris,whichisn’thighlyradioactivebutcouldcausecellulardisruptionandcouldbehazardous.

Pictured:ThedocumentstatingthatCliffordStonewastrainedandisanexpertinNuclearBiologicalandChemicalwarfare(NBCunit)cleanup.

PH:Didyoueverseeangelhairorburntfiberoptics?CS:Yes,itwaslikeamassivespidercobwebonlynotsticky.Itwaspurewhite,andI’vehelditinmyhand––althoughnotfortoolongbecauseitwilldisperse.PH:Wasitinthedamagedpartofthecraft?CS:Wesawitintheopen.Sometimes,ifacraftwashavingmechanicalproblems,theremightbeafallofthissubstance.PH:TherewasasightingofangelhairoverasoccerstadiuminItaly,anditwasanalyzedandfoundtocontainglassandsand.ThesoccerteamstoppedandwatchedtheUFO.CS:Ifyouremembertoputitintoatube,itwilleventuallyturnintoagas.Ifyoutasteit,itwillmakeyousick,butthere’snotaste.Itlookslikecottoncandy,thoughit’snotsticky.Wehadpeoplein1989whowereseeingtheentities,theyweretenfeettall––PH:Wherewereyou?CS:InGermany,buttheSovietUnionwashavingreportsoften-foottallpeople.Theyhadhundredsofpeoplewhosawthese,andtheentitieswouldfloatoverfences.Thewholesituationisthatnoonehad

everheardanythinglikethis.InSeptember1952,didyoueverhearoftheFlatwoodsWestVirginiamonster?Thiswasthesamething.Also,someofthereportswereveryreminiscentoftheMothman,whichwasalsosimilartotheFlatwoodsMonster.Andtherewerepeoplewhodidgetsickasaresultofbeingsprayedbysomethingbythesecreatures,evenintheSovietUnion.PH:Didyoureadthesereports,orwerethesetalkedabout?CS:IactuallygottogototheSovietUnion.Therewasa501Intelligencebattalionthatwasthere,andweworkedwiththeSovietUniononthat.PH:DidyouhaveanyopportunitytotalktotheSovietsaboutthis?CS:Yes,oneladytherewhomI’llcallKathy.Shewasprobablyabductedasakidbutshealwaysreferredtoitasadream.Iaskedherwhetheritreallyhappenedandshesaidshefeltmorecomfortablecallingitadream.Whenitcametimeformetogohome,sheaskedmewhethersheshouldtellthemwhathadhappenedtoherinherlife.Isaid,no,ifyoutellthem,alotofbadthingswillhappenthatyoudon’twant.Idon’tthinkyou’rereallyreadytogothroughwhathappenstoapersonthattheythinktheycanutilize.PH:Butthere’ssomecoincidencethatshewasworkinginIntelligence.CS:It’sbecauseshehadthesmartstodothejob,andshehappenedtobeassignedtomeasmyinterpreter.Itwasn’tbecausetheyhadrecognizedanythingspecialaboutheroranylatentspecialtyshemighthave,whichwasagoodthingbecauseshewouldn’tbeaninterpreter.HermissionwastointerpretfromRussianwhatwasbeingsaidandtotranslatemywordsintoRussian.PH:IsGlobalHorizonaprogramlikeMoondustorBlueFly?CS:MoondustandBlueFlyarejustwords.PH:Thesearevocabularywordsforwhat?Aretheyprograms?CS:Yes,wehaveProjectMoondustwhichistheprojecttorecoverobjectsThisprogramdifferentiateswhetheritisofterrestrialorigin,offoreignorigin,orextraterrestrialorigin.RoundRobinmeansthespacecraftofanotherearthlyforeignpower.GlobalHorizonhastodowithsomethingthatdidnotoriginateonplanetEarthbutisartificialandsurvivedimpactontoplanetEarth.PH:Youwerethere,youdidthis,yetyouhavetogobackandprovewhatyouweredoing,youhavetofindthedocumentation.CS:Youknow,AndyRooneyhadasaying,Peoplewillacceptthefacts,butonlyifthefactsfitinwithwhattheyalreadybelieve.PeoplehavebeeninvolvedinUFOsituations,maybeonlyonetime,butitaffectsyoufortherestofyourlife.Noone’sabelieveruntiltheyhaveanexperience.Mostpeoplewhodo,itwillgotothebackoftheirsubconsciousandwillonlybebroughtupwhensomeoneasksaboutUFOs.Mostofus,itdoesn’thavearealdramaticeffectonourlives.Butsomeonewhohasanincidentofhighstrangeness,itaffectstherestoftheirlife.Andtherearetensofthousandsofpeoplenowinthissituation.Itaffectshowtheyinteractwiththeirfriends,theirfamilies,andtheirco-workers.Theintentingettingthisstuffoutissotheycansay,“Thisiswhathappenedtome,andI’mnotalone.”Sometimesit’sjustaninterestingstory,butitcanalsohelpotherswhoaregoingdownthatpath.PH:Itellpeoplethatyouareaguywhoisnotintoego,youareinterestedinhelpingotherpeoplewhohavebeengo-betweensbetweenhumansandaliens.Youwanttohelpthemunderstandwhattheirlivesarelikebecauseofwhatyouarelike.You’reconnectedwithhumanity,otherwiseyouwouldn’tgiveadarn.TherewasastoryyoutoldmeaboutabombercomingdowninVietNam,butIdidn’trealizeallthepeopleonthebomberweredead.

CS:Itwasn’tbecauseofanETdestroyingit,butIdothinkETshadsomethingtodowithsettingitdown.PH:Therewasn’tanythingwrongwiththebomber,right?CS:Ithaddamagethatwouldbeconsistentwiththeattemptsbyanti-aircraftcrewstobringitdown,withmissilesthattheywerenotsupposedtohave.Nowagain,therewerealotofthingsthatweknewaboutthatwedidn’ttelltheAmericanpublic,toensurethatthewardidn’tescalate.TheRussiansandtheRedChinesewerehelpingtheVietnameseatthattime,withverysophisticatedairdefensesystemswhichallowedthemtobringdownsomeofouraircraft.PH:Thefirsttimeyouwentoverthere,wereyoufightingasaregularsoldierordidyouknowtheyweregoingtouseyouinthisway?CS:Thefirsttime,Ididn’tevenknowIwasinVietNam.PH:Wheredidyouthinkyouwere?CS:Theydidn’ttellus.Wegotonaplane,wegotoff,theydidn’ttellusanything.Wehadtogiveupourdogtags.TherewassupposedtobenoAmericaninvolvement.Wewerenottobeidentified.Ifsomethinghappenedthere,youweren’tthere.Whenwewentthere,weknewtherewassomethingstrangeabouttheaircraft.Therewerecertainpeopletherewhohadtodocertainthingswithit,andweweregoingtoextractit.Itshouldhavebeeninahundredthousandpieceswhenitcrashed,butitwaslikeagianthandjustsetitdown.Itwascutintothreepiecesandthewingswerecutoff.Theyusedthosegiantcranes,weird-lookinghelicoptersthatcouldmovealotofcargo.Theyhadaboxcarunderneaththem,andtheycouldmovethatboxcarandjusthavethecraneconnectedwithit.That’swhattheyusedtoremovethataircraft,becausetheywantedtogooverthataircraftwithafine-toothedcomb.PH:SothiswasastrangeaircraftthattheUSgovernmentwantedtostudy.CS:Itwasn’tastrangeaircraft,itwasaB-52,butitwasstrangethatitwentdowninsofewpieces.Thedamagethatwasdonewaslikeasmallmissile.PH:Soyouwerepartofthegroupthatwenttoinvestigatethatin1969,andtheymadeyoutakeoffallyourchevronsandeverything,right?CS:Yes.PH:Theydidn’ttellyouaheadoftimewhereyouweregoing?CS:No,theydidn’ttellus.PH:DidyouleavefromGermany?CS:No,weleftfromtheUnitedStates.TheytoldusweweregoingtoFloridaonatrainingexercise.Oneguy,whogotofftheaircraftwhenwerefueled--thiswasnormalprocedureforatrainingexercise,thoughthistimeweweretoldtostayontheaircraft--thisoneguygotoffandlookedaroundandsaid,“Ifthisisn’tOakland,I’llkissyourhindside.”AtwhichpointtheColonelpulledouthis.45andsaid,“Thenextpersonthatopenstheirmouthwillbecomeanon-issuebecauseIwillnothesitatetoshoot.Youwillbebriefedwhenweareairborneagain.”PH:Isthisthesamecolonelyoumetwhenyouwerenineteen?CS:Yes.PH:Sothiscoloneltookyouunderhiswingwhenyouwerenineteenuntilyoudidwhateverwasyourlastjob,andhewasincharge,youbelieve,oftheETreality?CS:Hewasoneofthetoppeople.Hewasalwaysthere,andIthinkhewasassigneddirectlytome.

PH:Whendidyouseehimforthefirsttime?CS:In1969,Iwaseighteenornineteenyearsold.In1968,IwentintoFortJackson,SouthCarolinaandIwasexposedtoallthepicturesandeverything.IknewtherewasTopSecret,butIdidn’tknowitwasallthis.PH:WasitCosmicTopSecret?CS:Cosmicisthehighest,SDIisSensitiveDepartmentInformation.Itwastoensurethatonlypeoplewithastrictneed-to-knowwouldeverseethesedocumentsandphotographs.PH:Photosofwhat?CS:Craft,andentities.PH:Thatmusthaveblownyourmind,seeingphotosofentities.CS:ButIdidn’treallyknowwhatIwasseeing,whethertheywerereal,whetheritwasatest…IdidknowforafactthatIwasn’tsupposedtoseeit,becauseIknewIdidn’thavetheproperclearance.PH:JustaquickquestionbeforewegobacktoVietNam,Whenwasthelasttimeyousawthiscolonel?CS:ProbablyacoupleyearsafterIgotoutofthemilitary.PH:DidyouyearfromhimbeforeorafterRobertdied?CS:Igotacallfromhimwhenmysondied.Therewasabigconcernthen,andabigcoverupconcerningthedeathofmyson.ButIbelievethatwasmoretodowithtryingtoprotectthewomanwhohitmyson,andshetoldthetruthaboutit,buttheyhadtobringinacrisismanagementteambecausetheythoughttherewerealotofpeoplewhowouldneedassistance.Thepersonwhowasheadofthemotorvehicledepartmentatthattimesaidthecarwasrightthereandthereweretwopickuptrucks.Iwasthefirstofanykindoflawenforcementthereonthescene.PH:Thepickuptrucksweresuspect?CS:Theystoppedthecar.PH:Doyouthinkitwasprogrammed?CS:No,Ithinkthewomanactuallyaccidentallyhitmyson.But,whenIwenttotellmywifewhathadhappened,thepoliceofficersstatedthatanAPBhadbeenputoutandtheywerelookingforasmallbluepickuptruckwiththreeyoungmalesinit.Atthattimethestorywasgettingoutthatsomebodyhadtakenastickwithanailinitandhadputitthroughthespokestomakethemotorcyclecrash,butthatiscompletelyuntrue.IknowforafactthatinVietNamyouwouldhavepolitally-sanctionedassassinations.Oneofthewaysyouwoulddothat,becausealotofpeopledrovemotorcyclesoverthere,wastoputastickinsidethespokeswhenyoustopataredlight.Whenthelightchangesandpeoplestartdrivingoff.Thetiresrotateanditpushesitin,thenbreaks.Ifthere’sanailinthere,itpenetratesthetireandthebikewillgodown.Ifyou’veeverseenpicturesoftrafficinVietNam,it’sbumpertobumperandariderwillgethitmanytimesbeforemostpeopleevenknowthebikewentdown.That’swhatIimaginedhappeninghere,butitdidn’thappen.

Pictured:PaolaHarrisinterviewsCliffordStoneattheConsciousLifeExpo,LosAngeles,California.PH:Whenyouguysgotofftheplane,afterbeingwarnedbythecolonelnottotalk,youwereallquiet?CS:Afterwefueledupandtookoff,theygaveustheinformationaboutgoingontherecoveryofaUSaircraftthathadgonedowninacountrythatwasnotfriendlytotheUS.Alotofuswerewonderingwhatwewereneededfor,buttheyindicatedthatthiswasaspecialaircraft.Onepersonaskedwhatwassospecial,andwastoldthatwe’dfindoutwhenwegotthere.Theysaidbecauseofthesensitivityofthemission,everybodyhadtotakeeverypersonalitemoutofourpocketsandputthemallinplasticbags,thesizeofasandwichbag.Welabeledthemwithournamesandourranks,andthebagsstayedontheaircraft.Itwasacommercialaircraft,notmilitary,andweweresupposedtoreturnonthatsameaircraft.PH:Arewetalkingaboutthearmy,ortheairforce,oraroguegroup?CS:AsfarasIknow,thosethreefolksthatweretherewerenotpartofthearmy,navy,airforce,butwerepartofthesmallnucleusthatcontrolledthis.PH:Whenyougotoff,whatdidyousee?Howdidtheentitiescometoyou?CS:Welandedatanairbase,anditwasalldark.Isawbonfires,andeverythingelsewaspitchblack.Webegantobankforlanding,andIsawthelandinglights.WhenwelandeditwasobviousthatwewereinanAsiancountry,butwedidn’tknowwhich.Therewasachopperwaitingforus,andweboardedandtookoff.Anotherhelicoptertookoffwithus.Therewasalittlecampwhereweweresupposedtostayuntilwefinishedthejob.Wewalkedaboutfivemilesfromthehelicopterlandingtoreachthecraft,andbythattimeitwasbeginningtogetlight.Isawthecraft,anditwasthefirsttimeIhadseenaB-52upclose,andIhadalwaysthoughttheywerebigger.Iwalkedaroundthecraft,andwhenIreachedtheback,someofthesegreyentitiescame.PH:Thesearen’ttheguysyoudescribedonce…CS:LikethePillsburydoughboy,withspindlyarmsandlegs.About3-4feethigh.IhadmyM-16slungdown,andtheycameoutandsaidmyname.Theypronounceditlike“Clif-for-ard.”TheyaskedwhatIwasdoingthere,sayingIwasnotsupposedtobethere.PH:Whatdidyoudo?CS:Ifreakedout.Icalledout,“VC!”Wehadnowayofknowingwherewewere,thoughlaterIfoundoutwewereinCambodia,andIstartedshooting.IwantedthemtobeVietCong.Thebulletshadnoeffect.Theyfollowedusaboutaquarterofamiletoastream,wheretheColonelhadtentssetup.Therewere

peopletherewhohadneverseenAmericansbefore,whospokenoEnglish.PH:Didyouseetheentitiesagain?CS:No.TheykeptsayingIwasn’tsupposedtobethere.Thegovernmentwantedmeinthemilitary,workingwithUFOs.TheETsknewthiswouldhappen.PH:DoyoufeelthattheseETswerehostile?CS:No.PH:Whatdoyouthinktheyweredoingthere?CS:Ithinktheywereconcernedandcheckingtoseewhatweweredoing.Theydon’thaveaconceptofwar,andtheycan’tunderstandwhy,ifwearerationalandintelligentbeings,wewoulddothis.Theyhavealwaysbeenhere,andhavealwayshadinteractionwithhumans.Today,thatinteractionisverydangerousandmustbekepttoaverylimitedscale.PH:Becausethey’reconcernedthathumanswilldowhatyoudid,takeouttheirriflesandstartshooting.CS:Wewillabsolutelydothat.It’sthehumanreaction.Wereactviolentlyandhostileagainsttheunknown.Ihadhadcontactbefore,butinthecircumstancesthatIwasin––whywasIcallingout“VC”?ThatwastheonlypointofreferencethatIhad.PH:Doyouthinktheybroughtthatplanedown?CS:Ithinktheyhaditsetdownsotheycouldsurveythedamage.TheyhadalreadyseenWorldWarII,butnowweweredoingthingsdifferently.Remember,mostB-52swerecarryingnuclearweaponsatthattime.PH:Tellmeaboutthecaveyousaw,thattheinsidewastransparent.CS:Thatwasoneofthemoresignificantincidents.Whenwewereinside,wecouldseeout,andwe’dlaughbecauseyoucouldseethemdiginanditwasjustlikeair.ThatwasafterIhadalreadygottentoVietNam,andweweregoingintothiscave––wesawourpeopleoutside,likeasearch&destroyteam.ThatwasalsocontrolledmostofthetimebytheNSA.Onesideofthecavewaslikeabigscreenandwecouldseethemwalking.Itwasstrange,butitwasplausibletous.WethoughtitwasCommunisttechnology.TherewererumorsthattheCommunistswereplanningtousebubonicplagueasaweaponagainstus,andwethoughtmaybethiswaswhatwewerelookingfor.Lessthanahundredfeetintothecavewehadaradiothatcouldn’tevengetstatic.Wehadarunnerfromthere,sowecouldstillcommunicate.Wegottothisonebigopeningwheretheyhadcavernsthathadbeendugoutinpreparationforalong,protractedwar.Butwesawtheentitiesthere.PH:Describetheonesyousawthere.Yousaidtheywerelikefrogs?CS:Thecolorishardtodescribe.Itwaslikeagreyishbrown.Theylookedmoreaquatic,andtheireyesandmouthsremindedmeoffrogs.Theyhadtwolittleslitsforanose.Theskinwasrough,andtheyhadstrangefingerswithsortofsuction-cupthings,butIcan’treallybetooclearonthis.Peoplewantdescriptions,butitwashardtonoticeeverything.PH:Weretheyscarytoyou?CS:Thisissohardtoexplain.Therewerenolightsinthere,butwecouldseeabit.Nottoocoldortoohot.Whenthishappened,westartedshooting.Whenyouturnonalightbulb,youlookatitandyoucan’tsee.Weallfoundourwayback.IthoughtI’donlybeeninthereforafewminutes.Someonepulledmeout,andeverythingwentbacktonormal.TheytoldmetheyhadtotakecareofmyeyeorI’dloseit.NextthingIknew,Iwasoutside.Ifiguredmypeoplepulledmeout.Ihavemedicalrecordsthatshowthatsome

insectssprayedsomethingintomyeyeandIworeapatchovermyeyeforaweek.Doyouknowofanyinsectthatcandothat?PH:Didyourpeoplereallypullyouout?CS:Iwasneveractuallytoldhowithappened.TheytoldmewhenIaskedhowtheygotmeoutofthere,“Wedidn’t.”IthinktheyhavenoideahowIgotoutofthere.PH:Didthesebeingscallyoubynamealso?CS:NotthatIremember.Iwasinalotofpain.PH:Didbulletshitthosebeings?CS:Iftheydid,theyhadnoeffect.PH:Andthosebeingswerenothostile?CS:Theywerenothostile.Wewereshootingatthem.Wewillalwaysreactthatway,withviolence.It’sthewayhumansare.It’sbeenabouttwentyyearsnow,andwewillnolongersendaircraftafteraUFO,butIguaranteeyouthateverypilotwhoseesonewantstoopenfireonit.PH:You’vedescribeddifferentkindsofbeings.Doyoufeelthatthereisanimminentinvasion,oraretheyjustobserving?CS:Idon’tthinkthere’sanyplanforinvasion,buttherearealsorogueelementsoutthere.Theseentitieslookdifferentthanus,somelookverysimilartous,buttheintelligenceandtheessenceofbeinganintelligentspeciesisthere.Thatmandatesthatyoucanliveatpeaceintheuniverse.Rogueelementsmightbetryingtoimposethemselvesontheuniverse,thoughIhaven’tseenanythinglikethathappen,andIthinkwewouldhavehelpinthatsituation.PH:Thereisonebeingyoumentioned,namedKorona.Heisalwayswithyou?CS:Yes,theysaythey’reassignedtosomeoneforlife.PH:Isheagrey?CS:He’sgreen.Sortofhumanlike,butwithroughskin––notscales.Bigeyes,liketeardropswiththepointedpartin.Hehasasenseofhumor,sometimesmisguided.IonceaskedhimhowIcouldknowthathewasn’tjustmyimagination,andhesaid,canyourimaginationdothis?Andhesmashedaplate.SomeonecameinandaskedmewhyIsmashedtheplate,andIdidn’t.PH:Didhegiveyouamessageforhumanityorforyourself?CS:They’reactuallytryingtounderstandhowwereallywork.Youdon’tgoinandsay,takemetoyourleader.Heavenforbid,lookatourgovernmentrightnow.Ifourgovernmentwasafamilyunit,theywouldbethemostdysfunctionalinthehistoryofmankind.Ifyousaythat,allyou’llheariswhattheleaderswantyoutohear.Sotheyobservequietly,livingamongus.Theyhookontoonepersonearlyinlifeandtheyfollowthatpersonthroughoutlife.Ifyouhaveachildwhohasimaginaryfriendsandtheysaythey’rereal,youmightconsiderthathe’sactuallytellingthetruth.

Photolefttoright:ResearcherTomHamlin,PaolaHarrisandCliffordStone,Roswell,NewMexico,October2,2011.PH:Koronacouldempathizewithyourfeelings?CS:Yes,absolutely.WhenIwasupset,hewasupset.WhenIwaslittle,mymomwasinthehospitalandIranandhidbehindthesink,andIfeltthisbonyhandscratchingthetopofmyheadasiftosay,youcanrunbutyoucan’thide.Iwentrunningagainandmyaunttriedtomakemesitinachair,butIcouldn’t.EventuallyIcalmeddownandKoronasaidtome,you’retooyoungforusreallytoexplain,butwe’renotghosts,andwe’renotforeveryonetosee.Hopefullyyouwilllearnsomethingsfromme,butIwilllearnalifetimefromyou.ThatwasthefirsttimeIwastoldwhyhewasthereandwasn’tgoingaway.PH:Andsomebodyknewthatthiswashappening.CS:CaptainBrownshowedupin1957whenIsawmyfirstUFO.Iwas6or7yearsold,andIknewthatwewerenotaloneintheuniverse.Acoupleofweekslater,TRUEmagazinecameoutwithaUFOstory.Sinceitwasamen’smagazine,thedruggistwouldn’tletmebuyit.So,CaptainBrownshowsupandbuystwocopiesofthemagazine,andsayshe’sinterestedinUFOstoo.Heboughtmearootbeerfloatandtalkedtomyparents,andfromthattimeon,westruckuparelationship.PH:Youwereinhighschoolwhenyoufoundoutyouwererejectedfrommilitaryservice?CS:ItwasinNovemberof1967.WehadarecruitercometoourhighschoolandIpassedallthewrittentests,butfailedthephysical.IwastoldthatIwas4F,permanentlyrejectedfromthemilitaryservice.OngraduationIwentbackhome,thengotaletterfrommydraftboardsayingtheywantedtoreevaluateme.Itookallthewrittentestsagain,passedthemagainwithveryhighscores,andwasselectedforOfficers’TrainingSchoolifIwantedtogo.Istillhadmedicalproblems,andacaptaincameoutandtoldmethey’dbesendingmehomeshortly.Acolonelcameoutandsentthecaptainhome,thenaskedmeifIreallywantedtobeinthemilitary.IsaidIdid,thatIhadamoralobligationtoservemycountry.Hesaidhe’dgivemeachance.IthinkhewastheretomakesureIgotintothemilitarybecauseofwhatwashappeninginmylife.Forinteractingwithvisitors,theydon’thaveaschoolforthat.Theyhavetopickoutpeoplewhohavealreadybeenchosenbythevisitorsforinteraction.Thebiggerinterestiswhatwearedoingtoourselves.

PH:Whosebiggerinterest?CS:Bigbusiness,forone.PH:So,they’reusingshort-termstrategies,andthiswastheshortcuttheyusedtofindpeopleforthisprogram.CS:Whenwesetouttobecomeintergalactictravelers,wethreatenotherecologicalsystemsonotherplanetsindiscriminately.Sotheyareconcernedaboutwhatwe’redoing.Inordertodoitwithoutthemstoppingus,wehavetobegincaringabouttheotherguy.Ourvisitorswillletthemselvesbedestroyedratherthanhurtanotherrace.PH:Becausetheyhaveadifferentethic,notselfish.CS:Look,justrecentlywe’veacceptedslavery.Ithasneverbeenright,ithasneverbeenmoral.Butithasbeenaccepted.Recently,wehaveevolvedtothepointwherewenolongeracceptit,wenolongertolerateit.PH:Doyouthinkhumanitywilleverhavespiritualgrowth?CS:Ifwedon’twewilldestroyourselves.PH:So,wehavenochoice.Wehavetoevolvewithourtechnology,also.CS:Youhavetoevolvewithyourtechnologyoryoufallvictimtoit.RememberthatmovieItoldyouabout,the1958PowerofDecision?Thecharacterexistedfortwopurposes––itwoulddeterwarbymakinganycountrythatplannedtoattacktheUnitedStateswithnuclearweapons,understandthattherewouldbenosurvivors.Thatwewouldsurvivelongenough,withenoughpower,toannihilatethem.Inthemovie,theSovietUnionevolvesenoughtothinktheycandoit.Itshowsthatwefailedourinitialassignmentanddidnotdeternuclearwar.ThesecondmissionwasthetotalannihilationofwhateverforceattackedtheUnitedStates,bydroppingmorenuclearbombsonthem.Allyouhavetodoafteryouhavewonthewar,whichwouldlastonly36hours,istosurviveforthenexttwelveyears.Anythinggrowing,worldwide,it’snolongeredible.Sameforlivestock.PH:So,it’snotreallyadeterrent,butgameover.CS:Wedestroyedourselvesbyourtechnology.PH:Howoldwereyouwhenyougotyourfirstassignmentafterenteringthearmyatageeighteen?CS:Nineteen.PineGap,PennsylvaniawasoneofthefirsttimesIwalkeduptothecraftandtheywerealldead.Iwalkedupalone,becauseifanythingwasgoingtohappen,they’donlyloseoneperson.Iwassortofthinkingthatmaybeitwasmanmade,butwhenIgotagoodlookIrealizeditwasn’t.PH:Didyouevergotoonethathadanythingaliveinside?CS:Ohyeah.PH:Canyouevertalkaboutthis,legally?CS:There’snowayyoucaneverlegallytalkaboutit;they’llshootyou.Theyonlycareaboutwhatyoucanprove.Saythere’safilm,andyougetthatfilmout.Theywillkilltokeepthatfilmfromgettingout.Ifwehaveanairlinerup,andweknowthatthere’sahijackeronboardwhoisgoingtostrikeatarget,thereisastandingordertoshootitdownovertheleastpopulatedareapossiblesoastominimizethelossoflife.Thisshowsthatweseeitasmorallyrighttoviolateourownlawsinordertoprotectlife.WhenitcomestoUFOs,wehavenoideawhatworldreactionisgoingtobewhenwesaynotonlyhavewemadecontactwithetlifethatisevenmoreintelligentthanus,sovastlyintelligentthatwe’relikeants,theyhavebeenamongusformillenia.There’snothingtoworryabout;they’renotevil.Howmanypeopledoyou

thinkwillbuythat?Rememberthathumanreactionwetalkedabout?Sothewholesituationisthatthefearfactorisn’tthereanymore.Howwe’regoingtodoit,andwhatthereactionisgoingtobe,wedon’tknowyet.PH:Doyouthinkthepeopleshouldknow?CS:Ithinkthepeopleshouldknow,andIthinktherearealotofpeopleouttherewhodoknow.But,Ialsoknowpeoplewhohavelosttheirfamiliesbecauseweliedandsaidtherewasnothingtoit.Thetwopoliceofficers,whochasedtheUFOfor67milesandsawabeing,havebeenattackedbythosewhodidn’tseeitandbydebunkers.Oneoftheofficerstookaphoto,buthislifewasdestroyed.Peoplewanttoknowwhyhedidn’tshoot.Whatifithadbeenapersondressedup,andhehadshotatit?Itistimetotellthetruthforourchildrenandgrandchildren.

Pictured:Backrow:HongNguyen(Daughter),HanhThiStone(Wife),CliffordEarlStone,LinhDuyBui(Grandson)andJoshTessier(Son-in-Law).Frontrow:AnhHuyenBui(Granddaughter),HuuNghiaBui(Grandson)andAdeleTessier(Granddaughter).NotPictured:Julia

Tessier(Daughter),GeorgeStone(Son)andJohnStone(Son).Deceased:RobertStone(Son)andAnhNguyen(Son).PhotocourtesyCliffordStone.

TheHistoricStephenvilleUFOSightings:InterviewwithPrimaryWitnessSteveAllen

Revolutionaryformeisthedebutofthe2012Women’sUFOSymposiuminGlenRose,Texas,alittlewaysfromtheStephenvilleUFOSightingsofJanuary8,2008.Iorganizedthisuniquevenuefortworeasons.One,IwasimpressedbythecourageofAngeliaJoinerandwantedtogiveheranawardforhercouragecoveringthisstoryandjeopardizingherjob.Iwantedtodoitonherhometurf.Secondly,IhaveexperiencedthedifficultyofwomentocommunicatetheirresearchatUFOconferencesandenterthismale-dominatedfield.Iwishedtostrikeaproperbalanceinapivotalastrologicalyear2012.TheeventdoeshavemaleparticipationintheallmalepanelofStephenvillewitnessesandtheextraordinarypresenceofproducer/director/cameraman,JamesCarmanwhowillbescreeningofhisdocumentaryTheHiddenHand.

IntheprocessoforganizingtheSymposium,Ihopethefirstofmanyevents,IinterviewedpilotandbusinessmanSteveAllenabouthissighting.Itchangedhisworldview,andhewascourageousenoughtotalkaboutitpublically.Iwassoimpressedwithhiscandorandhisaccountoftheevents;Idecidedtoincludehisinterviewtothisrevisedversionofthebook.Thesenewadditionsemphasizemyobsessionwithhistoricalaccuracyfromfirsthandwitnesses.Intheend,thefuturewillneedtoreverttothepasttogetthetruth,therealstory,andtheconnectionstothismystery.Weneedtoconnectallthedots,notjusttheoneswe,ourselves,research.Weneeditall:national,internationalandcosmic.ItisanexcitingjourneyweareonandIinvitethereadertojoinus.

SteveAllen,GlenRose,Texas,December,2011.InterviewwithSteveAllenStephenvilleUFOWitnessGlenRose,TexasDecember2,2011“AndIsaid,‘Please,Mr.President,thegig’sup;thecatisoutofthebag.Youcantelluswhat’sgoingon.’Isaid,‘We’reintelligentpeople.We’renotgoingtopanic,youknow.Wecantakeit,whateveritis.But,weneedtoknowaboutit.’”––SteveAllenPaola:CanyoudescribewhatyousawonthenightofJanuary8,2008nearStephenville,Texas?Theywerelights.Correct?

Steve:Thefirsttimeweobserveditwastotallyquiet,nocars,noairplanes,anything.Ilookedofftotheeastandsawsomeveryintensebrightlightscomingtowardsusatahighrateofspeed.ItwasunlikeanythingI’deverseenbefore.Ithadfourflashinglights.Appearedtobeonthefourcornersoftheobject.Theyweremovinginexactlythesamespeedaltitudeeverything,completeunison.Asitcamepastusyoucouldseesevenflashinglightsacrosstheback.WhenthecraftorobjectcametoastopovertheStephenvilleareathesevenhorizontalflashinglightswenttoanarchshapelikeafootballthenseveralsecondslaterthelightswenttoaverticalshapestillflashinginnoparticularpattern.Thenappearedanadditionalsetofsevenlightsvertical.Sotwosetsofthesevenlights.Thentheyburstintoaveryunusualplaqueorrectangle-likeplanefortwoorthreesecondsandafterthattheysimplydisappeared.Eightminutesafterthefirsttimewesawit,weranbackoutsideanditwascomingbackagainfromthewesttotheeast,basicallytowardsPresidentBush’shouseandournuclearplantinGlenRose,anditwentaway.Andthenithadtworound,redorbsinthebackofit.AboutthreesecondslaterherecomestwoF-16sinfullpursuitofit.Fullafterburner!Itactedlikeitwastoyingwiththem.Theycouldn’tcatchitandtheyheadedofftowardthePresident’shouse,offthatway.WheretheyweregoingorwhatIdon’tknow.Thereweretwoextremelybrightredlightsintherearoftheobject.I’veneverseenanythinglikeitbeforeinmylife.Realbright.Theyweretogetherforafewseconds.After,wesawtheF-16Jetschasingthem.Theyalljustshotoff.Theywerenotmakinganynoiselikeaplaneorajet.Thisobjectwasonradarola:Anddoyoufeelthatitneedstobestudiedmoreandpeoplewouldstopcallingthe“littlegreenmen”syndrome,gotolittlegreenmenthewaytheyautomaticallygotoit?Becauseyousawsomething;youknowyousawsomething?Steve:Oh,positively.Itneedstobestudied.Perhapswemightknowmorethantheytellus.ForsomereasonIhavenotrequestedthepresident,likewhenBushwaspresident,totelluswhatwasgoingon.ABCwashereinthisofficeonedayandtheysaid,“Whatdoyouhavetosaytotheworld?”AndIsaid,“Please,Mr.President,thegig’sup;thecatisoutofthebag.Youcantelluswhat’sgoingon.”Isaid,“We’reintelligentpeople.We’renotgoingtopanic,youknow.Wecantakeit,whateveritis.Butweneedtoknowaboutit.”Paola:Doyouthinkheknowsaboutitorareyouencouraginghimtofindoutaboutit?Steve:Ithinktheyknowaboutit.Ijustaboutbettheyknow.Paola:Youdothinktheyknowaboutit.Steve:Noquestionaboutit,theyknowaboutit.Paola:Andwhatarethereasons?CanIsuggestthatoneofthereasonsthatyouthinktheydoisbecausetheycamesoclosetohisplaceinCrawford,Texas?Steve:No,Idon’tthinkthat’sthereason.Ijustthinkapersoninpowerknows.Ifyou’lllistentothepastpresidents,whattheysaidjusthereandthere,littlesnippets,likeKennedyhasmadesomestatements,thenafterthere’sbeenseveralpeople,andGeneralPattonalsohasmadesomestatementthatthenextmajorWorldWarIIIwillnotbeawarofhere.Itwillbeaninterplanetarywarinspace.Sohigh-rankingdignitariesletjustlittlebitsandpiecesoutandifyouconnectallthedotsperse,youmightbeabletofigureoutwhatitis.Paola:Youknow,Steve,yousawdots,andyou’retryingtoconnectthem.Theywerejustabunchofdotsinthesky.Tellme,justinyouropinion,andthisisjustyouropinion:Doyouthinkthisisahostilesituation?Steve:No.Iwasveryconcernedandworriedthefirstseveralweeksafterward.Ibeganloosingsleepafterthat.AndAngelia[Joiner,thereporterwhobrokethestory,internationally,oftheStephenvillesighting]calledmeandIstartedloosingsleepimmediatelyafterthatbecauseIthoughtitcouldbea

hostilesituation.WhywouldourF-16sbechasingthis?Ifitwasoneofours,whywouldtheychaseit?Andsothatdidn’tmakesense.Ifitwasoneofours,theywouldn’tbechasingit.AndIthought,well,what’stheproblemhere?ThenIthought,wellmaybe,iftheyhaveenoughtechnologytodothat,thentheycouldaswellhaveenoughtechnologytoeraseusallintheblinkofaneye.AndnobodythatIknowofhaseverbeenhurtorI’veneverheardofanybodybeinghurtorhasheardofanybodybeinghurtorkilledorabductedorwhatever.ButI’msuretheyhavebeenbutwejustdon’tknowaboutit.ButIdecideditwasn’tasharmfulorgreatenoughofafeartoappeartoconcernmyselfwith.Itkindofeasedmymind,andofcourseItalkedtotheLears,youknow,andtheytoldmeabouttheirlittleprojectsandseveralothers,anditwasjustalmostaninformationoverload.IamacountryboyfromUSAhere.Paola:That’sJohnLear.Steve:Idon’thaveanythingtogain.AlotofpeopleknowmeandI’mmaybealotofthings,butI’mnotaliar.AndIknowwhatIsaw.Soitwasveryintriguingastowhatitisandastowhattheyareherefororwhatthey’redoing.Sowhoknowsifthey’vebeenhereformillionsofyearsorwhoknowshowlongthey’vebeenhere.Therearemorequestionsthananswers.Paola:Well,asaninvestigator/journalistIlikeyourapproachbecauseyou’reveryopen-mindedandhaven’tmadeadecisionastowhatitis.It’sjustoutofthisworld.Steve:That’stheonlydecisionIhavemade.Idon’tthinkitwouldbeanythingthatwehave,plususchasingitdoesn’tmakesense.AndreportsafterwesawitthissideofWacotheywerestillchasingitandthejetsbrokethesoundbarrier.Andthat’sagainstthelaw.Youcan’tdothat.Sosomebodyhadtoauthorizethosejetstoexceedthespeedlimitforsomething.Paola:Sointeresting.Steve:Ithinktheradarreporthaddefinitelyseenanobjectinthesky,there’snodoubtaboutthat.Thisobjectwasonradarforoveranhour.Therewerethreedifferenttimesrecorded.Whenwefoundradarfailure,nodocumentwasthere.Thequestionwasasked,exactlywhatwasit?Idon’tthinkit’sfromthisEarth.Whateveritiswouldbepurespeculation.We’dsayitwasfromsomewherebesideshere.Iwouldn’tsaylittlegreenmen,butit’ssomethingdifferent.Andthatalsoshowsuponthatradarreport,whentheyblankedorblackedoutallthelogbooksofthoseplanes,soobviouslytheyhadknownit’ssomethingthatwehavetohide.Ifwecouldjusttalktosomeofthosejetjockeys,Ibetwe’dgetastory.Paola:Okay.NowtheguythatdidtheradarreportisthemanthatworksforMUFON?Steve:RobertPowellworksforMUFONandGlenSchultzwasthesecondperson.Paola:RobertPowell.AndthosetwopeopleworkedforMUFON.AndwehavetogiveMUFONcredit.ButGlenShultz.Steve:RobertPowellisMUFON,yes.Paola:Andsowhathappenedisthattheywentfortheactualdata,whichiswhatMUFONdoes––getactualdata.Steve:TheFreedomofInformationAct,sixdifferentradars.Andtheygotthedata––25millionpiecesofdata.Ittookthemquiteawhiletocompileitbuttheyworkedhardanddiligentlytodowhattheydid.Nobodyhasdisputedwhattheydid.They’reexpertsintheirfield,andI’mnot100%certain,butIthinkGlenSchultzistheonethatdidtheLockerbie,Scotlandcrash.AngeliaknowsmoreaboutthatthanIdoasfarashisresumeperse.So,yes,theradardatasurebacksupeverythingthateverybodywassaying,especiallythelocationsandthespeeds,youknow,thephenomenalspeeds.ItcamedowntowhatIcall

zeroMPH,butcometofindoutitwassomethinglike20-somethingMPHwhichseemsstoppedatadistance.Ifyou’relookingatitfrom2or3milesoffyoucan’ttellifit’s20MPHorstopped.Itwasdefiniterunningveryrapid,flyingveryfastwhenwefirstsawitandthenrapidlydecelerated.That’swhenitcametoastopinStephenville.

Pictured:SteveAllenandPaolaHarrisexaminetheradardata.GlenRose,Texas,December,2011.Paola:So,onethingyousaidthatreallyinterestedme,too.Yousaidandwe’reholdingthisconferenceinGlenRose,andthatitwasbetweenGlenRoseandStephenville,anditwentontoStephenville.Soitwasintheairbetweentwocities.Steve:Correct.Exactly.AndIhappentoliveinGlenRoseandwehavemutualfriendsinStephenville.Ididn’tknowanybody,Ididn’tknowAngelia,Ididn’tknowLeroyGaidan,Ididn’tknowanybodyatthattime.Soweallkindofmetunderunusualcircumstances.Paola:Doyouwanttotalkaboutthat?Whatthecircumstanceswerethatyoucameforthfirst?Youopenedthedoor.Youletthecatoutofthebag.Youopenedthedoor.Youcangoaheadandelaborateonthat.Ifanybodyelsesawitandyouwereopenenoughtogiveoutyourtelephonenumber.Steve:Sure.Icalledtheairportthenextmorning,theStephenvilleAirport.Theyareverydearfriendsofmine,goodpeople,andtoldthemaboutit.Theyhadn’tseenanythingbuttheydidhearsomejetsthatpreviousnight,andsotheycalledFortWorthradarandFortWorthradarisusuallyfriendlyandtheyseemedliketheywerealittlehostiletowardsthem,nothostile,butjustnottheirusualTexashospitality/friendlyselves.SotheythoughtthatwasalittlestrangeandsoIbasicallyhitabrickwallwithourairport,sayingtheytriedbuttheycouldn’tfindanyinformationout,andthat’swhenIcalledtheStephenvilleEmpireTribuneandspokewiththeeditorandtheeditorconnectedmewithAngelia.Angeliaasked,“Wouldyouminddoingastoryandletmeprintyourname?”AndIsaid,“Makesureputmyphonenumberinthereaswell.Surelysomebodymusthavehadaphotographofthesunsetandmaybeatthattimetheygotapictureofthisandtheydon’tknowit.BecauseitwasaverybrightandunusualsunsetwiththestrangestlookingcloudI’veeverseen.Sunsetsarealwaysbeautifulhere.Paola:Strange-lookingcloudinwhatway?Describethecloud.Luminousorhugeorwhat?Steve:No,itwasn’tthatlarge.Itwaskindofaluminouswouldbeagoodwordforit…theconfigurationandcolorofitwasverystrange.Itwaslikea…Ihatetosayit…ananomalyintheskyitself,butitseemedstrangeaswell.JustlikenothingthatI’deverseenquitelikethis.Paola:Brightwhitelightor…?

Steve:Realbrightorangeandred,youknow.Paola:Orangeandred.Okay.Steve:Kindofmatchedtheatmosphereatthetime.Red-orangeatmosphere,too.Whenallthistookplaceitwasslightlyaftersundownbutitwasstilltwilightoutside.Youhadgreatvisibility.Itwasn’tlikeitwaspitch-blackordark.Youcouldstillseeanddrivewithyourcarlightsoff.Paola:Soitwasanatmospherewhereactuallyyourfriendswerelookingatthesunsetandyoujustturnedaroundandsawsomethingnottheoppositeway.Steve:Yes.Anditmightbethatitjustkindofcameinoutof…I’matalossforwords.But,itjustkindofappearedspeedingtowardsusataveryhighrateofspeedandrapidlydecelerating.AsitcamepastusIdidkindofhavethefeelingthatmaybeitwashereandthatitwatchingus.Idon’tknowwhyIhadthatfeelingbutIjustfeltthatway.Paola:Well,that’simportantbecauseIthinkthatwhenyoucoverastoryyouneedtocovernotonlythesightingbutalsotheimpressionsthatpeoplehaveandthereactiontheyhavetoit.Soyoufelttheywerewatchingyou.Itwasareciprocalkindofsituation,whateveritwas,wasaware.Now,goingbacktothefactthatthat’showyouhookedupwithAngeliaJoiner,becauseshedidthestory,andbecauseyouallowedyourtelephonenumbertobethere.Howsoonafterthatdidyougetwitnessescomingforth?Steve:Ithinkitwasthenextday.ObviouslyIsawitonJanuary8,soitwasthatafternoon,January9thatIcalledandtalkedtoeverybodyattheairport.ThenAngeliaprintedthestorythatcameoutonJanuary10th.And,immediatelywhenthepaperhit,ourphonelineslitup,allfivelineswaslitalldaylong.Wecouldn’tconductournormaltransportation/truckingbusiness.SoIwasbusyfieldingcallsandtryingtotakenotesofwhocalledandwhattheysawandwhentheysawit,andwheretheywereatandiftheywouldmindtalkingtoRickySorrels,LeroyGaidan,andquiteafewothers.Mosteverybodydidn’twanttotalk,butafterItalkedtothemandsaid,“YouknowIsawitandseveralotherssawit”theysaid,“Well,whattheheck,I’llcomeforthaswell.”Leroy’swordwas,“Hey,Ican’ttalkaboutthis.I’manelectedofficial.”AndIsaid,“Comeon,Leroy,I’minthespotlightinthisbymyself.Helpmeoutalittlebithere.”Andhesaid,“Youknowwhat,Idon’tcare.Let’sjustgoforit.”AndIsaid,“Okay,I’llputyoudown.”Sotherestiskindofhistory.ObviouslyLeroyGaitanistheconstableandagood,honorablepersonaswellwithgoodcharacter,sohe’sacrediblewitnessaswell.Paola:Andtherefore,asthiswentviral,anditwentviraltotheLarryKingShowandothershows,andwhatitdid…andthisisgoodbecausetheUnitedStatesisopeninguptoatleastsomereportingofthis.So,thethingis,doyoufeelthatourmediacoulddomore?Steve:Oh,yes.Ithinktheycould.Idon’tknowifthemediacoulddoanythingbecauseourelectedofficials,ourgovernment…Idon’tknowwhoyouwouldlookat,whetherit’sAirForceorCentralIntelligenceAgency.Paola:Whowouldcontrolthemedia?Steve:Intelligenceagencies.Idon’tknowiftheycontrolthemediaornot,but,Ithinktheywouldhaveaprettygoodideaofwhathappenedhere.Paola:Okay.So,you’rethesamegroupofpeoplethatthinkthatthereis,inotherwords,Idon’tknowhowtowordthis.Doyouthinkthereisacover-upofsomekind?Steve:Ohyes,absolutely.Paola:Thatthereisacover-up.SoI’mgoingtogotothenextquestionwhichwouldbe,“Doyoufeelthatpeoplecouldhandlethetruth?”

Steve:IhadaColonelcallmeonenightandhesays,“Youknow,ifthepeopleeverfoundoutwhatwasgoingon,itcouldcausechaos.Itcouldcausethestockmarkettocollapse,itcouldcausereligiousbeliefstobedisregarded,whateverybody’sstoodforallthistime,itcouldcausealotofpanic,and….”Paola:Ifyouhadtoweighthat,or,ifyoubelievedthat;ifyouhadtoweightthatvs.thecover-up,hasthatbeenaconflictinyourmind?Steve:Notreally.Ifeelallmybeliefs.ItrytobeagoodChristianpersonandItrytodowhat’scorrect.Noneofusareperfectasfarasthatgoes,soI’vetriedtostayoncoursewithwhatIbelieveinuntilprovenotherwise.Itwouldtakequiteabittoswaymybeliefsasfarasthatgoes.Paola:Sowhatdoyouthink?Steve:IttellsyouaboutthisintheBible.Almostthesamethingwiththestoryof“Ezekiel’sWheel.”Paola:Okay.Thisdealswith“Ezekiel’sWheel.”TheBiblehasreferencestopossibleUFOsightingswhentalkingabout“Ezekiel’sWheel.”So,thebigquestionis“doyouthinkthatpeopleshouldknow?”Steve:Ibelievethattheyshouldknow.Absolutely.Yes.Ibelievetheyshouldknow,absolutely.Paola:Youthinkthetruthisimportant?Steve:Thetruthisveryimportant.Usuallythetruthwillsetyoufree.

SectionTwoUnconventionalWisdomfromUnconventionalPeople

“Fewmenarewillingtobravethedisapprovaloftheirfellows,thecensureoftheircolleagues,thewrathoftheirsociety.Moralcourageisararercommoditythanbraveryinbattleorgreatintelligence.Yetitistheoneessential,vitalqualityforthosewhoseektochangeaworldthatyieldsmostpainfullytochange.”––RobertKennedy(November20,1925–June6,1968)InterviewwiththeHonorablePaulHellyer

OnSeptember23,2005,inCanada,amostextraordinaryeventoccurredinhistory.Onecourageousman,speakingataconferenceattheUniversityofTorontosaid:“UFOsareasrealasairplanes.”Hewasnoordinarygentleman,buttheformerMinisterofDefenceofCanada.IwassupposedtobeinCanadaforthatconference.Asfatehadit,Icouldnotattendbecauseofillness,soIflewtoCanadafivemonthslatertomeethimandgetperhapsthemostimportanttestimonyofmyjournalisticcareer.Heisanextraordinarymanwhospeaksinordinarytermsandhiswordscontain“unconventionalwisdom.”Thissectionisdedicatedtothecourageouspublicservants––membersofgovernment––whocalltosearchforthetruth.InterviewwiththeHonorablePaulHellyerFormerCanadianMinisterofNationalDefenceToronto,CanadaFebruary24,2006Paola:IwantedtointerviewtheHonorablePaulHellyer,whohascomeoutwithaspeechusingtermsthataresounpopularinPolitics.SoIthinkwewillstartbyaskinghim:Whendidyougetinterestedinthewhole,entire,UFOfield?Whenwereyoucuriousaboutwhatwasintheskies?WasitwhenyouwereworkingasDefenseMinisterunderLesterPierson?Wasthatacuriosity?Wasitwhenyouwereyoung?Whenwasit?Hellyer:Notreally.Itisveryrecent.WhenIwasMinisterofNationalDefence,Ihadreportscrossingmydeskaboutsightings.Theyjustindicatedastowhethertherewassomenaturalexplanationorwhethertherewasn’tandIwasfartoobusyatthetimetoworryaboutitverymuchbecauseIwastheMinisterwhounitedtheArmedForces:theRoyalCanadianArmy,TheRoyalCanadianNavyandtheRoyalCanadianAirForceintoasinglearmedforce.ThiswasreallyunprecedentedintheWesternWorld.RobertMcNamara,whowastheUSSecretaryofDefenseatthetime,saidthisiswhatalltheministerswantedtodobutdidn’thavethegutstodo.Itwaswarreallytoaccomplishthis.Paola:ThiswasMcNamaraunderKennedyinthe1960s?Hellyer:Thatwasthe1960s,soIwasjusttoobusytobecuriousaboutUFOsandotherthings.Itisonly,Isuppose,inveryrecenttimes,whensomefriendsstartedsendingmethings.Frankly,Iwastoobusytoreadthem,orIthoughtIwas,soIkeptputtingthemoffandIputthemontheshelfforfuturereference.ImustadmitthatitwasonlyafterItookColonelCorso’sbooktomylittlelodgeinMuskokaayearagoandsatdownandreaditthatitreallytweakedmyinterestbecauseIknewrightawayitwasreal.Isaid,“Hey!ThisissomethingIwanttofindoutaboutbecausethisisimportantandtherearealotofpolicyissuesthatI’mgoingtohavetothinkabout.”Paola:Thisbook,whogaveittoyou?Hellyer:IguessitwasPierreJuneau.Pierrehasbeensendingmequiteabitofstuff.Heisveryjudicious.HeknowsthatIamoverloadedandyoulookedatmydeskearliersoyouknowthatitistrue.

Paola:Butyouareanactivistinmany,manyareas.Hellyer:Thatistrue.Yes,I’mjustgoingnightandday.PeopleaskmewhatIdonowthatI’mretiredandtheonlydifferenceisthatIonlyworksixdaysaweeknow––anditismoreorlesstrue.ButIreadtheCorsobookandIknewthatitwasauthentic.Iaskedmyself,youknow,wouldanyonebecapableofmakingthatfiction?IonlyreadafewbooksayearandtheCorsobookwassoconvincingthatIcouldnotmakeupmymindonehundredpercentuntilrightattheend,whetheritwasfactorfiction.Isaid,“Isthereanypossibilitythatthisbookcouldbefiction?”AndtheanswerthatIconcludedis,no,thatitcouldn’tbebecausethereweretoomanytimes,toomanynames,toomanyplacesandtherearetoomanyreferencesthatIwouldknowaboutastheformerMinisterofNationalDefence,thatIwouldrecognizeasbeinglegitimate.AllofasuddenIbecamedeeplyinterestedanddeeplyconcerned.Paola:AndIalsoknow,becauseitwaspartofastorythatwaswrittenaboutyou,thatyoucalledafour-stargeneralintheUnitedStatestoconfirm…Hellyer:Iamnotatlibertytosaywhoitwasorhowmanystarshehad.WhenIwasreadingthebook,mynephewaskedwhatIwasreadingandItoldhimandsohewas,likealargeproportionofthepopulation,askepticanddidnotmindadmittingit.Sohewentaway,ashehadbeenvisitingforafewdays.Thenacoupleofweekslaterhecalledme.Hesaid:“Ihadbeentalkingtomyfriend,theretiredGeneral,andItoldhimaboutthebook.Hesaid,quote:“Everywordistrueandmore!”Andhesaid,“NowIwanttogetmyhandsonthatbook!”Paola:Well,thebookwasabestselleranditdidcomeoutprogrammedatthe50thanniversaryoftheRoswellcrash.WehavegroupswhobelievethatRoswelldidn’tevenhappen––whereColonelCorso,inthebookandintheDawnofaNewAge,whicharehisoriginalnotes,hetellsaboutseeingabodyinFortRiley,Kansas,in1947.SoitisnotjusthisworkatthePentagonbutitisthefactthathedidalsoseeanalienbody,whichisveryimportant.So,youaretellingmethatthischangedthewayyouthoughtaboutalotofthingsandyouwerecuriousandyoualsoconsidereditserious.DidyouconsideritseriousbecauseitisamatterofNationalSecurityordidyouconsideritseriousbecause,asahumanbeing,itchangedthewayyoulookedattheworld?Hellyer:ItmademeverycuriousandconcernedbecauseIunderstandpolicyissueswhentheystaremeintheface.SoIsaid,“Thereareallkindsofpolicyissueshere.”Firstoff,GeneralTwining,GeneralNathanTwining,designatedthesepeopleas“enemyaliens.”Somyfirstquestionis:Aretheystilldesignatedenemyaliens?Becauseiftheyare,thentheUnitedStatesArmedForcesarepreparingtokillthem.ThenIaskedmyself,“Iftheystarttakingonasuperiortechnology,whatisgoingtohappen?Aretheyjustgoingtotakeitoraretheygoingtoretaliate?WhataretheconsequencesofsuchathingfortheUnitedStatesandfortheworld?”Itisjustabsolutely,tremendouslyimportant.And,ofcourse,otherpolicyconsiderationsare,well,thatifthistechnologyissoabsolutelywonderful,ithasthemakingsofsavingourplanetfromenvironmentaldestruction.Wecouldgetawayfromburningfossilfuelsandsavetheozonelayerandstoptheicecapsfrommeltingandraisingthewaterlevelsworld-wideandstopdisruptingtheweatherpatternsthatareupsettingalotofpeople.Ithinkupsettingthemalotmorethantheyarewillingtoadmit––andsothisisreasontwo,whichistremendouslyimportant.Thethirdone,ofcourse,isthatitcertainlyreinforcesthattheofficialsarenottellingthetruthaboutRoswell.Iknowthat.IheardsomeofthemontelevisionnottoolongagoandthepartylinewasstillthatitwasaweatherballoonandIhearddozensofotherssaytheyweresworntosecrecy.SoIsaid,“Waitaminute!Givemeabreak!Youareswearingpeopletosecrecybecauseofweatherballooncrashes?”Paola:Itisnotlogical.Hellyer:Well,itisnotcredible!Sowhenwearetalkingaboutthesethings,theycanaccusethepeople

whosaythatthecrashwasrealofnotbeingcrediblebutIwouldsaythatthepeoplewhowouldsayitwasaweatherballoonarebynomeanscredible.SoIsaytomyselfthatthiscover-up,becauseIamconvincedthattherehasbeenasystematiccover-up,athoroughandverysuccessfulcover-upforhalfacenturyormore,thewholecover-uplendscredencetoLewisLatham’s(theeditorofHarper’sMagazine)theoryofthetwogovernments.Isuspectyouarefamiliarwiththat?Paola:Theshadowgovernmentandtherealgovernment?Hellyer:Thepermanentandtheprovisional.HesaysthatthepermanentUnitedStatesGovernmentistheFortuneFiveHundredlistandthetoplegalfirmsofWashingtonthatdotheirlegalworkandthetopPRcompaniesthatdotheirpublicrelations,ortheirpropaganda––ifyouwanttobealittlemorevulgaraboutit––andthetopcivilservants,bothmilitaryandcivil.TheyruntheUnitedStatesandeveryfewyears,andletmeparaphrasealittlebitwiththelicenseIhaveasaformerpolitician,theyhaveacharadecalledanelectionandthepermanentgovernmentpickstheactorstogoonstageandreadthescriptswrittenbytheprogrammedgovernmentandtheytrytopickactorsthatwon’timprovisetoomuch,andwhowilldoastheyaretoldineffect,andthentheygivethemthemoneytogetelectedandnobodyelseneedapplybecauseithasbecomesuchanexpensivebusiness,especiallyintheUnitedStates,wheretheyraisethesehuge,astronomicalamountsofmoneytogetelected.Anyonewhodoesn’thavethebackingoftheEstablishmentjustisn’tintherace.TheycallitDemocracybutthisisjustnonsense.ItconfirmsformethatwehavearealproblemincountriesthatwecallDemocracies,wherewearebasicallythepawnsofthepeoplewhoconsiderthemselvestobetheproprietorsoftheordersofoursociety,anditdoesnotoftenmatterwhoweelect,theyarenotgoingtochangeanythingofsignificance.Thesearefundamentalpolicyquestionsthatintrigueme,notjustintriguemebutwhichIthinkhavetoberesolvedfirst,notonlyforthebenefitoftheUnitedStatesbutforallmankind,becausewetagalongwiththeUnitedStatesbecausewhatevertheydoweareinvolvedin.Iguessitisjustintoday’spaper,ournewMinisterofNationalDefence,underthenewminoritygovernmentunderStevenHarper,hassaidthattheyaregoingtoreopenthequestionoftheanti-missileDefense.Rightawaymyantennaegoup.Wearegoingbecomepartofthisbusinessofbuildingasystemdesignedtotakethe‘alienintruders’onforsize.Dowewanttobepartofthat?Dowewanttobepartofitwithoutknowingwhatwearedoing,whichisobviouslythecase?DoesourPrimeMinister?Isheintheloop?Absolutelynot!I’msureheisnot!IsourMinisterofDefense,whoisaBrigadierGeneral,intheloop?WellI’msureheisnot.He’sjustgoingalongwiththeconventionalwisdomthatwehavetobuildasystemthatprotectsusfromroguemissilesfromheavenknowswhere;thepartyline,thecoverstoriesandIsay,“Youknowthisisnotgoodenough!”Wehavegottohavesomefactsandfiguresandsomerealhardinformationbeforewestartspendingmoneyandtimeanddivertingresourcesfromfarmoreimportantthingstobepartofaprojectthatprobablyisnotgoodforus.Paola:Soyouarefordisclosure.Doyourealize;ifitseemslikeyou’resayingthatyouareforthatitislikepullingtherugoutfromunderalotofinstitutionsthatarewellestablished,includingthefinancial,thereligiousandthepoliticalinstitutions,andthatistheexcusealotofpeoplehavebeenusingforkeepingthesecretstillasecret?Howwouldyoudealwiththat?Hellyer:Ibelieveinseekingthetruth.Inthe‘GoodBook’itsays:“TheTruthwillsetyoufree.”Idon’tthinkthereisanyotherapproach.Idon’tthinkyoucanlivealie.IamareligiouspersonandIamnottheleastbitconcernedaboutdisclosure.AndI’mabsolutelydeterminedthatwefindoutwhatthetruthisandIthinkthatitisjustnaturalandinevitablethatthereareotherspecieselsewhereinthegalaxy,orgalaxies,thataremoreadvancedtechnologicallythatweare,andprobablymoreadvancedspirituallyaswell,andweshouldcooperatewiththemandlearnfromthemandworktogethertomakeabetterworld.Weshouldstartwithmakingourworldbetterandthenwecouldcooperatetomakeabettergalaxyorgalaxies.These

arethekindsofprojectsandpoliciesweshouldbeadoptingandnottryingtospendhundredsandmillionsofdollarswhenwehavemillionsofpeopleonourownplanetdyingofstarvationandillhealth.IputontheScaleofJusticeaprojectcostingafewhundredmilliondollarsthathappenstofitthetemperamentofthemilitaryindustrialcomplexasagainstsavingafewhundredmillionlives,whichotherwisearepeoplewhootherwisedon’thaveachance.Wearejustnothelping,whenwehavethecapacityandresourcestohelpthemandtogivethemamoreabundantlife.Paola:Well,thisisalsoenteringintoaphilosophy.AsaUfologist,Ifeelthatwehaveplentyofsightings.Wehavebeenrecordingthemforever.Wehavethousandsandthousands.Thisisaphenomenonthat,fromSouthAmericatoEuropetoAsia,wehaveenoughproofthattherearesightingsoftheseanomalousobjects.Nowweareintothephilosophyof:“Whatdowedowiththetruth?Whatarethepolicyissues?”ThisgoesintoabrandnewareathatDr.MichaelSallaisinterestedin,called“Exopolitics.”Wouldyouagree,that,eveninthefuture,weneedtogettogether;evenatagrassrootslevel––sincethepoliticiansarenotdoingit––todevelopsomepoliciesconcerningcontact?Hellyer:Well,I’msurewehavetodosomething.Iapplaudthemfortheirefforts.WehavetodosomethingpositivebywayofcooperationandAlfredWebresuggestedaten-yearperiodofcontactandcooperation.Ithinkthatwouldbemarvelous––andheavenonlyknowswhereitwilllead.Ithinkitwouldbefar,farmorepositivethanspendingthenexttenyearstryingtobuildthemilitarysystemcapableofstartinganintergalacticwar.Paola:Whichwemightnotwin.Hellyer:Wellofcoursenot,butthatisapossibilitythatsomemilitarypeoplewouldnevertakeintoaccount.Theysaywewilljustkeepworkinguntilwewin.Iunderstandthemilitarymind.Paola:Itisalsothatwarmakes“money.”Wearedealingwithacomplexthatlivesonthismoneymakingsituation.Hellyer:Itonlymakesmoneyforcertainpeoplebutitputstherestofusindebtunderourverypeculiarmonetarysystemwhich,youmayormaynotknow,isoneofmyparticularlifetimeinterests.Paola:Yes!Iseeyouhavewrittenotherbooksoneconomics.Ididnotknowyouaresoprolificinthisarea;bookslikeSurvivingtheGlobalFinancialCrisisandAgendaandPlanforAction.Youhavewrittenseveralbooksaboutthemonetarysystem.Hellyer:Thisissuchapeculiarsystemthatweexpendthemoneytowinawar.Butthewaywedoitisbygoingfurtherintodebtand,consequently,everytimewehaveanotherwar,thepeoplehavetheadditionaldebtburdenputonthem,whileafewpeoplewhoownthemunitionsfactoriesarethebeneficiaries,butthebeneficiariesofthemunitionsfactoriesarenottheonesthatdothefighting.Theyaretheoneswhohaveluxurycontinuingduringthewartimeperiod.Itistheordinarypeoplethatdothefightingandlosetheirsonsandfathersandunclesandbrothers,thenhavetocarrydebtafterwards,insteadofhavingthefreedomtoregrouptheirlivesandmakethembetter.Therearesomehumongouspolicyissuesinvolved.TheyaresobigthatIfinditdifficulttofindwordstodescribethem.Paola:Nowonagrass-rootslevel,ifyouweretogiveusadvice,whatwoulditbe?WeareusingalotofwhatyousayinourArea51MagazinebecauseyouhavebeencourageousenoughtoaskPresidentBushtoreconsideraBaseontheMoonandsoforth.Butonagrass-rootslevel,thosepeoplewhorealizethatwhatyouaresayingiswiseandwhatyouaresayingisreallythetruth.Whatadvicewouldyougiveusall,todosomechangingtolooktoabetterfuture?Youarespeakingonthepoliticallevelbecauseyouarespeakingassomeonewhohasaparticularpositionbutwhatwouldyouadviseonagrass-rootslevel?We,thepeople,whatwouldyousuggestwedo?

Hellyer:Ithinkthepeopleshouldinformthemselvesoftheinformationavailable.Thereisalotofinformation.YouweresayingthattheDisclosureProjectdrewlittlepress.Paola:StevenGreer’sDisclosureProjecthadthequalificationsofaverywellorchestrated“media”event,dealingwiththetruthaboutUFOs.Hellyer:WeneedtousetheInternetgloballytospreadthewordandusethatvehicleforthegrassrootspeopletodemandoftheirpoliticians,someaction.InCanadarecently,agroupoffriendsareaskingtheSenateDefenseCommitteetoholdaninquiryandtointerviewsomeofthepeoplepresentthatGreerhad,andsomeothersyouknow,andtotalktothem.IthinkinCanadatheywillgetsomepress.Paola:DoyouthinkthatCanadawillreceiveoutsidepressurenottodothat?Hellyer:Theymay,butiftheybuckleunderitwillbejustonemoredisappointingaspectofourbeingconcernedwithwhatthewhiteelephanttellsustodo.Butifwedidithere,itcouldprovidesomepressure.ThecommunicationsgoesfromSouth-to-North.ItisnotunusualthattheygoNorth-to-South.SomelistentotheCanadianBroadcastingCorporation,andsoforth,andiftheygotenoughgoodpublicityheresomeofitcouldleaksouthoftheborderandtheycouldencouragedoingsomething.IthinkthattheyshoulddemandofmembersofCongress:“Whatareyoudoingwithourmoney?Whatprojects?Whatsecretprojectsarethereandwhataretheconsequencesmilitarily?”and,“Doyouconsiderthesepeopleenemyaliensand,ifso,why?Proveittousandshowustheevidence.”EncouragemoreAmericanstodemandthatmembersofCongressdosomething.Ithinktheonlythingwecandoistokeepputtingpressureonpoliticiansandsay,“Hey!Youareelectedtolookafterourinterestsnottodowhatintelligenceorganizationstellyoutodo!”Theyarenotelectedbyanybody.Theyarenotaccountabletoanybody.Theyarejustabunchofpeoplewhothinkthey,sortof,owntheworldandhavetheirownlittleclubandtheylietoeachother––andonceyougetinthehabit,itspillsoverinwhatyouarelikelytotellthepublic.Wehaveaverygreatresponsibilitytotrytoputpressureonthepoliticianstosaythetimehascome:fulldisclosure.Wewanttoknow,andthenwecandecidewhetherwewanttoembarkonaprojecttosavetheplanetincooperationwithothersorletyoucontinueontheroadtomakebiggerandbetterhydrogenbombstoblowupbunkers;todoalotofthingswhichwillultimatelyresultinavirtuallyuninhabitableplanet,orrelativelyuninhabitable,andthatseemstobethechoice.Paola:OK.Towrapupthisinterview,youhadmentionedthatyouarewritinganotherbookandthatyouaregoingtodedicateachaptertothissubject.Weneedmoreofthat.Canyoujustgiveusaninklingofwhatthatchapterwillsayorwillreflect?[Note:LightattheEndoftheTunnel:ASurvivalManualfortheHumanSpecieswasreleasedin2010.YoucanorderitonAmazon.]Hellyer:JustbasicallythethingsthatI’vebeensayingtoyou.Startingwithevidenceofpeoplewhohavealotofexperienceinthisarea.I’mnotgoingtogivealotofexamplesbecauseyoucan’tputmuchinonechapterandIdonotwantthebooktobetoolong,I’dlikesomepeopletoreadit!Tomaybegeteightortenofthemostcrediblepeoplewhohavepersonalknowledgeandtotalktothemmyself,soIcanquotethemverbatim,andtosaythesearecrediblewitnessesandIbelievethemtobetellingthetruth.Idonotbelievethatalotofotherpeoplearetellingthetruthandthetimehascomeforfulldisclosure.Inmyownwords,givethereasonswhythetimehascomeforfulldisclosure.Iwilldevelopsomepoliticalaspectsofthisinotherpartsofthebook,whereI’llbetalkingaboutpolicy,includingmomentarypolicy.Sotherewillafewthreadstyingthistogether.Paola:Well,itisallconnected.Ithasa“futuristic”aspecttoit,aphilosophyofExopolitics,ofhowtodealwiththisreality.Inotherwords,let’shaveasayinthewaythisgoesinthefuture!Ithinkthat’swhywearesoelatedthatyoucameforward,becauseitgivespeoplehope.Wehavetogivepeoplehopethatwecandesignafuture.Also,Iwantedtoaskyou,whenwillthisbookcomeout,sowecanlookforward

toit?Hellyer:Ithinkitwilltakethebestoftwoyearstowrite.IwanttoresearchitproperlyandIwanttomakeitasauthenticasI’mcapableofmakingit.Ihavenodeadline,butatthesametimeIwanttogetstartedassoonaspossible,andgetonwithit.Ikindofhopethisisoutbeforethenextpresidentialelection.Itisnotimportant,inasense,but,inasense,Imayhavesomeadvicefortheelectorateforthekindsofalternativesthattheyshouldlookatforpartypolicy,inboththeUnitedStatesandCanada,anditwillbemyfinaleffortIthink,soIwanttomakeitagoodoneandI’lltrytotietogethertheloseendsaspartofawhole.Paola:YoumentionedtheUnitedStatesandCanadabutIwantedtoaddthatwe,inEurope,arefollowingyouverycloselybecausewhateverhappenshereisreflectedontheothersideoftheoceanandIthinkwhatyouhavedoneforusismakeusoneglobalcommunity,asfarasunderstandingthatthismatteraffectseverybody.Hellyer:Itisaglobalcommunityandeveryoneisaffectedandthemonetarysystemisuniversal;Idon’trestrictittoNorthAmerica.Butthesethingswearetalkingaboutareuniversal.Thefactthatwehavestarvingpeopleinonepartoftheworldandrichpeopleintheother,whoareovereating,isuniversal.Thisisnotrestrictedtoanygeographicalarea,althoughIwillconcentrateontheoneIknowbest.Wecanhaveaworldofpeaceifwehavemenandwomenofgoodwill.Whataremissing,atthemoment,aremenandwomenofgoodwill.Wearemoreinterestedinkillingeachotherthenhelpingeachother,soifsomehowwecanturnthataroundandresetourpriorities;tochangethedirectionofourlivesandexpenditurestoemancipatemankindandotherkind.Startwiththethought:“Let’sstarttolookforwardtoapositivefuture.”Notautopia,butsomethingpositive.Anditispossible;wehavethemeans!Wehavethetechnology;everythingweneed,exceptthepoliticalwilltodoit.Thatiswhatislacking.GeneralEisenhowerwarnedusaboutthis,IguessheknewabouttheUFOquestionatthetimewhenhesaidit:“Bewareofthemilitary-industrialcomplex,”andheprobablyconcludedthatsomeoftheinformationfromtheETswasgettingintothewronghandsandthat,somehow,wehadtore-establishpubliccontroloverwhatwasgoingon.Paola:Well,youhavegivenussomehopeand,inEurope,mostofusareonehundredpercentbehindyouandwewillbewaitingforthisbook.WeneedtodevelopaphilosophyofExopoliticsonagrass-rootslevel.Havingsomeoneofyourcaliberspeakhelpsvalidatethisexopoliticalview.Itwillhelpnotonlyusbutalsothewhole,entireplanet.Thankyou.Hellyer:Let’shopewecanworktogetheranddosomething.

TheDeathoftheFourthEstate:InterviewwithDr.StevenGreerThroughexopoliticalactivistslikeStevenBassettandDr.MichaelSalla,weapplaudanewdecadeof

contact,throughcitizendiplomacy,withtheExtraterrestrialintelligentbeingswhoareactiveonandaroundtheEarthforseveraldecadesatleast,whoseemtoharbornohostileorpredatorydesigns.Onthecontrary,someofthematleastexhibitrealconcernforoursurvivalasaspeciesandfortheecologicalhealthoftheplanet.Lt.ColonelWendelleStevens(USAF,Rtd.)isoneexpertwhohasanalyzeddatacollectedoversixtyyears,leadinghimtotheconclusionthattheExtraterrestrialswhovisitushavepeacefulintentions.

Thedialoguebetweencivilizationswillhavetoinclude,soonerorlater,thosebeingsandculturesthatarenothuman,butinthe“homosapiens”category,butwhichclearlyhaveapresenceonourplanetandastakeinthefutureofterrestrialandhumanlife.Thisissuemustbebroughtintothemainstream.Itcannolongerremainconfinedtofringegroupsof“Spiritualists,”“NewAgers”ordedicated“Ufologists.”Neithercanitbelefttothecareofsecretiveandshadowymilitaryorganizationsthatareprimarilydevotedtoexpandingthepowerofthestatestheyserveand,thereby,theirowninfluenceandresources.Inhisfarewellmessagetothenation,PresidentEisenhowerwarnedofthedangerposedbytheuncontrolledambitionandgreedoftheUS(andtransnational)“military-industrialcomplex,”Beingajournalist,IfindtheMediamoreresponsibleforthecover-upthantheMilitary.IfindthatmanyjournalistsarelackinginasacredresponsibilitytoprinttheTruth,especiallyasitwascourageouslypresentedbythemilitarywitnessesofStevenGreer’sDisclosureProjectonMay9,2001.Amomentthatcouldhavechangedhistorywaslost.

IreallyunderstoodPaulHellyer’sconcernthatdedicatedpeoplelikeDr.StevenGreerneededtobetakenseriouslyandthatthewitnessesoftheDisclosureProjectneededtobeheard,perhapsinCanada.SinceIhelpedStevenwithfilmingthewitnessesinItaly,Irealizedwhatahugesacrificethesepeoplemade.SoIwaselatedwhenDr.GreerwenttoCanadatoappearwithPaulHellyerinafollow-upmeetinginMay2006,fiveyearsaftertheWashingtonmediaevent.Iwashopingitwouldbeamajormediaeventbutinsteadtherewaslittlemediaworld-coverage.Therearereasonsforthis,asStevenGreerdiscussesthisverysubjectwithmeinhiscabininCrestone,Colorado,duringCSETItraining.Heis,perhaps,themostpowerfullyarticulatemananyjournalistwillmeet.InthefollowinginterviewhediscusseswhythecensorshipofthemosttaboosubjectonEarth,UFOs.TheDeathoftheFourthEstateInterviewwithStevenGreerCrestone,ColoradoJuly4,2005Paola:Yousaidyouwereworkingonthreethings.Whatarethey?Greer:CSETI,theAmbassadorstotheUniverseprogram;theotheristheDisclosureProject.WearestilldoingtheDisclosureProjectbecausewehaveawebsitewithtenmillionpeopleonit.Peopledon’trealizethattheDisclosureProjectvideohasbeenseenbymorepeoplethanseeCNNeverynight.IamstillmeetingwithmembersofCongresswithinthelastyear,tryingtosay,“Look,thisinformationexistsanditisnotonlyrelatedtoUFOsandextraterrestrialsbutalsotoalternativeenergiesandpropulsionsystemsthatwouldsolvemostofourproblems.”So,DisclosurestillhastogoonandwehaveaDisclosureRepresentativesProgram.WehavedozensofpeopleallovertheworldwhohostDisclosureProjectscreeningsandmeetings.Sothatisstillgoingon.WewouldlovetodoDisclosureII.Ihaveyettounderstandthat,afterwedidtheDisclosureProjecteventin2001,wedoubledthenumberofmilitaryassetsintermsofthenumberofwitnessesbecausetheycameoutofthecloset.Asamatteroffact,a

retiredAirForcegeneral,whohasknowledgeofthesecovertprograms,isoneofthem.Theproblemisthatwedonothavethefundingtodoit.Wehavegottofindasourceofinstitutionalsupportandfundingtobeabletodothenextlevelofitorit’simpossibletocarryforward.ThereisnofundingforanythingseriousandthisisthetragedyofthewholeUFOmovement.Ithasbecomeacarnivalandcaricatureofitselfyetwearedealingwithincrediblyimportantthingsandmyunderstandingisthattheintelligencecommunity,whichreallydoesruntheUFOsubculture,wantstokeepitthatway.Now,whatI’dliketodointhenextyearortwoisdoanotherlevelofdisclosure,wherewewouldbringinsomeofthenewtop-secretwitnesseswehaveandgovernmentofficials,includingaformerClintonAdministrationofficial.Alsointechnology,wherewecanbringinscientistswhocantestifytotheexistenceofsourcesofenergyandpropulsionsystemsandhowtheyhavebeensystematicallyacquiredandsuppressedbylargetransnationalcorporateinterests.WehavedevelopedTheOrionProjectcreatingclearenergysolutionstoempowerthe21stCentury.Mostpeoplepost9/11reallydon’tcareifthereareUFOsandETsoutthere.ThemajorityofAmericansbelieveUFOsarerealanyway.Theyjustdon’tknowwhattomakeofit.You’vegottoconnectittosomethingmeaningful.Thefactisthatitismeaningfulbecausethereareenormousimplicationstothesecrecyandthesecrecyisnotbecauseoftheextraterrestrialcomponent.Thesecrecyisbecauseofthetechnologythatwouldmakeobsoletealltheoilandgasandcoalpowerintheworld.Paola:WhatIamsayingisthatitmaynotbepossibletodohere.MaybeCanada.DidyouevendreamofdoingDisclosureIIinCanada?Greer:Now,Iamgoingtosaysomethingherethatpeoplehatetohear.Youcannotdothiswithoutthedominantpower,theonlysuperpowerintheworld.WehaveprojectsinNorwayandCanada.ThedominantpoweristheAmericanTransnationalCorporateMachine.WhatItellpeopleis––geographyisirrelevant!Paola:ButtheMediawouldopenitupthere!Greer:Ithinkthatwhatmostpeopledon’trealizeisthattheissuewearedealingwithhasnogeographicalboundariesandhasn’thadfordecades.Paola:WeneedtheMediasupport,don’twe?Greer:Ofcourse.Itwouldhavetheseedfundingweaskedfor.WecouldhavehadtheinitialleveloftheDisclosureProjectinWashington,thenmovethewholethingtoCanada,andtoRomeandSwitzerlandandtheseplaces.TherewastheChinesenewsmediathattookitseriously.Youcannotignore110topmilitary,top-secretguyswhoarecosmonauts,brigadiergeneralsandsoon.Youcannotignorethesepeople!Andtheotherproblemisthatthemajormediaiscorruptandisthemostcorruptinstitutionintheworld.Paola:HowdoesthisaffectDisclosure?Greer:Ifyouweretoaskmewhatisthelargestproblemwithgettingdisclosureoutandgettingthesetechnologiesouttotheworld,itisnottheWhiteHouse,itisnottheCongress,itisnottheUN,itisn’ttheParliament;itistheMediawhich,indemocracies,wassupposedtobetheFourthEstate,whichmeans,oneofthe“watchdogs”ofchecksandbalancestotheotherthreebranchesofgovernment:thejudiciary,theexecutiveandthelegislative.ThatiswheretheFourthEstateconceptcamefrom.IhaveamanwhowasontheboardofAOL,TimeWarnerandCBS,whotoldme,in1992,basically,“TheFourthEstateisdead!WehavenoFourthEstate.”IhadaWashingtonPostreporterfranklytellmethatnothingimportantwilleverbepublishedinthemajormedia.Lookatourwebsite,whereItalkaboutthePeterJenningsspecial,andyouwillseealinktoaCIAdocumentthatwassenttomerecentlythisyear,thatwasdated1991,duringthefirstBushpresidency.Itclearlydescribes,onpagesix,ifIremembercorrectly,thatthere

areassetsthattheintelligencecommunityhasateverymajornewsmediaintheworld,tokill,changeoralterstoriestheywanttocontrol.Theproblemisthecorruptionofthenewsmediaandthelackofatrulyfreepressatlarge.Now,theminormediaisirrelevant.Themajormediaiscorporateandtheyareshillsfortheshadowy,transnational,para-governmentalentityandtheproblemwiththatisthatwearelivinginapseudo-democracy,wherethepeoplecannotgettheinformation.IhavesaidseriouslyrecentlythatGeorgeSorosandothersneedtocomeforwardandputabillionortwointoa“new”mediaempire.IsaidthisshouldbecalledtheDisclosureNetworkNews.DNNinsteadofCNNandbasicallysay,“OK.WeneedtobeabletohavetheassetstopourthisinformationintothePublictoeducatethemtowhatisreallygoingon:CorporateAmerica,orCorporateItalyorCorporateJapan.”

Whyisthissecrecygoingon?Whoissittingonthetechnologiesandwhatthetruthis?Itisnotgoingtohappen.Themajormediarightnowarehorizontallyandverticallyintegratedwithcorporateintereststhatdonotwantthisinformationout.Oneofthefundamentalproblemswiththenotionthatwearelivinginademocracywithoutafreepress,withoutatrulyfreepressthatisnotcorruptedbythesesecretiveinterests,isthatitisverydifficultforthemassestoknowwhatisreallyhappening.Forthatreason,itmakesamockeryoutofDemocracy.ItisinterestingthatI’mtalkingaboutthisonthe4thofJuly.Ithinkthatwhateveryonehastounderstandisthatwehavetogetsomeseriouslycommittedpeople:financially,professionallyandwithtalentinthemedia,tosay,“Look!Wereallyhavetodosomeseriousexposés.Forinstance:thisAOLexecutivetoldmethathegavesomeofthesecretUFODocumentstoMikeWallace,of60MinutesTVshow,themostfamousinvestigativereportingshowintheworld,whowantedtodoaspecial.MikeWallacewasconsideringdoingsomethingonitbuttheypulledtheplugonit.

DuringtheDisclosureProjectevent,theexecutiveproducerofABCNews,whowasthefinalcallguyonPrimetimeLiveand20/20,toldmehewantedtodoanhourspecialinvolvingthesetop-secretwitnesses.AfewweekslaterIcalledhimonthatandIasked,“Whatareyoudoingonthat?”andhesaid,“Welltheywon’tletmedoit!”“Whoarethey?”Hereplied,“Dr.Greer,youknowwhotheyare!”

Ihaveseenthisupcloseandpersonalwiththeworld’smedia,notjustwiththeUSmedia.IhaveseenitwiththeBBCinEnglandandothercountries.Theinabilityforevenpeoplewhoarehighlyplacedwithinthenewsmediatobeunabletobeallowedbytheircorporatemasterstotellthetruthisappalling.So,sincewedonothaveatrulyfreemedia,theFourthEstatehasbeenassassinatedessentially.Youhaveamockeryofdemocracybecausethatisthe“ChecksandBalance”systemthatisnolongerthere.

TheBentwatersUFOCase:TestimonyofStevenRobertLaPlumeTheBentwaterscase(www.therendleshamforestincident.com)isveryfascinating.Asdestinywould

haveit,IactuallyheardfrombothaparticipantandawitnesswhowereontheBentwatersBaseinEnglandatthetime.SteveLaPlume,whonowlivesinChina,heardmeontheCoasttoCoastshowwithGeorgeNoory,in2005.Hecontactedmeimmediatelyandtrustedmewiththefollowingtestimony:“I,StevenRobertLaPlume,onthisthirddayofFebruary2005,wishtodeclarethefollowingas

trueregardingtheeventsonandatRAFBentwatersfromDecember26,1980toJanuary30,1981.“Iwitnessedmembersfromanotherflightenteringthedayroomatabout10:00a.m.,threehours

aftertheirshiftended.TheywereverydistraughtwhenaskedabouttheirencounterwithaUFOtheshiftbefore.“Also,LarryWarrenrelatedtometheeventsofafewnights,whichentailedthesightingofaUFO,

thefactthatthelightswerenotworkingproperlyandalsothathewitnessedacraft,threebeings,andaColonelcommunicatingwiththebeings.HealsomentionedthattherewasfilmdocumentationandthatpartswereflowninfromGermanytohelpfixthedownedcraft.ThiswasinearlyJanuaryof1981.“Ihadasubsequentsightingwhichbroughtoutamassofhigh-rankingofficials,oneofwhich

broughthiswifeandteenagedsonto:‘Hopefullygettoseeonethistime!’[QuotebytheLt.Colonel’swife.]Thebasecommander,ColonelGordonWilliams,(promotedbyCongressthedaybeforetoGeneral),wasalsopresentandIadvisedhimmypostwasthen‘safeandsecure,’asinstructedbymyshiftcommander,Lt.Englund.“AfterLarryWarrencameupmissingforafewdaysandtoldmeofhis“interrogationprocedure”

andIconfirmedIwasbeingfollowedbystill-unknown(tome)agents,Ifeltitinmybestinteresttotrashmycareer,losefacewithmyfather,amilitarymansinceWorldWarII,andleavethebaseandtheUSAirForceformyownpersonalsafety.Ifeltsostronglyofthis,Ifakedasuicideattemptandcutopenmyownstomachtoprovemypointandreceiveadischarge,whichIdid.Ihavenoregretsoverthisaction.“Mypersonalthoughtsarethatiftherewassomething,itwasathreattotheordinancewehoused

atthebase.Iftherewasnothing,thentherewasmasshysteriaandtheentiresquadronofSecurityPolicewasmentallyunfittobeinthepositionofresponsibilitywewerechargedwith.Iftherewasnothing,thenwhywouldtheAssistantBaseCommanderofWoodbridgebringhisfamilyouttotakepicturesofaUFO,iftherewasnothingtheretobeginwith?Andwhywouldarecently-promotedGeneralWilliamsgetoutofbedatmidnighttocomeinvestigateaswell?”--StevenRobertLaPlumeAirmanFirstClassassignedtothe81stSecurityPoliceSquadronNovember4,1980–April10,1981

Pictured:StevenRobertLaPlume

Thisispowerfultestimonyfromafirst-handwitnessandthatistheonlytestimonyIusuallyconsidervalid,sowhenpeoplealwaysaskmeif“IbelieveinUFOs,”Isayitisnotamatterofbelief.Peopleseethem.Thereishardevidence.Icannotignorethistestimonyoranytestimonygiventomebymilitaryorex-militarywitnesses.IhavebeenluckythatIhavebeenabletospeaktopeople,likeSgt.CliffordStoneathishome,informallyonseveraloccasions;thattheytrustmetogiveanaccurateaccountoftheirdisclosuretestimony.TheHynekMethodofResearch:Laugh,Laugh,Study,Study

Ineverknewhowmuchhereallyknewfromwhathetoldus,hisfriends.Heprobablyknewmorethanhecouldsaybuthewouldneverraisehisvoice.HeonceautographedformeapaperhewrotecalledTheUFOPhenomena:LaughLaugh,StudyStudy.LittledidheknowIwoulddothisandremainagreatfanofhis.J.AllenHynekwasmytrueinspiration.Hewouldneverattackhisdetractorsinpublic.Hewouldnevermakeharshjudgments.Hewouldnevergiveyouafinaldecision.Allen,aswecalledhim,wasatrue“gentleman.”Hewouldlistentoallourideas.Italwaysamazesmehowthose,whoneverpersonallyknewJ.AllenHynek,attempttowriteabouthim.Hewasforeverembarrassedbythe“swampgas”hypothesis.

No!HedidnotalwaysrepresenttheofficialpartylineUfology,butIfoundhimextremelyprogressive.Ifhewantedtorepresentnational“partylineUfology;”HynekwouldhaveremainedwithBlueBookandtheUnitedStatesAirForcestudy.Hereceivedmuchcriticisminhislifeforhishesitationtocrosstotheotherside.But,thenhehadfivemouthstofeedandabrilliantastronomycareerasaprofessortothinkabout.Forallouradorationofscienceandscientists,weknowfewwhocanreallyrisktheirfundingtotelltheworldthetruth.Itistheywhokeepthesecretandmaintainthestatusquo.

ItisuselesstoportrayscienceaslegitimizingUfologyandAllenwouldtellyouthat.Hewasanuncommonscientist,asitwashewhotoldmethattheUFOrealtywasfilledwithparanormalphenomenaandthatIneededtoreconsiderthatfactinmyfinalassessment.Inthebeginning,Ididn’tagree,asIwasa“nutsandbolts”researcher.InowadmitthatitscaredmeanditwasnotuntillaterthatIrealizedthatthiselement,theparanormalfactor,istheonethatdrivesscientistscrazy.Theycannotmeasurethisdimensioninanylaboratory.

MylifewithAllenHynekbeganwhenIwalkedintotheCUFOSofficesinEvanston,Illinois,in1981,andaskedifIcouldseehowheorganizedthefiles,filesthatheconsideredanomaliesfromhis“BlueBook”days.

Hequicklygavemeaguidedtour,askedifIwantedtobetrainedasaninvestigatorandaskedifI

couldtranslatealltheItaliansightings.Withinamonth,heboughtmeatypewriterandsentboxesoffilestomyBoulder,Coloradohouse.HewouldvisitoftenandbringMimiandsometimesguests.OnetimehebroughtJennyRandlesandwespokeabouttheBentwaterscaseoverdinner.Manytimeswewouldtalk

intothenightabouttheobstacleshehadtoovercomeandtheresentmentofotherinvestigators,whothoughthecameonboardtoolate.Hereallylovedtonetworkwithpeopleand,havingthesameastrologicalsign,sodoI.Hetraveledallaroundtheworldandwasverylovedandrespected.IwastrainedfirstinChicago,asaFieldInvestigator,andIhadaCUFOSidentificationcard.Iwasprivilegedenoughtobeveryclosetohisprivatesecretary,EstellePostol.Shewasamazing,assheknewhimwellandhelpedenormouslyintheoffice.WeworkedcloselywhenIwouldflyintoChicago,orratherEvanston,tobetrainedasaninvestigatorbutlikeallofusthen,wewerelookingfortherealprivilegedinformation.

Pictured:PaolaHarrisandEstellePostol,attheCUFOSofficeinEvanston,Illinois.

Pictured:J.AllenHynek,SantaFe,NewMexico.

Pictured:PaolaHarriswithJ.AllenHynekatNCAR,Boulder,Colorado,1982.AllenHynekwasarenegadeandafreethinkerandwewerebothTauruswithSagittariusrisings.He

cameinwithHalley’scometandexitedwithitin1986.IknewhimandhiswifeMimiverywell,astheyweremydearfriendswhenIlivedinBoulder,Colorado,inthe1980s.OneyearwewentonvacationtogetherinSantaFe,NewMexico,andItooksomefineportraitsofthembutIthinkIhadasenseofhistoryaboutthismeetingasAllendiedsometimelaterandthatvacationwasa“gift”inourcommunalexperience.IrememberdancingtheTangowithhim,whilemycompanion,Russ,dancedwithMimi.Allenwasafinedancerandafinegentleman.

Photos:MimiandAllenHynek,SantaFe,NMThe“in-fighting”amongUFOresearcherscontinuesanditseemsimpossible,inthisworldof

jealousiesandenvyandpersonalaggrandizement,toworktogether.SomuchsothatColonelPhilipCorsooncesaidthat“theGovernmentdoesnotneeddebunkersanddisinformationtechniques,sincetheUfologistsfightamongthemselvesanddoitwell.”Hetoldmethatthelackofcooperationandhashjudgmentswoulddelaythedisclosureforwho-knows-how-long,tothegovernment’samusement.

AllenHynekwouldbesadtodaytoseethisbecauseaunitedfrontbringsstrength.Intheletterbelow,weseeAlleninterestedintheBentwaterscaseandhismentionofJamesMcDonald,ascientistandearlypioneerinthefieldofUFOinvestigations.SoIhaveorganizedthisaroundBentwaters,UK,UFOlanding,1980,withthecourageousstatementsenttomebyafirst-handwitness,StevenRobertLaPlume,whowasthere.Dr.Hynekdidhisowninvestigation,asweseefromthesedeclassifiedlettersfromtheBlueBookarchives.Dr.Hynek’sInquiryintotheBentwatersCase

Itisthroughtheworkofthisgreatpioneerandpersonalfriendthatthissubjectcametothesurface.

Herearesomedeclassifiedlettersfromthegreatastronomer-researcherJ.AllenHynek,whichcoveravarietyofevents.LetterfromCapt.GregorytoJ.AllenHynek,November26,1956Box97031125thFAG(ATIC)Wright-PattersonAFBOhioNovember26,1956Dr.J.AllenHynekSmithsonianAstrophysicalObservatory60StreetCambridge38,MassachusettsDearDr.Hynek:

ReferenceismadetomyletterofNovember20,1956,inwhichIstatedthatIwouldsendyouthefinalizedmaterialontheUFOcase.EnclosedyouwillfindAF112onthefinalinvestigationsregardingthissighting.Iamrelievedtofindthattheycarryitunderan‘unclassified’category.This,ofcourse,helpsusinboththediscussionandtransmittalaspects.

Ihaveincludedaroughplotofthethreeradarsandonevisualobservationofthesightings.Thisshouldbeofsomehelpforyourreviewandcomment.Thesesightings,inmyopinion,cannotbeconsideredconcurrentwithrespecttotime.Theseparatereportofeachobserverindicatesthreewidelydivergenttracks.AnattemptedinterceptbyAmericanairplanes,whichlastedfor45minutes,producednophysicalevidenceofanyUFOinthearea.ThevisualobservationleadsmetobelievethattheobserverwasseeingMars.Also,thereappearstohavebeensomecontact(Idonotwishtousetheword‘collusion’)betweentheoperatorsoftworadarstations,sincetheybothstatespeedofexactly4000m.p.h.

Ifeel,therefore,thatouroriginalanalysesofanomalouspropagationandastronomicalismoreorlesscorrect.Iwillconsiderthiscasecloseduponreceiptofyourfinalcomment,atwhichtimeIwillmakeacompiled,finalconclusionfortheAirForce.

Awordconcerningyourproposedvisit.AsthingsarenowitseemsimprobablethatanyplanscanbemadebeforethebeginningofJanuary.--Sincerely,s/sCapt.GregoryBlueBookMemorandumbyDr.J.AllenHynekOct17,1956,T56-24219ClassifiedCONFIDENTIAL,changedtoUNCLASSIFIED,effectiveMarch15,1968,undertheauthorityofAFR205-1,para2-176(ii),byMajorHectorQuintanillaJr.MEMORANDUMFORRECORDSUBJECT:(C)EvaluationofLakenheathReports

TheoriginalLakenheathreportsandthepreliminaryevaluationsmadebyATICweresubmittedtotheundersignedforexamination,evaluationandcomment.WriterrequestedpermissiontodiscussthesewithDr.F.L.Whipple,HarvardUniversity,anddirectoroftheSmithsonianAstrophysicalObservatory,inview

ofthefactthatthesightingsoccurredatthetimeofPerseidmeteorsandDr.Whippleisaworld-recognizedauthorityonmeteors.Followingcommentswillaccordinglybeinvitedtocoverthethreepointsseparately.

Itistoberegrettedthatsounusualasightingreportdidnotcontainmorefactualmaterialonwhichtobaseanevaluation.TheLakenheathreportisoneofthemoreunusualreports,involvingelectronicandvisualobservationsandsubsequentpursuitbyfighterplane.Yet,reportdoesnotstatewhetheritwasdefinitelyestablishedthatvisualandelectronicsightingsreferredtosameobject,oreveniftheyoccurredpreciselysimultaneously.Further,reportdoesnotgiveexactweatherinformation,whichmightenableonetochargeweatherconditionswithanyprecisionrelativeto“anomalouspropagation,”suchasfrequentlyoccurswithradars.

Itwouldbeofextremevaluetohaveindependentstatementsfromthevariousobservers,bothatBentwatersandLakenheath.Reportstatesthatobserversweretrafficcontrollersandintelligencespecialists.Ananalystwouldbegreatlyaidedbyhavingindependentstatementsfromsuchhighlytrainedobservers,astheoriginalreportindicatestheobserverswere.

Theimplicationoftheoriginalreportisthattheobjectsweresightedsimultaneouslybyground-visual,air-electronicandground-electronicmeans.Yet,reportnowherestatesstellarmagnitudeofvisualsightingsornatureofradarblips.Angularrateofmotionofobjectsislikewisenotincluded.

Withtheaboveinmind,thepreliminaryreportsubmittedbyCapt.Gregorycoversthecaseaswellasitpossiblycouldunderthecircumstances.Thepresentwriter,uponmoredetailedexaminationofthereport,andacceptingtheimplicationsoftheoriginalreportintheabsenceofspecificstatements,isledtodiffersomewhatfrompreliminaryreport.Itseemshighlyunlikely,forinstance,thatthePerseidmeteorscouldhavebeenthecauseofthesightings,especiallyinviewofthestatementofobserversthatshootingstarswereexceptionallynumerousthatevening,thusimplyingthattheywereabletodistinguishthetwophenomena.Further,ifnowanycredencecanbegiventothemaneuveroftheobjectsassightedvisuallyandbyradar,themeteorhypothesismustberuledout.

Meteors,however,aspointedoutbyCapt.Gregory,canleadtoradarreturnsbecauseoftheionizationofthegasesintheirtrail.AccordinglyitwouldbeextremelyimportanttoknowwhethertheBentwatersandLakenheathradarshaveever,inthepast,observedmeteorsontheirscopesand,ifso,howsuchreturnsdifferfromtheblipsreported.

Dr.WhippleandthewriterdiscussedtheLakenheathincidentatlengthandDr.Whipplepointedoutimmediatelythestatement“radarsreportedthesefactstooccuratlaterhoursthanthegroundobservers.”Thisstatementneedsclarification,inasmuchasitcontradictsotherportionsofthereport,whichindicatethat,atleastatcertaintimes,visualandradarsightingsweresimultaneous.

Dr.Whipplestatedthat,asfarasthereportathandisconcerned,noobviousphysicalsolutionissuggested.HedeploredtheinadequacyofthetypicalUFOreportasascientificdocument.HefurtherstatedthatthenatureofsuchreportsisnotlikelytochangeandurgedthatiftheAirForceisseriousinitsattemptstoresolvethisproblem,bothscientificallyandinthepublicmind,thattheAirForcedoesmorethancontinueitspassiveinvestigationalattitudes.Hesuggestedthat,asinanyscientificprocedure,factsaretherawmaterialfromwhichonemustworkandthat;ingeneral,theinvestigatorinanyparticularcasemustassumeanactiveroleintheobtainingofscientificdata.Inshort,Dr.WhippleaskedthewriterwhethertheAirForcehadeverconsidered,orwasnowconsidering,thepossibilityofinitiating,foralimitedtime,anactualskypatrolbyphotographicandvisualmeansofpreciselythoseareasfromwhichthemaximumUFOreportsoriginate.Thewriterrespondedthatthishadindeedbeensuggestedinthepastbutthatbecauseofconsiderationsofexpensesandofpossiblepublicmisinterpretation,itwasabandoned.

Dr.Whippleurgedthatamoremodestproposalofthesamegeneraltypebeconsideredatthistime.Forinstance,anareafromwhichnumerousreportshavecomeinmightbepatrolledbyadozenorso“fish-eye”cameras,operatingautomatically,whichwouldgiveatotalrecordofallbrightmovingobjects

atnightwithinagivenareaorsector.Asimpletimingdevicewouldsufficetoyieldtheangularrateofobjectsinmotionsothatfireballs(brightmeteors)couldbedistinguishedfromairplanesandfromotherastronomicalobjects.

ThepresentwritersubmitsthatitmightbeofconsiderablepotentialusetotheAirForcetobeabletostate,atsomefuturetime,thatacarefulpatrolofanarea“richinUFOreports”hadbeenaccomplishedandnothingofamysteriouscharacterphotographed.Thiswouldbeespeciallytrueif,duringthetimeofthepatrol,UFOreportsfromuntrainedobserverscontinuedtocomeinfromthatarea.--s/sJ.AllenHynekDr.J.AllenHynekSmithsonianAstrophysicalObservatoryUSAFUFOScientist-ConsultantOctober17,1956LetterfromDr.J.AllenHynektoDr.JamesE.McDonaldSeptember11,1970Dr.JamesMcDonaldDepartmentofAtmosphericSciencesTheUniversityofArizonaTucson,Arizona85721DearJim,

IhavebeengoingoveryourLakenheatharticleinFSR.Ihavegottenoutmyfilesonthecaseand,incidentally,ifyouarestillinterestedinthenamesthatwererazor-bladedoutofyourcopy,theA/2cwasJohnL.Vaccars,Jr.[sic]andtheTechnicalSergeantwasElmerL.Whenry.ThenamesofthetwointerceptorpilotswereFirstLieutenantCharlesV.MetzandFirstLieutenantAndrewC.Rowe.Incidentally,also,Ipersonallydismissedthemeteorhypothesisimmediately,asispointedoutintheCondonReport,page255oftheBantamedition.

However,all-thataside,maybeyouhavesomeinformationthatIdon’thaveaboutthecase,namelythethingthatwouldtiedownthepassageofanobjectfromeasttothewest,directlyoverBentwaters,simultaneouslyvisuallybythetoweroperatorsandbythepilotoverheadat4,000feet.InthelettertoCondon,allwehaveisathird-handstatement.Thewriterstates,“Hesaidthetowerreportedseeingitgoby…”Sothewriteristellingusthatheheardfromsomebodyelsethatthetoweroperatortoldhim.

NowtheBentwatersreport,whichcoverstheperiod2120to2220,saysnothingaboutanobjectpassingdirectlyoverhead,althoughVaccarsindicatesthatat2130,foraperiodof30seconds,hesawsomethinggofrom25to30mileseast-southeastofBentwatersandflyonaconstantcourseof295degreesto15to20mileswest-northwestofBentwaters.Thiscouldindicatethatitpassedoverhead,butnothingissaidoftheobjectdisappearingfromthescopewhichwouldmeanthatitdidnotpassdirectlyoverhead,foritwouldhavedisappearedforashorttimeifthatwerethecase.

TheLakenheathReportstatesthatat2255,Bentwaterssightedanobject30-mileseastofstationandthatthisobjectdiddisappear2-mileseastofstationandthenappeared3mileswestofstation.Nowcomesthecatch:“TowerpersonnelatBentwatersreportedtoGCAthatabrightlightpassedoverthefieldeasttowestatterrificspeedsandatabout4,000feetaltitude.”Butatnoplaceisitindicatedthatthiswasat2255.Thenextparagraphgoeson:“Atthesametime,pilotandaircraftat4,000feet...”That“atthesametime”seemstometorefernotto2255buttothetimetheTowerpersonnelreportedthebrightlightpassingoverthefield.

Haveyouinanywaybeenabletoestablishthattheradarandvisualsightingswereindeed

simultaneous?ThiswouldbeamostimportantpointinthiswholethingandI,indeed,hopethatyoucan.Nothinginmyrecords,however,reallypinsthisdown.

Iwonderwhetherthe2255mightinitselfbeinerror?ItseemsthatwithallthethingsgoingonatBentwatersfrom2120to2220,thatLakenheathwouldcertainlyhavebeenalertedearlierthan2255.Yet,thelettertoCondonindicatesthatLakenheathwasnotalerteduntiltheyhadsightedthetargetgoingdirectlyoverthem.Twopoints:whywouldhaveBentwaterswaitedsolongtoalertLakenheathandsecondly,whyisnotthe2255observation(ifitisreal)appearinginthereportfromCaptainHoltandapprovedbyMajorBixel?Inthatreportitisstated,“MostsignificantarethereportsofthreesourcesofUFObeamstrackedontheBentwatersGCAradar.”Itseemstomethatitwouldhavebeenmuchmoresignificanttohavereportedthesimultaneousvisualradarsightingbecauseavisualobjectswoopingbyatlowaltitudeandobservedfromthegroundandfrom,andbelow,anaircraft,andsimultaneouslytrackedonradarwouldhavebeenfarmoresignificantthantheradaralonesightingsbetween2120and2220.Whatdoyouthink?

Ifthe2255should,indeed,be2155,itwouldtieinwiththefirstperiodofBentwaterssightings(ifthereweretwoperiods)butwhy,inthiscase,wouldnotCaptainHolthavementionedit?

Anylightthatyoucanshedonthismostimportantcasewouldbeappreciated.Iampleasedthatyoudidmentioninyourarticle,mymemorandum,whichstronglyurged“thatfurther

informationonthetechnicalaspectsoftheoriginalobservationbeobtained,withoutlossoftime…”Needlesstosay,nothingwhateverwasdoneandyouwouldhavehadtoknowCaptainGregory…(hisoneandonlyaiminlifewastobecomeMajor)andhecertainlywasnotgoingtodoanythingwhatevertogoagainstthePentagon,whichhadbeentoldinnouncertaintermsbytheRobertsonPanelthattherewasnothingtothewholesubject.Butthen,youneverhaveunderstoodthisandprobablyneverwill.Orperhapsyouarebeginningtounderstandsomewhatasyounotethatyourserious,strong,andImightsayevenemotional,attemptstohavethemilitaryandthescientificestablishmenttakethesubjectseriously,havenotexactlymetwithoutstandingsuccess.Andyettheclimateforacceptancetodayis,inmyopinion,anorderofmagnitudemorefavorable.

OnethingIwillalwayshavetothankyouforandthatisthedayyoucametomyofficeandpoundedthedeskandsaid,“Allen,howcouldyousitonthisdatafor18yearsandnotletusknowaboutit?”Itwaslikearevelationtome.Here,atlast,wasfinallyonerealscientistwhowastakingthesubjectseriously!Uptothatpoint,Iwasbecomingobsessedwiththeideathat“everybodywasoutofstepbutJohnny”anditwasagreatspiritualuplifttofind,atlonglast,anotherscientistseriouslylookingatit.IwillfreelyadmitthatIoriginallyapproachedthesubjectveryskepticallyforthefirstdecadeorso,largelybecause,asyouwellknow,BlueBookdataweresoabysmallypoorandnoattemptwasevermadetoupgradethem,evenwhenIrepeatedlysuggestedthis.So,despiteyourcriticisms,IdohavemuchtothankyouforandIhopewemayworktogetherproductivelyinthefuture.--Sincerelyyourss/sJ.AllenHynekDirectorJAH/alCC:CharlesBowen

InterviewwithBetsyMcDonald,WifeofDr.JamesMcDonaldIthankMrs.McDonaldforthisinterviewfor,inlightofherhusband’ssuicide,Icametoknowhis

couragethroughher.AllenHynekalsorespectedhimandthisexchangeshowsthecaliberofscientistsinterestedinaseriousstudyofthisphenomena.But,theyarenotallscientists,aswewillseeinthenextinterviews.Theyarepeoplewhoareaware;awakeonacosmiclevel.Therearesomanymen,womenandchildreninvolvedonaplanetarylevel.

HavinglivedinRome,Italy,forfourteenyears,Iamwitnesstothis.IhavespokeninRomeandTorinoinItaly;inMarseillesandArgellessurMerinFrance;inLocarnoandLuganoinSwitzerland;inDüsseldorf,Germany;inLincolnshireandBlackpoolinEngland.Intelligentpeopletheworldoverareaskingthesameobviousquestions.ItisamazinghowmuchoftheUFOliteraturetheyreadandhowmanyInternetsitescarryinformation.MywebsiteistranslatedintoItalian,German,French,EnglishandSpanish[www.paolaharris.com].InterviewwithBetsyMcDonaldWifeofDr.JamesMcDonald,EarlyPioneerinUFOResearchX-Conference,Washington,D.C.April23,2005“HedidsaythatifUFOswerehostile,itwouldmaybeunitepeoplearoundtheworldashumanbeings,ratherthanfightingoneanother.UFOsshouldbestudied.”––BetsyMcDonald

Pictured:BetsyMcDonaldandPaolaHarris,2005.Paola:DidyouknowDr.J.AllenHynek?McDonald:No.Inevermethim.Paola:Didyourhusbandevertalkabouthim?McDonald:Ohyes.IrememberwhenMacfirstmethimandthefactthatHynekwasnotasopenasMacthoughtheshouldbe.Hetoldhimthatheshouldn’tbeafraid.Paola:Didhethinkitwasfear?McDonald:Irememberitwasfear.Hynekhadadaughterincollegeandhewasworriedthathehadtoputherthroughcollegeandhethoughthisworkwouldhavesomerepercussions.Mactoldhimnottoworryandthatheshouldnotbeafraid.

Paola:WasyourhusbandupsetwiththeCondonreport?McDonald:Ohyes,definitely.Paola:Didhedemonstratethatathome?McDonald:Ohyes.Isortofremembertherewasamemobyaperson[named]Lore,whichprovedthatCondonhadbasicallyagreedtodebunkUFOs.Paola:Whowasthememobyagain?McDonald:Youknow,whentheGovernmentwasgoingtobegivingagrantof,Ithink,ahalfamilliondollarsfortheinvestigationofUFOs,IremembersayingtoMac,“Well,youarethemostprominentpersondoingworkonUFOs.Itshouldgotoyou!”Instead,itwenttoCondon.Itoldhim,“Thisiswhathappenstoyou.Everytimeyoudothework,thensomebodyelsegetsthemoney.”Paola:Well,hewasdoinghonestwork,Betsy.Washeafraid?Didheevercomehomesaying,“Thisismakingmenervous”?McDonald:No!Hethoughtitshouldallbeopenandaboveboard.Itwasascientificquestion.Thatwashispoint.Thatwashismissioninasense,Ithink,asfarasUFOsareconcerned.Hewantedtomakeitascientificquestionthatshouldbetakenupbyscience.Asamatteroffact,hetriedtogettheNationalScienceFoundationtotakeitup.Hedidn’tsucceedinthat.Paola:Whatwasthereasontheygavehimthattheywouldn’ttakeitup?McDonald:Idon’trecallthedetails.Basicallythatwashisideal.Hewentaroundtometeorologicalsocieties,engineeringsocietiesandotherscientificbodies.Hewastryingtoshowthatthisshouldbeconsideredascientificquestion.Paola:Itisascientificquestion.Hethoughtthatthereshouldbeobservationpostscreatedaroundtheworldforsightings,right?McDonald:Forsightings.Paola:Whatwashistitle?Hewasaphysicist?McDonald:HistitlewasthathewasaseniorscientistattheInstituteforAtmosphericPhysics.HecametotheUniversityofArizonatofoundtheInstituteofAtmosphericPhysics,buthewasnottheadministrativetype.Hewasaresearcher.

Pictured:Dr.JamesMcDonald.PhotocourtesyBetsyMcDonald.Paola:Thatisveryinteresting.Hewasacourageousman.Didheknowhewasgoingtobeaherowhenhewasworkingatthis?Thathewasworkingagainstthegrain?McDonald:Myhusbandwasnaiveaboutthis.Hewasidealistic.Peoplehadbeentalkingabouttheconspiracy.Ioftenthinkofhisphilosophyasthe“philosophyoftheenlightenment.”IntheearlydaysinCapitalism,everyonewasoptimisticabouttheIdeal.Ifyoutellthetruth,theywillacceptitandworkonit.Paola:Sohehadtheideathatifwetellthetruththentheywouldworkonit.Sohewas,basically,intoTruth!McDonald:Right.That’sthewayhewas!Paola:SoheneversawthisasamatterofNationalSecurity,thatthesevehiclesweresoadvancedthattheycouldposeathreattotheUnitedStates?Heneversawthat?McDonald:No.Hedidsay,whenhespentalotoftimeinUFOresearchanditwasseparatefromhisjob,thatiftheywerehostileitwouldmaybeunitepeoplearoundtheworldashumanbeings,ratherthanfightingoneanother.Paola:Thenwewouldhaveacommonenemy?Didhethinktheywerehostile?McDonald:No!Hedidnotsaythat.Whathesaidwas:“Theyshouldbestudied.”

Paola:Didheleavematerialsbehind?DidhewanttowriteanybooksonUFOs?McDonald:No,hemadespeechesandwrotearticles.Paola:Whoaresomeofthepeopleheadmiredmostinthefield?McDonald:Idon’tknow.HeworkedinNICAPalot.HelikedDickHall.HeadmiredBobWood.HewaswithMcDonaldDouglas,youknow.Therewerenottoomanypeopleinthefieldthen.Paola:Whatyearsarewetalkinghere?McDonald:Hediedin1971,soitwasthelate1960s––early1970swhenhedidhiswork.Hedidalotofcases.HehadgonetoProjectBlueBookwhenProjectBlueBookclosed.Hestayedthereadayortwoandpickedoutaboutahundredcasesthathethoughtwouldbethebesttostudy,withradar,multiplewitnessesandsoforth.Sohehadsomecaseswhenhediedandtherewasn’treallyanybodytodothem.TheonlypersonthatIgavethecopiestowasinAustraliabutIneverheardfromhimagain.Hewasascientist,becauseMacwascountingonsciencetodoit.Paola:Ihesitatetotouchthequestionofyourhusband’sdeathbecauseeverybodyhasaboutahundredquestionsaroundit.Doyouhaveanyparticularfeelingaboutthat?McDonald:Well,itwasacomplicatedthing.Hehadbeensuicidalbefore…beforehestudiedUFOs,sothatwasinhismakeup.Paola:Hewasveryintelligent.Alotofpeoplewhohaveacertainintelligenceareverysensitive.McDonald:Iwouldsayhewasaccomplished.AnnDruffelwroteabouthimextensivelyinthebookFirestorm,byGranitePublishing.Paola:Inhislifetime,werethepeopleheworkedwithsincere,likehim?McDonald:Well,theyarepoliticians!Therewasaninterest,Ithink.Attimes,morecameoutthancomesoutnow,fromwhatIhearatthisconference(X-Conference,April2005).Morewaspublishedthen.Paola:Morecameoutbutthepublicwasmisinformed.Today,thepublicisinformedbutthegovernmentisnotcomingoutanymore.Iftheycameout,theywouldjusthavetoadmitit;solet’snotplayanymoregames,becausethepublicisinformednow.Soiftheyhadsomethingtocomeoutwith,itwouldjustbetheadmission.Itwouldbenothingelse;theadmissionthatwehavetheevidence.McDonald:Probably,butmyhusbandwasanindependentscientistwhowasnottiedinwithanyofthebusinessinterestsorcorporationsoroutsideinterests,whichinfluencepeopletoday.Itwasanearliertime.Hestillhadtogetgrants.HegotaNavygrant.HehadbeenintheNavy.HelostthatgrantdoingUFOwork.HelostwhenhewenttoAustraliaanditwasmadepublic.TheGrantwasdroppedinthelatesixties,whentheAustraliannewspapersreportedthathewasdiscussingUFOswithAustralians.Paola:Sohesufferedfinanciallybecauseofthis,too?Didheeverhaveasightinghimself,ever?McDonald:No!Hewouldhavetoldme.Paola:Haveyoueverhadasighting?McDonald:NoPaola:Sohisinterestpurelycomesfromscientificcuriosity?McDonald:Alotofpeoplethatherespectedhad,andtheywouldtellhimthattheyhad,sightings.Theycametohimbecausehewasveryopenandpeoplewouldcometohimandtellhim.Thatiswhenhebecameinterested.Paola:Ifyouhadtotelltheworldsomethingaboutyourhusband,James––youcalledhimMac––what

wouldyoutellthemthat,ifhewerestandinghere,hewouldwantyoutotellthem?McDonald:Hewasascientist.Hewasidealisticandisapersonofgreathonesty;ofgreatintegrityandgreatenergy.HewaslikeDonQuixotebecause,inasense,hedidnotunderstandthenatureofthisgovernmentcover-up.Heidealizedit.Heworkedwithpeoplethatwerewithinthegovernment.Heconsideredittheresponsibilityofthescientiststolookfortheanswers.Paola:Thankyou,Betsy.Youareverykindtotalktous!

InterviewwithColonelPhilipCorsoWe,hereinRome,knewColonelCorsoverywell.HespokeinPescara,ontheAdriaticCoast,in

1997andattheWorldSymposiuminSanMarinoin1998.Thosepresentwereimpressedwithhiscredentials,hishonestyandhistestimony.Heusedtoaskhisskeptics,“Wereyouthere?”

BeforeIbegintodefendColonelPhilipCorso,Iwanttoaskthefollowingquestions:Whyhasthismanbeentheobjectofsuchcontroversy?Whydebunkthedead,whocannotdefendthemselves?Whygoonwiththisdebate,unlessitisfueledbyeconomicreasons,sincethecommonalityseemstobethesellingofRoswellbooks?Whyputsomuchenergyintothis,unlessthereareulteriormotives?Itdoesnottakeageniustofigureoutthatthemotivesofthesedebunkersmaynotbethemost“noble.”Someoftheargumentsareridiculous.Weresearchersdonotbaseveracityonlyondocuments,especiallywhendealingwiththe“BlackOps”worldorwithpeoplewhohadhighintelligencepositions.Attimesthereisnopapertrail!Weallknowthis.SowhyallowpeoplewhoneverquestionedColonelCorsothemselvesnorknewhim,tohavethefinalwordonhischaracter?Ihavespokentothesemajorresearchers(alongwithBobandRyanWood,whohaverecentlycitedTheDawnofaNewAgeCorsomanuscript,publishedinItalian,asaviableresource.Note:AmericanscannowreadthisdocumentonOpenMindsTVwebsite,www.openminds.tv).TheyareallpuzzledastowhytheCorso“bashing.”Corsowasverycredible;heknewthesituationand,at83-yearsold,decidedtocomeforwardwithmajordisclosuretestimony.Corso’smotivationwashisthreegrandsonsaskingforthetruthandhisbeliefthatitwas“time”totellhisstory,butonlyafterthedeathofGeneralTrudeau,asagreed.ColonelCorsotoldme,aswellashisfamily,thathethoughtthathumanitycouldhandlethetruth.Weknowthatmanyinconsistenciesinthebookcouldalsobeattributedtohisco-writerbutthecorestoryistrue.

Pictured:PaolaHarris,ColonelPhilipCorsoandMaurizioBaiataatpressconference.WhydothesedebunkerscriticizeformerMinisterofDefense,PaulHellyer,forcitingthecredibilityof

theCorsobook?Weknowthat,besidescallingthat“four-starGeneral”toverifyCorso’sroleinArmyR&D,theHonorablePaulHellyermusthaveknown“something”ofthismatterintheNationalSecuritydiscussionswhichwereobviouslypartofhispositionintheCanadiangovernment.SowhyarethesefewpeoplestillfuelingthisCorsocontroversy?Whynotspeaktotheresearchersabove;mostveryexperiencedintheirfield,andinterviewthepeoplewhoknewhimwell?

Hisrealstory,Ifind,wastoldmostlyinItaly,wherehewasonPrimeTimetelevisiontalkshowsandanhonoredguestattwoconferences.IaccompaniedhimthereandspentaweekatEaster1998withtheColonelandhisdaughter-inlawLizandhisgrandsonsAndrewandPhilip.Wehadsomeveryrevealingconversations.HewouldtalkaboutconversationshehadwithCanadianscientistWilberSmith,andwhathecalledhis“GermanScientists.”ThesemencamefromOperationPaperclip,whichwaslaunchedbythe

U.S.GovernmenttobringGermanscientiststotheUSAintheinterestofNationalSecurity.Someofthem:WernhervonBraun,the“father”oftheU.S.spaceexplorationprogram;SiegfriedKnemeyer,theformerheadoftheRLM(MinistryofAeronautics);HansAmtmann;AlexanderLippisch;RobertSarbacher;andothers,seemtohavebeeninpossessionofcriticalknowledgeinthefieldofaeronautics,spaceflightandUFOtechnologies.TheycametoAmericain1946.SomeofthemworkedatAirMaterialCommand(AMC)atWrightField(laterWright-Patterson)inOhio.TheColonelhadbeentothebaseatWrightField.Atonepoint,inaninformalconversationwithusinItaly,hesaidhehadseencraftthere.

CorsohimselfsaysitallinthehandwrittennotesofhismanuscriptcalledTheDawnofaNewAge.ItisatragedythatithasnotbeenpublishedinEnglishaswehaveitforsaleinItalianinallthebookstores.Hesays,whynotinvestthetimeina“new”scientificapproachthattakesuspastthepaper-pushingandlaboratory-experimentationstagesandleadsus,instead,intoaseriousdiscipline,whichcouldincludeadaptationtointer-dimensionalphenomena.Hesaidtheanswerwasintimetravelandunderstandingthemysteryofspaceandtime.

Someback-engineeringprojects,accordingtoNSC’s(NationalSecurityCouncilandatonetimethespecialassistanttoGeneralTrudeau,headofthePentagon’sForeignTechnologyDesk)ColonelPhilipCorsoandothers,includesspecialmaterials(ceramics,alloys,bio-textiles),lasers,fiber-optics,solid-stateelectronics,compactdiscs,supercomputers,biotronicandbio-computerdevices,magneto-aeroandhydro-dynamics,magneto-gravitation,particlebeamweapons,electromagneticpulse(EMP)engines,stealthtechnology,night-visiontechnology,coldfusion,neutronicreactors,etc.ExclusiveInterviewwithColonelPhilipCorsoGiventoPaolaHarrisandMaurizioBaiataRome,Italy1998“Givethisinformationtotheyoungpeopleoftheworldandthiscountry.Theywanttohearit.”––ColonelPhillipCorso

Hereisanunedited,originalinterviewthatColonelCorsogavetoEditorMaurizioBaiataandme,in1998,inahotelinRome.Irememberitwell!Corso:I’vejustmentionedcropcircles,mutilationsofanimalsandabductionsofhumans.WhenIwasChiefoftheForeignTechnologyDivision,IwenttotheGeneralonedayanditwasagreedthatwewouldstartnoprojectsintheArmy,inourorganization,onthosethreeitems:cropcircles,mutilationsandabductions,butwewouldwatchthem.Wewouldkeepgettingthereportsandwewouldwatchthembecauseourmainobjectiveinthosedayswasweaponsofwar.WedidittoadvancethecompetitiveedgeoftheArmy.Evenwiththebeings,itdidnotmattertousiftheywererealornotanditdidn’tmatteriftheycamebyaccidentordesign.Ourmotivewas:iftheyarereal,wearegoingtobeready.Wearenotgoingtositherelikestupidhumansandsaytheyarenotaround.Wehavetoworkontheassumptionsthattheyarethereandtheymightbeenemies.SoItoldtheGeneral,ourmainthrustmustbethat,andIhardlyhadtimetodowhatI’mdoingbutIwouldreadthedocuments,becauseIcouldreaddocumentsinaminuteorso.Isaid:“I’llkeepgettingthesereportsandwatchthisbutwe’lldonothingaboutit,onlycollectinformation,”andforyearsIcollecteddocuments,attheWhiteHouse,whichtalkedaboutmutilations.Weknewaboutthem.Wemadethedecisionthatcropcircleswerenothingelsebutintegratedcircuits.Whenwe’dputinanintegratedcircuitthey’dgiveusamessage.Abductions,wecametotheconclusionthey’rehappeningbutthatwewerenotgoingtodoanythingaboutit.WewerereceivingmaterialssoIdidgettwooftheimplants.ThereareotherimplantsthatI’venevertalkedabout,whichweknewwerereal.Youcouldnottaketheminyourhandbecausetheyweremicroscopic,buttheywere

there.Sothefuturehastogoalongthoselines.WhenIwasworkinginthisfield,Iknowtheywerereal.They

happened.Idon’tthinkthatanyotherofthosepeoplecansaythis.Theyweren’tcleared.Theydidn’tgetthereports.Theydidnothaveaccesstothem.

Theytalktoanabducteeandwhathappens?Thecriticsays,‘hallucination,selfhypnotism’andyou’refinished.Howareyougoingtogetpastthat?Well,ifItellyouthattheabducteehadtwoimplants,itmakesitreal.Youcansay,“ColonelCorsotoldme.”Itwasanareathatweneverdidanythingabout.Weneverfoundoutthereasonforitbecausewehadourhandsfullwithwhatweweredoing.Thatwasn’tmyjobtodothat.Wespentmoneyonthenight-viewingdevice;millionsofdollars.Thatwasaproductofwar.ThesoldiersofVietnamcouldseetheenemyatnight.Lasers,FiberOpticswasthemainthrustofourorganization.Theextraterrestrialhimself;Iwouldalwayssay,wasthegreatestgifttheygaveusandwedidnothingwithit.Sowhowasincharge?Iwas,sothatmeantIdidnothingwithit.SoinmyoldagemaybeIfeelguiltyandIhavebeenwritingaboutitnow.Irealizedexpertshavetocomeintothisandlookatthisentity,thisBeing.Iknownothingaboutlungs,thelymphaticsystemandthebody.ThisBeingis,afterall,abiologicalentity.Allthesestoriesofclones;thatitisagainstreligion;thatmanwantstoliveforever,that’sallbaloney.Thatclonewasmadeforanotherpurpose:totravelinspace.Theywanttoseewhatspaceislike.Theycamehere.Withouttherelationshipoftheclonewiththeflyingsaucer,theyneverwouldhavemadeithere.

Pictured:ColonelPhilipCorso,Rome,Italy,1998.

Paola:Willtheyattackus?Corso:There’snowayintheworldthatIcantellyouthattheywon’tattackusbut,fromasoldier’spointofview,I’vegottobereadyforanyattackthatmightcome.IfI’mnot,I’mnegligentandIshouldn’tbedressedinamilitaryuniform.Youhavegottobereadyforanyeventualityoryou’llbedestroyedandyourcountrywillgowithit.Iftheyfightawarweneedtorealizethattheirsuper-intellectisonadifferentlevelandIdon’tthinktheywouldfightonourlevel,withbombsandcannons.Whyshouldthey?Theycouldnotcarryenoughbombsandcannonsontheirspaceshipstofightus.Theymightfightuswithourbodies,withsomethingthatusesnoweight,likeatypeofbiologicalweapon.Ithinkthatthesuper-

intellectwillfightusonthatlevel.Usingbombsandgunsislikefightingbarbarians.Theproblemis;thosepeoplethatthinkthatthescenarioislikethisarethinkinglikehumanbeingsandnotlikethealiens.OneexampleisamistakeImade:Ihadapen-likeartifactIreceivedfromtheRoswellCrashanditwouldnotgoonandIthoughtthebatterywasdeadsoIputitaway.Seehowstupidthatwas?Asifa“SuperRace”woulduseabatterythatwouldwearoutintwomonths!Thatisridiculousthinkingandyetithappenedtome.IamtellingyouwhattheBritishtaughtmeinIntelligence,yearsago.Yes,youlookfortargetsandthingslikethatbutthemainthingsyoulookforare“intentions.”Theywereright.Youdefeattheenemybyknowinghisintentions,notbyonebomb.IttookmeguessworktobuildupthemosaicbecauseIhavetothinkinmyownbrain,‘Whatishisintention?’NaturallyI’mgoingtomakemistakesbecauseIdon’tknowtoomuchabouthim,butatleastIcantry.WhereasthisnewsciencecouldfillinandcorrectthemistakesImadebecauseoflackofknowledge.AndthisiswhatIthinkithastocometo.I’vereallynevertalkedlikethistoanybody,well,maybewithacoupleofscientistfriends,butusuallyIdon’t.Myscientistfriendsarecallingmeandyouknowwhytheyarecallingme?BecauseinthebookIstatedthatthisextraterrestrialispartoftheflyingsaucer.Itisallone.Sotheseareanotherintelligence.Theyareaheadofus.Theyhaveprovenit.Onesimplereason:theycanflyinspaceandwecan’t.Intheend,thegreatestgiftwastheextraterrestrial,notthehardware.--ColonelPhilipCorso,onVideotape,1998,Rome,Italy

Pictured:PaolaHarrisandColonelCorso.

ThePerspectiveofMonsignorCorradoBalducci,VaticanRepresentativeMonsignorCorradoBalducciwasaclosefriend;hehassincepassedon.Wespentmanyhours

togetherdiscussingcurrentUFOresearch.Becauseofourcloseproximity(livingnearSt.Peter’s)inRomeandbecauseweadmiredeachother,weoftendinedtogether.PadreBalducciwasapurespirit,whoseeyeslitupwhendiscussingextraterrestrialvisitations.Hewascurious,educatedandopen-minded.Hewasoptimisticandhopefulthatwewouldhavesomekindofcelestial“intervention”andbesavedfromcataclysmicdestruction.Hesawthesevisitorsas“cosmiccultures”andhesawthemas“ChildrenofGod.”HewaspresentatStevenBassett’sX-Conference,forwhichIservedasinterpreter,inWashingtonDC,in2005,andwasawardedbyBassettforhiscourage.WebothwerefilmedforthedocumentaryFastwalkers,andthatlastappearanceofMonsignorBalducciishistoric.Althoughheisnolongerwithusincorporealform,hiswordswillliveonastheyrepresenttheunofficialpositionoftheCatholicChurch,whichhasamassiveobservatoryinArizonaandislookingtotheskies.

Picutred:Top(lefttoright):MonsignorBalducciandDr.StevenGreer;MonsignorBalducci,PaolaHarrisandStevenBassett;Center:MonsignorBalducciwithJaimeMaussan;Bottom(lefttoright):MonsignorBalducci,Dr.JohnMackandPaolaHarris;MonsignorBalducci,

Dr.JohnMack.“ThecityofMexicoisblessedwithUFOSightings.IwillcontinuetobespokesmanfortheopeningupofpublicopinionandChurchattentiontowardsthepeoplefromthestars.IwillasktheVaticantodedicatethereligiousfeastday‘Christ,theKingoftheUniverse’toincludeallitsinhabitants!”––CorradoBalducci,Rome,March2006

AtaconferenceinRomeinMarch2005,organizedbyStarworksItaliaandArea51Magazineandfeaturingspecialguest,MexicanjournalistJaimeMaussan,MonsignorCorradoBalduccitoldtheaudiencethatMexicowasblessedwithsomanysightingsbecauseofitsincredibleopennessandfaith.BothJaimeMaussanandMonsignorBalducciwereawardedtheInternationalGeorgeAdamskiAwardattheeventinRome.MexicanJournalistJaimeMaussanexplainedtotheaudiencethathebecameinterestedintheUFOphenomenonafterviewingthemwhentheyappearedduringthelastsolareclipseoverMexico.

AfterseeingallthisamazingMexicanfilmfootage,MonsignorBalduccisaidthattheVaticanisveryinterestedinthesephenomenaandthathewasdesignatedspokesman.HetoldtheaudiencethathehadwrittenanoteabouttheimportanceofhispresenceattheX-ConferenceinWashington,D.C.in2005toPopeBenedictXVI,andthathealsoknewthatthelatePopeJohnPaulfollowedhismanyTVappearancesspeakingaboutUFOs.HeaddedthatintheBible,Jesusiscalled“KingoftheUniverse”sixty-sixtimesandthat,inthisphrase,itisunderstoodasthe“universeanditsinhabitants.”

“Thereissuchavarietyofanimalandplantspeciesontheplanet,dowenotassumeGodwouldonlycreateonetypeoflife?”addedBalducci.“Ialwayswishtobethespokesmanforthesestarpeoples,whoalsoarepartofGod’sglory,andIwillcontinuetobringittotheattentionoftheHolyMotherChurch.”

“Ifaliensarevisitingus,”headded,“theymustbemuchmoreevolvedbecausethehumanspeciesisthelowestrungontheladderofspiritualdevelopment.Wehavebeengivendiscernmentandwestillfightandkillandareattractedtowrongdoing.IftheChurchisfoundedonwitnesstestimonythenwhycan’tthegovernmentsoftheplanetbelieveallthethousandsofwitnesseswhoaretestimoniestothisreality?Itistimetospeakupandtellthetruth!”

PlanetaryChallengesinaTimeofChangeItisanewyear,2012,onthisbeautifulplanet,whichisburdenedwithecologicalglobaldisaster(the

thirdhottestyearrecorded)andwiththethreatofpotentialdestructionbynuclearattacks.Thefightingneverstopsbutwearestillbeingwatchedandvisited.

IntheUFOfield,twoincredibledocumentarieshavesurfacedintheUnitedStates.Thefirst,Fastwalkers,hasaspiritualthemeandsomeprettyimportantresearchers,suchasStevenGreer,StantonFreedmanandSgt.MajorRobertDean.ButtheappearanceofMonsignorBalducciisafirst––ananteprima.Itispartoftheunconventionalwisdomfromextraordinarypeopleseentheworldover.Heisoneof“ours”inItaly.

ThesecondDVD,calledTheGreatestStoryEverDenied,isaneditingmasterpieceofJoseEscamilla.ItcontainsallthemilitarywitnessesinvolvedintheUFOcover-upfromthe2001DisclosureProject,insound-bytes.Thebackgroundmusicisincrediblybeautifulbuttwothingsimpressedme:theover2500hoursofuninterruptedlivebroadcastsandNASAfootagefromMartynStubbs.ItincludesthevoiceintheNASAcontrolroomactuallysayingtotheastronauts,“Wearetrackingthealienvehicle.”Yes.Thealienvehicle!

IntheDVD,ColonelPhilipCorsoisquotedassaying:“Givethisinformationtotheyoungpeopleoftheworldandthiscountry.Theywanttohearit!Theywantit.Giveittothem!Don’thideitandtellliesandmakestories.Theyarenotstupid!”

WecouldseefromhiswordsandcodeofethicsthatColonelCorsowasafinesoldierandpatrioticman.Hewasamanof“uncommonwisdomandcourage.”However,inthenextsectionwewillseehowbackengineeringcauseschallengesforExopolitics.ThebackengineeringoftechnologyconfusestheissueinthisExopoliticalstudyandcausesthesecret,alien-inspiredtechnologytobecomethemajorstumblingblockintheDisclosureprocess.Thenationpossessingthistechnologyrulestheworld.Thatiswhythesecretiskeptsecret!Alienvehiclesdonotusegasoline.

SectionThreeChallengesandProtocolsforFutureContactTheRoleofGalacticDiplomacy

ClipfromActor’sStudioInterviewQuestion:Mr.Spielberg.Yousaidyouhatemostwhenpeopledonotlisten.Wouldyougiveussomeadviceasyoungpeoplewhooftendonotwanttolisten.Whatistheimportanceoflisteningandlastly,doyoubelieveinAliens?Answer:Well,IwastaughtbymymomanddadthatinJudaismthemostimportantprayerisOHear,OIsrael,theLordthyGod,theLordisOneanditwastaughttomesincechildhoodthatthemostimportantthingIcoulddoasaJewisto“listen”andthatwasnotawayforaparenttosay“Iknowmorethanyou.I’mtheboss,youshutup.I’lldoallthetalking.”Thatwasnotthatwayatall.

Theymeantlistentoyourself.Listentothelittlewhispersthatwetendtonotwanttohearbecausetheyaretoosoft.Wetendtowanttolistentotheshout,notthewhisperandsolisteningcarefullyiswhatIwastaughtallthroughmylife.WhatI’mjustsayingisthat,whenpeopledon’tlisten,itisnotthattheydon’tlearn,itisjustthattheyjustdenythemselvestremendousopportunitiesandgloriouschoices.Theydenythemselvesthisanditistheirowndamnfault.

YesIdobelieveinAliens!“Exopoliticsisanon-academicdisciplinethatdealswiththeimplicationsofpossiblecontactbetweenhumansandextraterrestrialcivilizations.Inabroadercontext,Exopoliticsdealswiththepoliticalimplicationsofpurportedextraterrestrial-relatedphenomena.Criticalquestionsincludewhat,ifany,politicalframeworkmightbeestablishedbetweenhumanbeingsandextraterrestrials.”––Wikipedia:TheFreeEncyclopedia

Sincethissectionisdedicatedtoestablishingaframeworkforcontact,thenitmightbebeneficialto“frame”thefollowinginterviewsaroundseveralsuggestedprotocols.Thesearehypothetical.IsuggestwebeginsomewherewhenwesupportthedisciplineofExopolitics.

It’sbizarretothinkwecanresearchandinvestigateUFOs––movetowardsthebigUFOanswer––whileatthesametimeutterlyignoringtheideaofactuallymeetingwithextraterrestrials.TheNewPhysics:TimeTravel

IthasbeeninthelastfewyearsthatIhavemovedawayfrom“nutsandbolts”Ufologyandthearchivingofsightingstoamoreactivistpositionofgalacticdiplomacyandpreparingforinevitable“contact”onapoliticallevel.IamlookingatprotocolsliketheCSETIprotocolsandpoliticalcitizendiplomacyeffortslikethatofAmbassadorJohnMacDonaldwhospokeattheHawaiiconferenceinJuneof2006onhowtoinitiatedialoguethewayhedidfortheNorthernIrelandconflict.Hesaidthatworldgovernmentshavetheirprotocolsthatarenotalwaysassuccessfulascitizendiplomacyingettingbothsidestositatthetable.BothheandthehonorablePaulHellyeralsopresentedatthismeeting,stressingmutualrespectforbothsides.ThisprocessmustbeorganizedsomehowbutwearetalkingaboutanearimpossibilitybecausetheseareCosmicCulturesandwemayhavelittleincommon.

WearedealingwithCosmicCultureswhenwearedealingwithaliens.CliffordStoneandColonelPhilipCorsobothsaidthereweresomefiftydifferentculturesrecordedinPentagonfiles.TheyarenotonlyNordicblondes,orGreyExtraterrestrialBiologicalEntities(EBE)orReptilian.Thereareracesthatlooklikeus,aswewillseeintheCharlesHallcaseoftheTallWhitesontheNellisIndianSpringsbase;therearesmallcreatureswithreddishbrownskinasintheVarginhaBraziliancase;andtherearethe

ballsoflight,spheres,orbs,fastwalkersorintelligentdisembodiedentitiesforwhichInamethisbook.Therearebeingsofpurelightthatdonotneedbodies.

Whenwethrowtheseintothemix,itcausesusconfusionbecausewewesternersunderstandnothingthatisnotsolidorconcrete.Weliveinathree-dimensional,materialworld.Weareconditionednottotakethisviewseriously.Ourcultureprohibitsit.Butwhetheryouwishtogothereornot;thesephenomenaexistonaconcreteplane.

ThetwoexamplesIwishtousethathaveinfluencedmythinkingandthetitleofthisbookarethecaseofPierLuigiIghinaandthecaseoftheevacuationofthevillageofCaroniaonthesoutherncoastofSicily.Thesetwocasescausedmetothrowawayanypreconceivednotionsofconventionalalienvisitation.IhadnochoicebuttoaddnewinformationtomyintellectualdatabankandthoughIamdiscussingitinthisbook,IstillhavetroubledigestingitasIamnotacontacteenorhaveIhadanyofthisdirectcontact.ButIamseeingthatinmyreality,theimageofthesecyberneticdisembodiedracesareeverywhere.Theyappearasballsoflight.

ThefirstexamplecomesfromastoryIfirstsawonoureighto’clockItaliantelevisionnewsaboutavillageinSouthernSicilycalledCaroniathathadaself-combustinghouse.Thesephenomenawerestudiedbyourscientistsandbyourmilitary––especiallytheNavy––becauseitwascontinuousandaffectedsomanypeopleinthevillage.WewroteanarticleinourNo.9(June2006)issueofUFOmagazineArea51.Thearticlewastitled“TheVillageofFire”becausethesefireballscameoutofwhatseemedtobeabaseintheseaandenteredhomes,wentaroundthepeople,thedomesticpets,hurtnoonebuttheninteractedwiththeelectricalappliancesandthehousescaughtfire.Tousthisseemedtobe“intelligent”phenomena.

ThesephenomenafirstbeganinJanuary2004,intheprovinceofMessinainSicilyinthetowncalledMarittimadiCaronia.InFebruaryofthatyear,theItalianElectriccompany(ENEL)madeathoroughinvestigationofthevoltageboxesanddecidedtoshutdowntheelectricity.Theproblemwasthatthephenomenastillcontinuedwithnewfiresandburningwiresevenwithouttheelectricalfeed.Howcanthishappenwithoutelectricalenergytofuelthiscombustion?Eventhesofasandcoucheswerecatchingfireinthehomes.AllthiswashappeninginfrontoftheENELtechniciansandtownspeople,soonFebruary9th,theItalianCivilDefenceforceproclaimedthatzoneofflimitsandcordoneditoff.Surveillancecameraswereplacedthereand,forit’sownprotection,thewholetownwasevacuated.Allofthiscausedthefirestostop.Butthatzoneisstillundersurveillance.Someinterestingexplanationshavebeenthatitwasavolcanicorgeo-thermicphenomenabutmostscientistsdisagreebecauseitissuchanisolatedcase.Toaddtothismystery,somefishermanreporteda“boilingeffect”inthewaterastheysawballsofgreenlightexitingfromtheseaandsomereportedsightingsofunidentifiedflyingobjects.Severalcitizenssawthesespheresintheirhomebuttheydidnotexperienceanyburnsorillnessastheirelectricappliancescaughtfire.IfthisisamysteryconnectedtotheUFOphenomena,weknowtheremustbesomesecretinvestigationgoingonsomewhere.

TherearesomewhoareblamingtheinfamousprojectHAARPandconnectittoamicrowaveattack.Theyclaimthatthetownisanexperimentofthe“DarkForces”thatdirecttheseHAARPweatheralterationexperiments.

Allinalltherewereseveralthingsthatstuckmycuriosity.Onewasthattheseballsoflightavoidedhurtingtheinhabitantsastheyshotaroundthehousesandthatsecondly,theyseemedtoriseoutofthewater.Whatkindofcivilizationisthis?Howdoyouyoudealwiththis?Howdoyoucommunicatewithit?IdidaskamilitaryadvisoraboutCaroniaandhesimplysaid,“IfthisUFOhypothesisweretobetrue,weareterrifiedbecausewecandolittleexcepttoprotectthepeople.Furthermorewewouldtrulyfeelhelplessasifourhandsweretied.Whatwouldwedo?Attackthem?Withwhat?”

Pictured:NASA’sSTS-75Icouldseehisfrustrationbutitbroughthometomethefactthathumanityneedstodealwithitandnot

ignoreit.Weneedtohavesomeprotocolsinplace.Weneedtodiscussit.Mostofall,weneedtohaveclarityandopennessandthecountriesoftheworldneedtoshareresearchonaplanetarylevelbecauseitmaybehappeningsomewhereelse.Ballsoflight,whethertheybefilmedbyNASAaroundtheTetherthatbrokeinspace(STS-75)asseenintheEscamilladocumentary,orareOrbsaroundtheSTSmissions,orwhethertheyarelightballscomingoutoftheAdriaticSeainthe1970sasinthecaseofthePescaraphenomenaasreportedbyfishermeninItaly,orwhethertheyappearasorangeorbsoverPhoenixduringthePhoenixLightseventonMarch13,1997asdescribedandfilmedbyDr.LynneKitei.AllthisneedstobestudiedandaddedtocurrentUFOresearch.

SoIamsuggestingthoseorbsthatappearinthe“infra-redfilm”takeninMexicoandperhapsthosethatshowupwithparticularcharacteristicsondigitalphotosneedtobedealtwith.Spheresoflightofallkindsandorbsareanewrealityandmaybeunderintelligentcontroliftheythemselvesarenotintelligences.TheoneclearorbthathasadefinitesignaturepatternonmycoverwastakenbyBarbMcCombsinAvesbury,England;thatisconsidered“cropcircle”country,andtheonewiththechild’sfaceonmyphotosectionwastakenbyPinoMorelliinacropcircleinItalythisyear.Theappearanceinphotosofparticularorbsinmovementwithaparticularsignatureneedstobestudied.Particlesofdustandmoisturedoesnotintelligentlymoveupandaroundrooms,fieldsandoftenaroundcertainpeoplelike

theoneonStevenGreer’schest(picturedbelow).Thereissomemessagehere,someopening,somenewdiscoverythatisfutureyearswillbeseenascommonplacewhenhumanitytrainsitseyestotheinfraredspectrum.Itisjustthebeginning.

LiketheexpertMexicanresearcherjournalistJaimeMaussanwhoisstillreceivingastoundingfilm

footageofflotillasofhundredsoforbsflyingunderintelligentcontroloverMexicoCity,Ipredictthatwiththeproperawarenessandseriousstudy,theselightsphereswillbecomethefocusoffutureUFOresearch.TheymaynotbeconventionalcraftbuttheyarestilltobetakenseriouslyandIwishtoopenthedoortothatpossibilitywiththisbook.Ifyoudonotthinkitaffectsmankind,thenaskthoseonehundredandfortypeoplewhowereaskedtoleavetheirhomesinCaronia,Sicily.Whatislefttherearesurveillancecameras.Ironicallywearewatching“those”whoarewatchingus.

Thesecondincidentthatbroughtmyattentionto“lightbeings”happenedin2003.ItwasthenthatImadeatripuptoImola,ItalywithafriendIllarioPierpaoli.ImolaisfamousforitsFerraricarracing.ButImolaisalsowhereaninety-yearoldcollaboratorofGuglierlmoMarconinamedPierluigiIghinahadhislaboratory.InItalyheisknownasascientistwho“camefromthestars.”InItalianscientificresearch,hewasthegeniusthat,inonlysixteenyears,discoveredwhathecalled“themagneticatom.”ItissaidthathewasMarconi’scosmicandspiritualguidewhenheandMarconiworkedonsecretprojectstogetherthatwerehiddenfromconventionalscientificchannels.

HisinventionsthatinfluenceelectromagneticfieldaroundeverylivingthingarerenownedinItaly.Hehascreatedspecialantennasthatcancuredisease,dissipatecloudsandcausenaturalphenomenatohappen.HehadregisteredpatentsforallthesedevisesplushehaswrittenabookinItalianaboutthemagneticatomcalledL’atomomagnetico.

Pictured:PierLuigiIghinaIghinawasacharismaticoldman,alreadyinhisninetieswhenIinterviewedhimandperfectlylucid

withaheadofbeautifulwhitehair.IamgladthatImethimbeforehepassedawaytwoyearsagobecauseheshockedmeoutofmycomplacency.

WhenIarrivedinhisthreeroomrusticlaboratoryinthecountry,thefirstthingthatstruckmeasIwalkedinwerethecolorfulportraitsofbeautifulbeingsoflightthatwerehungveryhighonthewalls.TheyhadanIndianstyleastheirclothingresembledmandalasofcoloredlights.Insteadoflookingatthemanyinventionsonhiswoodenworkbench,IaskedIgina,“Whoarethosepeople?DidyouliveinIndia?”Heansweredthatthosewerethe“spacebrothers”thathad“downloaded”himandGuglielmoMarconi

withtheseinventionsandtheinformationabouttheworkingsoftheuniverse.AtthetimeIdidnotknowthatTeslaclaimedtohaveaverysimilarheritage,thathehadsimilarclaimsandwasconstantlypersecutedbyconventionalscienceandgovernmentintelligenceagencies.Thesegeniuseshadallbeencontemporaries.

DiagrambyPierLuigiIghina.Sospacebrothersaredownloadingscientistsandforwhatreason?AccordingtoIgina,itwasa

warningthattheEarthwasinitsfinaldeaththrowsduetoadyingecologyandalackofspiritualconcernfromitsinhabitants.“Weareinauto-destructionmodeandtheselightbeingswerewarningus,”hesaid.SowhatIsurmisedwasthattheinformationgiventoIghinawasthatelectromagnetismandsolarenergy(sincemanyofhisinventionshadsolarcollectorsattachedtoageneratorwhichIimaginedwasformagnification)wasthesalvationofmankind.Thesedevicescuredalltypesofdiseasesandprovidednewsourcesofenergyfromnatureitself.Well,IthoughtofthefactthatthisplanetisruneconomicallybytheTrans-nationalcompanies,andoil,bankingandpharmaceuticalconglomerates.Theyaretheveryfoundationofoursocietyandironicallytheverycauseofourruin.Themassesarekeptundercontrol,livinginconsumermodeandtothinkthatPierLuigiIghinabelievedthekeytooursalvationwasnature,thesun,anditssolarenergy.

ThereweremanytestimonialsofIghina’sgeniusandIghina’ssuccessinItaly.Heiscalled“thecosmicscientist”andhetoldmepersonallythatsometimesonahillsidehespoketothesepeople,theselightbeingswhoweremoreinter-dimensionalthaninterplanetary.Thereisathought.Notallalienscomefromourgalaxyorfromotherplanetsbutexistondifferentplanesofreality.Aretherenotelevendimensionsnowacceptedbymoderntheoreticalphysicists?Ihadtofacethatnotonlyweretherealienswithoutbodiesbutthosewhoaredownloadingscientistswithearth-shatteringinformation.IlaterlearnedthatthereisaMarconitowerinEnglandclosetowheretheAreciboReplycropcircleappearedandthattheVaticanfinancedsomeofMarconi’swork.Thereismuchinvestigationstilltodothatcouldgiveussomeanswers.ThatyearIspokeinNaplesinabookstoreandwastoldthatMarconi’sdaughterwasintheaudience.Amiddle-agedwomanapproachedmeandwhisperedinmyearthatsheneededtospeaktome.ShesimplytoldmeIwasontherighttrackandaliensexist,butIhavebeentryingtocontactherever

since.Shehasyettorespond.Icanunderstandbecausethetheorythatmanyofourscientificdiscoveriescamefromthestarswouldberevolutionaryandverycontroversialinourclosedmindedsociety.Ontheotherhand,IamconvincedthisisafactbasedonthetestimonyofPierLuigiIghinaandthebooksaboutNikolaTeslaandsomeconfidentialconversationsIhavehadwithseveralscientistswhoaremyfriends.

IntheUnitedStates,controversialtheoreticalphysicistJackSarfatti,wholivesinSanFrancisco,maintainsthatasateenagerhereceivedseveralcryptic-phonecallsfromaroboticcomputerizedvoiceaboardaspaceshipsayinghewouldmeetotherscientistslikehimintwentyyears,andironicallyhewaspartofagiftedprogramcreatedbyWalterBreencalledStarfleetAcademy.ButthenBreenissupposedlythecreatorofMENSAtheassociationusedtoidentifygeniuslevelhumanbeings.Sarfattiaddsthatin1953inBrooklynNewYork,therewasaJr.AmericanRocketSocietyBasementLaboratorynearBrooklynCollege,Flatbus;thatWalterBreen’sSuperKidswerefinancedbyDr.WilliamSheldon,EugeneMcDermott,ArthurYoung,AndrijaPuharich,LRonHubbard“RoundTable”withlinkstoSandiainNewMexico.SeeSarfatti’sbookDestinyMatrixforthewholestoryandbegintoconnectafewdots!Thesenamesareimpressivemoversandshapersofourcurrentmodernsometimes“NewAge”discoveriesandcosmicthinkingbuttheyarealsolinkedtotheesotericphilosophieslikeScientology.AllthissoundslikeaRoddenberrysciencefictionscriptfromStarTrek.

FromthePhyllisSchlemmer’sbookTheOnlyPlanetOfChoice,weknowthatonatleastoneoccasionGeneRoddenberryaskedquestionsofTom,spokesmanfortheCyberneticcouncilofninedisembodiedentitieswhomSchlemmerchanneled.AccordingtothebookTheStargateConspiracy,thisgroupofalienentitiesbecametheinspirationfortheNewAgepracticesincludingsomeoftheSRIPSIscientificresearchwithIsraelipsychicUriGeller.Wecanseeaballoflightconnectionwithhisstory.WhenUriwasayoungchildoffive,hewassupposedlybeamedintheforeheadbyalightbeingwhoactivatedhismetalbendingpowers.InIsrael,recentlythereseemstobeawitnesstothateventwhosayshefollowedthisballoflighttoUri’sapartmentanditwentrightthroughthedoor.Afteralltheseyears,weseemtobepeelingoffthelayersoftheonionandwemaybegettingtosometruth.UriisveryconnectedtoRemoteViewingandpsychicexperimentsofthe’70satSRI,andalso,theUFOphenomenaashephotographedseveralUFOswhenhewasyoung.He,likeSpielbergintheActor’sStudiointerview,haspubliclystatedthathefirmlybelievesinaliens.WhenhypnotizedbyAndrjaPulharich,itseemsUrihasarelationshiptoasupercomputercalledSpectraaboardaspaceship.UriGellerhasnotonlybecomeaplanetaryphenomenonbutasafriend,Iknowhimasaregularguywhohasaregularfamily.

ItisinterestingthatonhiswebsiteUriGellerispicturedwithAmericanSenators:SenatorPeteDomenici,FormerSenatorAlanCranston,(deceased),SenatorFritzHollings(South.Carolina),andonanotheroccasionUriispicturedwithVicePresidentAlGore,YuliM.Vorontsov,FirstDeputyForeignMinisteroftheSovietUnionandAnthonyLake(thenNationalSecurityadvisor,laterheadoftheCIA),andSenatorClaibornePell,ChairmanoftheUSSenateForeignRelationsCommittee.Uri’staskwastomentallybombardYuliVorontsovandthegroupattheNuclearArmsReductionTreatynegotiationsinGeneva,Switzerlandtosignthenucleartreaty,whichtheydid.Sowecansurmisethattheoncelight-beamedUriGellerisinvolvedinthesepoliticalpeace-makingeffortsusingtheonlycommunicationmethodwehavetotalktoaliencultures,ballsoflight,ordisembodiedentitiesandsoonandsoforthandthatisbymentaltelepathy.

AnotherinterestingfactisthatJackSarfattistatesthatitwashewhointroducedUriGellertoStevenSpielbergandbyconnectingthesedots;Icanseewherethe’70sparanormalresearchandrevolutionarydiscoveriesisthekeytothispuzzleof“alienintervention!”ThereweresomeinterestingconversationsgoingonwithsomemajortopplayersinHollywoodandsomeinterestingfilmsemergedfromthis.ScienceFiction,servedbytheHollywoodfilmindustry,hasprovidedabridgetothegeneralpublictospreadawareness,testreactionsandmanipulateinformationbypassingsomefactualdataasfantasytoentertainthemasses.SpeakingaboutCloseEncountersoftheThirdKind,StevenSpielbergisquotedas

saying“IreallyfoundmyfaithwhenIlearnedthatthegovernmentwasopposedtothefilm.IfNASAtookthetimetowritemeatwenty-pageletter,thenIknewtheremustbesomethinghappening.”

ThefirstmovietoreceivegovernmentapprovalwasTheDaytheEarthStoodStill.Itwarnedthatearthlingsmustbecomepeacefulorelsebequarantined.ThencameCloseEncountersoftheThirdKind(atermcoinedbyDr.Hynekhimself)thatcameoutin1978andittestedthepublicreactiontothehundredsofsightingsworldwide.ThelateDr.JohnMack,aHarvardUniversityprofessorwhowrotethebookAbduction,thenstudiedthecontactscenariooralienabductionscenario.Hefoundthatthesepeoplebelievedtheyweretellingthetruthabouttheircontactexperience.Onasubconsciouslevel,planetarydisclosureonthe1970swascreepingintoourrealityandeitherthegovernmentswereguidingitortheywerethreatenedbyit.Iamguessingitwasalittlebitofboth.

Butwereturntotwoelementsthatarethethemeofthisbook:cyberneticbeings,sometimescalledartificialintelligence,andballsoflight,notyourconventional“alien”profiles.Bothhavetodowiththestoriesabove.IfyouwishtocomplicatelifeandthrowtheworkofPhilipK.Dickintothemix,thenitgetsverycomplexbecausewearequestioningourrealityasregardtotheexistenceoftimetravel.IcannotexcludethisasSarfattimentionsitinthecaseofhisformulasintheoreticalphysicswiththecomponentofconsciousness.He,aswellasI,believesthesephenomenaareconnectedwithtimetravelandtheawarenessofsynchronicitiesalldescribedinconceptofValiscreatedbySci-FiwriterPhilipK.Dickwhotalksofcyberneticsupercomputers.Asweknow,PhilipDickwrotethestorylineforthepopularfilmsBladerunner,MinorityReportandPaycheck.Itissaidthathe,likeAndrijaPuharich,wassomewhatinvolvedwiththeIntelligenceCommunity,andwasoneofthose1970splayers.JackSarfattireallyidentifieswithhiswork.

IsthissynchronisticprincipleevidenceofPhilipK.Dick’sValisand/orJackSarfatti’ssuper-cosmosprincipleatwork?DicksaysinValisthat,“Wearenotindividuals.Wearestationsinthesinglemind.”Alsothat,“SpaceandTimewererevealedasmeremechanismsofseparation.”PhilipK.DickhaswrittenthatValisshowedhimthe“GoldenSection,”theFibonacciseriesofnumbers(thelaw-of-similarities).RecallingthatI’dreadonSarfattiScienceSeminarthatPhilipK.DickwasonrecordhavingsaidValiswasatworkinthe(non-local)causeandeffectingofeventstakingplaceduringWWII,andalsoPhilipDicksaidthatValisshowedhimtheGoldenSectionandFibonacciseries.“Non-locality”isthecurrentscientificexplanationforallmatterbeingconnectedandconsciousnessbeingpartofthatmatterwhetheritisaneutronthatisbeingstimulatedandreactsinalaboratorysomewhereelseorhumanmindsbeingaffectedbyfarawayevents.FormerSRIphysicistRussellTargsays,“Thisisresponsibleforourhonedtelepathicabilityandourabilitytoseeintoa‘possiblefuture’andthesynchronicitiesthatmayresult.”Einsteinoncetermedthedistinctionbetweenpast,presentandfuture“astubbornillusion.”So,wheredoesitleaveuspoorhumansinourunderstandingofourtruerealityandinparticulartheUFOPhenomena?

Onapersonallevel,synchronisticironyiswhatleadsmeintothisresearchafterIsawthefilmCloseEncountersoftheThirdKindandwithmyHynekconnection.ItleadmeonthepathtowhereIamtoday,althoughIwouldhavepreferredaphonecallfroma“supercomputer”aboardaspaceshipalaJackSarfatti.

Fromthefollowingpaperontimetravel,IthinkIneedtopresentthefollowingconceptsthatarebuttheories.IneedtopresentthisbeforeIgointotheinterviewIdidwithAlBielekwhosayshetookpartinthefamousPhiladelphiaExperiment,whichopenedadimensionalportholethatletindiversealienraces.TheTimeTravelideacannotbeexcludedfromourresearchnorfromthisbook.InabrilliantarticlebyDennisOverbye,(NYTimesstaffwriter,Tuesday,June28,2005)titled“TimeTravel:RemembranceofThingsFuture:TheMysteryofTimeTravel,”hesaysthatfamedgravitationalphysicistDr.KipThorneofCalTechpostulatesthatwormholes[Einstein-Rosenbridge]canbeusedasasortof“Galacticsubway”fortimetravelbythreadingtogetherwormholeswiththeCasimirenergy,therebykeepingthemapartand

fromcollapsing.Thorne’stheorywasusedintheCarlSaganinspiredmovieContactforJodieFoster’sfaster-than-lighttravelacrossthegalaxyusingthesewormholes.Dr.JRichardGott,authorofthe2001bookTimeTravelinEinstein’sUniverse:ThePhysicalPossibilitiesofTravelThroughTime,isoneofasmallbreedofphysicistswhospendpartoftheirtime(andtheirresearchgrants)thinkingaboutwormholesinspace,warpdrivesandothercosmicconstructionsthatabsurdlyadvancedcivilizationsmightusetotravelthroughtime.IfEinstein’stheoryofgravityandspace-timeistrue,thenitallowsfortheabilitytogobackintimeand,forexample,killyourgrandfather.“Whenitcomestothenatureoftime,physicistsareprettymuchatasmuchofalossastherestof

uswhoseemhopelesslysweptalonginitscurrent.Themysteryoftimeisconnectedwithsomeofthethorniestquestionsinphysics,aswellasinphilosophy,likewhywerememberthepastbutnotthefuture.”

TheissuesraisedbytimetravelsaysthisNewYorkTimesarticle“areconnectedtothesequestions.”Dr.LawrenceKrauss,aphysicistatCaseWesternReserveUniversityinClevelandandauthorofthebookThePhysicsofStarTreksaid,“Theminuteyouhavetimetravelyouhaveparadoxes,”explainingthatifyoucangobackwardintime,youconfrontfundamentalissueslikecause-and-effector,iftherecanbetwoofyouatonce,themeaningofyourownidentity.Arefinedtheoryoftimewouldhavetoexplain,“howasensibleworldcouldresultfromsomethingsononsensical?”“That’swhytimetravelisphilosophicallyimportantandhascaptivatedthepublic,whocareabouttheseparadoxes,”heexplained.Atstake,saidDr.DavidZ.Albert,thephilosopherandauthorofhisowntimebook,TimeandChance,is“whatkindofviewsciencepresentsusoftheworld.”

JackSarfatti,inoneofhismanyemailstohisSarfattiPhysicsSeminargroupsaddedthisresearchdata:“Itwasnearlytwodecadesagowhensciencefictionmedia(TV,filmandnovels)begantoadopttraversablewormholes,and,morerecently,‘stargates’forinterstellartravelschemesthatallowedtheirheroesandheroinestotravelthroughoutourgalaxy.Littledidanyoneoutsideofthestudyofrelativityphysicsknow,but,in1985,physicistsM.MorrisandK.ThorneatCalTechhadinfactdiscoveredtheprincipleoftraversablewormholesrightoutofEinstein’sGeneralTheoryofRelativity(GTR,publishedin1915).MorrisandThorne(1988).

“Interestingenough,in1988,Morris,ThorneandYurtseverdidthisasanacademicexercise,andintheformofproblemsforaphysicsfinalexam,attherequestofCarlSaganwhohadthencompletedthedraftofhisnovelContact.Saganwantedtofollowthegenreofwhatwecallsciencefiction,wherebythestory’splotwouldrelyoncutting-edgephysicsconceptstomakeitmorerealisticandtechnicallyplausible.Thislittleexerciseendedupbecomingoneofthegreatestcottageindustriesingeneralrelativityresearch––thestudyoftraversablewormholesandtimemachines.Wormholesarehyperspacetunnelsthroughspace-timeconnectingtogethereitherremoteregionswithinouruniverseortwodifferentuniverses;theyevenconnecttogetherdifferentdimensionsanddifferenttimes.Spacetravelerswouldenteronesideofthetunnelandexitouttheother,passingthroughthetunnelalongtheway.”

Thisconceptoftime-travelandthediscussionofthePhiladelphiaexperimentalwayscameupinconversationswithColonelCorso,authorofTheDayAfterRoswell.IwasalwayscuriousaboutthissowhenIhappenedtorunintoAlBielekattheLaughlinUFOCongress,Ihadmyownquestionstoask.Thisisthetextofwhathesaid.ItconnectstothediscussionofdimensionalportalsandopeningupofadimensiontocausethevisitsofseveralETcraftandmaybeballsoflightcraft.TheideaoftransportingconsciousnessfromonephysicalbodytoanotherasAlBielekclaimshappentohim,isverycontroversialbutworththestudy.ItisalsointerestingthathesaysTeslacoilswereinvolvedandthatEinsteinwasawareofthis.ThisbecomesoneofourfuturechallengesinUfology:tounderstandTime,TimeTravel,“fastmaneuvering”craftorFastwalkersandmaybetodesigna“newphysics!”

ThePhildelphiaExperimentandTimeTravel:InterviewwithAlBielekInterviewwithAlBielekLaughlin,NevadaMarch,2005Paola:WhatwastheMontaukProject?Bielek:Thatwasaprojectthatappearedbetween1975and1983.Itcollapsedandwasresurrectedin1987.TheGermanscientists,whocameover,underOperationPaperclip,ranit.TheyworkedfortwentyyearsatBrookhavenNationalLaboratoriesandtheywerekickedoutofthereabout1967.Whilelookingforanewhome,theyheardaboutMontaukandtheprojectsoutthereandtheywentoutthere.AtthattimeitwasstilloperatedbytheU.S.MilitaryAirForce.Theyweredoingtheresearchfor[the]SAGEradarproject:Over-the-Horizonradar(OTH).Whentheygotthroughwiththetestingandtheywereintheprocessofshuttingthemdown,theGermanscientistsheardaboutit.TheGermanscientistssaid,“Wewouldliketodosomefurtherresearch.We’dliketoshowyouhowtodothings,likewinthenextwarbypushingabutton.”Themilitarywereveryinterested.SothescientistscameinandtheMilitarypackedupandleftandtheyweretherefrom1968until1983,whenitcollapsedandwasresurrectedforafewyearsin1987bythesameGermanscientists,untiltheAirForcetookitoverin1991.Intakingit,theAirForcewasconcernedwiththeHale-BopCometproblem.TheyknewaboutitbeforeDr.HaleandDr.Bopeverknewaboutitandtheyweredoingtheworktodefectit,whichtheydiddo,successfully.TheAirForceproject––“ProjectSkyPebbles”wastheofficialname––closeddownin1998andtheNavycameinandtookoveraboutthesummerof1998andtheyaretherestill,intheunderground.Theycleanedoffalmostalloftheoldbuildings,withtheexceptionoftheradartower,andcleaneditupanditisaparknow.SoMontaukPoint,onthesurface,isapark.Underground,itisstillamilitarybase,beingusedfortheNavy,andnobodyknowsforwhatandnobodythatIknowof,atthispoint,hasanyknowledgeofwhattheyweredoingandwhytheyarethereatthepresenttime.Agroupofciviliansareworkingforthemandhavetheirownseparatehousingvillage.Paola:TheMontaukProjecthastodowithtimetravel,right?Bielek:Ithadtodowithtimetravelandmindcontrol.TheMontaukboyscameoutofthereoriginallyandtheyweremovedoffthatbasetoanotherareadownunder,allconnectedwitheverymajorcityintheUSandmajorcitiesinEurope.Paola:YouknowIneedtoaskyouthisbecauseIhaveto.Howareyouprivytothisinformation?Howdoyouknow?Bielek:BecauseIwaspartofit.IwaspartoftheMontaukProjectandIwasamajorpartofthePhiladelphiaExperiment.IworkedfortheMontaukProjectforanumberofyears.Iwasacivilian.Originally,theyputintheSAGEsystem:28radartowersaroundtheperipheryoftheUSand,astheywenttothenextphase,whichwasahigher-poweredsystem(BemusProject),theycouldpickupamissilelaunchedinRussiaasitlefttheground.

ThetoweronLongIslandremainedcompletelyoperativeaftertheMilitarypulledoutandtheGermanstookitovertobuildtheirownsystems.ItwasalsodoneinconjunctionwithagroupofaliensthattheUSgovernmentsaidwouldbepartoftheprojecttodevelopthetimetunnel.Weknewhowtodotimetravelatthatpointbutwedidnotknowhowtomakeawormhole.

Pictured:AlBielekandPaolaHarris,2005.

Paola:Whatyearwasthis?Bielek:MontaukbecameoperationalundertheGermancontrolapproximatelyin1970andbecameeffectiveabout1976until1983.Paola:Ihavetoaskaboutthealieninvolvement.Doyouknowaboutthealieninvolvementorwereyouinvolvedwiththealiens?Bielek:MontaukPointwascalledthatbecauseoriginallytheMontaukIndianswerethere.TheywerekickedoutbytheU.S.Governmentabout1900.ThePyramidsweretorndown.Iunderstandtherewerepyramidsthere.Iunderstandthattherearesomepeopleontheislandwhohavepicturesofit,butIhavenotseenitmyself.Paola:Haveyouseenthealiens?Bielek:Yes,atMontauk.Paola:Whatwerethey?Thehuman-typealiens?Bielek:No.Theywereamixtureofthehuman-typeaswellassomeothersfromallover,includingaDraco,whowasinchargeofsomeothers.Paola:ADraco.IsthataReptiliantype?Bielek:Aparticularspeciesofalienwhostands7-feettall.Somearewinged;somearenot.Theyareveryheavy,about450pounds.Theyareveryintelligentandtheonewhowastherewasinchargeofotheraliens.TheyhadappearedontheEldridgedeckin1943,whenwerippedaholethroughthefabricofspace-timeandbecamepartofthecollaborationontimetraveltechnology.Theysaid,“Wecanshowyouhowtocreatethiswormhole.”Paola:Areyousayingalienswereinvolvedwithbuildingtimetraveltechnology?Inwhatway?Bielek:Youcandothatsimultaneously.Youcanbuildtheequipment;youcandothat.“Wewillshowyouwhattobuildandhowtobuildit.”Paola:Whatwouldbethebenefitoftheirteachingushowtobuildtime-travelequipment?Whatwouldbethebenefitforthem?Whatwouldtheygetoutofit?Bielek:Whattheygotoutofitwasthattheytoldthegovernmentthat:“Wehaveouragenda.Wewishtousethestationwhenitisworkingproperly.Wewishtouseitforourownagenda.”Thegovernment

agreedwiththat.What“ourownagenda”washappenedonAugust12,1983,whentheylockedupwiththeEldridge,ortheshiptheycalledtheEldridgeand,onAugust12,1943,theythrewaholeinspace-time,forty-yearswide,inwhichtolettheirownlargeshipsthrough,becausetheirshipswereinawarwithsomebodyelseandtheywantedtogetthroughtothisuniverse.Paola:Sowasitliketearingaholeinadimensiontoletthemthrough.IsthatpartofthePhiladelphiaExperimentorisitaspinoff?Didtheyknowtheyweregoingtodothat?Bielek:TheyknewtheyweregoingtodothatandtheydiditdeliberatelybecausetheydelayedthesecondtestforthePhiladelphiaExperimentuntilAugust12,1943.IthadtobeonAugust12thbecausetheEarthhasitsownbiorhythms––likethehumanbiorhythms.Theyallpeakout,liketheEarthbiorhythmspeakout,allfourofthem.TheEarth’speakoutonAugust12theverytwentyyears;plusorminushalfaday.Thatis,[theyears]1943,1963,1983,2003,2023haveasynchronizingeffectoncertainaffairsandcertainmatters.InthecaseofAugust12,1983,wewereconductingexperiments;theywereconductingtheMontaukExperiment.Thetwoexperimentssynchronizedandlockedin.Thatwasdoneverydeliberately,notonlytopulltheEldridgeintoHyperspace,butinordertoproduceasortofwormholeeffect––toactuallycauseabreachinspace-timelargeenoughforthealiens’shipstogetthrough.Paola:OK.Yousaid“alienships”plural,sotherearedifferentalienshipsandbrandsofalienswhowanttogetthroughthathole?Bielek:Theycould.Paola:Youdon’tknowwhichonescamethrough?Youdon’tknowwhowasatwar?Bielek:Idonotknow.Possiblythegovernmentknew.Paola:Andthisinformationcamethroughtoyouasyousupposedlywerepartofthatproject?Bielek:Yes.Wefoundoutsomeofthemissinglinksafterwards.Wejumpedofftheship;wewoundupin1983,ontheterritoryofMontauk,andweweretakenintomeetJohnVonNeumannandsomeoftheotherpeopleandtheytoldusquiteabitofwhatwasgoingon.They,themselves,didnotknowaboutthealienconnectioncausingthebreechinspace-timebuttheyknewthetwoexperimentshadlockedup.VonNeumanntoldusthatsowehadtogobacktotheshipanddestroytheequipmentsotheshipwouldreturntoitsoriginalstartingpoint.Wesaid;“Wedon’tknowhowwegothere;howcanyousendustothedecksoftheEldridge?”Theysaid,“Noproblem!Wecantakecontroloverspace-time.Wecansendyouanyplacewewant.”Paola:Thegovernmentsaidthis?Bielek:No.JohnvonNeumannsaidthat.Theydid.TheysentusthroughthewormholetothedecksoftheEldridge.Paola:Theysentyouthroughthewormhole?Bielek:Duncanandmyself.Paola:Howdoesthatfeel?Isthatjustbeinghereoneminuteandgonethenext?Bielek:Well,weknewwewerebeingpropelledthroughsomething.Thereisaslightfeelingwhenyouaregoingthroughspace-time.Thefirsttripyoumakecanbequitenauseatingandafterthatyousortofgetusedtoit.Paola:Yougotdizzyandnauseatedandthatkindofthing?Itisliketraveling?Bielek:Well,weknewwewerebeingpropelledthroughsomething.Thereisaslightfeelingwhenyougothroughawormhole.Wewerealittlenauseated,notlikethefirsttime,but,inanycase,wewentbackand

wedestroyedtheequipmentasdirectedandtheshipreturnedto1943andwethensawtheproblemofthesailorsburiedinthesteeldeckandthebulkhead.Duncantookonelookatthisandheheadedfortherailing,jumpedoveranddisappeared––andwentbacktoMontaukinthe1980sandworkedthereandhadsomeproblemshimself.Butthatwasintherecordswereadlater.AfterpassageofnormaltimeandDuncannolongerthere,IbecamepartoftheMontaukProjectatalaterdate.Muchlater,aftertheychangedmyidentityfromEdCamerontoAlBielek,becauseIwasthereonMontaukasAlBielek.Paola:InotherwordsAlBielekwasEdCameron.Wouldnotitbetheotherwayaround?Bielek:Theyareboththesameperson.Except,in1953,theNavygottiredofmeandwantedtofindsomewayofgettingridofmewithoutkillingme,becausetheyknewitwouldcauseenormousreactionsandproblemsintermsofspace-time;becausetheywereafraidIhadtraveledsomuchintimethattherewouldbeacollapseinthespace-timecontinuumintheperiodwhereIhadbeenandIhadgonethrough,sotheydecidedtheycouldn’tdothat.Sotheycookedupaplottoage-regressme;whitewashallmymemories.Theyregressedmetoanine-montholdkidandsentmebacktoanotherfamilyinthepast,to1927,whichweretheBieleksandthoseweretheonlyparentsIknewformanyotheryears.Paola:Thatisamazing!Withthistimetravelthing,whatwouldyousaywasthetime,thedatesthatthegovernmentwasworkingwithtimetravel?Bielek:1938.Paola:WiththeNazis,right?Bielek:TheNaziswereworkingonitalsobuttheynevercompletelysolvedtheproblems.TheysolvedtherestofthemaftertheyhadbeenextractedfromGermany,attheendofWorldWarII,andbroughttotheUnitedStatesunderOperationPaperclip.Paola:ThosePaperclipguysdidalotofthings,butColonelPhilipCorsohadthefeelingthatthealiensatRoswellwerefromthefuture,comingbacktowarnusaboutnuclearpower,andhebelievedthattheyweretimetravelers.Hetoldme,“Paola,wehavediscoveredaTimeMachine!”ButIneverknewwhathewastalkingabout.ButhedidbringusmaterialonthePhildelphiaExperiment.Isthereanoccasionwhensomebodyhaschangedthetime-spacecontinuumthatyouknowofandhistoryhaschanged?Bielek:Yes.Paola:Wherewouldthatbe?Bielek:Icanthinkoftwospecificitems.Numberone:HistorysaysthattheSouthlosttheCivilWarandtheydidn’t;theywonit!Itwaschangedlater,bytheuseoftheMontaukProject,oradifferentone,Iamnotsure.ButtheywentbackandchangedhistorydeliberatelybecauseIrunintopeoplewhorememberthefactthattheSouthwontheCivilWarandsomeoftheearliertextbookssaidthat;theSouthernersbelievedthat,evenwhenIwasinhighschool.Thesecondthingthatturnedupis––howwelldoyouremembertheeraoftheGermanNazis,theSwastika?Whichwaydiditpointatthetop?Whichwaydiditappeartoberotatinginyourmemory?Paola:Theright?Bielek:Italwaysusedtopointtotheleft.ThatwastheNazisymbolforyears.ItwasasacredsymbolofcertainIndiansthattheytookand,ofcourse,thosetribesdonotlikethathappening.Theyobjectedviolently.ItwasadoptedbytheNazihierarchyandpointedtoleft.NowitpointstotherightandIsawithappenonTVandIcouldnotbelievewhatIwasseeing,becauseitalwayspointedtoleftandsuddenlyitwaspointingtotheright.Thetextbookshavechanged,andthemonuments,oranythingthatshowedtheNaziswastika,suddenlyitisallpointingtotheright.Itchangeseverything,evensymbolically.

Paola:ColonelCorsosaidthatcertaineventsintimehavebeenchangedandweareinanalteredtimeline.Bielek:Weoperateandliveon,whatyoumightcall,atimeline.Thetimefieldisactuallyaclosedloop;itisagiganticloop.Ifyougofarenoughforwardintime,youwillwindupcrossingoverandgoingintothepastbecauseitisaconnectinglink,sotospeak,anditisahugeloop.Icannotdescribeitassomethingphysicallyinspace,butintermsoftime,itisahugeloop.Idonotknowhowmanyyearsareinvolvedinit,buteventuallyyouwillcometothecross-over,plusorminustheinfinitypoint,asitiscalled,andyouareinthepast,theveryancientpastinthegalactichistoryand,ifyoukeepgoingforward,youwilleventuallycomeuptoourpresenttime.Itcanbenavigatedwiththepropertime-travelequipment.Youcangoforwardorbackwards.Somescientiststodaysaymaybetimetravelforwardispossiblebutitisnotpossibleinreverse.Thatisabsolutenonsense!Ifyoulookattheequationscorrectly,youwillseethatyoucangoeitherway.Paola:Youcangoeitherway.WhatIaskedyouspecificallythoughinsteadofjusttheswastika;isthereanoccasionlikethedeathofKennedywherehewasaliveanddidn’tgetkilledorofsomepersonbeingherethatshouldnotbehere?Bielek:Specifically,no.Ithinkithappened.Paola:WhatColonelCorsosaidis:“Theycameonce,intheRoswellincident.”Bielek:Thereweretwoshipsinvolvedandtheotherdisappeared,duetotheradarsystemwehaddevelopedthatwasinterferingwiththeirnavigationsystem.Paola:ButCorsosaidthathesawtheshiptenyearslater,in1957,in“RedCanyon,”inanencounter.Whatbenefitisitforustohavetimetraveltechnology?Bielek:Thatisaverygoodquestion.Idon’tknowasithasanyrealbenefit.Paola:Itmust,ortheywouldnotdoit!Bielek:Itisatoytocertaingovernmentgroupsbecausetheycanuseittotravelthroughtimeandchangehistory.Thatistheprincipalreasonithasbeenused.Ofcourse,othertravelersfromthefuturehavecomeintoourtimeandinparticular,TheWingmakers,outofthetwenty-eighthcentury,andtheyhavecontributedsometechnology.

Thepremiseisthataraceofrobotswillcometotheearthtotakeitover(theM51group).Basically,ifthey,thescientistscantakethatpointintimeinwhichtheytheroboticraceareabouttodiscovertheEarthandcloaktheearth,assuch,thentheshipgoesonbyanddoesn’tseeit.

Theyalsoareexperimentingwithsound,asinthemovieStargate.Allofthatmusicwassynthesizedinacomputer.Nohumanvoice,norealinstruments;theyevenreplicateda36-foot-diameter,vastbasedrum,whichdoesnotexistnow.Idonotknowiftheyhaveoneinthefuture.Allthiswassentbackandsenttotheproducers.Paola:Yousaidthebenefitwastochangehistory,butwoulditnotbebeneficialtotearanotherholeinspaceandcreateanothersituationthatwouldbenefitthealiens?Don’ttheycomethroughandtravelthroughwormholesthatgotootherrealities?Bielek:Thatispossible.Ifthealiensweretocomeinandwereknowledgeableaboutspace-time,yes,theycouldrearrangesomeofourhistoryforusthatwouldmakeitmoreadvantageousforthemselves.IdonotknowwhichalienshavetimetraveltechnologiesbutIknowthePleiadiansdo.WecreatedwormholeswithMontaukbuttheAncientsalreadyhadwormholes,called“Stargates.”Thisisallpossible.TimelineofTimeTravel

DetailscourtesythewebsiteofAlBielek,www.bielek.com

ThestorybeginsinJuneof1943,withtheU.S.S.Eldridge,DE(DestroyerEscort)173,beingfittedwithtonsofexperimentalelectronicequipment.Thisincluded(accordingtoonesource):

-Twomassivegeneratorsof75KVAeach,mountedwheretheforwardgunturretwouldhavebeen,distributingtheirpowerthroughfourmagneticcoilsmountedonthedeck

-ThreeRFtransmitters(2megawattCWeach,mountedonthedeck)-Threethousand‘6L6’poweramplifiertubes(usedtodrivethefieldcoilsofthetwogenerators)-Specialsynchronizingandmodulationcircuits-Ahostofotherspecializedhardware

Thesewereemployedtogeneratemassiveelectromagneticfieldswhich,whenproperlyconfigured,

wouldbeabletobendlightandradiowavesaroundtheship,thusmakingitinvisibletoenemyobservers.Theexperiment;saidtohavetakenplaceatthePhiladelphiaNavalYardandalsoatsea,tookplaceon

atleastoneoccasionwhileinfullviewoftheMerchantMarineShipS.S.AndrewFurusethandotherobservationships.TheAndrewFurusethbecomessignificantbecauseoneofitscrewmenisthesourceofmostoftheoriginalmaterialmakingupthePXlegend.CarlosAllende,a.k.a.CarlAllen,wroteaseriesofstrangeletterstooneDr.MorrisK.Jessup,inthe1950s,whereheclaimstohavewitnessedatleastoneoftheseveralphasesofthePhildelphiaExperiment.At0900hours,onJuly22,1943,sothestorygoes,thepowertothegeneratorswasturnedon,andthemassiveelectromagneticfieldsstartedtobuildup.Agreenishfogwasseentoslowlyenveloptheship,concealingitfromview.Thenthefogitselfissaidtohavedisappeared,takingtheEldridgewithit;leavingonlyundisturbedwaterwheretheshiphadbeenanchoredonlymomentsbefore.TheeliteofficersoftheNavyandscientistsinvolvedgazedinaweattheirgreatestachievement:theshipandcrewwerenotonlyradarinvisiblebutinvisibletotheeyeaswell!Everythingworkedasplanned,andaboutfifteenminuteslatertheyorderedthementoshutdownthegenerators.ThegreenishfogslowlyreappearedandtheEldridgebegantodematerializeasthefogsubsided,butitwasevidenttoallthatsomethinghadgonewrong.Whenboardedbypersonnelfromshore,thecrewabovedeckwasfoundtobedisorientedandnauseous.TheNavyremovedthecrewand,shortlyafter,obtainedanother.

Intheend,theNavydecidedthattheyonlywantedradarinvisibility,andtheequipmentwasaltered.OntheOctober28,1943,at17:15,thefinaltestontheEldridgewasperformed.Theelectromagneticfieldgeneratorswereturnedonagain,andtheEldridgebecamenearinvisible;onlyafaintoutlineofthehullremainedvisibleinthewater.Everythingwasfineforthefirstfewseconds;andthen,inablindingblueflash,theshipcompletelyvanished.Withinsecondsitreappeared,milesaway,inNorfolk,Virginia,andwasseenforseveralminutes.TheEldridgethendisappearedfromNorfolk,asmysteriouslyasithadarrived,andreappearedbackinPhiladelphiaNavalYard.Thistime,mostofthesailorswereviolentlysick.Someofthecrewwassimplymissing,nevertoreturn.

Somewentcrazy,but,strangestofall,fivemenwerefusedtothemetalintheship’sstructure.Thementhatsurvivedwereneverthesameagain.Thosethatlivedweredischargedas“mentallyunfit”forduty,regardlessoftheirtruecondition.So,whathadbegunasanexperimentinelectroniccamouflageendedupasanaccidentalteleportationofanentireshipandcrewtoadistantlocationandbackagain,allinamatterofminutes!Althoughtheabovemayseemfantastic,onemustrememberthatinthe1940stheatomicbombwasalsobeinginvented.TimelineforEdCameron/AlBielek,courtesyofwww.bielek.com1916:BirthdateforEdCameron.AlBielekistheregressedessenceofEdCameron.

1927:BirthdateofAlBielek.Al’sfirstmemoriesareatChristmas,whenhewasoneyearold,andhisunderstandingofalltheconversation.1943:August13,1943-DateofthePhildelphiaExperiment.WhenEdandDuncanCameronjumpofftheU.S.S.Eldridge,theybothlandintheyear2137.1953:FinalyearofEdCameron’slinearexperience.EdknewtoomuchandirritatedDrEdwardTeller.AgroupofthreevotedEdofftheAtomicBombprojectandultimatelyoutofexistenceasEdCameronisregressedtoAlBielektotheyear1927.1983:EdandDuncanCameronfindthemselvesatMontaukin1983,afterspendingsixweeksin2137.Dr.JohnVonNeumanngreetsthetwoandconvincesthemtotimetravelbacktotheU.S.S.Eldridgein1943,todestroythecontrolequipmentandshuttheexperimentdown.1970–88:AlisrecruitedtoworkatMontauk.Hekeepstheguiseofhisregularjobasanelectronicscontractor,butworksinanalteredstateatMontauk.HewasaprogrammanagerfortheMontaukBoysprogram,participatedinthemindcontrolexperiments,andactivelyparticipatedintimetravelprojects.1988:HismemoriesreturnedandhebelieveshewasnotusedanyfurtheratMontauk.2000-2011:AlBielekspeakspubliclyabouthisinvolvementatMontaukandthePhildelphiaExperiment.Heisonover50radiotalkshowsandisafeaturedpresenteratover40conferences.2137:AfterEdandDuncanjumpedofftheU.S.S.Eldridgein1943;theylandedintheyear2137.Theybothspentsixweeksinahospitalbedrecoveringfromradiationburnssufferedfrombeinginhyperspace.Towardtheendoftheirstayinhospital,Edismoved,bymeansunknowntohim,totheyear2749.2751:Aftertwoyears,Edgoesbacktotheyear2137.

ProtocolOneTheNeedtoStudyExpoliticsasaSeriousAcademicDiscipline

TheneedtodevelopthedisciplinedareaofstudyforExopoliticsthewaywedidforExo-biology.-Aninternationalpanelofinquiryneedstobeestablished.-Exopoliticsshouldbetaughtasanacademicdisciplineincollegesanduniversitiesaspartofthesocialsciencesdepartment.TheDisciplineofExopolitics“RelationshipswithInhabitantsofCelestrialBodies”MJ-12draftdocumentbyProfessorAlbertEinstein(PrincetonUniversity)andDr.J.RobertOppenheimer(DirectorofAdvancedStudies,Princeton,NewJersey).www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/pre1948.php

Pictured:ProfessorAlbertEinsteinandDr.J.RobertOppenheimer.

Aspartofthecompiled,Majestic-12documentsleakedtoTimCooperandstudiedbythefathersonteamofRyanandBobWood,thisimportantdocumentcompletelysupportsourcasefordeveloping“intelligent”protocolsand“apublic,aswellaspoliticalpolicy”forcontact.NoonemorethanAlbertEinsteinandwasprivytotheTruth.NoonemorethanEinsteinandOppenheimercouldforeseeagovernmentalcover-upandnoonemorethantheywouldbemorefascinatedwiththeideaofalienvisitation.ThisdocumentdraftofJune1947wasironicallytoreflectwhatwastohappenonemonthlaterinJuly1947inRoswell,NewMexico.ItisworthstudyingtheentiredraftwhichcanbeseenonRyanWood’swebsitebecauseitispowerfulandsuggeststhatthesemenfeltaburdenofresponsibilitytoestablishprotocolsforpossible“futurecontact.”Inadocumentdraftofficiallyentitled“RelationshipwithInhabitantsofCelestrialBodies,”AlbertEinsteinandRobertOppenheimersuggestanewinternationallawshouldbeestablishedcalled“law”amongPlanetaryPeoples.Ifthesepeoplehadtheirownculturesandlawsthenwehumanswouldneedtoacceptmanyoftheirprinciples.Butalsoiftheyrejectpeacefulcooperationandbecomeanimminentthreattoearth,thenwewouldhavearighttolegitimatelydefendourselves.Nowwecometotheproblemofdeterminingwhattodoiftheinhabitantsofcelestrialbodiesorextraterrestrialbiologicalentities(EBE)desiretosettlehere.”

ItiscuriousheretheyusetheEBEabbreviationforextraterrestrialBiologicalEntities.SoIasked

researcherRyanWoodwhywasthistermEBEwasusedinthisdraftfromJune1947sinceIbelievedthistermwasfirstcoinedfortheentitiesintheRoswellcrashthathappenedlaterinJuly1947.HeremindedmethattheCapeGirardeaucrashin1941hadthesebeingsaboardandprobablythegovernmentknewaboutthemalready.Ironically,thesuggestionwasmadebyRobertOppenheimertosubmitthisdrafttothePresidentinJune1947butrebuttedbyahandwrittenmemo(seeninthedraft)writtenbyDr.VannevarBushwhowasagainstit.Thereweremanypeople,then,whosuggestedthatweestablishprotocolsforeitheracceptingthese“aliencultures”orforhidingthisrealityasearlyasthis.Einstein-Oppenheimeralsosuggest:“Ifitwerea“moralentity?Themostfeasiblesolutionitseemswouldbethisone.Submittan

agreementforthepeacefulabsorptionofacelestialrace(s)insuchamannerthatourculturewillremainintactwiththeguaranteesthattheirpresencenotberevealed.”

Isthiswhatstartedthiscover-up,oneasks?HereishowStevenBassettofPRGseesthisscenario.“TheParadigmClock,createdandpublishedbyPRGin1998totracktheproximitytoaformalannouncementbytheUnitedStatesGovernmentconfirminganextraterrestrialpresenceengagingthehumanrace,hasbeenresetto11:59:45––fifteensecondstomidnight.SuchanannouncementisformallyreferredtoasDisclosureandwouldmarktheendofa59-yeartruthembargoimposedbyfederalauthorities.MidnightontheParadigmClockisDisclosure.AccordingtoPRGExecutiveDirector,StephenBassett,“DuetoextraordinarycircumstancesprimarilypertainingbutnotlimitedtotheUnitedStates,awindowofopportunityhasopenedforaDisclosureeventtotakeplace.ThiswindowshouldlastthroughtheNovemberelectionandmayremainopenorpossiblyclosedependingupontheoutcomeofthe

election.”Hefurtheradded,“Ibelievethistobethebestopportunitytogetpastthisverydifficulttransitioninhumanhistorysincethetruthembargowasinitiallyimposedin1947.“TheprevioussettingfortheParadigmClockwas11:58:45onMarch8,2004.”[www.paradigmclock.com/chronicleexplanations.html]

ThisreflectstheurgencywithwhichonApril4,2006,StevenBassett,whoisdedicatedtofulldisclosureandwhoiscreatoroftheX-ConferenceinWashington,D.C.postedthismessage.ButthisurgencyisalsoreflectedintheothersectionsoftheEinstein-Oppenheimerdocumentthathasotherconcerns.Thedocumentsuggeststhattheconceptofresnulliuswhichmeansnobody’sresidenceandtheystateclearly“themoonbelongstonoone!”SothisaddressesindirectlytheUSconceptofbasesonthemoonandclaimingthemoonasproperty.Theygoontoask“thefinalquestionofwhetherthepresenceofCelestialAstroplanesinouratmosphereisadirectresultofourtestingofatomicweapons.”ThepresenceofUnidentifiedspacecraftflyinginouratmosphere(andpossiblymaintainingorbitsaroundourplanetisnowhoweveraccepted(isdefacto)byourmilitary…Theuseoftheatomicbombcombinedwithspacevehiclesposesathreatonascalethatmakesitabsolutelynecessarytocometoanagreementinthisarea.”TheysuggestthatthesenucleartestshavesubjectedEarthtocelestialscrutinyandtheyadd“rightfullyso”andtheyaddthatETs“couldbecuriousandalarmedbysuchactivity.”Thisisanunderstatement!

“AStarDreamsInitiativeshoulddevelopinteractiveprotocols,settingouttheparametersoftheprojectandappropriateproposalsforoutreach,contact,andpublicinterestdiplomacy.Thesewouldincludeinterplanetarytreatiesestablishingformalrelationsanddetailingessentialfunctions,suchasfundamentaldeclarationsofprinciplesgoverningrights,governmentownership,andotherkeyprinciplesofspacelaw,bansonspaceweaponsandwarfareinspace,outerspaceexplorationstandards,security,technologytransfer,andinterplanetaryimmigration.”Ironically,EinsteinandOppenheimersay:“IftheUnitedNationswerea‘supra-UnitedNations’typeorganization,itwouldhavecompetency

todealwithallproblemsrelatedtoextra-terrestrialpeople.OfcoursealthoughitismerelyanInternationalorganization,itcouldhavethiscompetenceifitsmemberstateswouldbewillingtorecognizeit.”(page3,partB)

EinsteinandOppenheimer“suggestanewinternationallawshouldbeestablishedamongPlanetaryPeoples.Ifthesepeople(ETS)hadtheirownculturesandlawsthenwehumanswouldneedtoacceptmanyoftheirprinciples.”(June1947draft)

IrecentlymetLeeSpeigel,whograciouslygavemephotosoftheU.N.resolutionmeetings(see

below).HewasresponsiblefororganizingtheGrenadaresolutioncommitteethatintroducedUFOstotheUnitedNations.HegatheredthemostimportantpeopleofthetimeincludingDr.J.AllenHynek,JacquesVallee,andastronautGordonCooper.Leeistobeheraldedassomeonewhotookactiontobringthisphenomenontoworldattention.JournalistslikeLeemakethingshappen,andweneedmoreactivistslikehim.LeenowwritesfortheHuffingtonPost.

SirEricM.Gairy,PrimeMinisterandMinisterforExternalAffairsoftheCaribbeanIslandnationofGrenada,spokebeforetheUnitedNations,GeneralAssembly,Thirty-ThirdSession,32ndPlenaryMeeting,onThursday,October12,1978.ThekeypointsofSirEricGairy’sU.N.speechthatisrelativetothisarticlearehere:

Article182:“DuringourfouryearsofmembershipintheUnitedNationswehaveraisedmanymattersofimportance,someofwhichhavebeenconsideredinnovative,otherswerecurrentandregularbutourviewsusheredinnewthoughtsaboutthem,thoughtsthatarousednewvistasinanattempttotackletraditionalthought-patterns.Andstillfurtherwehavebeenintroducingsomeverythought-provokingsubjectsofworldimportanceandworldconcern,subjectsconsideredbysometobestrangeandextraneous,butwhichwefeelaresufficientlyimportantandsignificanttomeritourconstantarticulation

andreviewofthem,howeverandwhenevertheopportunitypermits.Permitmetorefertoonlyafew:thequestionofwomen’srights,theuniversalityofGod,economiccruelty,theproblemsofmanandhisenvironment,disarmament,manandhismaterialandspiritualbehavior,theBermudaTriangle,unidentifiedflyingobjectsandextraterrestrialphenomena,decolonizationandterritorialintegrity,humanrights,andunduesolacegiventoterrorists.”

ItisreportedthatpriortoreturninghometoGrenada,SirEricvisitedwithPresidentJimmyCarter,

duringwhichtheydiscussedtheirindividualUFOsightingexperiencesandthependingU.N.resolution.ItisalsoreportedthatZbigniewBrzezinskiattendedthismeeting.SirEricreturnedtoNewYorkCityonMarch12,1979tomeetwiththethenSecretaryGeneraloftheUnitedNations,KurtWalheim.TheofficialpurposeofthismeetingwastodiscussthefactthatonDecember18,1978,theUnitedNationsGeneralAssemblyvotedtoapprovedecision33/426,invitingU.N.MemberStates“totakeappropriatestepstocoordinateonanationallevelscientificresearchandinvestigationintoextraterrestriallife,includingunidentifiedflyingobjects,andtoinformtheSecretary-Generaloftheobservations,researchandevaluationofsuchactivities.”TheUnitedStateswasthesoleU.N.membernationthatunsuccessfullyattemptedtoblockthat1978U.N.ETresolution.

Dr.MichaelSalla,withhiswifeAngelikaWhitecliff,createdTheExopoliticsInstitutetoaddresstheseconcernsandpolicyissues.IamontheboardofdirectorsandamtheirinternationaladvisorsinceIlivedinRome,ItalyandtraveloftenthroughoutEurope.TheExopoliticsInstituteisdedicatedtostudyingthekeypoliticalactors,institutionsandprocessesassociatedwithcredibleevidencethatextraterrestrialcivilizationsarevisiting,monitoringorresidingonEarth.TheInstitutesupportsthestudyanddisseminationofinformationandtechnologiesfrom‘whistleblowers’or‘privatecitizens’whoclaimtohavephysicallyinteractedwithextraterrestrials,orhadaccesstocovertmilitary-corporateprogramsinvolvingextraterrestrialtechnologies.TheInstitutepromotes‘citizendiplomacyinitiatives’forpeacefulcommunicationsandinteractionswithextraterrestrialcivilizationsthatevidencesuggestsareinteractingwithormonitoringhumanity.TheInstituteseekstopreparehumanityforinteractingwithextraterrestrialcivilizationswhoseexistenceissupportedbycredibleevidence,andsupportsfullpublicdisclosureby

governmentauthoritiesofallevidenceconcerningtheextraterrestrialpresence.TheInstitutesupportsthevisionofaninterconnectedglobalhumansocietythatinteractswithextraterrestrialcivilizationsinapeaceful,harmoniousandmutuallyrespectfulmanner.

DuringtheExopoliticsInstitute’s2006Hawaiiconference,keynotespeaker,formerCanadianMinisterofDefensePaulHellyer,echoedoursentimentswhenhesaid:“Whataretheconsequencesofthelong-timecover-upofextraterrestrialintelligenceandadvanced

technology?“Itappearsthatrealgovernmenthaspassedfromelectedaccountablerepresentativesofthe

people,toanunelected,unaccountableelitegroupofseniorgovernmentofficialsandindustrialleaders,an‘IndustrialMilitaryComplex,’whoseagendaisincompatiblewiththeneedsanddesiresofthepopulationat-large.Atleastthatismyunshakeableconviction.Evidenceindicatesthatthesurvivaloftheplanetasareasonablyfriendlyandhospitableenvironmentisatstake,andthatvestedinterestsmaybeblockingplanstosaveitbeforeitistoolate.Evenworse,the‘MilitaryIndustrialComplex’thatGeneralDwightEisenhowerwarnedusaboutiscreatingandproducingweaponssystemsdesignedtoconfrontvisitorsfromspaceand,intheprocess,isproceedingtoasituationthatcouldbeasure-firerecipeforapossibleconflict.Onehesitatestocontemplatetheunknownandpotentiallydisastrousconsequences.Onlyanearlyandcompletedisclosureofthetruthcansaveusfromourfolly.”

EinsteinandOppenheimeragreewhentheysay:“Ifmilitarystrategistsareplanninganattackwithmissileswithnuclearwarheadscomingfromtheskywhichwillbedifficulttodeterminefromwhencetheycame.Iftheyaremis-identified,itmaycauseaspacewar.”

PaulHellyer,inmyinterviewwithhiminFebruary2006,toldmehewas“deeplyconcernedbecausethiscover-upinvolvesseriouspolicyissuesforCanadaandtheworld.”Pauladds,“Arecentbook,MajicEyesOnly,byRyanS.Wood,isequallycompelling.Wooddocumentsseventy-fourUFOcrashesfrom1897tothepresent.Whiletheevidenceismuchstrongerinsomeofthecasesthaninothers,thereismorethanenoughtoconvinceanunbiasedreaderthat,asthedustjacketstates,(1)UFOshavecrashedonEarth;(2)governmentshaverecoveredandexploitedthesealientechnologygifts;and(3)mostdisturbingtoademocraticandfreesociety:thealiensecretismoreimportantthanconstitutionalorindividualrights.”

AnExopoliticalConsiderationandaChallengeforResearchersIwillposethequestionofrecognitionofUFOsightings.Aftersixtyyearsofseriousbackengineering

ofaliencraft,weneedtoaskourselvesifwhatweareseeingintheskiesis“ourstuff”or“theirstuff.”Whatcriteriadoweusetodecidethis?Fortheanswertothis,Iwenttotwoexperiencedauthorities:oneonUFOsandcrashretrievals,andClarkMcClelland,aNASAengineerwhoworkedtwenty-twoyearsonalltheApollomissions.

McClellandtoldmethathewasalertedthathewouldseethesecraftwhenhewenttoBelizeonvacationin1995.Theyweretwoflyingsaucersthatflewoneinthewakeoftheother.Hehastheincrediblegraphicsonhiswebsite,www.stargate-chronicles.com.

SaysMcClelland,“Personally,IbelievethattheOnionDrivetechnologyisflyingintheskiesofeartheachday.IobservedtwooverBelizein1995andtwomoreaboutamonthago,overmytowninFlorida.Advancedweaponssystemsaredevelopedabout20,30to40yearspriortothereleaseofsuchtechnologytotheworldpublic.ThepeopleonEarthhavenoknowledgeofwhatadvancedcraftsareflyingintheskiesandaregoingtotheMoon,Marsandbeyond.”(ClarkC.McClelland,formerScienceOfficer,SpaceShuttleFleet,KennedySpaceCenter,Florida,1958to1992.)

ToMoon,Marsandbeyond!Oh,Oh,Houston!Wehavearealproblemherein2012,withUFOsightings,becausewecivilianscan’ttellthedifference.However,weknowitisuselesstoinventmoreorganizationstoarchivethem.Wehavebeendoingthatforyearsandweknowthephenomenaexist.WemayberecordingourstuffthatDOESgofasterthanthespeedoflight.

Atconferencesrecently,Ishowastounding,close-upfilmfootageofacraftcomingoutofaforest,doingtwo360-degreeturnsinfrontofacameraman,whohasavideocameraonatripod,andthenitjetsoffintothesunsetatlightspeed.ThisplaceisPontediGiulio,intheVenetoregionofItaly,neartheNATObaseofAviano.ThatareaisamilitaryareawheresoldierspracticemaneuversandIdonotthinkalienswereinvitedtovisitandseetheshow.

ThefilmfootagewasanalyzedinHollywoodandtheobjectonthescreenis“real”;butrealmilitaryorrealalienisthequestion?Which?Inthisnewdecadeofresearchwewillhavemanymorechallengeslikethis.Ironically,thosewhoseethisfootagearguetothedeaththatitisalienbecausetheylovetheideaofacloseencounterlikethis.

Iamconvincedthatsome,ifnotmost,ofthecraftweareseeingin2012areourownback-engineered,top-secretaircraft.IhaveanastoundinginterviewwithEdRothschildFouche,whoworkedatArea51,inmyfirstbookConnectingtheDots:MakingSenseoftheUFOPhenomena.HespokeaboutthetriangularantigravityTR3Bthatisaback-engineered,triangularaliencraftthatcaneasilybemistakenforaUFO.WastheBelgiumsightingtheTR3B––andwhywouldthisaircraftbeflownthroughapopulatedarea,riskingdamagetociviliansandvillages?Manytriangularcrafthavebeenseen,whiletheyhavebeenflight-testedovertheArea51NellisRanges,byresearchersandresponsiblecitizens.SomesaythePhoenixtrianglecraft,partofthePhoenixLightsphenomena,couldalsobeexotictechnology.ArizonaResearcher,JimDilettoso,whoexaminedthevideoandstillphotographs,doesnotagree.HesaysthatDr.LynnKitei,whofilmedit,sawtheorange“orbs”detachandattachthemselvestothishuge-shapedcraft,whichwasthesizeofseveralfootballfields.SowecanassumethiswasatrueUFOandmostlikely“theirstuff,”especiallysinceflyingacraftthissizeoverthehuge,populatedareaofPhoenix,Arizona,andtohavesomanyamateurvideocameraoperatorsfilmit,wouldbeabsurd.

AnothercaseinpointtoexaminemightbetheRendleshamForest,Bentwaterscase.OneNASAengineertoldmethatwasprobablytheTR3BadvancedaircraftcheckingthesecurityoftheUSnucleararsenalinEngland.ButfromthewitnesstestimonyofLarryWarrenandLt.Col.CharlesHalt,itisobviousthatthecraftwashavingflyingdifficultiesandthemilitarymenwereterrifiedatthisincident.Mostofthemwerealsointenselydebriefedrightafterithappened.Ifthiswasoursurveillancecraft,why

wastheheadcommanderoftheBentwatersbasenotwarned?Fortheanswer,IwenttoSergeantCliffordStone,whoworkedoncrashretrievalswithrecoveryprojectsMoonDustandBlueFly,toldmeinatelephoneconversationonJanuary2,2000,thathewasinGermanyatthetimeandtheBentwaterscasewasarealUFOcase.

ProtocolTwoOurStufforTheirStuff?ThatistheQuestion.

Weneedtodevelopclarityaboutourback-engineeredalientechnology,otherwise,wemaybe

shootingatourselvesinourownback-engineeredcraftsandsimulatingaspacewar.WeneedsomeguidelinessowearenotmisidentifyingUFOs.

-Whodoesouradvancedtechnologybenefit?-WhatisthemilitaryandIndustrialcomplexuptoandwherearethe“blackbudgets”going?-Willgovernmentschoosetodisclosethetruthorarewedoomedtoplaythis“gameforever?”

OurStufforTheirStuff?Back-engineeredTechnologyNASAandDisclosure:InterviewwithClarkMcClellandThelatestNASAfilmfootageoutonDVDisoutstandingandindisputable

InJoseEscamilla’sdocumentaryfilmTheGreatestStoryEverDenied,thereisvisibleproofofunidentifiedobjectsinspace,artificialstructuresonthemoonandglobe-likelightspheresaroundtheSTSSpaceShuttlemissions.Thosefamousintelligent“ballsoflight,”forwhichInamedthisbook,arenowvisible.NASAknowsandtherearethoseinNASAwhowishtotellthetruthaswellasthosewhowanttomaintainthe“cover-up”!

Pictured:PaolaHarris,RichardHoagland,andDr.RobinFalkovinItaly.

Again,inhisbrilliantspeechinGreece,Mr.ComeCarpentiersays:“Thereisnowalargenumberofdeclassified,orleakedbutverified,officialreportsfromvarious

AirForces,Navies,Armiesandinternationalmilitarystructures,suchasNATO,NORADetal,aboutencounters,incidents,chases,dogfightsandconfrontationswithalienspacecraftexhibitingpropertiesfarsuperiortoanyavailableintheconventionalarsenalsofearthlypowers.Forexample,therearedetailedrecordsaboutthe1967Malmstrommissileshutdown(oneamongseveralcases)when,in1967,visitingUFOsdeactivatedanumberofMontana-basedICBMmissilesintheirundergroundsilos.Asurprisinglyhighnumberofmilitaryofficersofseveralcountries,including3-stargenerals,airmarshalsandadmirals,nottomentionastronautsintheApolloprogram(RussellSchweikart,BrianO’Leary,BuzzAldrinandScottCarpenteramongothers),haveadmittedpubliclytohavingseenorbeenshownevidenceofUFOsthat,intheirbestjudgment,couldnothavebeenofhuman,terrestrial

origin.”Onesuchgroundcrewastronautwhohasbeenveryvocalabouthisexperiencesworkingfortwenty-

twoyearsatNASAKSC,Florida,isClarkMcClelland.HeiscurrentlypreparinghisownbookandIthankhimforsharingthismaterialwithme.Hespeaksfromfirsthandknowledge.InterviewwithClarkMcClellandabouthisconversationwithSenatorBarryGoldwateratKennedySpaceCenter,June16,1969ClarkC.McClelland,formerScO,SpaceShuttleFleet,KennedySpaceCenter,Floridafrom1958to1992Paola:YouhadseveralassignmentsatKennedySpaceCenter.Thatisabeautifulphotographyousentme,ofyouafterthelaunchofSTS-48shuttlemission.Canyounamesomeofyourjobtitles?McClelland:MytitlesattheCapewere:StructuralDesigner,AerospaceEngineer–MissionPlanner,AerospaceEngineer–LaunchOperations,TechnicalAssistanttotheApolloProgramManager,MissionOperationsMonitorintheLCC(LaunchOperationsCenter).Paola:Clark,canyounamesomeastronautsthatknewofthealienpresenceandwithwhomyouspokepersonally?McClelland:EllisonOnizuka,whosawtwo,whatappearedtobe,aliens;Dr.StoryMusgrave––‘TheDemonstration,’comments.CommentsbyDr.VonBraunin‘ChasingJuno.’Commentsin‘InterferingwithAtlas’andthelettertomefromUSAFMajorMansmann.LookatmywebsiteforthesearticlesandintheThoseWhoKnowsectionforthecommentsmadetomebyastronautsDekeSlaytonandGordonCooperandreadwhatDr.EdgarMitchellhassaid.Paola:YouoncetoldmeyoutalkedaboutUFOswithSenatorBarryGoldwater,ofArizona.Canyoutellusaboutit?McClelland:ThedateofJuly16,1969,wasthedayofthelaunchofApollo11andtheinitialkick-offforthefirstlandingofthehumanraceonourneighbor,theMoon.TheglobalimportanceofthismajorhistoriceventwasveryevidentattheKennedySpaceCenter,Florida.ItwasMoonShotDay!ManyfamouspeoplefromallovertheworldgatheredintheVIPlaunch-viewingarea,neartheApolloLCC(LaunchControlCenter).Thesecuritywasatitshighestlevel,withVIPguestspresentfromeverynationonearth.OneguestwasapersonwhomIhadsupportedduringhispoliticalcareer:SenatorBarryM.GoldwaterofArizona.HehadbeentheRepublicanPresidentialcandidatein1964,runningagainstPresidentLyndonB.Johnson.Hehadlostbyawidemarginbutwe,inFlorida,haddeliveredhimavictoryinBrevardCounty,FloridaandtheSpacePortareaandhadprideinourselvesregardingthatminoraccomplishment.In1968,GoldwaterwonbackhisSenatorialseatinArizona.

Pictured:ClarkMcClellandandBarryGoldwater,1968.Paola:ButSenatorGoldwaterwasalsoamilitaryman.McClelland:SenatorBarryM.GoldwaterwasaformerMajorGeneralintheUnitedStatesArmyAirCorp,wantingtobeafighterpilotofaP-47Thunderboltand/oraP-51Mustangaircraft,butwasassignedtodelivervariousaircrafttocombatareas.Hehadflownanestimated160-plusotherplanesduringhisWorldWarIIandcivilianyears.Iwasalsoinformedthathehadbeenchecked-outinanSR-71Blackbird.Thatwasveryimpressivetolearn.Paola:So,howwasthephototaken?McClelland:DuringthelongcountdownoftheSaturnVApollo11launchvehicle,ItookabreakfastbreakfromtheLCCandwalkedtothenearbyVIPguest-viewingsite,inhopesofmeetingSenatorGoldwater.AsIscannedthenumerouspeoplegathered,IaskedoneofoursecurityguardsifhewasawareofthelocationofGoldwater.Hepointedhisfingertoanopenfieldnearbysaying,“Doyouseethatguyoverthere,settinguphiscameratripod,Mac?That’sSenatorGoldwater.”IhadmycameraaroundmyneckinhopesofhavingaphotoopportunitywiththeSenator.Istrolledacrossthecrabgrassturf,ashewassettinguphispersonalcamera.Iwassurprisedhewasalone,exceptforahalfdozenothergueststhatwerenearby,alsosettinguptheircameras.Iintroducedmyselfandherespondedwithapolitegreeting.Paola:HowdidyouaskhimaboutUFOsandwhatdidyoufindout?McClelland:IseriouslyponderedmynextquestionconcerningUFOsandfinallyaskedhimifhewoulddiscussthesubjectwithme?IwassurprisedhehadnoSecretServiceAgentsorNASAPublicAffairspersonnelhoveringaroundhim.IexplainedmypositionatKSCandmybeingtheNICAPUnit-3DirectorforMajorDonaldE.KeyhoeatKSC.HehadmetKeyhoeinDC,yearsbefore.HeapprovedourdiscussionontheUFOsubjectandwebeganourexchangeofinformation.Ibeganbysayingitwasobvioushehadadeep,abidinginterestinUFOsandpossiblevisitsofalienracestoEarth.Hesaid,“ThatisacceptedfactinWashington,andespeciallyatthePentagon,youngman.”

IhadsomeunderstandingofhisallegedstatementsregardingUFOsinthepastandbroughtupthepopularstoryofhisefforttogainentryintoaspecialstorageareaatWright-PattersonAFB,whichpurportedlyhadalienartifactsinit.Hesaid,“Yes,that’sthemaineventconcerningmeandUFOs.IwasundertheimpressionthataUSSenator,withapastasaMajorGeneralintheUSArmyAirCorpandamemberoftheUSSenateSelectCommitteeonIntelligenceformanyyears,wouldcarrysomeweightinmyallowancestoentersuchanareaofmilitarysecrecy.Iwasrudelyawakenedtoreality,veryswiftly,whenIwasdeniedpassage.IthadmeangryenoughtodiscussitwithapersonalfriendofmineinthemilitaryandIinquiredwhymypositionintheUSSenatehadnosuchallowance?Myfriend,GeneralCurtisLeMay,ChairmanoftheMilitaryJointChiefsofStaffatthePentagon,veryangrilytoldmethatIhadnoneedtoknow.HegavemealotofhellaboutmyactivitiesatWright-Patterson.Hethreatenedto

endourfriendshipforlife!MyGod,Mac,thatsurprisedthehelloutofme!”LeMayadded,“YoustayclearofourmutualfriendButchtoo(meaningGeneralWilliam“Butch”

Blanchard).HishavingbeenatRoswell(laterWalker)ArmyAirBaseandthe509thwillnotgainyouanyfavorforknowledgeofthatRoswellcrashclaim,Mac.”Goldwatersaid,“ButchBlanchardwasalsoaveryvaluedfriendofmine,sinceWorldWarII.HewasthepersonwhoannouncedthatadischadcrashednearRoswellin1947.Thiscussingoutdidawakenmetoonefact:thattheUFOsituationisthehighestlevelofnationalsecrecy.MuchhigherthantheH-BombwasandmorethananythingelsethatisknownwithinthePentagon,FBI,CIA,DIA,NSA,etc.Thatis,nothingishighersecuritythanaliensbeinghereonthisplanet.ThenIrealizedCurtiswascorrectandIneveragainapproachedhimonthesubject.ThatseemedtoprovetomethatUFOswereafact,anddoexist.But,aretheyallaliens?Ihighlysuspectamajorityare!Hell,theyarenodoubtfaraheadofourlevelofintelligence.TheUnitedStatesAirForceknowsthetruth,butwilltheyeverrevealittothisnation?”

Iquicklysaid,“Yes,Senator,someUFOssighted,IhavelearnedthroughtheONI,arealien.”Hiseyesbrightenedupandheshowedsurprise,saying,“Mac,howwouldyouknowthatasafactandIwasdeniedthetruth?”Isaid,“Senator,Iwashere,atKSC,andhadalsobeenatCapeCanaveral,sincethestartofournationalspaceprogram.Withallduerespectforyourgreataccomplishments,sir,youwerenot.I’veheardandseenthingsthat,withoutanydoubt,provedtomethatUFOsandstarracesexist.”

Isaid,“Congressisnotmadeawareofsecretsofthiscaliber.ThePentagoncontrolssuchdisclosures.”Goldwatersaid,“Yes,Igetyourpoint.Youwere,andare,onthecuttingedgeoftechnology,Mac.Hell,youhaveseeneventsIcanonlydreamabout!”Ireplied,“Yes,sir,morethanyouknow!”Paola:HowmuchdoyouthinkSenatorGoldwaterreallyknew?McClelland:ItestedtheSenatorwithanotherquestion.Iaskedhimifhewas,atthattime,awareofthefactthatseveralformerGermanscientistswereassignedtoWrightField.Hesaid,“No,Mac,Iwasnot.”ThenoneofthenearbylaunchviewerscameclosetoourlocationandIstoppedthediscussion.ThemanwantedtosayhelloandshakethehandofSenatorGoldwater.Followinghisdeparture,Icontinued,saying,“ThoseGermanswereatWrightsincepost-WorldWarIIandassignedtoreverse-engineercertainretrievedhardwarethatwassuspectedtobeofalienorigin.TheyaccomplishedthatassignmentoftheobjectthatcrashedinKecksburg,Pennsylvania.ItwastakentoWrightField.SenatorGoldwatersaid,“Yes,Irecallthatincident.Whatwasit?Doyouknow?”Ireplied,“Yes,sir,itwasaSovietfailedmissiontoVenusin1965.Itwasnotalien,Senator.ThepublicwasleadtobelieveitwasaUFO.FareasiertoexplainthanamissilefromtheUSSRhittingwithintheUSA.”Goldwateragreed.

GoldwateraskedifIwasawarewhotheGermanswere.Ireplied,“Yes,onewasSiegfriedKnemeyer,theformerheadoftheGermanRLM(TheReichsluftfahrtministerium),theThirdReich’sAirMinistryforaircraftdevelopmentfortheLuftwaffe.Hediedin1979,intheUSA.AnotherwasDr.HansAmtmann,anexpertinverticaltake-offaircraft.OneotherIamfamiliarwithisDr.AlexanderLippisch,whowasmorewellknownandapioneerintaillessaircraft,theUSDeltawingfighter,theF-102ADeltaDaggerandanadvanceddesignofaground-effectflyingboat.I’malmostcertainthesemenalsodidareverseengineeringontheobjectthatcrashednearRoswell,NewMexico.”IcouldseethatwhatIwastellingtheSenatormayhavehadhismindinaspin.So,Isloweddown.

Hecontinuedtheconversationsaying,“Mac,youworkinoneofthemostsecretiveandimportantareasofournationalsecurity,onthecuttingedgeofspacescience,andare,nodoubt,awareofmuchthathashappenedandishappeningduringourmissionsintospace.”Iconfirmedhisstatement,sayingIwasalsopartofanONI(OfficeofNavalIntelligence)UnitatPatrickAirForceBase,SouthoftheCape.Hewassurprisedtohearthatfact.Hesaid,“So,youareNavalIntelligence,youngman?”Isaid,“Well,yessir,but,onlyonemember.”Hecontinued,makingcertainnoneofthepeoplenearbywaswithinlisteningdistance,“Now,mayIaskyouwhatyouhaveheardorseenhere?”Ijokedwithhimandsaid,“Doyou

haveaneedtoknow,sir?”andwebothlaughed.Paola:Thisisobvious,Clark.Thisisthestandardphrase!‘Theneedtoknow.’Thenyoutookthisphoto?McClelland:IaskedthemanifhewouldtakeaphotoofGoldwaterandmetogether.IaskedapprovaloftheSenatorandhegavehisOK.Followingthephotobeingtaken,Ithankedboththepeople.ThisisthephotoIsentyouduringthelaunchingofApollo11;Man’sfirstlandingonthemoon.Paola:Whatkindofconversationdidyouhaveabout‘OperationPaperclip’andtheGermanscientists?Yousaidyouknewsome?McClelland:SenatorGoldwateraskedme,“What’sRLM?”ItoldhimitwastheGermanAirMinistrythatcreatedthevariousplanes,liketheMesserschmitt,Junker,andmayhaveinfluencedtheV-1andV-2rocketsatPeenemunde.Icontinued,“TwootherPaperclipscientistsatWrightFieldareDr.HansAmtmannandDr.AlexanderLippisch.IbelieveallthreearestillatWright-PattersonAirForceBase,Senator.Perhapsyoucantryandcontactthemthere?”TheSenatorquicklyreplied,“No,notafterthatexperiencewithGeneralLeMay,Mac!”Isaid,“Senator,youareawareofthemilitaryrivalrytogaintheupperhandoverotherareasoftheUnitedStatesmilitary,whichhasbeenanon-goingpracticethroughoutournationalhistory?”Hereplied,“Yes,Iam,havingbeenassociatedwiththemilitarybudgetsintheSenate.”Icontinued,saying,“Therewas,andstillis,agreatrivalrybetweentheUSmilitaryservicesandsincetheUSAFandtheUSArmyABMAwereplayingthesamegamebetweenthematWrightField,theAMC(AirMaterialCommand)ForeignTechnologyDivisionoftheUSAFhadcapturedalientechnologyandtheUSNavywanteditsharedwiththeONI(OfficeofNavalIntelligence).AnotherhabitualUSMilitarysquabble.CanyouimaginetheSovietUnionhavingsuchsquabbles?Notonyourlife!AdmiralsandGeneralswouldhavebeenmarchedtoawallandexecuted.Infact,Stalindidjustthattoseveralofhismilitaryofficers.”Goldwateragreed.

Icontinuedtoexplainthefilm,“AsweallwatchedtheONIfilm,itdescribedthesightingofahuge400-foot,orlarger,saucer-shapedobjectthatwasencounteredbyaUSNavyR7V-2four-engineConstellationaircraftovertheAtlanticOcean.Asmanyas40militarypersonnelandaircrewobserveditasitapproachedtheaircraftandappearedtobeobservingtheNavyplane.Itwasatanaltitudeofaboutnineteentotwentythousandfeetand,atfirst,theobjectwasmistakenforbeingagatheringofmanyshipsbelowtheplane,duetoitssizewheninitially,andearlier,viewedfarbelowtheaircraftbythenavigatorandcommanderoftheplane.”Isaid,“SenatorGoldwater,Icannotrecallthenamesoftheflightcrew.”Hesaid,“Justcontinuewiththeincident,Mac.It’sveryinterestingandIwasnotawareithadhappened.”Icontinued,“Theyallwitnesseditanddescribeditashavingalarge,illuminatedouterringsinceit,andwhatsomesaidmayhavebeenothercraftbelow,werepossiblyseen.Asthelargeobjectapproachedtheplane,atabout1,000yards,thoseaboardweremystifiedandfrightened.Thecrewlatersaiditwasahuge,saucer-shapedmetallicmachine.”

Goldwaterasked,“Mac,didtheyshowphotographsofitintheONIfilm?”ItoldhimIwasnotawarethatafilmwasexposedduringtheactualincident,so,no,IdidnotseeanydepictionoftheUFO.IfanyUFOfilmwastakenatall,itwasapparentlyunderTopSecretclassificationandnotshownintheONIfilm.Somecommentsmadebythecrewinthefilmwerethattheyallconsideredthehugeobjectwas“intelligently”controlled.Theyalsosaidthatnolivingcreature,etc.,wasseen.Theyaddedthatthecraft’sspeed,fromwhenitclimbedfromnearsealeveltotheiraircraftaltitude,wasestimatedtobeabout1,400to2,000+knotsinabrieftimelapseofseventoeightseconds.

TheSenatorsaid,“That’sastounding,Mac!Whatelsewassaid?”Icontinued,“TheNavyaircraftcommanderradioedaheadtotheGanderAirForceBasecontroltowerandaskediftheirradarwasidentifyinganyotherobjectnearhisR7V-2.Thetowercontrolofficersaid,‘Yes,alargerobjectandincloseproximitytotheNavyplane.’Sir,theyverifiedthatagiganticcraftwasontheirradar!”Hereplied,

“Mac,Iwasnotawareofthatcase!IwilltryandpursueitwhenIreturntoWashington.”Ireplied,“ContactDonKeyhoeorRichardHall,hisdeputy.”Icontinuedwiththesightingsaying,“TheUSNavyFlightCommanderwasaskedbytheUSAFintervieweratGander,duringtheirindividualandgroupdebriefing,didtheyseeanyindicationoflife?Hisreplywas,‘No,butitwasintelligentlycontrolled––andmycrewandIareallwitnessestothatfact!”Thatobjectwasnotremotelycontrolled;somethinginsideofitwasincontrol!TheinterrogatorwouldnotdiscusswhattheGanderRadarhadrecordedandrefusedtoallowtheNavytoreviewit.TheNavyCommanderaskedtheAirForceOfficer,“WhatistheUSAFuptonow?YoupeoplesayUFOsdonotexist;whatthehelldidweseeiftheydon’texist?’TheUSAFOfficersaid,“Sorry,wecannotansweranyofyourquestions!”

OnMay29,1998,BarryGoldwaterpassedawayinPhoenix,Arizona.Perhapshenowknowsthesecretsofthat“secretarea”atWright-PattersonAirForceBaseandisnowawareofotherracesamongthestars.

InterviewwithApollo14AstronautDr.EdgarMitchellItcameasasurprisethatweinExopoliticsheraldedthespeechofMr.ComeCarpentiergivenin

Greeceataconference.Heisastatesman,notanUfologist,notascientist,andhesays,andIquotefromTheCaseforExopolitics:UsheringinaCosmicDialogue:

“Exopolitics,insofarasitconcernstheissueofmankind’scontactswithintelligentnon-humanlifeformsoriginatingoutsideourplanet,hasanalreadylonghistory.SinceAntiquity,humanbeingshaveponderedthisexistentialquestion:“Arewealoneintheuniverse?”andhavesoughttoansweritaccordingtotheirexperience,intuitionorimagination,withfear,hope,humororincredulity.”

WecanseeinthisspeechthatComeCarpentierhasdonehishomeworkwhenhesays:“SomeofthemanycovertgovernmentprojectsdedicatedtotheUFOsubjectinNorthAmericawere

projects,Twinkle,Ponce,Grudge,Moondust,andBluefly.Magnet(inCanada,from1950to1954,whichledtothecreationofa‘flyingsaucer’detectionstationatShirleyBaynearOttawa,fundedbytheCanadianFederalGovernmentfrom1952to1954).KennethArnoldmentionsProjectSaucerinhisbookwithRayPalmercalledTheComingoftheSaucers.Theseandotherprogramswerecreatedformonitoring,reportingonandcapturingorretrievingunidentifiedcraft.TheseprogramswereattimescontrolledbytheCIA,NSA,ONI,AirForceintelligence,etc.(morethan1000pagesofofficialdocumentshavebeenreleasedunderFOIAregardingprojectsMoondustandBluefly).”

Mr.Carpentiernamesthemallandtalksabouttheover-abundanceoftestimony,especiallyfrom

astronauts:“Asurprisinglyhighnumberofmilitaryofficersofseveralcountries,includingthree-stargenerals,

airmarshalsandadmirals,nottomentionastronautsintheApolloprogram(RussellSchweikart,BrianO’Leary,BuzzAldrin,ScottCarpenteramongothers)haveadmittedpubliclytohavingseen,orbeenshown,evidenceofUFOsthat,intheirbestjudgment,couldnothavebeenofhuman,terrestrialorigin…“NASAastronautEdgarMitchell’sstatementtothePressin1999.“Mitchell,amemberoftheDisclosureProjecthasacknowledgedpubliclythatheknowsofa‘UFO-

cover-up’engineeredandkeptbywhathecallsa“cabalofinsiders”withintheU.S.Government.AnindirectconfirmationhasbeengivenbyNewMexicoGovernor,BillRichardson,whorecentlyofficiallyaskedtheFederalGovernmenttoreleasethetruefactspertainingtotheRoswell1947episode,sofarwithoutsuccess.”

Ironically,thefollowinginterviewwithDr.EdgarMitchellwasdoneinRoswell,NewMexicoonJuly

5,2004.Dr.Mitchellisapersonalfriend,oneofthosewisemenwithunconventionalwisdombecausehesurpassestheconfiningboundariesofscientificresearchwhenhediscusses“QuantumCosmology!”Heishonestandwantstheplanettoprogressonitsevolutionarypathandhedoesincludethat“paranormalphenomena”thatAllenHynekoncetoldmenottooverlook.InterviewwithDr.EdgarMitchellApollo14AstronautRoswell,NewMexicoJuly5,2004“IthinkI’vereachedthepointthatI‘mconvincedenoughoftherealityoftheETpresenceandI’mnotgoingtodenyitandshyawayfromit….Itistimetoopenthisuptothepublic.”––AstronautEdgarMitchell,Apollo14

Pictured:PaolaHarrisandEdgarMitchell,2004.Paola:ItisapleasuretoseeyouhereinRoswell.Ithinkthatyousaidthatyougrewupinthisarea.Ithinkyousaidthatyoulivedherewhenyouwereabout3to13yearsold?Mitchell:IlivedherefromwhenIwasfiveuntilIwentofftoCollege.Wehadafamilybusinessinthevalley.ItwasbetweenRoswellandArtesia.Paola:FriendstalkedyouintocomingtospeakhereattheUFOmuseum?Mitchell:Iresistedforalongtime.Paola:DidyouresistbecauseitwasconnectedwiththeUFOphenomenon?Mitchell:No.IthinkI’vereachedthepointthatI’mconvincedenoughoftherealityoftheETpresenceandI’mnotgoingtodenyitandshyawayfromit.Idon’tgetintoitindetail.Thatisnotmyarea.Paola:Iknowthatyourareaismorethemetaphysical.Mitchell:Well,Ithinkitisaninteractionthere.Particularlysincetheredoesseemtobeanon-localcommunicationormentaltieherewithsomeofthesefunctions,whethertheyarerealornot,Idon’tknow.Paola:CanIaskyou,whyisittheypickyouofalltheastronauts?Inthemediayouhavebeenselectedasonewhorepresentstheastronauts’testimonyastothisUFOreality,althoughyoumentionedyouneversawoneinspace.GordonCoopertalksalotmoreaboutitinhisbookLeapofFaith.Sowhyyou?Isitbytalkingaboutthemetaphysicaltheyhaveattachedyoutotheweirdnessfactor?Mitchell:Ithinkitwasthepersonalconnection,sinceIhadpersonalcontactsinthisarea.Ithinkitismycredibilityasascientist.Iamvery,veryincredulousaboutwhatIsee.Ican’tthrowcaveatsin.Idon’tmakeblanketstatements.Althoughmyexperienceisnotfirsthandexperience,Ihavebecomeaspokesmanformycolleagueswhodidhavefirsthandexperience.IamveryclearaboutallofthesethingsandIamveryclearaboutwhereourlackofknowledgeis.Whatisthefrontier?Whataretheunknowns?Whataretheparametersthatwedon’tunderstand?Ithinkthisgivesmealotofcredibility.Paola:Whatadvicewouldyougivethoseseriousresearchersthatwantananswerand,let’ssay,dreamofharmonywithcosmiccultures?Whatadvicewouldyougivethem?Mitchell:Wearedealingwithadifficultprocesshere.Themainproblemisthatwe,asanEarthcivilization,havenotcometounderstandourselves;seeourselvesinacosmicsenseatall.Wearestill

veryprovincial.Wefightoverreligion.Inmyopinion,fundamentalistChristiansarejustasbadasfundamentalistIslamand,attheverycore,neitherreligionislikethat.Intheinnercoreofbothofthem,thesereligionstalkaboutqualitieslikeLoveandBrotherhood.Paola:Youaresayingthattherearemoresimilaritiesthandifferences?Mitchell:Ofcourse.It’stheculturaldifferences.Itisnotanintrinsicdifference.ItislikeIsaidinmytalklastnight:“thetranscendentexperienceiscommontoeverycultureintheworld”andthetranscendentexperienceisBrotherlyLove,Nature,Harmony,theUnity,andcultures,intryingtodefineit,trytodefineanexternaldeityasopposedtotheprocess.Paola:Itiseasierthatwaybecauseyoudon’thaveanyresponsibility.Iguessaproverbcouldbe:YoucanblameitonthedevilorGod.Itisalackoftakingresponsibilityforwhoweare.Mitchell:Well,that’sright,andourignorance,anditisbasedontheegoswehave.Itistheunwillingnesstogobeyondego.Transcendencegetsyoubeyondego.Ifyougobeyondego,youseeallofthisinamoredecentperspectiveandyoucanstarttoputallpiecestogether.Wehaven’tdonethatyet.Notasacivilization.Paola:Thatiswhyyouthinkthatcontactisnotlikelyuntilwegetthere.Right?Humanityasaspeciesisnotthere.Youmentionedinyourtalkyesterday,iftheyaskwhereyouarefrom,youdon’tsayfromEarth,yousayfromLA.Mitchell:Yes.That’struePaola:Sodoyouthinktherehastobeaoneworld,kindof,politicalsituation?Mitchell:Ofcoursethatiswhathastohappen.Paola:Peoplehavesomecommonality.Right?Mitchell:Induecourse,that’swhathasgottohappen.Ifwesurvivethatlong.Wemightwipeourselvesoutbeforethat.Idon’tthinkitisaforgoneconclusionthatwearegoingtosurvive.Thatiswherethephilosophic,thewholenotionofdeterminismandwhatthefutureislike,applies.Wearecreatingthefuture.Itisnotdetermined.Ifwegetouracttogetherandsolveourcurrentproblems,wecouldhaveasustainable,abundantfuture.Ifwedon’t,wecouldwipeourselvesout.Weareonthevergeofdoingitwithourcurrentpolitics.Itisregressive;goingbacktheotherway.Paola:Ineedtoaskyouapersonalquestion.Wouldyouhavelikedtohavecontactwithacosmicculture?Mitchell:Yes.Ofcourse!Paola:ThisisveryironicbecauseyouarethechiefastronautspokesmanfortheETpresenceandhaveneverhadcontact.[Thatis]likeme,whohasbeeninthisworkforover30yearsnowandhasneverseenaUFO.Mitchell:Yes.Iwould.Iwouldliketospeakfromfirst-handexperienceinsteadofsecond-handexperience.Paola:Hasitbeenlonelyforyoutohavethisvisionandnotmanypeopletoshareitwith,becausethevisionyouhaveiskindofa“completion”vision;akindofoverallpicturevision,anditistruethatyouarespendingthreequartersofyourtimetryingtoexplainittopeople.Mitchell:IwouldnotputitinthosetermsbecauseIspendninetypercentofmytimetryingtoexplainittomyself!Paola:Butyouknowthatistruthforyou.Youareoutspokenaboutthat.Mitchell:Well,I‘dliketodiscoverTruth;whenIcanlatchontosomethingthatIthinkistrue.Our

knowledgebaseisincompleteandallwedoiskeepaddingtoourknowledgebase.Ithinkitlaughable,frankly,thatthePhysicscommunitycomesupwithatheoryforeverything.Thereisn’tonetheoryforeverything.Thereisnotoneexplanation.Wemayeventuallyhaveseveraltheoriesthatcantiethingstogethernicelybutthereisnotasingletheoryofeverything.Paola:LiketheBigBangbeingthemaintheoryofcreation––andwhataboutSuperStringtheoryandothers…?Mitchell:Well,theBigBanghasgoneawaybutasfarasSuperStringthatissuspiciousforme.ItallstartsoutwiththenotionofBigBang,whichstartsout,ifitweretrue,startsoutwithincrediblyhightemperatures.Sotheythink[we]needtogetthesehightemperaturesforthisbrokensymmetry;allthisbrokensymmetryreunited,andwedonothaveenoughenergyinthewholegalaxytogettothosetemperatures,toprovetheirpoint.Tome,thatisthesingleflawinSuperStringtheory.NowtherearealotofgoodpointsbutifitcouldholdtogetheranybetterthantheBigBangtheoryIdon’tknow.I’mnotaphysicist.Paola:Youarenotgoinginthatdirection.Youaremoreintotheawarenessandwhatyoucanaccomplishasahuman.Isthatright?Mitchell:Yes.AndIalsothinkwearemovingintoadirectionofquantumcosmology,asopposedtostartingwith“bigbang”andtryingtomakequantumphysicsfitintoit.Paola:QuantumCosmology.That’sanewterm.Mitchell:ThatoriginatesfromQuantumprocesses.Thatis,thequantumfluctuationswithinazero-pointfieldcanstarttheprocessthatbuildstheprocess,whichbuildsintomatter,anirreversibleprocess.Wehavesomeevidencethatsuggeststhat.Wedon’thaveaBigBangbutwehavealotoflittlepops!Acontinuoussetoflittlepops!Paola:Thatisagoodmetaphor.Inyourtalk,oneofthethingsyoutalkedaboutisthatthe“intent”createsaction.Theintentcreatesourreality,whichmakesuswhoweare.Ifthatistrue,thenthatmakesuspowerfulonaplanetthathasalwaysbeenunderminedbygreatpowerstryingtoputdownthemasses.So,istheideathat“intent”creates,andwecancreaterealities,andwecanalsocreateevents?Mitchell:Wearecreating.Idon’tcreateyoursandyoudon’tcreateminebutweeachcreate“ours!”Paola:Inthepastwehavealwaysgivenupourpowertothepowerstructures,sowouldyouagreethatitisverylikelyunpopulartotheindividualpeopleandthatitishardforthemtobelievetheyhavepower?Mitchell:Youhavetotieitwithtranscendencebecause,whenyoutranscendthetranscendentstates,yougetpasttheegostructure,andatthatpointyoudon’tneedlaws,youhave“morality!”Youhaveinborn,naturalethicsbecauseitisbuiltonLove.Paola:Thatseemstobethesecretword.Mitchell:Yes.Thatiswhytheancienttraditions,evenChristianity,sayGodisLove.Thereissymmetryhere.Thefundamentalstepwhereyougetintothistranscendentstateisthisfeelingofebullience,loveandcaringandunity.Paola:Andyoudonotneedlaws.Mitchell:Thatisthelaw!Youlearntoliveinthat.Itishardtoliveinthattoowhenyouareinthisworld,thatiswhythegreatmysticsgotothemountainstops;togetawayfromtheworld,sotheydon’thavetodealwithit––butitdoesn’thelptheworldthatmuch.”

Idoadmitthattoaffectchange,youneedtosubmittothe“slingsandarrowsofoutrageousfortune”and,especiallyforawomanresearcher,itbecomesaseverecredibilityissue.Weallgetdiscouragedattimes,buttohaveaconversationlikethiswithDr.Mitchellwasaonce-in-a-lifetimeevent.Themetaphysicalmethodologyhespeaksaboutisthevery“key”tounlockingthephenomena.Thiswisdomisthatofmanycenturiesofstudy.

OutofControlTechnologyFollowingisaletterbyDwightD.Eisenhower,dated12March1951,toEugenioSiragusa.Itis

obviousthatGeneralEisenhowerwasawareofthisfamousItaliancontacteewhosecontactwaswithahuman-likegroupofalienswholandedatthefootofMountAetnainSicily.Thelettersays,“Yourconcernforthefutureofyourchildrenisverynaturalandunderstandable.”TheconcernreferstothemessagesgiventoEugenioSiragusa,rightupuntilhisdeathin2006,abouttheterriblefateofthisplanet.EugeniosaidhehadoverfourlettersfromEisenhoweronpersonalstationaryand,ifweconsiderthatEisenhowercouldhavehadameetingwithaliensatHollomanAirForceBaseduringthefifties,thiscorrespondencebecomesverysignificant.WhattheextraterrestrialstoldEugenioSiragusawasthis:July30,1963“Thedeadlyeffectsofthenuclearexperimentswillchangeeverything.Thefaceofyourplanetwillchangeifresponsiblemenwillnotsignatreaty.You,terrestrialscientists,cannotvaguelyimaginewhatyouhavealreadybuiltandwhatyoustillintendtobuildwithyourfoolishcrazeoftheatomicscience.Theactualdisastersthathavekilledaconsiderablenumberofinnocentvictimsalreadyarenothingincomparisontothosethatfatallyawaityouinaverynexttimetocome.Completecontinentscouldbeshatteredfromtheterribleandenormousforceofthecosmic-burningelements.Wearestillpredictingthisandnobody,andnotevenwe,coulddoanythingtochangethetragicsituationinwhichyouareinvolved.Theonlythingthatyoucoulddotoremedythisistostopeachtypeofexperimentimmediatelythatisnuclear.Wecouldonlywatch,wecannotdoanything.”

Thisiscertainlyanexopoliticalandecologicalconcernforourverysurvival,andweweregivenawarningthroughthecontacteesofthefiftieslikeSiragusaandAdamski.We,inthefield,aresoverygratefulforthewordsandresearchofComeCarpentierwho,althoughnotaUFOresearcher,hasdoneanexcellentjobofseriouslyaddressingtheissuesbeforetheworld.Mr.ComeCarpentieriscurrentlytheGovernoroftheEditorialBoardoftheWorldAffairsJournal.HisPaper:ACaseforExopolitics:UsheringinaCosmicDialoguepresentedinRhodes,Greecein2006,gaveusacertainvisibilityaswellascredibility.Hedoessomeamazingresearchtocorrectlyidentifytheculpritsinthecover-upandhementionstheKennedyattempttocooperateinSpacewiththeRussiansaspartofhislecturewhenhestates:

“In1955,ProjectSilverBugwasdevelopedatWrightPattersonAFB.Itsetouttobuildasaucerpoweredbygas-turbineengines.ItwasonlyoneoftheearliestofmanyendeavorstoreplicateUFOtechnologies,manycontractedouttoleadingmilitary-industrialcompanies(suchasLockheed,Northrop,McDonnellDouglas,GeneralDynamics,GE,Westinghouse,Boeingetc.)TheAmericanengineerT.T.Brownmadeaseminalcontributionintheearly1950s.HewasabletobuildaprototypeFlyingSaucerfortheUSAirForceandfoundedNICAP(NationalInvestigativeCommitteeforAerialPhenomena)in1956,oneofthemajororganizationsdedicatedtoUFOresearch.HislifeworkisdocumentedinthebiographywrittenbyP.SchatzkinDefyingGravity:TheParallelUniverseofT.TownsendBrown(2006).

InNovember1963,PresidentJ.F.KennedydictatedamemoaddressedtotheCIA,directingittocooperatewiththeUSSRto“explaininacrediblewaytheimpactofknownsandunknowns”inairandspaceexploration.HewantedcooperationbetweenNASAandtheSovietScienceAcademy,aprospecttowhichmanyofthe“conservative”militaryandindustrialleadersoftheUSAwerebitterlyopposedsincetheyregardedUFO-related“black”researchprojectsasessentialinthearmsraceinordertogainsuperiorityinthecoldwar.

ThereisnowalargenumberofdeclassifiedorleakedbutverifiedofficialreportsfromvariousairForces,navies,armiesandinternationalmilitarystructuressuchNATO,NORADetal.aboutencounters,incidents,chases,dogfightsandconfrontationswith“alien”spacecraftexhibitingpropertiesfarsuperiortoanyavailableintheconventionalarsenalsofearthlypowers.Forexample,therearedetailedrecordsaboutthe“Malmstrommissileshutdown”(oneamongseveralcases)whenin1967,visitingUFOsdeactivatedanumberofMontana-basedICBMmissilesintheirundergroundsilos.CNNrecordedthatPresidentClinton’sformerchiefofstaffJohnPodestaaskedthePentagonatanewsconferenceinOctoberof2002tolifttheUFOcover-up.[http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/10/22/ufo.records/index.html]

InternationalofficialpolicyontheUFOExtra-terrestrialBiologicalEntity(UFO/EBE)issueappearstohavebeencloselycoordinatedbetweentheleadingmilitarypowers,throughNATO(reportedlywithinP.I.40,54/12)andbilateralcontactsbetweentheUSAandtheUSSRtopreventuncontrolleddisclosuresandleaks.Asnotedearlier,occasionalleakshavehoweverbeenpermitted(perhapsbecausetheywerenotalwaysavoidable)andevenencouraged,withplausibledeniabilitybuiltin.

Thattermplausibledeniabilitywillappearagainbelowbecausemanywhistle-blowersneedtousethismethodtodisclosethetruth“betweenthelines!”WeseethisinthetestimonyofEdRothchildFouchewhenhespeaksoftheadvancedtriangularcraft,theTR3B,andthenewAuroraanti-gravitycraft,thecraftthathesaysiscreatedinArea51andcouldeasilybemistakenforalienvehicles.InhisnovelwrittenwithBradSteigercalledAlienRapture,hetellsmuchtruthin-betweenthelines,butleavesanescapewithplausibledeniability.

HisinterviewinmyfirstbookConnectingtheDots:MakingSenseoftheUFOPhenomena,givesthereaderdetailsofhissubcontractingworkatArea51S-4onback-engineeredvehiclesandthedangersinvolvedwithdisclosingthisfact.ThiswasrepeatedtomebythetestimonyofKSC“groundcrew

astronaut,”ClarkMcClelland,whohadknowledgeofFastwalkersandOniondrivesandsawthosetwoback-engineeredUFOsinBelizewhilehewasonvacationthere.Dowehave“warpdrive?”PhysicistJackSarfattiseemstothinksowhenhetalkstohisfellowscientistswhoaretryingtodevelopazerogravitycraft.Heistryingtovisualize“aforcefieldwithitsgentlepush…isanidealagentforimpartingaccelerationtotheoccupantsofaspacevehicleundergoinghighacceleration.Withthepushingdirectlyagainsteachinternalcellofthebody,noneofthestructureorinternalorgansofthebodytendtogetcrushedorevenstrained.Infact,itiseasytoprovethatifauniformfieldgradientprovidesthetotalaccelerationtoapassenger,thepassengerundergoesnostresswhatsoever.Hewouldn’tfeelathing,eventhathewasaccelerating.

ThisdescriptionisironicallywhatAirForceweatherobserverCharlesHallwitnessedwhilehewasontheIndianSpringsGunneryrangeandtheTallWhitealienscoutcrafttooktheAmericanGeneralsforarideinouterspace.Hesaystheyfeltnothingastheytraveledatthesamespeedasiftheywereonewiththecraft.

PeoplearealwaystakenabackwhenIshowthemthefootageofwhatIbelievetobeaback-engineeredcraftnearPonteDiGiuliointheVenetoRegionnearVeniceinNorthernItaly.Thephotographeractuallywaitsforthecrafttocomeoutoftheforest,andthenitdoestwo360-degreeturnsandthenitjetsawayandvanishesatlightspeed.ThatmeanssomeonecurrentlymustpossessthistechnologybecauseIdonotthinkthealiensmadeanappointmentwiththephotographerinthisdryriverbedinNorthernItalywherethearmygenerallydoesmaneuvers.

IinterviewedJackSarfattiinRomein2004and,althoughhemaynotbelievetotallyinback-engineeredcraft,hehassomefascinatingideasintheoreticalphysics.Heiswillingtothinkoutsidetheboxandadmittopossibilitiesthatarenottoopopularforconventionalscientists.

Hehasstatedthesepossibleprinciples:1.Einstein’sgravityemergesfromthecoherentphaseoftheinflationvacuumfield.Theresidualzeropointenergydensityformsboththedarkenergyandthedarkmatteratdifferentscalesofthepocketuniversewearestuckinsideof.2.Sincenegativezeropointpressurecreatesauniversallyrepulsiveanti-gravityfieldthatisthekeytothemetricengineeringoftheadvancedextra-terrestrialsintheirflyingsaucers3.ProbablyAnyonphysicsishowtophase-lockintothevacuumtoachievethesuperiorflightcapabilityweseeintheflyingsaucers.4.TheremaybeatheoryofhowourinnerconsciousnessworksandthatthisprinciplecouldbeappliedtoflightbecauseColonelPhilipCorsosaysthat;thealienbeings(EBE)andcraftwereone.

ItisfascinatingthatEarthscientistshavepossiblyprogressedthisfarbutwhatisnotfascinatingisthatitispartofthe“DeepBlackBudget”projectsthataredesignedforsuperiorityinwarinsteadofsavingtheplanetfromanyimpendingecologicalcatastrophe.Aliensdonotusepetroleum-basedfuel.Humanityatlargecouldbenefitfromthesetechnologies.

Weareallgoingtowardsanewfrontieranditissodifficulttobreaknewgroundbecauseitseems“insecure.”ButtheimplicationsofExopoliticsleadsustodevelopnotonlyaphilosophyofcontactbutalsosomeprotocolswhichinthiscasemayneedtobesetdownonthegrassrootslevel.Iamsurewithallthe“formal”aliencontactsinthepast,thereweregovernmentalprotocolsalreadycreated.

Inconclusion,asComeCarpentiersowiselysays,theDialogueBetweenCivilizationswillhavetoinclude,soonerorlater,thosebeingsandcultureswhoarenonhuman,butareinthehomosapienscategoryandwhoclearlyhaveapresenceonourplanetandastakeinthefutureofterrestrialandhumanlife.

ProtocolThreeVisitorsFromtheFutureandDimensionalGates

Weneedtounderstandthatsomealiencontactsimplymayberacesfromthefuturethattravelinand

outofa“timecontinuum.”-Whatiftheyareconnectedwith“us”fromthefutureandhavecometowarnusofsomeimpending

disaster?-Whatiftheyhavefoundthesecrettodimensionaltravel?-Whatifweareallrelatedtothe“starpeople”onsomelevel?-Whatifweneedtorewriteourhumanhistory?

ExtraterrestrialEntitiesandTechnologyDiscoveryandDisposalManualSOM1-01,www.majesticdocuments.comWhyisthisinformationnotavailabletoallWorldHealthOrganizations?

ItisnosecretthatthelateColonelPhilipCorsothoughtthatthebeingsfromRoswellwereagiftfrom

thefuture.Hetoldmethatthebodiescontained“surveillancemicrochips”thatreportedbacktothecreatorsandheaddedthatPentagonwasquestioningwhothesecreatorswere?Weretheypeoplelikeus?Inaninterview,hesadlysaysthatthealienbodywasthegreatestgift,themostamazingdiscoverybecauseitcouldtravelinspaceandsustainitselfwithelectro-magnatism.HereDanBurisch,amicrobiologistwhosupposedlyworkedatS-4ontheArea51basegivesusarealitythatcouldreadasasciencefictiontale.AnyonewhohaspersonallyinterviewedDan“face-to-face”canseeheissincereinrecountingrealepisodes.

Ipersonallybelieveanyinteractionbetweenaliencivilizationswithdirectwitnesstestimonyisworthresearching.However,myruleofthumbhasalwaysbeentomeetthesepeople“face-to-face,”questionthemextensivelyandthenwatchtheirexpressions.Somepeoplearere-livingtheirexperiencesandare

notmakingthemup.Inanarticletitled“Psychology101:Talkingface-to-faceisbestwaytospotahabitualliarsay

psychologists,”1thisveryprinciplewasemphasized.“Researchhasshownthatpeoplearereluctanttoliewhenspeakingtosomeoneelse,perhapsbecausetheyfearedtheywouldbemoreeasilycaughtout,eitherbytheirbodylanguageortoneofvoice.”

IfoundthistobetrueofCharlesHallandDanBurisch.Unfortunately,theDanBurischcaseisfilledwithcontroversy;muchthesamecontroversythatIencounteredaroundtheMichaelWolfKruvantecaseonwhichIworkedfortwoyears,withaseriesofseventyaudiotapesandfourlong,extendedvisits.

TheironyisthatsomemainBurischresearchersvouchforDanbecausetheyspenttimewithhiminpersonandwereabletoquestionhimbutdenythatMichaelWolfdeservesthesameconsiderationandhavebeenoutspokendebunkersofhistestimony.Wecanseethevalueofrealfieldresearchhere,althoughitrequiresmoneyandconsiderabletime.

BoththesemenworkedatArea51,inparticularS-4facility.Bothtalkofstargates;bothwereinterfacesforalienguests;bothwerescientists;andbothweregivenpermissiontorevealtheirinvolvement,althoughsomeroomwasleftforplausibledeniabilityofwhichIspokepreviously.Thatishowitseemstowork.Writeabookofsciencefiction,putinfact,asMichaelWolfdid,soonecandenyyourdirectinvolvementandhidethetruthin-betweenthelines.

TheDanBurischcasewasfirstresearchedbyWilliamHamiltonandthenbyLindaMoultonHowe,twoexpertresearchers.Itwasmycuriosityandmydriveto“connectthedots”thatledmetoLasVegastwicetointerviewDan.Itwasapleasureonbothoccasionsasheisaveryhonest,openandclearinhisanswers.HejustwantstotelltheworldandhedoesitonhisDVDwiththesametitleproducedbyhisfriendandMJ-12-sanctionedadvisor,andnowhiswife,MarciaMcDowell.SheisveryimportanttothestorysoIaskedherforpersonalinformation.ThisisthejobdescriptionthatMarciaMcDowellprovidedtome.“IamprettymuchalifelongfriendofDanandhisfamily,whowasformallyswornintoMajesticas

anoperativeattheendof2003andimmediatelyassigned,perDan’srequest,toserveasDan’soperationsdirector.Ibecameresponsibleforallformalandinformaloperations,research,communicationsandpublicationsforDanandtheteam.Now,IampermanentlydispatchedtoDanandthefamily,tocarryonmyroleinourcontinuingresearch.Thisiscustomary,inMajestic,forsomebodytobeassignedtoanindividualwhohasheldaJ-number.DansatasJ-9forashorttenure,andso,ifevercalledtotestifybeforetheU.S.Congress,hecoulddosoinacapacityasaformermemberoftheMajestic.Forthatreason,IampermanentlyworkinginavarietyofcapacitiesforDanandhisfamily.”

IthankWilliamHamiltonwhowrotethebookaboutthiscase,calledProjectAquarius,forthefirstopportunityaswedrovealldayfromLaughlin,in2006,tothisscheduledmeetingtogether.BothDanandMarciahavebeenhonest,cordialandfullofinformationthatwillstimulatethinkingonthepartofthereader.

J-RodandLooking-GlassTechnology:InterviewwithDr.DanBurischInterviewwithDr.DanBurisch,Micro-biologistLasVegas,Nevada2006“Theso-calledUfologyCommunityhasbeencreatingasmuchmessaroundmeastheycan,forafewyearsnow.Itwon’tstopandIamnottryingtoeitherconvincethemorcourtthem.”––Dr.DanBurischPaola:Dan,tellus,whatisyourmission?Whatareyourprimaryconcerns?Burisch:CurrentlyIhavethreemainissuesonmyplate:Thedisclosure-debriefinggoingtothepublic,whichhasbeenorderedbytheMajestic-12;Amajorbiomedicalconcern,and;ContinuingmyresearchintoProjectLotus.Paola:EverytimeIhearS-4mentionedonthesecret(notsosecret)Area51base,IthinkofMichaelWolfandBobLazarwhoclaimedtheyworkedthere.Burisch:FromthestandpointofMr.Lazar’sdescriptionoftheS-4GalileoBay(4-1),hewasaccuratebutwithmuchlessdetailthanwillbepresentedbyusintheup-comingDVD.Ihaveseenandinteractedonallfourmainfloors,haveseenallfoursub-flooraccesslevelsandhaveinteractedinthreeofthosefour.Shouldhe(Mr.Lazar,oranyoneelseforthatmatter)haveclaimedtohaveremovedanyE115(Element115)fromS-4,thatwouldbeaninaccuratestatementasNOTHINGevergetsoutofS-4,exceptuspoorSAPworkers…andsometimesnoteventhose!Paola:PleasediscussyourworkwiththecreaturewecallJ-Rod.Whywashenamedthat?Washereallyatimetraveler––andfromwhere?Burisch:Yes,Chi’el’ah(theJ-Rod)wasfromthefuture:roughly52,000yearsfrompresent.Theyusetime-traveltechnologytoskipandhopinandoutoftimeperiods,fromabaseintheAquariusConstellation:Gliese876C.ThatistheoriginofthenameforProjectAquarius.ThatiswhytheyidentifythemselvesasJ-Rods,asGliese876Cisclosestto15lightyearsfromhere.Thestagingbasecutsdownontimetravelacquisition.TheJ-RodidentifiedhimselftotheSigmaLinguisticsTeamnumerically,ashepointedtoan“inertialbar”drawingandaJfromthealphabet.ThenameJ-Rodisthereforedescriptiveandsumsto15,asabarintheMayannumbersystemequalsfiveandthetenthplaceinthealphabetisaJ.TheconceptofTimeTravelisadifficultone.Themoralofits(timetravel’s)storyisthateverytripfurthersaparadox.Forinstance,Chi’el’ahvisitedearthin1973and,inasubsequentvisit,crashednearKingman,Arizona,in1953!

Paola:ItisimportanttoaddthatRyanWood’sbook,MajicEyesOnly,talksoftheKingmanArizonacrashwithsomemissingaliens.WhatdidJ-Rodlooklike?Burisch:AboveisadrawingIdidoftheJ-Rodafewyearsago.WeareworkingonthefirstDVDasquicklyashumanlypossible.Hehadlarge,expressiveeyesandhadwhatseemedlikeoiloozingfromhispores.AttachthelikenessIjustsenttoacrouched,two-legged,large-footedbeing,withrough,oil-exudingskin,fourlongtoesandfourlongfingersoneach…andyouwillhaveaprettygoodlikeness.Hewasveryillanditwasmyjobtodotissueextractions,intheCleanSpherearea,withaneedlethathadasuctiondevice.ThiswasextremelypainfulfortheJ-RodandIseemedtofeelhispainalsowhileperformingthisextraction.Paola:Iheardhimcalledthe“PuppetMaster”somewhereinmyresearch.Isthistrue?Burisch:IneverpersonallyheardtheJ-RodatS4calledthePuppetMaster,whileIwasinchargeoftheworkinggroup.Imayhaveheardsomethinglikeitinaconversation,earlyinmyworkwithMajestic,butamnotreallysure.Theyusuallyreferredtohimas“Stump.”Ihaveheardhimcalled“Brightly”and,Ibelieve,“BrightEyes.”InevermettheJ-RodatLosAlamos;thatwouldbeBillUhouse’saccount.ThreeJ-RodswereintheKingmanCrash:oneapresent-plus-52,000-yearsJ-Rod,namedChi’el’ah,whowastakentoS4(he’stheoneImet);oneapresent-plus-45,000-yearsJ-Rod,whowastakentoLosAlamos(presumedtobetheonemetbyBillUhouse),andoneapresent-plus-45,000-yearsJ-Rod,deadatthecrashscene.(BillUhousedrawingbelow.)

Paola:Wereyoutoldnottocommunicatewithhim?Burisch:Yes!Butthatwasimpossibleforthey,fromtheoutside,couldnotcontrolwhatorhowhewastransmittingtome.TheJ-Rodcommunicatedbyelectromagneticentrainment;hewould“thump”thetarget(inthiscaseme)withprobesignalsuntilhecouldbringhisfrequenciesintoamatchwithmyown.Hediditinmuchthesamewayasdolphinsusetheiracousticmelons.Ashewouldprobe,itwouldfeellikeIcouldfallintohiseyes.Thisisthewaythepresent-plus-45,000-yearsJ-Rodssedateindividualsaswell,duringabductions.Theyentraintoendorphinresponseandtheauditorycenter,sowhiletheyarerelaxingapersonbio-chemically,theyaretellingthem(intheirowninternalsoundingvoice)torelax.DuringthetimewithChi’el’ah(theJ-Rod)hecouldentrainsothatIwouldfeelasthoughIwasactuallyinthesceneandparticipatingintheemotionshewasfeeling,whilehewasshowingme(forexample)whereheworkedinGliese.Whenhewouldjustdirectly“speak”withme,Icouldhearmyownself-talk(privatethought)voice,yetitwasclearlyofadifferingcadenceandwithdifferentlanguageusage,thanmyown.Heshowedmehishomeplanetandtalkedofhisfamilyandthefactthathehadasonandmissedhim.ThereasonwhyIpushedwasanactoffriendship;hehadarighttogohome,andhismandatedstaytimehadwellpassed.Heaskedmetogohome.Iagreed.Hesaidacoupleotherthingsbut…well…hewantedtogohometoseehissonbeforethecrossingiscompleted.Wearenotsurehowthetimere-stackingisgoingtoplayout…andhejustwantedtoseehisboy.Paola:Thismustbeverydifficulttounderstand,especiallysinceitisatimetravelerandtheycouldevenbe“us”fromtheFuture!Whatdoesthissayaboutourreality?Burisch:Simplyput,aseachincreaseintheparadoxoccurs,morelayersareaddedintoourreality.When

wereachthepoint,aftertransition,abovetheplaneofourhomegalaxy,the“cards”aretobere-stackedandtheparadoxalleviated.The45,000-years-from-presentJ-Rodswantacatastrophetobevisiteduponusas,shouldit,thenourspecieswillbesplitalonglogicalJ-Rodsandspiritual(Orions)lines.Bythetime52,000yearsfromthepresentarrives,the45,000-years-from-presentJ-Rodswillhavebeensubsumedintheirsocietywiththeirideologiesbecomingnonexistent.So,tothem,acatastrophewilljustifytheirexistence.Asitstands,shouldnocatastropheoccur(thepreventionofwhichiswhatweareworkingtoward),theJ-Rodsmaybe“re-stacked”(ifyouwill)andpossiblywinkoutofexistence,becomeanon-human-lineagespecies,orremainastheyarewiththeadventofanewparadox.Paola:WhereisJ-Rodnow?Whathappenedtohim?Burisch:ThisiswheretheStargatescomein.Somearenaturalplacesonthisearthandsomeareartificiallycreated.WecreatedanartificialoneintheEgyptiandesert,withtheknowledgeoftheEgyptiangovernment.J-RodwasbroughtthereinastrollerandwhenIheardhispleatoreturntohisfamilyIbecameinstinctiveandpushedhimthroughtheStargate.IpushedtheJ-Rodandreallydidn’tseehimgoin.ItjusthappenedasIpushedforward.AfterthatIwas“justelsewhere.”Ihaven’tacluewhere,butIwasfound.Paola:CanyouelaborateontheseStargateandtheLooking-Glasstechnologies?ColonelCorsowoulddescribeelectromagneticpillarstome,intheNewMexicodesert,andhesaidthatwhentheywereactivated,theywouldcreateStargatesandthingsfromothertimedimensionscouldcomethrough.Burisch:First,mayIstartbyindicatingthatIamnomechanicalengineer,physicist,ordraftsman.Theattachimagehasbeencomposedfrommemoryandispiecedtogetherusingexistingimagery.

TheimageaboveleftdepictswhattheLooking-Glassappearedlikeduringitsslowrotationphase,andontherightduringitsfulloperationphase.TheobjectsabovetheLooking-Glasswerecameras,whichappearedtobeovaldisksforintenselightcollectionandrecording,andwhatlookedlikeageodesicdomeabovethedevice,foraudiorecording.TheLooking-Glasswascomposedfromoriginaldiagramsforstargatedevices,basedfromancientcylinderseals.

Ishouldinnowaybetterdescribethemodified(fromtheLooking-Glassdescription)Stargatedevicesthemselves,butsafetosaytheywerebasedonthemoregeneralfeaturesusedintheLooking-Glass.Itistruethatpillarsofthegeneraldescription,byCorso,areusedto“tunein”ERBs,andthattuningisdirectedtowardastargatedeviceslightlytiltedbetweenthem.Duringthepresenttime(2003)returnofChi’el’ah(thepresent-plus-52,000-yearsJ-Rod)toReticulumca.present-plus-52,000-years,Ididseethreepillars,withgoldenspheresontopofthem,andanapparentgeodesic-likecagearoundthespheres.Ishouldnotdescribeaccessoryequipment.Twopillarsweretothefront,withonepillarbehindthetiltedstargatedevice.Icouldonlyseethethirdpillarwhenstandingofftoonesideofthedevice’sarea,astheareabetweenthetwopillars,infrontofthetitledStargatedevice,wasfilledwithamurkygreyoval,whichconstitutedtheeventarea.

BoththeworkingLooking-GlassandtheactivatedStargateshad,Inoticed;averypungentozoneodor.IntheLooking-Glassroom,onceitwasactivated,itfeltandappearedlikewewereintoaroundor

ovalroom,eventhoughtheroomwasgenerallyrectangular.Itwasasthough,eventhoughwecouldsee

thecornersoftheroom,thespaceintheroomwasbeingbentaroundthecentral,activated,bright-pearl-whiteglowingcore.AttimesitpulsedandIsawablueshimmeraroundit.

TheactivatedStargate/portalinEgyptlookeddensegrey.Iwasslightlylight-headednearit,andeventhoughIcouldseetheovalperipheryofthe“gate,”therewasapalpablesensationofathick“bubble”ofelectrostaticenergyaroundit.Myclotheswereclingingwithstaticenergy.AfterencounteringitwithChi’el’ah,thenfindingmyselfsittingnearbyonaslab,Ifounditverydifficulttowalkandcoordinate.Thissensationlastedfordays.

WhenIturnedcornersinhallways,Iwouldsometimesover-compensateandstrikethecornerofthehallway.AtothertimesIwouldunder-compensate,makingtoowideofaturn,thenfeeldizzy.Paola:Inmyinterviewswithcontactees,theysaythatbeingssometimesseemtomanifestfromaStargatewithashimmeringbluelight.Burisch:AbouttheLooking-Glasstechnologyimage:Theblueshimmeringisaround,notinsideit.Yes,Ibelievethebluewascreatedbyozonegasasabyproductoftheinteractionbetweentheelectricityandtheair.Ifonelooksinthecenter,itisa,cloudywhite.Yes,therewassomeshimmeringbeforethelightbecomesintenseinsidetheStargatedevice,butnotwhenIsawit.Itwasalreadyengagedandflatgray,noshimmering.Whensomethingcomesoutofit,itjustmanifestsorisitoutoffocus;thenitjustwalksthrough.

I’veneverseenanythingcomethrough,asidefromanearlyexperimentwhereapersondied(atS4),1994-ish.

Pictured:PaolaHarrisinterviewsDanBurischinLasVegas,2006.Paola:Whatagreementsdothesealienshavewithhumanity?Iheardthatwesplitoffintotwogroupsaftersomecatastrophe:theJ-RodsandtheOrions,whoarenotthatpositive.Burisch:WhatIknowastrue:Therearetwosetsoftreaties,T-9s,whichinvolvethe45/52J-Rods,the52OrionsandusandtheOF-9s,whichinvolvethe52J-Rods,52Orions,andus.Normally,whenImentionaJ-Rod,IamthinkingoftheonewithwhichIinteracted,apresent-plus-52,000-years.(ReadersNote:thesewouldbethoseJ-Rodsfrom52,000yearsinourfuture.)Thepresent-plus-52,000-yearsdonotusuallyaudiblyspeaklanguage,butcanmake‘vestigial’languagesounds.TheoneIwaswithhadlosttheabilityaltogether.Thepresent-plus-45,000-yearsJ-Rodscanaudiblyspeaklanguage,toaverylimiteddegree.Paola:Dan,whatdoyouwanttohappenwithyourstory?IknowyouprefertoworkinthefieldofMicrobiologyandyoujustwanttofinishthis,yourmandatetodisclosethetruth!

Burisch:Formypersonalsake(andmypersonalpeace),beforeadjournment,theformerMJ-1orderedthatmypublicdiscussionsofmyhistorymustnotextendpastapproximatelySeptember2007.Heorderedthistoprotectme,andtomakesureIwillbeavailabletoattendthe60thAnniversarypartyoftheestablishmentofMajestic,tobeheld“somewhere”ontheEastCoast,September2007!That’swhathetoldme!But,Iwilltelleveryonestraightrightnow––itwon’tgothatlong!Ihaveabsolutelynointerestinspeakingpublicly(whetherbyradioorinperson)anyway.IhavenointerestinpopularityorplayinganyPRgames!I’llleavethattootherpeoplewhoareinterestedinsuchmatters.IamfulfillingwhatImustdo,thenmovingonwithmylife,research,andpublications.IunderstandthatcertainthingsarebeingprogrammedinorderformetofulfillmyLevel1orders,andtheimportantspreadofthisinformation,sowhileIamhonoredbythem,Iampersonally“puttingupwith”interviews.Ifindnopleasureinpublicity––none.Iam,bynature,aresearchingrecluse.Thatwon’tchange.

BillHamiltonisamongtheverybestofinvestigatorsandhasabookonmystorycalledProjectAquarius,sothatisout.Paola:Ourownresearcherstendtocrucify“whistleblower”testimonyIknowyouhavebeenthreatened,sohowpublicdoyouwishtobe?Burisch:Ihavejustagreed,withMarcia,onatotallyseparateissue,togivecondenseddisksaway,thebulkamountfromabout100hoursofmydebriefing,FREEtomediaandinvestigators.MyintentionisIjustwantthemessageout.–DannyBCatselasBurisch,Sc.D.“EiecitqueAdametconlocavitanteparadisumvoluptatischerubinetflammeumgladiumatqueversatilemadcustodiendamviamlignivitae.”Gen.3:24

TheRendleshamForestIncidentSgt.JimPennistonrecalledthathewasgivenabinarycodethatcouldbeinterpretedasmessagefromtimetravelers.

Pictured:JimPennistonandPaolaHarris,UFOCongress,2011.

TheRendleshamForestIncident,alsoknownas‘Britain’sRoswell’,isundoubtedlyoneofthebest-documentedandmostsignificantmilitaryencounterswithaUFO.Itisalsoacasethatinvolvedverycrediblewitnesses,trained(USAF)UnitedStatesAirForceobservers.Theincidentspannedfourdaysin1980.RendleshamForestisalargepineforest,eastofIpswich,inSuffolk,England.NearbyarethetwinNATOairbases,RAFBentwatersandRAFWoodbridge;atthetimebothbaseswerebeingleasedtotheUnitedStatesAirForce.SeveralUFOincidents,includingmultiple-witnesssightingsbymilitarypersonnel,groundtraces,andradioactiveanomalieswerereportedfromRendleshamforest.AccordingtoUSAFsecuritypatrolmenonduty,“theobjectwasdescribedasbeingmetallicinappearanceandtriangularinshape,approx.2-3metersacrossthebase...itilluminatedtheentireforestwithawhitelight,andhadapulsingredlightontopandabank(s)ofbluelightsunderneath.”InNovember,2002,theBritishMinistryofDefensereleasedthe“RendleshamFile”ofdocumentsrelatedtoandconfirmingtheRendleshamForestincident.

TheRendleshamForestIncident.comwebsiteisdedicatedtopreservinginformationregardingthishistoricincidentandencounter,withaCraftofUnknownOrigin.Themissionistoeducatefuture

generationsworldwideoftheextremeimportanceof“TheRendleshamForestIncident.”

ProtocolFourVirusesandBiologicalContamination

Weneedtoprotectourselvesfromvirusesandbiologicalcontaminationonbothsides.Iscontactwith

non-humanlifeformsanexo-biologicalproblem?Shoulditbedealtwithbyaninternationalcommission?-Whyisthisinformationonlyavailabletothemilitarywhenciviliansarebeingimpacted?-WhyisthisnotavailabletotheWorldHealthOrganization?

IthasalwaysbeeninterestingtomehowExo-biologyisacceptedasanewdisciplineinoursociety

especiallysince,itwaspromotedbythegreatastronomerCarlSagan.Recognizedinmanyuniversitieswithmanygraduateandpost-graduatecourses,ithasenteredourmainstreamacademia.

However,itseemsthatExopoliticsishavingamoredifficulttimeinemergingfromthe“fringe”disciplineofUfology.AsIseeit,theyarebothverymuchconnectedbecausewearedealingwithstrangeforeignbeingscomposedofadifferentbiologyfromthehumanspecies,andwhomaybecarryingstrangenewstrainsofviruses.Conversely,wearealsoadangertothemifourbiologiesdonotmatchandthesethingsshouldbedealtwithbeforeofficialcontactbegins.ItwasnotdealtwithwellinBrazil.TheVarginhacaseformerepresentsoneofthemostblatantexamplesofourignoranceonthisplanetandourlackofforesightandreadinessforeventualcontact.ThiscaseisoneofthemostimportantcaseseverresearchedandA.J.Gevaerd’scontributionisinvaluabletothearchiveofgreatUFOcrashcasesandlackingprotocolsestablishedtohandlethem.TheVarginhaCase:BriefingbyA.J.Gevaerd,BrazilBribeoffersThemainwitnessesofthecase,LuísaHelenaSilvaandherdaughters,LilianeandValquíria,receivedthevisitoffourmenwhorefusedtoidentifythemselves.Themenwerereadytopayanymoneytomakethewomendenythestory.Ifthegirlshadaccepted,theywouldhavehadinterviewsinaTVchanneloutofthecity.AnotherwitnesswasafriendofthegirlscalledKátiaXavier.Cover-upmaneuversAimingtocoveruptheevidencespresentedbytheufologists,theheaddepartmentoftheSchoolofSergeantsoftheArmedForces(ESA),underorientationofGeneralSérgioPedroCoelhoLima,launchedonMay10th,1996aninternalinvestigationtofindwhoamongitsmemberswerelinkedtotheeventsrevealedaboutthecase.MilitaryconcernsTestimoniesaboutthesubjectgiventoufologistsinchargeofthecasewerepresentedtoColonelRenéJairoFernandes.Theofficialsansweredquestionsonwheretheywereandwhattheyweredoingatcrucialdateandtimewhentheeventtookplace.TheseweresomeofthequestionsleftunansweredbyGeneralLimawhenaskedbyjournalists,whomadehimupsetsayingthathedidnotneedtoproveanythingtoanyone.UFOcrashconfirmedThefirstreferencestotheUFOcrashdatetoJanuary13,1996,butwitnessesrevealedthatthefirstcapturewasmadeinthemorningofJanuary20th,at10:30AM,bymembersoftheFireBrigadeunder

commandofMajorMaciel,SergeantPalhares,CorporalRubens,andPrivatesNivaldoandSantos.AliensshotwitharifleAround2:00p.m.onJanuary20th,membersoftheArmedForcesmadeasearchattheneighborhoodwherethecreaturewasfound.Witnessesheardsoundsofshotsandsawthetroopscarryingbagswithsomethingmovinginsideit.Around8:00p.m.twoofficersfromtheIntelligenceServicecapturedanothercreaturethatwastakentotheHospitalRegionaldeMinas,andtransferredafterwardstoHospitalHumanitas,wherethecreatureeventuallydied.PressureandmanipulationThewitnessesofthecasewereputunderpressuretoremaininsilenceortodismisstheevents.Onthecontrarytowhatmanypeoplemighthavethought,theexposureinthemediaandthefamethegirlsgotchangedtheirlives.ThreateningcallsUfologistsandmaininvestigatorsinchargeofthecasewerethreatenedwithmysteriousphonecalls.Unidentifiedpeoplemadethecalls,whohadtheclearintentiontoscaretheresearchers.MysteriouscharactersTwomenwhenleavingherjobaround2:00a.m.onJanuary18,1997approachedthehousewife,LuísaHelena.Themenwerethesamewhohadshowedupinherhousesomedaysagoofferinghermoney.Themenwantedtoconvinceheratanycosttosaythateverythingwasnothingbutajoke.“Theytriedtosilenceme,”saysLuísa.MoralistagentsMen-in-black?Secretagents?Military?Agentsfrommoralistinstitutions?Asinstitutionsand,asmoralistswecouldfindmanyofthem.Itdependsonthesensethatwecanapplytotheword“moralist.”However,ufologistUbirajaraRodriguespresentsinhisbookOCasoVarginhainformationthatpossiblythosepeoplebelongtosomekindofreligiousinstitution.Operation“PregnantDwarfs”TheseveralcontradictionsinvolvingthesequenceofeventspresentedbyESAcommandersshowthatsomethingstrangeandabnormalreallyhappenedthatJanuarymorninginVarginha(MG).OnMay8,1996,GeneralLimareadapressreleasefromtheinstitutionstatingthat,“noelementormaterialfromtheschoolhadanyinvolvementwiththeallegedeventsofJanuary20th,whichdismissesanyothertestimonies.”

Sometimeafterthat,aseriouscontradictioncametosurface.MajorCalza,whotogetherwithGeneralLimatookpartinthereleaseoftheofficialversion,appearedinaBBCvideosayingthat“thatdaytherewasamalformedandmentallydisableddwarfwhowasinjuredbyahailstormand,therefore,wanderedbyVarginhascaringresidentstogetherwithhiswife,anotherdwarf,who,besidesthat,waspregnantandreadytobreed.”However,duringthesequenceoftheinterview,MajorCalzaslippedbysaying,“Thatwaswhenwe[TheArmy]caughtthatcreature.”InjuredcreatureInthebeginningof2003,theUSufologistandorthopedicsurgeonRogerLeirwasinVarginhawiththeobjectiveofgatheringinformationaboutthecase.Thattime,hetalkedtoanotherphysicianwhorefusedtogivehisnameandassistedthecapturedcreatureatHospitalRegional.AccordingtotheBraziliandoctor,

thebodyhaddifferentkindsofinjuries,buthewassurethatthecreaturewasaliveatthemomentitenteredthehospital.

Hestatedthatwhentryingtoexaminetheinjuriesofthebeing,hesuddenlyfelt“asifmyhandswereautomaticallydriven,”andalsobelievedthat“itwasasifthelightsintheroomhadsuddenlychanged,becomingyellowish,”italsoappearedthat“theperceptionincreasedsomehow.”Hecouldnotunderstandwellthephysiologicalconstitutionofthebodyhewasexamining,althoughthatwassomethinganthropomorphic,withahead,atrunk,andlimbs.

Thedoctordidnothearanysoundthatcouldhavebeenmadebythecreature,ormentionedtheexistenceofthe“much”commentedon“thinandbifurcatetongue,”reportedbyothermedicalandmilitarywitnesses.Butheconfirmedseeingthebeing’sslowmovementswhenshowinglifesignals,andrefusedtosaythatthecreatureseemedtobreathe.A.J.Gevaerd:EditorofBrazil’sUFOmagazineInterviewbyPaolaHarrisPaola:NowIwouldliketounderstandthesituationbetter,becauseIthoughtyousaidaFiremancapturedthelastcreature.WasthatChereze?Didhecontractahighfeverandtumor?Gevaerd:ThefirstcreaturewascapturedinthemorningonJanuary20,1996byateamoffiremen.ThesecondonewascapturedbyCherezeat8p.m.thatday.HewasamilitarypolicemanoftheintelligenceserviceoftheMilitaryPolice,calledP2.Paola:Wasthereanofficialdoctor’sautopsy?Gevaerd:Wedonothaveanyautopsyreport,anditwasperformedbyanotherdoctor’steam;inanothertown.ThemaninterviewedbyRogerwasanorthopedicdoctorwhowasondutyashisregularscheduleonthenightofJanuary20,1996attheRegionalHospital,towhereCherezetookthesecondcreature.Themedicalwasaskedbythemilitarytotakeasimplelookatthecreatureandspendonlyafewminuteswithit.

Pictured:MarcoEliChereze.Paola:Whydidthecreaturehavesurgeryiftheykilledhim?RogerLeirinhisbooksaidhislegwasinjured!Gevaerd:Thelegseemedinjuredbutnosurgeryoccurred.Thealienwasalmostdead.Nobodykilledit,asitwasabouttodieonitsowninthefewnextminutes.Paola:A.J.,thiscaseissoimportanttotheprotocolsforcontact,canyouclarifywhathappened.Gevaerd:InAugust2004,wasrevealedinBrazilalonginterviewofresearcherUbirajaraFrancoRodrigueswithDr.CesárioL.Furtado,oneofthephysicianswhohadattempted,withoutsuccess,tohealtheyoungpolicemanMarcoEliChereze,deceasedlessthanamonthafterhavingbeenincontactwithoneofthemysteriousbeingscapturedinVarginha,inJanuary1996.Oneofthemostseriousfactsofthe“Varginhacase”andoneofthemostappalling;wasthedeath,onFebruary15,1996,ofCorporalMarcoEliChereze,whowasthenaged23.Asweknow,hewaspartofthesecretserviceoftheMilitaryPolice(P2)thatparticipatedinthecaptureofthesecondcreatureinthenightofJanuary20,1996.Thenewsofhisdeathspreadveryfast,duringthefirstmonthsoftheinvestigations,accordingtoothersources,whichrevealedthatapolicemanhaddiedbecauseofageneralizedinfectionafterhavingbeenincontactwiththeET.Facedwiththegravityofthesituation,thesubjectwastreatedwithextremecautionbytheinvestigatorsconcernedwiththecase,whilethelawyer,andconsultanttotheUFOreview––UbirajaraFrancoRodrigues,wasstillsearchingfornewinformation.Paola:A.J.,IthinkthatthedoctorsoftheworldshouldhaveaWorldSymposiumtostudythisbecauseithappenedinBrazilandsomeonedied.Imagineifithadbeenchildrenoranentirepopulation.Conversely,ColonelCorsosaidthatthebeing(EBE)atRoswellfadedfastbecausehewastakenoutofhiselectromagneticenvironment.Wewerenotevencapableofsavingthemoroneof“ourown.”WhatelsecanyoutellusaboutChereze’sreaction?Heseemedtokeephiscomposureconsideringhehadacreature

onhislap.Gevaerd:RodriguesmanagedtocheckwiththeCityHallthatapolicemanhadreallydiedshortlyafterthecaptureofthecreatures.Theufologistevenobtainedacopyofthedeathrecord,bywhichhewasabletolocatethefamilyoftheman.ThesamewitnesswhoalertedtheinvestigatorsaboutthedeathofCherezealsodeclaredthatthecreature,atthemomentofthecapture,wouldhaveattemptedalightreaction,obligingthepolicemantotouchhisleftarmwithouthisgloves.Forsomeofhiscolleagues,hewouldhavebeencontaminatedonewayoranother.

ThefamilyofMarcoEliCherezemanagedtohaveaninquiryopenedbythelocalpoliceprecinctinordertoestablisheventualmedicalresponsibilitiesforhisdeath.Atthattime,searchesseemedtobedoomedtofailure,buttheyarestillunderwayatthepresenttime.Theparentsdidthatbecause,afewdaysafterJanuary20,asmalltumor,similartoafuruncle,appearedunderoneofthearmpitsofChereze.Thattumor;accordingtowhatwaslearnedatthetime,wouldhavebeenrapidlyextractedbythedoctorinchargeattheverypremiseswherehewasserving.Weknowtodaythatnothinglikehappened.Butwhatmostdrewtheattentionoftheman’sfamilywasthelackofinformationabouthishealthconditionand,later,abouthistragicdeath.Evenmonthsafterhisburial,nobodyknewexactlythecauseofhisdeath.

Paola:IftheautopsywereavailabletotheWorldHealthorganizationsthenwecoulddosomethingaboutthisandestablishcertainprotocolsandmoreimportantlyinformourpopulousthewaythemilitarydoesintheMajestic-12SpecialOperations(SOM1-01)manualtitledExtraterrestrialEntitiesandTechnology:DiscoveryandDisposal(www.majesticdocuments.com).Whyisthisprivilegedinformation?Whatdo

youknowabouttheautopsy,A.J.?Gevaerd:Thepolicesuperintendenthimself,wholeadtheinquiry,wasnotabletobepresentattheautopsyofthepoliceman,inspiteofhisinsistenceinthefaceofthepolicecorpsinwhichCherezeserved.Theretentionand/ordissimulationofinformationregardingthatsubjectwerepurelyandsimplyanaffronttothefamilyofCherezeandtothelawsoftheNation.Evenworse,suchanaffrontwascommittedbytheMilitaryPoliceitself.ItwasonlyoneyearaftertheeventofVarginha,onJanuary20,1997thatthingsbegantomove,afterthedissimulationofthefactshadbeendenouncedpubliclywithinsistence,bothbyufologistsandallthepress.

Amongthemostdisquietingfactsputforwardbytheinvestigators,therewaspreciselytheabsenceofinformationregardingthedeathofChereze,themostimportantpieceoftheheadachenamedtheVarginhaCase.Thus,inthemiddleofapressmeetingatthefirstanniversaryoftheevent,investigatorsdenouncedthesilenceandobtainedthatthefamily,thepolicesuperintendentandthepresshadatlastaccesstotheautopsyfile.Fromitscontents,soldierCherezewouldhavediedfromageneralizedinfection.Thepolicemanwouldhavearrivedathome,acertainnightafterthecaptureofthecreature,sufferingfromastrongpainintheback.Aftertheablationofthetumor,hewouldhaveshownagradualprocessofparalysisandfeverwhich,becomingmoreserious,obligedhimtogotothehospital,BomPastor,whereheremainedconfinedandpracticallyisolatedfromhisfamilyduringseveraldays.Closerelativesofthepoliceman,especiallyhissister,MartaAntôniaTavares,theonewhowentthemostfrequentlytothehospital,couldnothavecontactwithhimandhadgreatdifficultytomeetthedoctorresponsibleforthetreatment;anditwasevenmoredifficultforthemtodiscoverwhattheillnesswas.LittletimeafterhisentryatthehospitalBomPastor,thepolicemanwastransferredtothehospitalRegionalDoSuldeMinas,alsolocatedinVarginha,thesamehospitalwherehewouldhavebrought,inthenightofJanuary20,thecreaturehehadcaptured.Cherezewasleddirectlytothecenterforintensivecareoftheestablishmentandtakeninchargebytheveryphysicianwhorevealstodaypubliclywhatheknows.ThisiswhereCherezepassedawayatexactly11a.monFebruary15th,twenty-sixdaysafterhiscontactwiththeextraterrestrial.

IamincludingthisinthisreportwiththegenerouscooperationofA.J.Gevaerd,BrazilUFOmagazine,andveteranFrenchresearcherGildasBourdais,bothgoodfriends.

WhatwastheCauseoftheDeathofPolicemanMarcoEliChereze?BriefingAbouttheVarginhaCasebyA.J.GevaerdInterviewbyGildasBourdais

“Althoughallthetestsandexamspossiblewereappliedinthesearchofadiagnosis,hecouldnotbesavedintime,”wastodeclarethesuperintendentinchargeoftheinquiry,inthecourseofhisdepositionbeforethejudgeofthe“COMARCA.”ItwasjustdiscoveredthatthephysicianswhotookcareofCherezeatthetimedidnothavethefaintestideaofhowtofighttheillnessthatwasstrikinghimdown.AfterthedeceaseoftheboyhadbeenunveiledbeforethepresspresentatthemeetingofJanuary1997,thecommanderoftheMilitaryPoliceofthestateofMinasMeraisdeniedthefactsimmediately,includingthepresenceofCherezeduringthatnightofJanuary20th.But,inordertoprotectsuchanabsurdstory,theyinventedanevenmore-crudeone.

ThefamilyofMarcoEliCherezeconfirmedthathewasindeedondutythatnight.Furthermore,hedidnotdiesolelybecauseofhisprofessionalactivitiesafterthecontactwithanalien,butthecreaturehehadcaptureddiedalsoafterthatcontact,andmuchfasterthanChereze.“ItseemsclearthatthedeathofthepolicemanhasbecomethelesscontrollableandthemostdangerouspieceoftheprocessofdissimulationimposedbythemilitaryofESAandtheBrazilianArmy,”hasacknowledgedMarcoPetit,co-editorofthemagazineUFO,whoparticipatedactivelyintheinquiry.

A.J.GevaerdthenpresentstheinterviewofDrCesárioLincolnFurtadobyUbirajaraFrancoRodrigues,stressingtheconsiderableresearchofUbirajaraonVarginha,andthe“extremeimportance”ofthisdocument.(NoteofG.Bourdais:thefollowinginterviewofthedoctorgivesaslightlydifferentstory).Here,now,istheinterview.InterviewofDr.CesárioLincolnFurtadoByUbirajaraFrancoRodrigues(SummarybyGildasBourdais)ResearcherUbirajaraFrancoRodrigues(Ubirajara,hereafter)asksDrCesárioLincolnFurtado(DrFurtado,hereafter)whatwashisroleinthetreatmentofpolicemanCherezeinthehospitalsofVarginhain1996.Thefollowingisthesummaryofhisanswerstoseveralquestions,condensedinchronologicalorder:Ubirajara:Doyouseeotherinterestingaspectstomentionaboutthatepisode?Dr.Furtado:Listen,thereisthatstoryreportedbythefamily(regardingthecaptureofthebeing),aboutwhichIdon’tknowanything.But,wedon’tfindanyrationalexplanationforthedeathofthisboy.Becauseitwasterriblyfast,youunderstand?Ubirajara:Coulditbecausedbytotallyunknownbacteria,howeverimprobable?Dr.Furtado:Yes.Well,ifwetalkofsomethingcompletelyunknown,itisobviousthatwecouldnotriskanyconjectures.Thereisnoanswerpossible.Now,couldsomethinghavepenetratedinsidehisorganism,somethingequallyunknown,whichwouldhavedeprivedhimofhisimmunitysystem?Thisisanotherquestionwithoutanswer.Ubirajara:Couldyoutellwhattypeofthingwouldbesusceptibletoprovokethat,forinstance?Dr.Furtado:Idon’tknow.Thatmightbeaninjectable“poison,”aninfectionofinjuredskin,atthefaceorfoot.Itmightbeaninjurycausedbyanail,whichwouldprovoketetanos,etc.Butweknowtetanos.Amultitudeofthings,Imightsay,andthisisjusttoenumeratesomeexamplesofwhatmighthave

contaminatedthatboyanddeprivedhimofimmuneresistance.IrepeatthatIsaythatit“COULDBE.”Ubirajara:AreyoutellingmethatthedeathofMarcoEliCherezewasastrangedeath?Dr.Furtado:Astrangedeath,withoutrationalexplanation.Inthecourseofmyprofessionallife,Ihaveseenalreadytwopersons,agedabouttwenty-five,dieofaninfection,butweknewthatbothhadimmunedeficiency.Bothofthem,ifIrecallwell,hadhadremovalofthespleen(splenectomy)followingapastaccident.Afteracertaindelay,thatcausesimmunodeficiency.Inthatsituation,thepersonmaydeceaserapidlyifhefindshimselfintheconditionofasepticemia.But,onceagain,itwasnotthecase.

ThisisaclassiccaseoftheneedforestablishingprotocolsforcontactacrossbordersandonaplanetarylevelbutalsoformytruebeliefthattheInternationalCommunityshouldcometogethertostudythis.ItistothecreditofA.J.GevaerdinBrazilandGildasBourdaisinFrancetoleadthewayforthisfuturisticintelligentapproachtothestudyofCosmicCultures.Theyshouldbecomepartofateamofconsultantswhoarealreadyexperiencedindealingwiththebizarrenatureofthesecases.Onanexopoliticallevelaswellastheexobiologicallevel,weneedtodothisnow.Itwillsavelives.Itwillprepareus,andpossibly“them”,forapossible“favorable”contactthatdoesnothavetoendintragedy.

“TheExopoliticsInitiativeadvocatesadecadeofcontactthroughpublicdiplomacywiththeExtra-terrestrialintelligentbeingswhohavebeenactiveonandaroundtheearthforseveraldecadesatleastandwhoseemtoharbornohostileorpredatorydesigns.Onthecontrarysomeofthematleastexhibitrealconcernforoursurvivalasaspeciesandfortheecologicalhealthoftheplanet.Lt.ColonelWendelleStevens(USAF,Rtd.)isoneexpertwhohasanalyzeddatacollectedoversixtyyearsleadinghimtotheconclusionthattheExtraterrestrialswhovisitushavepeacefulintentions.

OtherprominentscientificnamesassociatedwithUFOresearchwhohaveasignificantdegreeofcredibilityareRobertOppenheimer,EdwardTeller,HermannOberthandJohnvonNeumann.IntheUSSRtheeminentrocketscientists,FelixZigelwasreportedlyinvolvedinthishighlevelscientificquest.”(ComeCarpentier)

Let’ssupposetheworldwakesuptomorrowtofindthatETsarehere.Thereisnolongeranydoubtatall,noroomfordebate.They’rehere.Nowwhat?ThisisthescenariothathappenedtoCharlesHall,atrainedAirForceWeatherobserverin1965.Forme,theCharlesHallcasethatIinvestigatedheldalotofquestionssinceIknewheinteractedwithTallWhiteAliensandtheirchildrenin1965inArea51.Iasked,“Didyoushakehandswiththem?Didyoutouchthem?”Charlesanswered,“Ohno,theymightkillyouandinterpretasharpmoveasaggression.”ButheaddedthattheambassadororelderTallWhitedidshakehandswiththeBirdColonel.Humanityneedstoknowhowtoactandvariousinvestigatorsoncontactcasescandomuchtoacquaintusontheexpectationsofseveralaliengroups.Iseethisasachancetomixfieldsanddrawonourrespectiveexpertise.AsanadministratorinEducationandateacherfor30years,Ihaveaneedtowriteandshareinformationandadesiretolearnmore.FormaleducationisthekeytofutureknowledgeandDr.MichaelSallahasnowdesignedafullcurriculumforaCertificateinExopolitics.IamnowteachingthreeclassesintheExopoliticsdegreeprogram.Thisisonesolutiontothepreparationforgalacticdiplomacyanditschallenges.Thispreparationcouldbeconsideredpoliticalscience.

ProtocolFiveCommunicationwithAlienRaces

Weneedtodealwithourfearofdiversityonalllevels.Wecanhavecontactwithnon-humanlifeformsbylearningaboutthemfirst.

-Whatcommonalitydowehave?-Howmanyracesarevisitingthisplanet?-IsESPandtelepathytheonlywaytocommunicate?-Doweneedtobecomebetter“listenersandobservers,”therebycreatingbettercommunication?-Howdowefosteranattitudeofmutualrespect?

TheTallWhitesontheNellisRange:InterviewwithCharlesHallWeneedtodealwithourfearofdiversityonalllevels.Wecanhavecontactwithnon-humanlifeformsbylearningaboutthemfirst.

Pictured:PaolaHarrisinterviewsCharlesHallatIndianSprings,Nevada,June,2004.

ImetCharlesandMarieThereseHallinRoswell,NewMexicoattheUFOMuseumin2003,andIheardCharlesspeakingabouthisexperience.Irealizedthathewas“recalling”andnotmakingupthisstory.NooneuntilthatpointhadinvestigatedthisbizarrecaseofalienguestswiththeirchildrenontheIndianSpringsgunneryrangeonNellisAFBin1965.ThemoreIheard,themoreIbegantoquestionmyownsanitysoIcalledincommercialairlinespilotCaptainDavidCooteandwebecameaninstant“ScullyandMulder”teamforayearandahalf.Intheend,weflewCharlesHalltoIndianSprings,Nevadatofilmhistestimonyonthespotwhereherecountshismanyexperiences.WealsoenlistedthehelpofaretiredLAPDpolicemantohelpfindtheotherenlistedmenwithwhomCharlesHallspenthistimeonthebasesincewehadtheirrealnames.FortyyearshadpassedbutwewereabletolocatethemandstillwiththekindinterventionofthisLAPDofficer.Forthefirsttimeinourresearch,wewereabletoenlisttheaidofaforensicartistfromAnaheimCaliforniaPolicedepartment,whoonherofftime,drewacompositeofTheTeacher,thechiefprotagonistintheHallstory.Thiscasechangedmyperspectiveonthelevelofinteractionourgovernmentand/ormilitaryhashadwiththesestarpeopleforsometime.Itisanamazingaccountanditisalsooneoftheverymostsuccessfulcontactseverconstructedbyhumanswithaliens,butthenCharlesHalldevelopedhisownprotocolsfromhisownexperiencesince“noonepreparedhimforthis!”

InterviewwithCharlesHallIndianSprings,NevadaJune,2004Paola:WhatevidenceistherethatExtraterrestrialsareinteractingwithhumansonthisplanet?Hall:Inadditiontomyownpersonalexperiences,thebestevidencethatIhaveconsistsoftheverbalreportsgiventomeduringthe1965to1968timeframebytheothermenwhoservedwithmeintheUSAF.I,myself,donothaveanyphysicalevidence,photographs,logbooks,anythingprintedorwrittenreports.However,overtheyears,Ihaveseenseveralpicturesandhighlyreliablereportspublishedinbooksbyotherauthorsthatshowedandreportedonthetallwhites.Thepicturesalsoshowedoneofthetallwhite’sscoutcraft.

J.AllenHynekofprojectBlueBookfamepublishedoneofthemostinterestingreports.HereportedhavingchemicallyanalyzedmaterialthatwasreportedtohavefallenoutfromthebottomofaUFO.Inhisreport,publishedbackinthelate1960s,(notsureoftheexactdateofpublication)hestatedthatitschemicalcompositionwassimilartothecompositionofslagtakenfromanaluminumfurnacethathadbeenheatedtoapproximately1100degreesF(IamdoingthisfrommemoryandbelievethatIhavethepropertemperature).Hefailedtonoticethatthechemicalcompositionofthat“aluminumslag”isthesameasthecompositionofmodernfiberopticsthathasbeenheatedtoitsmeltingtemperature.Opticalfibershaveachemicalcompositionthatisveryhighinaluminum.Ifhehadnoticedthesimilarity,hewouldhavehadstrongevidencefortheexistenceofUFOsthatalsopointedthewaytowardsunderstandingtheconstructionoftheiranti-gravitydrivepowerplant.IfAmericanscientistswouldinspectthesub-atomicparticlesthatareeasilycreated,(suchasmeson,baryons,etc.)toseewhichonescanhavetheirpathofflightcontrolledbyopticalfibers,hisworkwouldhaveresultedinoneofthemajordiscoveriesinphysicsofalltime.Thephysicalconstructionofthetallwhitescoutcraftandthetallwhitedeepspacecraftisfurtherdescribedinmybooks.Inaddition,intheappendixofMillennialHospitalityIII––TheRoadHome,Idescribemytheoryofphysicsentitled“HallPhotonTheory.”Ibelievethatitexplainswhytheconstructionofthetallwhitecraftallowsthosecrafttorapidlyacceleratetovelocitiesgreatlyinexcessofthespeedoflight.

Pictured:CharlesHall,PaolaHarrisandDavidCoote,LasVegas,2004.

Paola:Whenwasyourfirstencounterwiththesewhitebeings?Hall:InlateMayof1965andearlyJuneof1965.However,ittookmemanymonthstocontroltheshock,theterror,mynaturalfearofthem,andtoaccepttherealityofmyexperiences.Asdescribedinmybooksandwritings,formanymonthsIlivedindenialofmyexperiences,preferringinsteadtobelievealmost

anyotherexplanationforwhatwashappening.Paola:Weretheyeverinthecompanyofothermilitaryandwhen?Hall:Yes.Asreportedinmybooksandwritings,IfrequentlysawthetallwhiteextraterrestrialsaccompaniedbyUASFGeneralsandotherhigh-rankingUSAFofficers.Paola:Canyouspeakfrompersonalexperience?Hall:Yes.Myfourbookseriesentitled‘MillennialHospitality’andassociatedwritings,describeindetailmypersonalexperiencesatIndianSprings,Nevada,andmypersonalinteractionswiththetallwhiteextraterrestrials,whoseBaseislocatedinthemountainsnorthofIndianSprings,Nevada.Paola:WhatwasyourjobandpositionontheNellisBase?Pleasestatethedates.Hall:IenlistedintheUSAFinJuly1964.AftercompletingbasictrainingatLacklandAFBinSanAntonio,Texas,IwastrainedasaUSAFweatherobserveratUSAFWeatherTrainingSchoolatChanuteAFB,Illinois.MydutieswerethatofaUSAFweatherobserverduringmyentireserviceintheUSAF.InlateMarchorearlyAprilof1965,IwasassignedtotheweathersquadronstationedatNellisAFBatLasVegas,Nevada.IwasstationedatNellisAFBfromtheearlyspringof1965untilMay1967.WhileIwaspermanentlystationedatNellisAFB,Nevada,IwasassignedtoseveraltemporarytoursofdutyasthedutyweatherobservertotheNellisgunneryrangesthatarelocatedatIndianSprings,Nevada.TemporaryDutymeantthatIreceivedextrapayandbenefitswhileservingontheIndianSpringsranges.However,mychainofcommand,mypayrecords,andmymailingaddressremainedatNellisAFB.InbetweenmytemporarytoursofdutyatIndianSprings,IcouldreturntoNellisAFBfordutyforvariousshortperiodsoftime.Forexample,IreturnedtodutyatNellisAFBfortheChristmasholidaysof1965.Asdescribedinmyfirstbook,MillennialHospitality,atfirst,theotherUSAFweatherobserversandIsharedandrotatedthedutyatIndianSprings.However,duringthelatesummerof1965,andatleasttwiceagainintheveryearlyspringof1966,inseparateincidents,myreplacementweatherobserversreportedbeingterrifiedandthreatenedwhileoutontheranges.Onewasverybadlyattackedandgivenamedicaldischarge.Anothertwo-manteamofweatherobserversrefusedtogooutontotherangesbecausetheyreportedthattheywerefollowedandharassedwhentheywereoutthere.Afterthoseevents,asdescribedinmyfirstbook,acommitteeofhighrankingUSAFofficersandgovernmentofficialswasformedandtheydecidedtosendmealoneastheprimarydutyweatherobserverfortheIndianSpringsgunneryranges,whilestillmaintainingthetemporarydutystatuswithitsextrapayandprivileges.Iwasgivenspecialorders,asdescribedinmyfirstbook.Fromthattimeon,IwasstationedalmostcontinuouslyatIndianSprings.IreturnedtodutyatNellisAFBonlyforafewshortperiodsoftimetorestandtakeleave,etc.F.-DD-214:OnMay7,1967,IwastransferredfromNellisAFBtoBinhThuyAFB,RepublicofSouthVietnam.IwasstationedatBinhThuyfromMay7,1967untilMay8,1968.IwasstationedatBinhThuyovertheCommunistGreatTetOffensive.HavingcompletedmyVietnamtourofduty,IreturnedtotheU.S.andIwashonorablydischargedfromtheUSAFonMay8,1968atTravisAFB,California.Paola:WerethereothersbesidesyouthatsawtheTallWhites?Hall:Yes,thetallwhiteextraterrestrialswereseenoutontheIndianSpringsRangesbymanyotherUSAFpersonnel.TheseUSAFpersonnelfrequentlyencounteredthematcloserangeinandaroundthebuildingslocatedoutonthevariousrangesduringbothdayandnighttimeoperations.EncounteringtheTallWhiteextraterrestrialsatcloserangewassuchashockthattheywerefrequentlyreportedasghosts,angels,orasfantasticcreatures.Forexample,weatherobserverswhosawagroupofthemstandingsidebysidewouldcommonlyreporthavingseenaradioactivefloatinghorsenamed“RangeFourHarry.”OtherUSAFpersonnelwouldreportseeingshortglimpsesofthetallwhitesatcloserange,andthenreporthavinghada“MissingTime”experienceorhavinghadanunusualdreamwherehehadhaddaylightsightingsof

‘dirigibles’…thesethingswerenevertalkedaboutofficially.Wewouldonlymentionoccurrencesoneonone.TheonlythingthatwaseverofficiallysaidwasthattheFirstSergeanttoldmethatundernoconditionswasItoeverputaUFOreportonthecommentsorremarkssectionofanofficialAirForcedocument.Paola:Doyoustillthinktheyarestillthere?Hall:Yes.IbelievethattheyarestilltherebecausethemainhangerandtheirlivingquarterswerepermanentconstructionslocatedinthemountainsatthenorthendoftheIndianSpringsValley.Thealiensliveunderground.Themainhangerisundergroundanddugintoamountainside.Ithasanideallocation.Itallowsthetallwhitedeepspacecrafttoeasilyarrivehereonearth,landinfrontofthehangerentrance,andtoenterandlaterleavethehangerwithoutbeingeasilyobservedandwithoutinterferingwithcivilianairlineoperationsintheLasVegasarea.Paola:DoyoubelievethattherecouldbeotherracesonEarthandwhere?Hall:Yes.InthethirdbooktitledMillennialHospitalityIII––TheRoadHome,IdescribethesecondraceofaliensthatIhavepersonallymetthatarehereonEarth.InmybookIrefertothemasTheNorwegians.Ibelievethattheyarecomingherefromoneofthenearbystarssuchas,perhaps,Bernard’sstar,whichisapproximately5.5lightyearsaway.TheymightalsobecomingfromthenextstarpastBarnard’sstar,whichisapproximatelysixlightyearsawayandlocatedinthesamegeneraldirection.IencounteredtheminCambridgeWisconsinin1961,andagaininMadisonWisconsininthefallof1962andintheveryearlyspringof1963.TheylookexactlylikepeoplefromsouthernNorway,exceptthattheyhaveonlytwenty-fourteethandslightlywebbedtoes.Humans,ofcoursehavethirty-twoteeth.Theteethonthesealienshavemuchshorterrootsthanhumanteeth,andtheycanreplaceanytooththattheymayaccidentallylose.

Thismeansthattheyarenotlimitedtoonlytwosetsofteeththewayhumansare.Iwouldthinkthattherewouldexistsomedentists,bothinMadison,Wisconsin,andinnorthernEuropeinotherUniversitycommunitiesinthecolderportionsoftheworldthatcouldverifytheirexistence.Incidentally,asdescribedinmybooksandwritings,theonesthatIpersonallymet,hadunusuallycalmandpleasantdispositions.Theyseemedtowantonlytofitintooursocietyandenjoylife.Paola:Whatmessagedidtheteachergiveyouandhowdotheywishtointeractwithus?Hall:TheTallWhitefemalewhocalledherself“TheTeacher”explicitlystatedtomethatalltheyreallywantedwasforpeopletoenjoythem,whiletheywerehere.

Pictured:TheTeacher.IllustrationbyforensicartistL.Ruiz.Paola:WhydidyouwriteMillennialHospitality?Hall:IwrotetheMillennialHospitalityseriesbecauseIwantmychildrenandgrandchildrentounderstandhowIfeltwhenIencounteredthetallwhiteextraterrestrialsoutintheIndianSpringsvalleyinNevada.(Thishasbeenthechiefmotivationoftheninety-percentofthewhistle-blowerswhomIhaveinterviewedsofar.)

AttemptsweremadebyDavidCootetofindcorroboratingtestimonyfromanywitnessestoCharlesHall’sstory.TheseattemptsweremetwithsomesuccessafterhewasabletotrackdownthreeindividualswhowerestationedwithCharlesatIndianSpringsAuxiliaryFieldduringthesameperiodinthesixties.InkeepingwithCharles’originaldesiretokeeptheseindividual’sidentitiesprotected(ashedidinhisbooks)weshallrefertothemaswitness‘A’fromMichigan,witness‘B’fromPennsylvania,andwitness‘C’fromOhio.

Mypartnerinthecase,AirlinesCaptainDavidCoote,saystheirtestimony,thoughnotrevelatory,isyetsignificantincementingHall’sstoryinseveralways.HestatesallthreewitnesseswerealsoutilizedasweatherobserversasCharleshadbeen.TheyrememberedCharles,andconfirmedhispresenceandjobasCharleshaddescribed.Theyalsorecalledeveryday,mundaneeventsanddescribedtheplacejustasCharliehadwritteninhisbooks.TheyalsorememberedsomeoftheothernamesthatCharliehadrevealedtous.Witness‘A’.WxobserverforDet.31/25thWxSquadran(USAFMACunit).Also,anex-civilianpoliceman.RegardingCharlesHall:“Iknewhimverywell.”“Reallyniceguy.Realsweet.HardnottolikeCharlie.”

“Hewasoneofthosereallysmartguys…chemistrymajororsomething.”“ItaughthimhowtoplaychessandheknockedmeofftheBasetournamentonetime…veryintelligent.”RegardingsignificanteventsmentionedinHall’sbooks:

“They(otherbasepersonnel)usedtocomeupwiththisstoryof‘RangeFourHarry’.Hewassomekindofwild,radioactivehorse.”(AlsoCharlierememberedsomethingregardinganincidentwherewitness‘A’brokeatie-rodinatruckoutontheranges)Thewitnesssaid“…wellI’llbedamned…yeah,Ididthat.”Witness‘B’.62yrswithadegreeinelectronics

“Charliewasaparticularlybrightcharacter…morestudious…morereserved…Didn’ttalkmuchaboutit…weheardrumorsconstantly(aboutwhatwentonoutontheranges…‘RangeFourHarry,’etc.Charliewassoseriousaboutit.Buthedidn’treallywanttotalkaboutit.Ifelthedidn’tknowwhomhecouldtrust.Therewererumorsaboutpeoplegettingtransferred.Ifyousaytoomuchaboutthisstuff,thenyoumightfindyourselfwhereyoudidn’twanttobe.Charliespentmoretimeoutthere(ontheranges)thantherestofus.Ibelieveinhim…thathewasdealingwithsomethingoutthere.IneverfeltIwasalonewhenIwasoutthere.Itwasaverysecurearea.

Atonestagehe(witness‘B’)hadbeentoldfromanotherindividualthattheAirPoliceneverrespondedtocallsoutontherangesbecause“theywereafraid.”

Hestatedthat“CharlesHallisaverysincereperson.”Witness‘C’.“Pushingsixty.”Combatveteran.Retired.I’mguessinghewasn’tontherangesfortoolong.

“YesIknewCharlie.IrelievedCharliewhenheleftIndianSprings.Itwasaneerieplace.OnlyknewCharlieaweek.HewantedtotalktomeaboutEinstein’stheoryofrelativity…(when‘Charles’firstgotthere,he)…wastoldtobeobservantofUFOs.Ididfeelmanytimes(that)mylifewasindanger.I’dcalltheaerodromeofficeratNellisAFBwheneverIhadsuspiciousoccurrencesandtheywouldneverconfirmanyaircraftinthearea.AlotofthetimeIknewIwasn’taloneoutthere;whatevertheseforceswere,theywerehostiletomebecauseIhadahostileintenttowardsthem.”(Headmittedhehadalwaysbeena“fightfirst”typeofpersonality.)

Hefeltthreatenedbycertaineventsthathadtakenplacealthoughheneversawtheculprits.Therewereoccasionswhen“they”wouldshutthegeneratorsoff;once,bothatthesametime…alsoswitchedthelightswitchoffinthetruckwhenhehadleftitrunningoutsideinthedark.Witness‘C’statedhehadseenunexplainedlightsoutthere,bothonthegroundandintheair.Aboutthetimehe’d“finallyhadenough”anincidentoccurred,whenhesensedcompanyandwherean“orderly”pileoflarge‘targetposts’(approx10”by10”by15foot)hadbeenstrewnaboutjustoutsidehisrangeshackonenight.HejustjumpedinhistruckanddrovebacktoBase.HetoldhisFirstSergeantthathedidn’twanttogooutthereagain,that:“I’veperformedmydutiestothebestofmyability,andIdon’tcareifyouputmeinthebrig.”“IrecommendedthattheypulltheweatherstationfromtherangesandputitattheradarsiteonNellisforsecurityandotherreasons…andthat’swhattheydid.”

“ItwaseitherH(witness‘A’)orCharliewhohadmentionedtomecertainareasnottogo;wherehis(‘A’orCharlie’s)truckhadbeen‘shut-down’…andotherareaswherehehadhaddaylightsightingsof‘dirigibles.’…thesethingswerenevertalkedaboutofficially.

“Wewouldonlymentionoccurrencesone-on-one.TheonlythingthatwaseverofficiallysaidwasthattheFirstSergeanttoldmethatundernoconditionswasItoeverputaUFOreportonthecommentsorremarkssectionofthereport…anofficialAirForcedocument.I’mguessingthatapparentlytherehadbeenaprobleminthepast.”

Saysthatwitness‘B’isa“sharpguy.…Hehasbeentestedasagenius.”

So,howdidCharlescommunicatewiththesepeople?Hetoldmethatatfirst,theTallWhiteshadaspecialhelmetwithelectronicsthatwouldshootaquestionintohistempleifhepointedhisheadacertainway.Withthepassageoftime,hesaidtheyspoketohiminEnglishwithoutusingour“contractions”like“don’t,”insteadtheywouldusedonot.Ironically,EinsteininthefamousOppenheimer-EinsteinDraftDocumentalsobroughtupthisquestionwhenhewrote:

“Relationshipswithextraterrestrialmenpresentsnobasicallynewproblemfromthestandpointofinternationallaw;butthepossibilityofconfrontingintelligentbeingsthatdonotbelongtothehumanracewouldbringupproblemswhosesolutionsaredifficulttoconceive.Inprinciple,thereisnodifficultyincomingtoanunderstandingwiththemandestablishingallkindsofrelationships.Thedifficultyliesintryingtoestablishtheprinciplesonwhichtheserelationshipsshouldbebased.Inthefirstplaceitwouldbenecessarytoestablishcommunicationwiththemthroughsomelanguageorother…”[www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/pre1948.php]

WhenIpublishedandresearchedtheCharlesHallCase,withPilotCaptainDavidCoote,itopenedmymindtothebizarrerealitythatalienscouldbelivingamongusandalienchildrencouldbeinteractingwithhumanchildren.Weareallgoingtowardsanewfrontieranditissodifficulttobreaknewgroundbecauseitseems“bizarre”buttheimplicationsofExopoliticsleadustodevelopnotonlyaphilosophyofcontactbutalsosomeprotocolsthat,inthiscase,mayneedtobesetdownonthegrass-rootslevel.Iamsurethatiftherewere“formal”alien-governmentcontactsinthepast,theremusthavebeensomepreliminaryprotocolsestablished.TheBillyMeiercasehassomespecificonesthatweneedtoconsideralthoughthosewerethemosthuman-likealiensrecorded.

TheBillyMeierCaseSchmidrudi,SwitzerlandIn2005,IwenttoSwitzerlandtospeaktoBillyMeierwiththreeofmyItalianfriends,also

researchers.AlthoughBillyisveryprotectedbyhisgroupcalledFIGU,Iwasabletowalkthegrounds,seethefantasticarrayofvegetationthatgrowsthereinthatatmosphereandaskplentyofquestions.FIGUtoldusthatBillyhadseveralattemptsonhislifeandtheywerecarefultoscreenvisitors.

OnSundays,themountainchaletcomplexcalledtheSemjaseSilverStarCenterisopentothepublic.At3:00a.m.,theyhavetheirPeacemeditationinGermanandsincewecouldnotunderstandthelanguage,wewenttoabeautifulfloweringmeditationgardenonthepropertytomeditatebyourselves.AllatonceIlookedupandIsawBillyMeierstandingbythefencestaringatme.Iknowhewascheckingusout.MinuteslaterhesentGuidoMoosbrugger,Austrianauthorwhohasbeenfollowingthecasefortwentyyears,toustoanswerourquestionsforIunderstoodthatBillytreasureshisprivacy.Moosbruggerwrotetheverycomprehensivebook,AndStillTheyFly,abouttheMeierCase,whichIrecommendtoeveryone.Itisanexcellentbookonthiscontactcasewithhuman-likealiensbutmostlyitdiscusseswhatwearediscussinghere:theprotocolsforcontact.

Pictured:TheBillyMeiergangandPaolaHarris.Inonechapter(pages104-105),thePleiadianssaythattheirauralvibrationissohighlyintensethat

theyhaveanirresistibleinfluenceonahumanbeinginsearchoftruth.“Ifunprotected,thePleiadiansareenormouslysusceptibletothevibrationalrealmoftheaverageEarthcitizenandtheunavoidableconsequenceishopelessconfusioncombinedwithafeelingofanxietyandtheyactillogicallyanduncontrollably.Therefore,thePleiadiansshieldthemselvesagainstthevibrationsofEarthpeopleespeciallyifEarthpeoplearelessthan90meters(297feet)fromthem.Forsecurityandsafeguards,mechanismsareusedtokeepthesevibrationsawaysotheywillnotbeinjured.”(page160)WeseethatthePleiadianshippossessaprotectiveshieldthatprevents100-percentagainstthenegativevibrations,includingtherelativelylowfrequencyvibrationsofEarthpeople.Theyalsoclaimtohaveamechanismonboardthatcanmeasurethebrainwavesofanapproachinghumanbeingtoseeifhewillbecomeviolentorwillpanicwithfear.

Billysaysthathepossessedtheattributesthatacontacteemustalwayshaveathisdisposal.Amongtheserequirementsareprimarilythecommandofspiritualtelepathyandtheabilitytokeephisownthoughtsundercontrol,andifpossible,notradiateanynegativethoughtsfeelingsandvibrationsintohisenvironment.WeareaviolentspeciesandsoitislogicalthatsomemoreevolvedCosmicCulturesaretakingtheseprecautions.Thequestioniswhatprecautionsarewetaking?Itistimeweputsomethinginplace.Ihaveoftensaidthatwedonothandlediversitywellonthisplanetsohowcouldwehandleitwith

theadventofCosmicCultures?Thatbringsustoanotherchallenge.WhatwouldonedoiftheyranintoBigfootintheforest?The

followinginterviewopenedmymindtothisreality.KewauneeLapseritishasagreatdealofvideofootagethatheisnotmakingpublicyet.Fromseeingthefilm,Irealizedthatthiswasrealty.Thisvideofootagetakenallovertheworldproves,beyondareasonabledoubt,thatthesealienspeciesexist.Itimpressedmegreatlybutalsoitcomplicatedmyresearch,asIdidnotrealizethatspacecraftandaliengreyswerealsoseenwithBigfoot.Everythingmustbeconsideredifwearedealingwithcommunicationwithalienlifeforms.

InterviewwithJack“Kewaunee”Lapseritis,M.S.,authorofThePsychicSasquatchandtheirUFOConnection“Idon’tknowwhoyouarebutIwillnotharmyou!”Paola:Jack,whendidyoufirststartresearchingtheBigfootphenomenainparticular?WereyoufirstinterestedinUFOsbeforeyoubecameinterestedinBigfoot?Kewaunee:IprefertobecalledbymyNativeAmericannameKewaunee.Actually,IwasalwaysinterestedinUFOs,andotherstrangephenomena,butstrangelyenoughIstartedbecominginterestedinBigfootwhenIwas12yearsoldbywritingtodifferentUniversities,differentplacesandpeopleindifferentareas.Forinstance,IwouldwritetoHarrisonHotSprings,BritishColumbiaincareofthePostmaster.Butinthe1950s,attheageoften,IwasinterestedinUFOs.WhyIwasinterested?Idon’tknow.Buttherewaslittleinformationoutthere.Why?Idon’tknowbutattwelveIheardofBigfoot.Paola:Iheardyousayyouwereinthemilitaryforfouryearsandtraveledagreatdealandyouhadtenyearsofcollegeandfourdegrees,mostlyinanthropology.Kewaunee:Yes;IwasintheUnitedStatesArmySecurityAgencyanddidtravel.Paola:Ok.Sohowwhereyouraisedasayoungboy?Kewaunee:IwasraisedinbothwesternMassachusettsandVermont.Wehadahouseineachstate.IstartedmyBigfootresearchin1956inGreenfield,Massachusetts.MyfatherwasahunterandfishermanandtherewasanarticleinSTAGmagazineabouttheSasquatch,andthatismyfirstexperienceofsomethinglikethatexisting.That’swhenIwrotetoRutgersUniversityandseveralotherplaces,butmostlyCanadaatthetime,andIaddressedittothePostmasterofeverycity.IknewthePostmasterswereworkingforthegovernmentatthetimeandtheywouldhavetoanswerme.IwouldsendthearticleonBigfootandtheywouldgivemetheirunderstandingofthephenomena.AsItraveledallovertheworldlater,inEngland,EastAfrica,Japan,Australia,Icontinuedmycuriosity.IdidananthropologicalstudylivingamongtheTukunaIndiansinUpperAmazonia.MymotherwouldsendinformationandmagazineswhenIwasoutofthecountryforfiveyears.Paola:AtthattimewasthereonlythatonepictureofBigfootwithafilm.Correct?Kewaunee:Yes.TheRogerPattersonfilmwastakenOctober7,1967.IwaslivinginEthiopiaatthetimeandthatfilmhadbeenanalyzedoverandoveragainandthescientistswhojustlookedatitattheSmithsonianandtheycalleditafake.Buttodayeventhelaypersoncanseetheripplingmusclesinalltherightplaces,inthelegs,intheshoulderblades.Otherscientistshavenoticedthat.ItwasbroughttoRussiaandanalyzedforsixyearsbyphysicalanthropologistsandtheyanalyzedframebyframelikescientistsshoulddo.WhythescientistsintheUnitedStatesdidnothingisashameonthem.Whydon’ttheydothesamething?Paola:Thesamereasontheydon’tdoanythingaboutUFOsandtheparanormalandESP.Thisisnotpartofthedatabankofourwesternculture.Itrefusestogothere.Kewaunee:Itisabsurd.Well,ifyourecalllastweek,theTVprogram60MinutesinAugust2006,saidthisgovernmentscientistquitbecausetheBushgovernmentrefusedtoacknowledge,“globalwarming.”Theywantedtosaythatitwasnothappening.ThereisoverwhelmingevidenceforthisbutGeorgeBushandhisfatherhaveinvestmentsinfossilfuelandcontinuetodenythetruthaboutglobalwarming.SoIthinkmanyscientistsarethreatenedandaretoldthatyoucannotputtheBigfootinformationouttherebecausetheforestgiantsareassociatedwiththefriendlyETs.

Paola:InthisbookonExopolitics,Iamspeakingaboutprotocolsoffuturecontactwithextraterrestrials.Bigfootisadimensionalrealityseenallovertheplanet.CanyougivemethreesuggestionsabouthowpeopleshouldactiftheyencounteraSasquatchinthewoods?WhatshouldtheProtocolsbe?Whatthingsdotheyexpecthumanstodo?Kewaunee:Themostimportantthingistobetotallynon-aggressive.Ifyouhaveagun,layitdown.Ifyouhaveaholstergun,takeitoutandlayitdown.Lethimseeit.Hecanseeitandheknowswhatitis.Youmaysay,“Imayneedthattoprotectmyself.”Buttheyrun70milesanhour.Theycangetaholdofyouandtheycanflipacarwithonehand.Theyareincrediblypowerfulbutyouseenowherewheretheyareattackingpeople.Be“non-aggressive,”eveninyourmind.Backin1981,Iinterviewedthreepeopleages19,20,and22.Theysaid,“Wedon’tunderstand.Itwasa7-footSasquatch.WeranintoanA-framemountaincabin.Itpoundedonthedoors.Itbrokethewindowinback.”Theythoughtitwasgoingtokillthem.Itoldthem,“No,itwon’t.”Theysaiditattackedthem.“No.Poundingisnotattacking,”Iadded,andaskedthemwhattheywerethinkingatthetime.Oneyoungmansaid,“IfIhadagunIwouldhaveshotit!”Well,theywereprojectingtheirthoughtsanditcanliterallyreadminds.Paola:Thenthesebeingscanreadyourmindandthesepeopledidnotrealizeitbecausetheywerenotawareoftelepathy.Kewaunee:Right.Theywereprojectingunwittinglyalltheirnegativethoughtstotheman-creature.Paola:Don’ttheSasquatchknowwedon’tusetelepathyonthisplanet.Kewaunee:Ofcourse,butthatistotheiradvantage,isn’tit?Iwouldalsobethinkingwarmthoughtstowardsthem.Justthinkinyourmind“Idon’tknowwhoyouarebutGodblessyou.Wewillnotharmyouinanyway.”Justthinkit.Hewillknowthat.Paola:Yousaiditis“agiveandtake”betweenfoodandgifts.Youinteractwiththesebeings.Theyunderstandgivingandtaking.Kewaunee:Yes.I’veleftcrystalsforthem.Paola:Theydisappear?Theyarenottherethenextday?Kewaunee:Therewouldberocksthereorsometimesherbsareleftforme.Iamamasterherbalist.Theyleavecertainthings.Ioftenask,“Whatherbisthis?”Theytellmetelepathicallywhatitisanditsuse.ForyearsIstayedinacabin.IfIleavefoodthentheyleaveagift.Mycabinisattheedgeofawildernessarea.Thereisnobodythere.Paola:Yousaidyouareawareofthreedifferenttypes.Whichtypeshaveyouseen?Kewaunee:Ihaveseentheape-liketypecalledtheSasquatchandthosewecallthe“AncientOnes”thathavefarlesshairontheirfaces.I’veexperiencedETswiththem.I’veseensmallpeople.Isawoneinparticularwithslantedeyes,sharpfeaturesandaspacesuiton.I’veseenthosefromthePleiadesthatlooklikeusexceptthattheyaretall.Thewomanreabout6’3”andthetwomenare6’4”and6’6”inches,andtheyliterallyprojectedthemselvesdowninthemiddleofafriend’slivingroomandstoodthere.Theyhadfullsuitson.ThethirdSasquatch-typehasadogfaceorlookslikeababoonwithasnout.

InJanuary1991,four61/2feettallKachinaappearedatthefootofmybedinSedona,Arizona.IwasstayinginthehouseofanIndianmedicinewoman,andassoonasIturnedthelightsoff,theyappeared.Youcouldheartheirfeathersrustling.Youcouldhearthebellsaroundtheiranklesandtheytalkedtomeforroughly50minutes.Theytalkedtomeaboutmylife.TheyareETsbasically.TheyareintheHopi

traditions.Iunderstoodwhatunconditionallovewasandbeingnon-judgmentalbecauseofhowtheyspoketome.Itliterallychangedmylife.Paola:Lastquestion:DoyoueverthinkwewillknowthetruthabouttheSasquatch?Willtheyevercomeforward?Didtheysaymorepeoplewillseethemsomeday?Kewaunee:Theywantitoutmoreandmorebecausemoreandmoreforestlandisbeingdestroyed.Myfeelingisthatifthecleansingoftheplanethappensaround2012andseveralbillionpeopledie,andplagues,perhapsearthquakeshappenonamassivescaleglobally,thenthatiswhentheywillwanttohelpandtheywillreallycomeoutalongwiththefriendlyETs.Paola:Thenyoubelieveinthatprophecyaboutproblemsin2012.Kewaunee:Isuredo.TheMayancalendaristhemostaccuratecalendarintheworld,farmoreaccuratethanthemoderncalendar.Paola:Thentheytoldyouthatweareinforsometoughtimesahead.Kewaunee:Theytoldmetoputfoodaway,water,warmclothinginseveralplacesincasesomeonediscoversit.Theysaidwewillbesafeinthewoodsbuttheyliveundergroundandattimesentera“portal”or“vortex”thatleadstoanotherdimensionalworld.Epilogue

KewauneeLepseritishaswrittenthemostinteresting,comprehensivebookaboutthepsychicSasquatch,coveringthemostsightingsonthisplanet.HehasauniquerelationshipwithBigfoot,but,asaresearcherinterestedinAnthropology.Healsocitesdetailsofactualhumaninteractionbyinterviewingseventy-sixpeople(now151people)inhisbook,atthreedifferentmeetings.HetoldmeheevenspokewithDr.J.AllenHynekwhowasveryfascinatedwiththisaspectofthephenomena.BettyHill,themostfamousabducteeintheworld,wroteachaptercalled“BigfootinNewEngland,”whichfurtherdocumentsaBigfoot/UFOconnection.

TherearemanyvarietiesofpsychicSasquatch.TheYeti,whoarewhiteandseenintheHimalayas;thereddish-brown,ape-likeonesseeneverywhereintheUnitedStates;andthosehecallsthe“AncientOnes,”whoarehumanoid,havelesshairandareveryintelligent.Mostliveundergroundandalsoexitfromdimensionalportalsandareawareoftheirhumanneighbors.Thesenaturaldimensionalportalshaveashimmeringeffectintheforestandaredescribedbywitnesses.Itisthesame“shimmeringdimensionalportal”effectthatIaskedDanBurischabout.

Becauseofthequantumphysicsprincipleof“non-locality,”KewauneebelievesthisbeingcanappearanywhereastheETsdonow.KewauneeshowedsomeastoundingfilmfootageofoneyoungSasquatchlookingrightintothevideocamera.Healsoshowedmanyphotosofthesebeingswalkinguprightlikeusthroughthewoodsandtalkingfoodfrompeople’sgardens.Hehasalsocollectedhairandfecessamplesandhehasseverallargecastsofitsfootprintssothisprovesthatthereisagreatdealofconcreteevidencetostudy.EvenmoreinterestingisthisrelationshipBigfoothaswiththeExtraterrestrialraces.Theyandwemaybegeneticallyengineeredraces.Todaywehavemanyfilmsandphotostoaddtothisevidence.Allthisneedstobeexaminedscientificallyasitisareality.SincespaceshipsarethecommonoccurrencearoundBigfootsightings,KewauneeencouragesustorevisethescientificparadigmofresearchtoincludeexpertwitnesstestimonyconcerningBigfootusinganecdotalinformation.

Forme,thisisaperfectexampleofwhyitisessentialthatfriendlyexopoliticalprotocolsareinplaceforfuturecontact.Itwillenrichourlivestoencourageafriendlyrelationshipwiththesekindheartedbeingsandothervisitingraces.

Weneedtoconsiderthosecasesthattrulyhappen,eveniftheyaretotallybizarre.Whowasthebeing

thatappearedinthisschoolinNaples?Didadimensional“portal”openup?Thefollowingcaseleavesmorequestionsthananswers.

MysteriousHumanoidNearNaples,ItalyAnarticleaboutacasenearNaples,ItalyappearedintheItalianNewspaperLaRepublica,April25,2005titled“MysteriousHumanoidseeninCampaniaregionnearNaples”

WhattheresearchersarenowinvestigatingisaCloseEncounteroftheThirdKind;witnessesarestillundershock.Whenthepresspublishedthisnews,ateamnamedUfoitalia(www.ufoitalia.net)saidtheywereactivelystudyingthisveryimportantcaseandannouncedthereleaseofphotos,evidencesandfurtherdetailswithinfewweeks.Theyalsoclaimedthat,toprotecttheprivacyofmorethanthirtywitnessesinvolved,andduetothefactthatthesightingtookplaceinaveryimportantschool,theywouldnotmakepublicthenameofthetownorthenameoftheschool.TheymentionedonlythenameoftheItalianregionwherethefactshappened:CampaniaregionwhereNaplesislocated

ThisisthetestimonyofthefirstwitnesswhowasinvestigatedbytheUfoitaliateam:“Letmeintroducemyselftoyou.IamtheheadmasterofasecondaryschoolinCampania.Iamanold

manandIneverbelievedinparanormalphenomenaorinUFOs.Butashockingexperience,involvingallthe500studentsofmyschoolandtheirprofessors(everybodygotinterestedinthephenomenonwithastonishmentbutalsowithfear),mademetoreconsidermybias.Infact,onthedayofApril28,2005,moreorlessat11:40a.m.,inthecorridorsofourveryrespectableschool,Isaw,togetherwithProfessorI.S.andProfessorS.M.,acreatureofindefiniteshape,completelynaked,holdinginitshandsastrangeobject(ithadhandsbuttheywerenothuman;theyweresomethinglikeclaws).Wepanickedandranawayandthecreaturedidthesame.Itsescapewasseenbyatleast30students,wholaterconfirmedtheyhadclearlyseenitrunning.Afterthis,thecreaturedisappeared.Iwellunderstandhowallthisstorycouldsoundverystrange.Likealltheotherschoolprofessors,Iwouldneverbelievethatsuchthingscouldhappen.Newspapersdidnotwanttospreadthisnewsandwhenwecalledlocalauthoritiestheyonlylimitedtheiractiontoasuperficialinspectionbut,havingfoundnotracesorfootsteps,simplyignoredus,almostlaughingatourwords,sayingitallsoundedtooabsurdtobereal.Soweencourageyoutocometoourschooltodoaseriousinvestigation.”(Noteofthetranslator:Sadly,atthemoment,wemustnotethatmorethanoneyearafterthefacts,theso-called“Ufoitaliateam”hasdonenothing,hasreleasednothing,andtheirsiterevealsadesolatingtendencytorecycleoldnewswiththeonlyaimofsensationalism.Liketoomanyweb-ufologists,theyonlymakealotofnoise,lookingtotallyincapableofoperatinginthefield;and,consideringthatUfoitaliagaveoutnonames;andthatCampaniaisoneofthebiggestregionsinItalia,withhundredsoftownsandschoolsinitsterritory,theystoppedotherresearchersfromstudyingthiscase.Asaresult,onceagain,thiswasatriumphantcover-up.)

ProtocolSixRecord,CollectandDeciphertheCosmicMessages

Itisessentialtorecord,tocollectandtodecipherthecosmicmessagesofalltypes.

-Whoisinchargeofcollectingthisdata?-Areradiotelescopesantiquatedtechnology?Istherea“deep”spacemonitoringsystemofUFOs?-WhatisroleofPsychologistsandPsychiatristsin“contactcases?”-Docontacteescarrysignificantinformation?-Whoisdecipheringthecomplicatedmathematicalsymbolsincropcircles?-Aretheyreallymessagesfromthecosmos?-Doestheuseofnightscreeningdevicessuchasinfraredcamerasandbinocularshelpusperceive

anotherdimension?CosmicMessage

ThisisthemessagethatappearedintheCrabwoodcropcirclethathasanalienfacewithadigitaldiskundertheimage.Itwasstudiedanddecipheredandreads:

“BewarethebearersofFALSEgiftsandtheirBROKENPROMISES.MuchPAINbutstilltime.ThereisGOODoutthere.WeOpposeDECEPTION.ConduitCLOSING.”

Pictured:Crabwoodcropcircle.Ibelievethisseemsmaybeawarningfromthestars.TheAreciboReplycropcircleatChildbolton,

EnglandhasanimageofagreyandanimageofatripleDNAhelix,indicatingthathecamefromaplanetthathadsilicon-basedlifesystem.TheseimagesshouldbestudiedasspecificresearchthatIcall“cosmicmessages”becausewearebeinggiventheanswerstoquestionsaskedbutweareignoringtheseanswers.

Severalnewbooksandcasesthisyearillustratethatweneedtodeciphersymbols.ArtBellinterviewedJimSparks,authorofTheKeepers,whohasbeenabductedbyvariousaliensforthelasteighteenyears.Thealiensinformedhimthattheearthisverycloseto“thepointofnoreturn”andthatwearekillingitoffwithourpollution.Theyhadsaiditisstillpossibletosavetheearthandthattherainforestsarethekey.Theyarethe“lungs”oftheplanet.Thealiensaresavingseeds,plants,animalsandvariousthingsfromhereincasewedon’tmakeit(aNoah’sArkworst-casescenario).Whatisinterestingisthatthephoenixisbecomingacommonsymbol.Inchapterfourteen,titled“MyDaughter,”helearnedthataliensalsousesymbolismasweusetheflag,torepresentleadership,government,orsomesortoforganizedstructure.Hehascometobelievethephoenixsymbolizessomethingverydeep.Itisuniversalinnature.Itrepresentstheorganizedstructurethatisintheprocessofsavingthisdyingplanetfrom

completeenvironmentaldestruction.Sparksalsobelievesthissymbolrepresentsseveraldifferentspeciesofaliensfromallpartsofthegalaxy,andperhapsotherdimensions.Thisincludeshumans,thesamehumanswhohavebeenmembersofthissecretclubforaverylongtime.ThePhoenixisasymbolallofusshouldkeepaneyeoutfor.

Pictured:TheAreciboReplycropcircleatChilbolton.ItisironicthatwehaveasignificantmasssightingcalledThePhoenixLightsinPhoenix,Arizona.It

occurredonMarch13,1997.Thissighting,asdescribedinadocumentarybyDr.LynnKitei,changedtheconsciousnessofhundredsofpeopleinArizona.IhavenoticedthemuralsdepictingthismythologicalbirdatSkyHarborAirport,anotherinterestingimage.It’sinterestingthatNASAhasjustadoptedthissymbolforitsfutureMarsmissions.ThesymbolisforthePhoenixMarsLander.Doesthatmeanfromearthlycatastrophewewillreconstruct“humanlife”onMars?

Pictured:PhoenixMarsLanderpatch.Whatisthatasymbolfor?Itcouldbethefastaccumulationofproblemscausedbyecological

pollution,sociopoliticaldecay,genomefunddepletion,andexhaustionofnaturalresources.Ifhumankindwishestosurvive,anewstrategymustbeadopted.Onesuchstrategysuggestedisthe“openingoftheheart,”suggestedbyDr.JohnMack.

Whatismostmemorableisaspiritualinterventionthatwasanenormouslyeffectivetool.Manyrememberthe1987HarmonicConvergenceofJoseArguelles.Itbroughtourplanettogether.Therearemanypeopleinthefieldwhoareworkinghardinthiseffort.

TheMessagesfromContact:InterviewwithYvonneSmith,PsychotherapistInterviewwithYvonneSmith,PsychotherapistSanDiego,CaliforniaMay,2009

Pictured:ColinAndrews,MichaelHesseman,YvonneSmithandCol.PhilipCorso,SanMarino,1998.Paola:Yvonne,youarethecreatorofCERO.CanyoudescribetheobjectiveandthemembershipofCERO?Whatisyourwebsite?Yvonne:CERO(CloseEncounterResourceOrganization),anon-profitorganization,wasfoundedin1991,withasmall,coregroupofmembers––chartermembers,ifyouwill––whowereinstrumentalinhelpingmeestablishgroundrulesandthename.TheobjectiveofCEROistoprovidea“safehaven”forthoseindividualswhohavehadaUFOencounter.Asmyhypnotherapypracticegrew,Irealizedthatmanyofthesepeoplehadnosupportsystem;theyfeltisolated.DuringtheCEROgroupmeetings,membersareallowedtosharetheirexperiences,cryandlaughwithoneanother,withoutthethreatofbeingridiculed.Theyhavebecomeafamilytooneanother.CEROmembers,pastandpresent,consistofpeoplefromallwalksoflife:doctors,lawyers,collegeprofessors,filmindustrypersonnel,constructionworkers,postalworkersandhousewives.

AfterfoundingCEROandbecominginvolvedwithsomanyindividualswhohadexperienced“closeencounters,”Iquicklylearnedthattherewasworldwideinterestinthissubject.Sincethen,Ihavebeenaskedtomakefortytofiftytelevisionappearancesandradiointerviews,bothintheUnitedStatesandinEurope.Thesameinternationalinterestresultedinmybeingaskedtolecture,notonlythroughouttheUnitedStatesbutalsoinSouthAmericaandEurope.Mywebsiteis:ysmith.com.Paola:Yvonne,youarecurrentlybecomingmoreactivesinceyoutookafewyearsoff.Telluswhatinspiredyoutoreturntoyourlife’spassion?Whendidthishappen?Yvonne:Becauseofsomedifficultiesinmyprivatelife,Ifounditnecessarytotakeahiatusofacoupleofyears.MyreturnbegantooccurinJanuaryof2004.Individually,CEROmemberswerecalling,urgingmetogetthegroupbacktogether.Themagicalaspecttothisisthatthemembersdidnotknowthattheotherswerecalling.Itwastrulysynchronicity.Oncethishappened,Irealizedthattherearestillhundredsofpeoplewhoarehavingexperienceswhoneedhelp.CEROmembersinspiredmetoreturnandcontinuemy“life’swork.”

Paola:HowhastheUFOfieldchangedovertheyears?Yvonne:Inthelastfewyears,theresearchshowsthatabductionshavenotsloweddownandthealiensarerapidlyimprovingthehybridprogram.Inpastyears,thehybridswereveryuniquelookingandcouldeasilybeidentified.Irecentlyvisitedwithmycolleague,DrDavidJacobs,inNewYork,whoreinforcedthebeliefthatthegoalofthealiensistointegratethesehybridsamongus,unnoticed,inoursociety.Ofcourse,thereisatremendousamountofworkyettobedoneinthisarea.Paola:Whatdoyouseeasdifferentinyourhypnotherapygroup?Yvonne:Overtheyears,IhaveseentremendousgrowthinCERO.Membershavespentyearsprocessingwhattheyhaveexperiencedandincorporatingitintotheirdailylives.Theirspiritualgrowthistrulyinspiring.Inrecentgroupmeetings,theyhavediscussedtherealizationthat,iftheylivetheirlivesinapositivewayandextendthemselvestoothersinapositiveway,theworldcanbechanged.TheestablishedmembersarenowhelpingandassistingnewmemberstodealwiththeirUFOexperiences.Paola:YouhavejustreturnedfromNewYork.YousaidthatyousawBudHopkinsandDavidJacobsandyouattendedaLindaCortilelecture.Somanypeopleareinterestedinthisabductionbecauseit,supposedly,involvedtheSecretaryGeneraloftheUnitedNations.Whatyearwasthisabduction?TelluswhatyoulearnedinNewYork.Yvonne:TheLindaCortilecaseisnotonlyinterestingandcompellingbut,recentlywhilevisitingmycolleague,BuddHopkinsandhisIntrudersFoundation,inNewYork,Mrs.Cortilegraciouslytookmeonapersonaltourofthesitesoftheeventsofthatfatefulnight.TheabductionoccurredonNovember30,1989,atapproximately3:00a.m.inNewYorkCity.Thereweremanywitnessestothiscase,includingtwoNewYorkCitypoliceofficersandaveryinfluentialpoliticalfigure.DuringMrs.Cortile’slecture,shespokeaboutherpersonalfriendshipwiththelateCardinalJohnO’Connor,suggestingthatthehierarchyoftheRomanCatholicChurchisinterestedintheUFOphenomenon.Also,duringtheseminar,twootherwitnesses,who,atthetimeofherabduction,wereemployedattheNewYorkPost,cameforwardtobrieflytalkaboutwhattheysawthatnight.AsaresultofmyNewYorkvisit,Iexpectthattherewillbemoredevelopmentsinthenearfuture.Paola:YoumetColonelCorsoinItalyforSanMarino(conference)1998.Whatdidyouthinkofhimandhisdisclosure?Yvonne:MyvisittoItalyandSanMarinoin1998wastrulyamemorableexperience,whereoneofthehighlightswasmeetingColonelPhilCorso.AsIwastakinginthesitesinRomewiththeColonelandhisfamily,IenjoyedlisteningtohimtalkaboutthewarandthetimehespentinRome,backin1944and1945.HisbookTheDayAfterRoswellisintriguing,ashedescribeshowthe1947Roswellcrashhelpeddevelopreverseengineering.Hewantedthetruthtobeknown.Hetoldmethatthepublicandtheyoungpeoplehadtherighttohavethisinformation.

Ihavealwaysappreciatedthatyou,asaclosefriendofColonelCorso,gavemetheopportunitytomeethimandhearsomeofhisexperiences.

AllofthishascontributedtothebodyofknowledgeIhaveaccumulatedovertheyears.MuchofitisinmynewbookChosen.

AliensLivingAmongUs:InterviewwithHelenLittrell,authorofRaechel’sEyesTwoyearsagoIbecamecuriousaboutabookRaechel’sEyeswrittenbyHelenLittrellandJean

Bilodeaux.IcalledHelenbecauseitwasherblinddaughterwhoacceptedthehybridgirlRaechelasaroommate.ItwasJeanwhoisaMUFONinvestigatorwhodidafinejobofgettingthedetails.IthenmetbothwomenattheLaughlin,NevadaUFOcongresssomeyearsago.Thestoryistooincredibleandfilledwithpoliticalimplicationsandpolicyissues.ItreflectstheEinstein-Oppenheimerdocumentconcernsaboutaliensrelocatingamongusandthedifficultiesthatmightoccur.ItisahauntingstorytoaresearcherlikemetoknowthattherearehybridsamongusbutthenIrememberedthatCliffordStonewhoworkedoncrashretrievalsoncetoldmethatentireextraterrestrialfamilieshavebeenrelocatedonthisplanet.IstronglyrecommendthisbooktoallwhowanttobeacquaintedwithhowwecouldpossiblyintegrateCosmicCulturesintooursociety.TalkingwithHelenrecently,Irealizedthatsherememberssomuchmoreandhasmoretotell.Itisobviousthatthosepeoplelikeherwhohavelivedtheexperiencewillknowtheprotocolsinvolvedandbecomeouroff-planetculturalconsultantsofthefuture.

Paola:Doyouknowforafactthataliensoralienhybridsareamongus?How?Helen:AliensandalienhybridshavebeenpresentamongusonEarthforatleastthirty-fiveyearsthatIknowof.ThefirstpersonalcontactthatIamawareofwithalienhybridswaswhenImetRaechelNadim

inthespringof1972whenshehadbeenplacedwithmydaughter,Marisa,asaroommateinanapartmentcomplexnearajuniorcollegewheretheywerebothenrolledasfreshmen.AfewmonthslaterIvisitedaTopSecretmilitaryinstallationcalledFourCornerswhereImetanotherhybrid,ageneticistinvolvedinanongoingexchangeprogrambetweenhishomeplanet,ZetaReticuli,andtheU.S.government.ThiswasthesamehybridwhohelpedwithRaechel’supbringingafterherrescuefromadownedcraftseveralyearspreviouslywhenshefirstarrivedatFourCorners.IcannotsaythatIhavehadpersonalcontactwithanalienperse,althoughIhavebeenabductedseveraltimesovertheyears.AlthoughIalwaysknowwhenthisisabouttotakeplace,thereisneveranyconsciousrecallofeventsthattookplaceduringtheabduction.Ido,however,believethatalienbeingsareresponsibleformyabductionsandIamquitecertainthatIhavesomelevelofinteractionwiththematthosetimes.Paola:Wasthereanymilitaryinterventionthatwasinvolvedthatyousaworexperienced?Helen:SoonaftermeetingRaechelfacetofaceattheapartmentandrealizingimmediatelythatshewasnothuman,herfather,AirForceColonelNadim,setupameetingbetweenme,mydaughter,andhimselftoexplainherbackgroundaswellashis.HisfirstdutystationwasatFourCorners,aTopSecretundergroundinstallationthatforallintentsandpurposesdidnotexistbutwasanintegralpartoftheHumanizationProject.

Raechel’sspecialfoodanddrinkingliquidwereleftoutsidetheapartmentdooratspecifiedintervalsbymembersoftheHumanizationProjectwhoalsoappearedapproximatelybi-weeklytointerviewheranddiscussherprogress.Ipersonallysawthreeoftheseso-called“meninblack”astheywereleavingtheapartment.Wemetonthestairway,andtheirappearancewasextremelymenacingandIwasfrightened.Ialsosawtheirvehicleintheparkinglotontwodifferentoccasions.Itwasavintage1930sshinyblackCadillacthatresembledaWorldWarIIGermanArmystaffcar.Itslicenseplatewasalsounique.Paola:HowdidyouknowRaechelwasnothuman?Describeher.Helen:AsIlefttheapartmentoneeveningaftervisitingmydaughter,ImetRaechelquiteliterallyfacetoface.Sheapparentlytrippedonsomethinganditwasevidentshewasgoingtofallstraightforward.Ireachedoutandcaughtherarmtobreakthefall.Indoingso,Ifoundmyselfholdingontoskinthatinnowayfelthuman.Herfacewasinchesawayfrommine.Thelarge,wrap-aroundsunglassesthatshealwaysworeindoorsandoutslippeddownonhernose,revealingherhugeeyesthatslantedupwardoutontohertemples.Theywereavocadogreenincolorwithverticalblackslitsinsteadofpupils.Iwaspositivethatshewasnothuman.Asubsequentmeetingwithherfather,ColonelNadim,providedfurtheracknowledgementthatshewasindeedahybridhuman/alien.

Raechelwasabout5’4”inheight,slightlybuilt,withlong,thinarmsandlegs.Herskinwasapaleorange/greenishcolor,andherhairwaswispyandlightreddish-blonde.Shewasactuallyfairlyattractiveonceonegotpastherunusualfeatures.Paola:Wassheabletogetalongwellwithhumans?Whatwerehermajordisadvantages?Helen:Raechelappearedtointeractsatisfactorilywithhumans,especiallymydaughter,Marisa.Infact,theybecameclosefriendsandtherewereotherclassmateswhoknewhersocially.Amajordisadvantagewasherspeechthatwasalwayssomewhatmechanicalandconveyedlittleemotion.Additionally,shehadalmostnofontofknowledgethatwouldbenormalinayoungfemalecollegestudent.Shedressedexclusivelyinjumpsuitswithlongsleevesandworeascarftiedaroundherheadandsheworelargewrap-aroundsunglasses.

Thisoutfitwaswornindoorsandout.However,sincesheremainedsomewhatwithdrawnanddeeplyinvolvedinherstudies,noneoftheseuniquecharacteristicsappearedtobeproblematictoher.Paola:Whathappenedtoher?

Helen:Raecheldisappearedsuddenlyandwithnowarninginlatespringof1972.MydaughterreturnedtotheapartmentforlunchonedayanddiscoveredthatallofRaechel’spossessionsweregone.Panicked,shecalledmeatworkandI,inturn,contactedafriendinBaseSecurityattheinstallationwhereIworked,askinghimtocheckonColonelNadim’swhereabouts.MinuteslaterIwasnotifiedthathewasalsomissing,aswereallfilespertainingtohim.Itwasasifthetwoofthemhaddroppedoffthefaceoftheearth.

In1998duringhypnoticregression,IdiscoveredthatmembersoftheHumanizationProjecthaddeterminedRaechelhadacquiredagreaterdegreeofemotionthanwasdesired,andthatbecauseofthistheyhaddisposedofher.Ilearnedthattheyhadpushedherdownasteep,darkflightofstairstoherdeath.Thiswasreinforcedduringanabductionin2005wheretheactualscenariowasplayedoutinfrontofmyeyesandIwasrestrainedforciblyfromattemptingtohelpher,allowedtobemerelyanobserver.Paola:WhatprotocolsdothecitizensofEarthandwe,asGalacticDiplomats,needtoadoptforfuturecaseslikethis?Howcanwebeprepared?Helen:ItisobviousthatascitizensofEarthingeneral,andGalacticDiplomacyadvocatesinparticular,weneedtopubliclyacknowledgethehugenumberofhuman-alienhybridsalreadyintegratedintosociety.Theyminglewithussociallyandintheworkplace.Weseethemonthestreets,ingrocerystores,inourneighborhoods;inschools,restaurants,andhospitals…theyareeverywhere.Itisimperativetoacknowledgetheirpresence.Thisisnotanewsituation;theyhavebeenhereformillennia,althoughthenumberofoff-planetbeingsisincreasingexponentially.Wemustcontinuetospeakoutconcerningourindividualexperiencesalthoughcautionshouldbeexercisedsincethereisalwaysariskofjobloss,estrangementwithfamilyandfriends,andoccasionalgovernmentharassmenttothosewhodarespeakthetruth.Thisgraduallylessensindividuallyandcollectivelyaswecontinuetospeakout,andmoreandmorepeoplearevoicingacceptanceofaliencontact.Itiswisetochoosevenueswhereitissafe,asthesearetheplaceswhereitwillbemosteffective.Wemustcontinueencouragingourelectedrepresentativestoconducthearingswhereinweareallowedtotellofourexperienceswithoutfearofretribution.

ThoseofusprivilegedtobeguestsonworldwidetalkshowsareintheforefrontoftheGalacticDiplomacyadvocacy.Wespeaktomillionsofpeopledaily,providinglistenerswiththecouragetheyneedtosharetheirexperiencesofcontactandabduction.Thoseofuswhowritebooksonthesubjectalsooffersilentcouragetothosepreviouslytootimidtospeakout.Whatwillpeoplesay?Whatwilltheythink?Whatmighttheydo?Thesearelegitimatefearsthatpreventpeoplefromconfessingthattheyhavebeenabducted,orvoicingthesuspicionthattheymayhaveanalienchild.

Wemustputasideourfearstospeakoutandthenstandourgroundoncewehavedoneso.Thetruthisthatonceapersonacknowledgesinteractionwithahybridoranalien,theonlyconsequencesaretheexperienceofatremendousloadhavingbeenliftedfromtheirshoulders,andthepowerandknowledgethattheyarefreetoexplorethenewworldthathasbeenshowntothem.

IndigoChildren:TheJasonAndrewsCaseInTheIndigoChildren:TheNewKidsHaveArrived,LeeCarrollandJanToberdefinethe

phenomenon.Indigos,theywrite,sharetraitslikehighI.Q.,acuteintuition,self-confidence,resistancetoauthorityanddisruptivetendencies,whichareoftendiagnosedasattention-deficitdisorder,knownasA.D.D.,orattention-deficithyperactivitydisorder,orA.D.H.D.Offeredasaguidefor“theparentsofunusuallybrightandactivechildren,”thebookincludescommoncriticismsoftoday’schildrearing:thatchildrenareover-medicated;thatschoolsarenotcreativeenvironments,especiallyforbrightstudents;andthatchildrenneedmoretimeandattentionfromtheirparents.Butthebookseeksanswerstomainstreamparentalconcernsintheparanormal.

In2006,ImadearealefforttocovermorecontacteecasesandbeganbyflyingtoLincolnshire,

EnglandtothehomeofJasonAndrews.ThebookJason:MyIndigoChildwaswrittenbyAnnAndrewsandhersonJason.PaulandAnnAndrews,Jason,andJason’swifeJacqui––wholivenearbyintheirownapartment––greetedme.TheAndrewshouseislocatedontwopowerfullay-linesandisfilledwithparanormalphenomena.Thisincludesentities,ghostlyfigures,UFOsightings,dimensionalshiftingandalltheothersituationsthatAnnAndrewsrecountsindetailinherbook.IcanattesttothefactthatthesethingsaretruebecauseasIwasaguestintheirhomeforthefirstthreenights,butaskedtogotoamotelthelastthreenights.ThesecondnightthereIheardmynameclearlycalledbyamanwithaBritishaccentintheroomwhereIwassleeping,inJason’soldroom.Thethirdnight,Itooksomephotosofunusualphenomenainthehallwherethestaircasewas.Iheardfootstepsallnightlongofsomeonewalkingupanddownthestairs.AnnandPaulAndrewsareusedtothisanditdoesnotdisturbthem.Buttheyhavehadtwenty-plusyearsofsomeonetakingtheirsonandoffindinghiminoddplaces,twentyyearsofghostlypeopleintheiryard,andtwentyyearsofbeingwatchedbyETs.TogivethereaderabetterinsightintowhatJasonisallabout,IhaveincludedthetranscriptofpartsofaninterviewthatheagreedtodosometimeagofortheDiscoveryChannel.

Pictured:Jason’sroom.PhotobyPaolaHarris.Question:Ithasbeenwelldocumentednowthatyoupossesscertainabilities,whichareunusualtosaytheleast!Youclaimthatyouhaveenduredabductionsbyalienbeingsformostofyourlife,butyouarenowatapointinyourlifewhereyoubothwelcometheirintrusionandactuallylearnfromthem.Youevengoasfarastostatethat‘they’haveawakenedyoutotherealitythatyouyourselfareofalienorigins.As‘they’havetaughtyousomuch,couldyouexplain,perhaps,howyouareabletotravelastrallyandastrallyprojectyourself?Jason:Thesetwoarenotthesamething;theyaredifferent.Toastrallyprojectmyselftoanotherplace,IsimplyconcentrateandthinkhardthatIwanttoseethatplace;allofthatplace;IwanttobethereinthesamerealityinwhichIexisthere,tobeabletoseeandbeseen.Partofme,myself,myenergythengoestothatplaceandsendsimagestomybrain.IcanevencommunicatewithpeoplewhilstthereandagainmybrainisabletostoretheconversationasifIhadphysicallybeenpresent.Obviously,asmostofmyenergiesarestillherewithinthephysical,IsupposeImustseemlikeanapparition;aghostorsomethingwhilstI’mthere,butIcanstillwalkaroundandtalkinthisreality.It’sabitlikewatchingatelevisionprogramwhilstdoingloadsofotherstuffatthesametime.Astraltravelismucheasierandmostpeoplecandoit,whetherconsciousofbeingabletodothisornot.Ithappenswhenyouareoutofbody.Youareabletomoveeasilyandfreelythroughobjects,throughwalls,etc.,andjustwanderaroundinthatstate.Themoreyouareabletomasterthis,thefasteryouareabletomoveandcantakeyourselfanywhere.Asyoudon’thavetoworryaboutbreathingordrowningoranything,youcangoanywhere––evenspace.

Whenaskedabouttheknowledgethathewasgiventhatmadehimspecial,Jasonwiselyansweredinthefollowingway.IrealizedthatJasonisverywiseforhisageandhecouldbespeakinghereaboutsomeoftheprinciplesIdiscussedinthisbookaboutthecyberneticentitiescalledtheCouncilofNineortheNine.Althoughhemaynotbereferringtothemspecifically,theconceptoftheSourceorGodisveryinteresting.Jasonanswerslikethis:

“Letmefirstsaythatno-oneeverknowseverything.ThatisfortheSource;theOne.Andyou’rewrongbecauseitisn’tacaseofknowing;ofhavingimmenseknowledgebuttheartisinknowinghowtousethatknowledge;havingthekeytoitifyoulike.Knowhowtousetheknowledgethatyouhaveandyouwillgofar.

“Myunderstandingisthataeonsagotherewasthevoidandoutofthevoidsomesortofenergybegantobe.Asthisenergygrew,itbecamepowerfuland,overtime,theSourcesplititselfintootherenergies

muchlikeitself.Thereweretwelveformsofenergytobeexact.ThisiswhereyourBiblegetsconfused.Thescribeswriteabouttwelvedisciples,twelvetribesofIsrael,etc.Theyarereallyreferringtothetwelveentities,ifyoulike,producedbytheSource.ThesenewformsdispersedthroughoutthevoidandgraduallycreatedtheUniverse.Asthedecadespassed,theirknowledgeincreased.So,technically,your‘bigbang’theorywouldbecorrectinawayifyouperceivethateverythingisenergyanditreactsagainstitself.Ofcourse,themoreintelligentthetwelvebecame;themoreindependenttheywereand,tomyknowledge,threeofthemcommittedtheultimatesinandwentagainsttheSourcebyinterferingwiththecreationstheyhadhelpedtomould.AsIsaidearlier,wecanonlyadviseandhelpwheneverpossiblebutwecanneverinterferedirectly.TheconsequencesoftheiractionswerethattheywerecastoutfromtheSource(youknowlikeyourBiblesays,“thatGodcastouttheDevil”).Doesn’tmeanthattheywereevilassuchbutyoucan’tignoretheultimateandonlyrule.Thenineremaininghavevisitedyoufromtimetotimethroughoutyourhistoryandyouhaveknownthemasgreatmen;likeJesusChrist,theBuddha,Allah,etc.,butthey’vebeentootherplacestoothroughouttheUniverseandhavebeenacclaimedinmuchthesameway.Idosomehealinginthephysicalsensewhenmyparentsallowvisitorstocometothehouseand,aswithallhealing;itisallaboutmovingtheenergiesaroundinpeoples’bodiesandunblockingthem.Therearenoguaranteesbutifthedamageisn’tlongterm,thenIcanusuallyhelp.Inthesecircumstances,Iliketotryandteachthepeoplewhocomeforhealinghowtosortthemselvesoutinthefutureandformostofthemthishasbeenverysuccessful.”

JasonspeaksaboutindigochildrenorstarchildrenfromdirectexperienceandIthinkthatthishelpsthereaderunderstandthatthereisanewgenerationbeingbornthatcaneasilynavigatebetweentwoworldsandthattheyusetelepathy.Thisisthegenerationthatmightindeedbeabletocommunicatewithan“orb”oranintelligentlightbeing.JasonAndrewsexplainsitlikethis:“TheStarKidsaremostlyborntoparentswhereoneofwhomisanalienabductee,whethertheyareawareofthisornot,butmostparentsdoknow.Thesechildrenareincrediblybrightevenataveryyoungageandtheyknowfromthebeginningthat,whilsttheylovetheirparents,theyunderstandthattheirrealhomeiselsewhere,outtheresomewhereamongstthestars.Thisfeelingoftenfillsthemwithsadness;alongingtoexploreanddiscoverjustwhotheyreallyarealthoughtheyknowthatwhentheyareready,thisinformationwillberevealedtothem,justasitwastome.Theywillfindforthemostpartthattheydon’tfitinwithconventionalsocietyandits’demands.Astheygrow,theyfeelalmostlimitingintheirphysicalbodies,astheyknowthattheyaresocumbersomeandthattheythemselvesarecapableofsomuchmore,butthishastobeconfirmedtothem.Iusethewordconfirmedas,likeIsaid,thesekidsknowexactlywhotheyare,andmoretothepoint,justwhytheyarehereatthisprecisemomentintime.Ultimately,theyareyoursalvation.Theyarethenewraceofhumanitywho,ifallowed,willleadtheWorldonits’pathwaytopeaceandunderstanding.Thesekidsarenowbeingrecognizedtheworldover.Dr.RichardBoylaninAmericaisworkingwithalotofthem.ThisishappeningtooinAustraliaand,toalesserextent,intheUnitedKingdomtoo.Alotofthesesocalled‘experts’areskepticalabouttheirabilities––andtheirmotives––whilststillotherexpertsputthemunderthesupervisionofpsychiatristsfortheirowngood.

ProtocolSevenInternationalCooperationandResearchCriteria

Weshouldencourageinternationalcooperation.WeneedanInternationalPaneltocreatetheseProtocols.ThisisaboutplanetEarth,notaboutanyindividualcountry.Weareonespecies:human

-CanwecooperateingoodfaithwithourowncolleaguesonanInternationalleveltodevelopsomescientificcriteriaforinvestigation?

-Serpo:Canwecreateaplanetaryexchangeorhasithappenedalready?-WhospeaksforplanetEarth?

TravisWaltonSpeaks“IthinkthegreatestlackinUFOresearchtodayisalackofscientificmethodologyandrigor.Researchersshouldgettogetherinasummitanddecideonrulesandprotocolforseparatinggoodcasesfromthosethatarenot.Also,itshouldbeestablishedwhatmethodsarebestforinvestigatinganddiscoveringnewknowledgefromthegoodcases.”––TravisWalton(OUR-JMagazine,Japan)

Pictured:TravisWaltonpresentsBlackandWhiteawardtoPaolaHarris.

ItisappropriatethatIusethisquotebyTravistoleadintotheprotocolsforinvestigationplustheprotocolsforthecontactitself.TravisandDanaWaltonhavecometoRometwiceandononeoccasionstayedwithmefourdayssoIwasabletotalktoTravisonaninformalbasis.HeisthesameTravisastheonefrom1975,incrediblyhonestandunaffectedbyhisfame.Aftertheincidenthedidnotworkintheforestverymuch.Heworkedforanumberofyearsatapapermillthatmanufacturedwoodtrimandmoldings.Forthelastthreeyears,hehasbeenworkingatamillthatmakespaperfromrecycledpapermaterial.

Thethingthatimpressedmemostwashisabilitytoreallyreflectonhiscontactandlookatitinperspectiveoversomanyyears.Hisquestioningoftheincidentwithpossiblegovernmentinvolvement.Hesaysthatthe“twoblondebeings”tookhimoffthecraftdownarampintowhatcouldpossiblybeagovernmenthangar.Thisbringsupthe“theirstufforourstuff?”scenarioItalkedaboutearlier.Hethinkstheremaybesomegovernmentalinvolvementsincethehangerappearedtobeamilitaryhangar.

Travisalsosayshiscasewasnotsufficientlyinvestigatedinascientificway.Hehasaspecificexampleofthis.Travisclaimsthattherewasevidencethatthetreegrowthintheforestwasalteredinthespotwheretheincidenttookplace.Bymeasuringtherings,thetreesseemedtobegrowing30%faster.Tragicallythisisamootpointnowsincemostofthetreeshaveburneddowninaforestfire.Weresearcherswaitedthirtyyearstoolongtoinvestigatethis.

Ialsoaskedtheobviousquestion,“WhatwastheUFOdoingthere?”Iaskedaboutwhatwasinthearea.Dana,Travis’wife,toldmethattherehadbeensomenucleartestingontheNevadabordernearbyandsomeofthefalloutwasblamedfortherisingcasesofleukemiainborderingtowns.Sheaddedtherewerequiteafewcourtcasespendingbecauseofthis.Isitpossiblesomethingwasmonitoringthearea?IsitpossiblethatTravisrecklessbehaviorbygettingoutofthetruckinterferedwiththisandtheboltofenergyactuallystoppedhisheart?

Iwasalwayswonderingwhatthecrystal-likedevisewas.Itfelltothefloorwhenheawokesoviolently.Weretheyrevivinghim?Greysdonotusuallyexitgracefullywhenyouthreatenthemwithaflashlighttypeobject.Thereareanomaliesinthecase,anomaliesthatneedtobestudied.Itmaypaintamorehumanepictureoftheoften,cruelscenariointerpretedbyabductionresearchers.Theprotocolsforcontactcannotbeappliedtosomeonewhoisterrorized.Traviswastotallyterrorizedandinretrospecthemayhaveacteddifferently.

Itisinterestingthatwhenaskedhowhewastransformedbythiscontacthesays,“BeforetheincidentIwasopentotheideaofUFOsandETsbecauseofsightingsinyearspastbypeopleIknew––andevenmyself.However,IhadneverseenanythingthatIcouldbecompletelycertainwasextraterrestrial.Aftertheincident,IbecamemorecertainoftherealityofUFOsandETs.Somecraftarepossiblyours.”Hesays,“MyexperiencewassotraumaticthatIstillwishthatitneverhappenedbutIhavegainedsomeveryvaluableknowledgeaboutlifeandtheuniverse.”Ifthatincidentwasademonstrationofourtechnology,whatwerethetworacesofaliensdoingthere?Ifitwasahologramin1975,whatmessagesweregiventotheabducteesincludingTravis?Whoispromotingtheevilalienscenario?Allquestionsresearchersshouldinvestigate.Therealwaysseemstobeanuclearinvolvementsomehow.BothEinsteinandOppenheimerwarnedusaboutourdangerousnuclearinvolvementinthedraftdocumentof1947.Thesearegeopoliticalconcernsasaretheirpossiblemonitoringofournuclearcontaminationoftheplanet.

Thenuclearquestionhasbeenposedandintentionallyignoredbecausemostofusfeelwecandonothingaboutitaswesitpassivelyby.

SerpoandExemptfromDisclosureEntertheUFOCultureStevenSpielberg’sfilmCloseEncountersoftheThirdKinddepictedtwelveastronauts(somewere

women)whowereselectedtogowiththealienstotheirhomeworld.IsthisoneofthefoundationsforOperationSerpo?IsthealienExchangeProgramafabrication,orwasSpielbergshownthedocumentbyReagansohecouldincludeitintohismoviescript?Icannotignorethatparts,ifnotthecore,ofthefilmcouldbetrue.Weneedtoconsiderthecombinationofdisclosure“leaks”thisyear(2012)verycurious.ThereleaseoftheRobertCollins/RichardDotybookExemptfromDisclosureinconjunctionwiththeSERPOAnonymousrevelationsmakesonethink.Whatisgoingonhere?Howmuchdisinformationismixedwiththisinformation?ItwasBillRyan,in2005,whocounseledusalltoexaminecarefullythisstory;toseethatthiscouldhavebeenalogicalprogressiontothecontactoftheFiftiesandthegovernmentagreementsmade.Fortheopen-mindedresearcher,itisanopportunityto“connectsomedots.”ProjectSerpoisaterminufologycirclesreferringtoanallegedexchangeprogrambetweenultraTop

SecretlevelsinthegovernmentoftheUnitedStatesandanalienhomeworldcalledSerpo.ItisspeculatedthatSerpoisan(asyetofficiallyuncharted)inhabitedplanetintheZetaReticulisystem.ZetaReticuliisamappedbinarystarsomethirty-ninelightyearsfromEarth.Inthe1990s,itwasthoughtthataplanethadbeendetectedhereusingadvancedtelescopesbutthatwaslaterrecantedbyscientistswhostatedthatitwasmerelya“wobble”causedbyapulsar.Thishasonlyincreasedspeculationofacover-up.(www.serpo.com)

BillRyan,retiredAFOSISpecialAgentRichardDotyandauthorWhitleyStrieber(UnknownCountry)havealldiscussedProjectSerpo.ItisanallegedsecretexchangeprogramoftwelvemilitarypersonneltoSerpo(andanunknownnumberoftheirkindtoEarth)betweentheyears1965-1978.RyanexplainedthatheisaparticipantinaprivateufologyemaillistmoderatedbyVictorMartinez,andthatinearlyNovember2005,hestartedreceivingplausiblemessagesfromananonymouscontributorrevealinginformationaboutProjectSerpowhichRyanhassubsequentlychronicledonhiswebsite.BillRyanreportsonhiswebsitethatthereissaidtoexistatotalof3,000pagesofinformationontheproject,whichmaybebeingreleasedininstallments;includingtranscripts(withoriginalerrors)ofdebriefingaudiotapespossiblyconductedunderhypnosis.Accordingtothe“anonymous”source,SerpoisanEarth-sizedplanetwithapopulationofaround650,000alienbeings(knowninUfologyasEBEN).AnEBENwhoallegedlysurvivedtheRoswellcrashwassaidtohaveusedacommunicationdevicetosetuptheexchange.Ofthetwelvewhowentontheexchange,eightreturned(thoughallhavesincedied),onediedonSerpo,onediedenroutetotheplanet,andtworemainedthere.BillRyanbelievesthatthestoryhascredibilitypartiallybecausesomeofthephysicsappearstocontainmarkedanomalies.

Theninatimelymanner,thebookExemptfromDisclosuresurfaced.ThebooktitleitselfdescribesthestatusofclassifiedinformationonUFOs.Veteranresearcher,RobertWood,(MJ-12documents)reviewedthisbookandverifiessomefactsbysaying,“Therecordisunambiguous,powerful,andalmostunarguablethattherearemanyaspectsoftheUFOorflyingsaucerreportsthathavebeenclassifiedovertheyears,andthisisthefirstbookthatprovidesenoughdetailtoconvincemanythatwehavehadadeeplycovertinvolvementwiththeUFOtopicfromthebeginning.Thetwomainauthors,RobertM.CollinsandRichardC.Doty,supportedinpartwithdocumentsprovidedbyTimCooper,havepaintedwhatimpressesthisreviewerasanapproximatelyaccuratehistoryofthehandlingofthistopicinsidethedeepestconfinesofcounterintelligence.Collins,aretiredAirForceIntelligenceOfficerwiththeForeignTechnologyDivision,andDoty,retiredcounterintelligenceAirForceOfficeofSpecialInvestigationsagent,haveputtheirknowledgetogethertocreateanimpressivelycoherenthistoryoftheinternalandexternalrelationshipssurroundingtheUFOtopicintheUnitedStates.Theyidentifyspecificpeoplewithseemingaccuracyastotheirinvolvement,andbeginthestoryoftheirinteractioninthefallof1986.The

bookbeginswithanappropriatechronologyoftheinvolvementwithotherinterested(andusually“cleared”)people,followedbythedescriptionofwhohasbeeninvolvedwithMJ-12(theUFOmanagementprogram)fromthebeginning,supportedbyphotographsofthoseparticipating,manyofwhomareidentified.MorerecentindividualsthatimpressedthisreviewerinvolvedinMJ-12asof1986includedSenatorClaibornePellandDr.CarlSagan.TimCoopercontributeddirectquotesfromhisownfather,anAirForceMSgt,whohashighcredibilitysupportedbyacertificateofcommendationfromGeneralLeMayforhiscontributiontotheAirForceUFOProgram.

I,myself,readthebookandwasimpressedbytheamountofinformationbutdistressedbythedepthofthecover-up.Theintelligencecommunityenjoysseeingresearcherschasingtheirtailsinanefforttogettothetruth,atruththatishiddenfromus.ButastheHonorablePaulHellyerremindedme:Althoughitmaybeshocking,“thetruthshallsetusfree.”Wemustkeepsearching.

ProtocolEightOrbs,SpheresandIntra-dimensionalBeings

Weneedtocreateawaytocommunicatewithorbs,spheresandintra-dimensionalbeings.Weneedtoaccepttheexistenceofaninter-dimensionalreality.

-Sowheredoweplaceorbsandlightbeingsinourmentaldatabanks?-Whatnewcamerasortechnologiescanbeusedtorecordthem?-Dosomecraftoraliensfirstmanifestthemselvesaslightforms?

ThePhoenixLights:MassContactinPhoenix,Arizona,March13,1997

OnereviewofDr.LynneKitei’sdocumentarycalledThePhoenixLightssays,“Itiswide-rangingandinsightful,withsomeoriginalideasthrownintothespeculativemix.Intheend,whatismoststrikingaboutKitei’scoverageofthePhoenixLightsisthedeeplyspiritualsignificancethatmanyofthepeoplesheinterviewedascribetothephenomenon.Somedeclarethattheyhavebeenirrevocablytransformedbytheirsightings;theirmindsflungwideopenbyexperiencesthatseemimpossibletocomprehend.Othersfindmeaningandsignificanceinthesenseofpeacefulness,aweandwondertheyexperiencedatthetimeoftheirencounters,recountingdeepfeelingsof‘appreciationforbeingaliveandwitnessingit.’SincethisisanOrbphenomenaalthoughmanysawaboomerangcraft,weneedtoconsidertheimplicationsoftheseETsshowingthemselvestoDr.KiteiandherfamilyaswellashundredsofothersinthecityofPhoenix,Arizona.Why?

Pictured:OrbsatCSETIMt.Shastameditation.Dr.Kiteiherself,however,issurelythemostprofoundlyaffected,havingcommittedmuchofherlifeto

apassionatequesttounderstandherexperiences.“Ishumankindatlargeonthevergeofunderstandingwhatexperiencersofunexplainedphenomenahaveknownformillennia?”ShewritesinherbookaboutthePhoenixLights,“Arewenowmovingtowardsournextevolutionarylevel,thepositivematurationandspiritualadvancementofconsciousnessitself?”IntelligentLightBeingscanbeextraterrestrialvisitors.Theyrangefromglobesoflighttosmallgray

beings,toactualpeoplewholooklikeus.TheextraterrestrialculturehasgrownaroundthepresumedcrashatRoswell,NewMexicoin1947whereacraftfellontheBrazelranchsupposedlybroughtdownbythepowerfulradarthatwasusedattheWhiteSandsTestingFacilityduringtheatomicbombtests.ThecrashwascleanedupimmediatelyandpiecestakentoWrightPattersonFieldinOhio.Itseemsthatsixsmallgreybodieswererecovered,oneremainingaliveandtakentotheNellisAFBFacilityinNevada

whichtodayiscalledArea51.Overtheyears,manyhundredsandthousandsofpeoplesaytheyhavehadcontactwithextraterrestriallife.SwissFarmerBillyMeiersaysthatinthe’70shewasvisitedbytallblondblue-eyedPleiadians,whichleadsustobelievethattheCosmosisteamingwithalltypesofExtraterrestrialvisitors.

Inhisarticle“Mysteriousphenomenaareallaroundus,andwithinus,”SteveHammonsonOctober30,2005,says,“Millionsofpeoplearoundtheworldareinterestedinunconventionalphenomena.ThesesubjectsincludeUFOs,cropcircles,extra-sensoryperception(ESP)and‘remoteviewing’.near-deathexperiences(NDE)andlife-after-deathconceptsandsimilarkindsoftopics.Insomecases,modernscienceisstartingtounderstandmanyofthesephenomena.Emergingunderstandingofphysicsexplainsthepossibleoperationofsomeofthesethings.Theymayjustreflecthowtheuniverseworks,howNatureworks.Evenourmilitaryandintelligencecommunitieshaveinvestigatedthesesubjects.TheArmy,CIAandDefenceIntelligenceAgency(DIA)havebeeninvolvedinESPandremoteviewingfordecades.”

The“BallofLight”PhenomenainItaly

Pictured:JournalistGiudittaDembechandPaolaHarrisatunveilingofherrecordedinterviewswithfamousItaliammediumandpsychic“Rol.”Noticetheorbsinphoto.

BallofLight(BOL)TheaccountofAdrianoForgione,EditorX-TimesandFenixmagazines

HereissomestarlingnewinformationfromthefieldresearchIdidonJune26,2005,onthecropformationwhichactuallyappearedonJune24,2005,inMontegranaro(AscoliPiceno),Italy.

BeforeIlefttheformationat9p.m.,aftertwohoursofresearchontheMontegranarositewithmajor,Mr.GianniBasso,Itookalastphotowiththedigitalcamerabelongingtomyfriend,UfologistPinoMorelli.

Recently,whilescanningmyarchive,Iwassurprisedtoseeayellow-blueglowinglightinthepicture,behindmyshoulders.Ididnotnoticeitinthedarknessthatnight.However,itseemstobeeighttotenmetersawayfromme.Therewasnothingthere,nohouses,nostreetsorpassages,onlytherestofthefieldandsometrees.NobodyelsenoticedthepresenceoftheBOL(balloflight)atthatmoment.

Pictured:AdrianoForgioneinafieldatMontegranaro.Noticetheballoflightcapturedinthebackgroundsky.Inthecolorversionthereisaglowingyellow-redcoronaaroundit,confirmingtheanomalousorigin

andthehightemperatureoftheobject,incompleteaccordancewiththeusualeyewitnesstestimony.Iamsureitisnottheresultofthehumidityandwaterintheair.Theincrediblethingisthat,rightinthecenterofasoftcyancolorBOL,therearethefeaturesofa

child’sface,whichseemstolookatus(meinparticular).Idon’tthinkthisisanillusion.ThefeaturesofthisBOLareexactlythefaceofachildwithanexpressionofsurprise.ItisthefirsttimewehaveseenaBOLthatlookslikethis.WehereinItalyfinditincredible.

ProtocolNineGalacticDiplomacyandCSETIProtocols

Itisimportanttoestablishwhoisinchargeofformalcontact.Itmustbedoneonaplanetarylevel.

-CanworldgovernmentsunitetostudytheUFOphenomena?-Howdowechoosegalacticambassadors?-Howdowedevelopeffectiveprotocols,similartotheCSETIprotocols,andhowdowedoitwith

mutualrespect?ContactWithoutFear

PresidentRonaldReaganfirstdisclosedhisreoccurringthoughtsaboutanalienthreatduringaspeechattheFallstonHighSchoolinMarylandDecember4,1985,whenhespokeabouthisfirstsummitwithGeneralSecretaryGorbachevinGeneva.AccordingtoaWhiteHousetranscript,Reaganremarkedthatduringhisfive-hourprivatediscussionswithGorbachev,hetold(Gorbachev)tothink,“…howeasyhistaskandminemightbeinthesemeetingsthatweheldifsuddenlytherewasathreattothisworldfromsomeotherspeciesfromanotherplanetoutsideintheuniverse.We’dforgetallthelittlelocaldifferencesthatwehavebetweenourcountries.Unfortunately,withthewarsanddiscordsonEarth,itmighttakethisscenariotounitetheplanet.Buttherearethosewhodonotagreeastheyseethealienpresenceasbenevolentandbeneficial.ItisDr.StevenGreerwhodevelopedtheCSETIprotocolsforcontactand,sofar,hasbeenthemostrespectfulearthlyambassador.

Founderofthe2001DisclosureProject,Dr.StevenGreersharedsecretiveinformationabouttheETpresencethatcametohimfromcorroboratedsources.Oneofhisassociates,whoworkedwithNeilArmstrongatPurdue,saidthatArmstrongtoldhimthatoncetheysteppedoutofthelunarmoduleontheMoon,theywereliterallysurroundedbyETvehicles.Further,ArmstrongwasapproachedtobepartoftheDisclosureProjectin1997,butdeclined,overthreatsthathisfamilywouldbekilled.Dr.Greercommentedthatfearandintimidationhavekeptmanywitnessesfromcomingforward.

ItisinterestingthatintheEinstein-Oppenheimerdocument,thisstatementappears:“Nowwecometotheproblemofdeterminingwhattodoiftheinhabitantsofcelestialbodiesor

(EBE)desiretosettlehere.Theymentioniftheyarepoliticallyorganizedandpossessaculturesimilartoourown,thentheyshouldberecognizedasanindependentpeople.”

Ibelievethatthisappraisalistheonlyrespectfulone.Whatisinterestingisthattheysuggestthatasuperiorformofcolonizationwouldhavetobeconceivedifwe,asaplanet,donothavepoliticalunityandwedon’t.Thissuperiorformofcolonizationwouldcomeaboutwiththe“tacitapproval”oftheSupraUnitedNations.HeretheUnitedNationsisseenbytheEinsteinEisenhowerdocument,asaone-worldgovernmentsimilartowhatDr.Mitchellsuggestedwasneededforcommunication.ThesuggestionismadethattheUnitedNationsbecomeaSupra-nationalorganizationandvotetorepresentthenationsofEarthinthisnegotiationwithextra-terrestrialvisitors.

AmbassadorstotheUniverseProgram:ProtocolsforContact!InterviewwithDr.StevenGreerExclusiveInterviewwithDr.StevenGreerCrestone,ColoradoJuly4,2005Paola:Steven,whatisthefocusofyourcareeratthepresenttime?Greer:MymainfocusisstilltheCSETIencountersthatwearedoingnowlikethisoneatCrestone,Colorado.Buttherearedifferentlevelsofthis.WehavepeoplewhotrainpeoplelikeDr.Loderandhispeople.Thereareothersthatgetagrouptogetherandtakethemoutinsmallergroups,andhavedone20or30oftheseexpeditions.Theyknowwhattheyaredoing.Thebigtrainingslikethisof20or30peopleIdo.ThemainonesareMt.Shasta,CrestoneandJoshuaTreeWildernessAreainCalifornia.Thecorebasisofourfocusisthefactthathumansaregoingtohavetolearntocontactthesenon-humanbeingsinapeacefulwayandrightnowthereisnoinitiativeintheworldthatisdoingthisbutours.ThereareafewinLatinAmericathatsortofhavethesameconcept.Unfortunatelythepoliticalstructureshavenotdealtwiththeissueandthecovertprogramsaremilitaryandhardlydiplomatic.Imean,theyareactuallyincreasinglyhostile.Whatwearedoingisacitizen’sdiplomacyeffortandwehavelaiddownprotocolsthatareinterrelatedwithveryspirituallybasedandwebelievethatwearespirituallyconsciousbeingsandthereisthatonemindofthecosmosthatshinesineverybeing.Thisisthefundamentalbasisforhelpingtomakecontactandbecauseextraterrestrialtechnologiesinterfacewiththoughtandinterfacewithwhatsomepeoplecalltheethericorastrallevelofthings,wehavefoundthatwecanputtogetherprotocolsthatinvolveelectromagneticinstrumentslikelasersandBPsignalsusingthisconceptofsortofthecenteroftheUniversalMind.Inthatcenter,webegintoseeinsortofaremotesensingwheretheETsareandconnectwiththemmentally.Wehavehadamazingcontact;sightingsandeventhingshavecomerighttothefieldandwhathaveyouallovertheworld.Sotheconceptisaveryadeptonebecauseitintegratesthemind,thephysical.Paola:ThisisaveryspiritualplacehereinCrestone.Ithasanincredibleenergy.Therearemanyreligionsrepresentedinthisvalley.IsawaZencenterandanashram,andacenterofCarmelitenuns.Greer:ThereisabeautifulwhitestupawiththegoldontopauthorizedbytheDalaiLlama.Paola:YesIsawthat.Greer:Yes.AmbassadorJimGeorgefromCanadawasinvolvedandwasaskedtobuildthestupahereandhedidit.HeisanadvisortoourgroupandhasspokentoCanadianofficialsabouttheenergyproblemandalternativeenergies.IjustspokeinMontrealandtherewereoverathousandpeoplethere.IalsospokeattheUniversityofTorontoaboutthiscontactandmydesiretodevelopalternativeenergydevices.Paola:SoisthefocusofyourETcommunicationtrainingatypeofUniversalCosmicConsciousness?Greer:Yes.Youseethefundamentalbasisofbeinganambassadortonon-humanslifeforms,asIseeit,istheunderstandingwhatitis,what’sthenexuswhereweallhavesomepointincommon.Well,itisnotgoingtobethatwearehumanwiththosewhoarenon-human.Soitisthatweareconscious.Andso,IrememberMonsignorBalduccisaying“weareallchildrenofGod”butthereisthislightofConsciousMind,thisonespiritwithinusall.ThereisOneSpiritshiningthroughallofus,sobyrelatingtothatwhich,IfeelisveryimportantthatItrainpeopletodoistakepeopletohigherstatesofconsciousness.IamtakingpeoplewhoarereadyforthattoacosmicconsciousnessdevelopmentretreatinPalmSprings

inNovember,2005.WewillusemeditationtechniquesandthecontacttechniquestobeabletocenterandexperienceCosmicMindandthenremotelyview,usingCosmicMind.Wedon’tusethemilitarysystem.Itisveryprimitive.Ifweunderstandthatthemindisomni-presentandthemind,whereyouandIareawakerightnow;itisasingularityandwecansettleintothat“non-local”orexpandedreality.Youcanseeeverywhere.PeoplecomeontheseretreatswhohavespentbigbuckstryingremoteviewingandgetthesebreakthroughsinthreeorfourdaysbecauseIamteachingthemtostopandbestillandcenterourselvesandthenusesomespecifictechniquesthatIhavelearnedtobeabletoremotelysenseplacesanddistantdifferentobjects.Thistrainingisveryrigorous.AndIthinkthatpeoplehavetounderstandthatthefundamentalreasonwhythatisimportantisthatifyoudon’tconnectorrelatetothataspectofUniversalMind,thenhowareyougoingtorelatetonon-humanpeople?Itdoesn’tmakeanysense.Thinkaboutit.Theyarenotgoingtohavethesameemotionalquality;theyarenotgoingtohavethesamementalaptitude;theyarenotgoingtohavethesamefountainofknowledge;theyarenotgoingtobebiologicallythesame.Sowhereareyouconnected?Itisinthis“consciousmind”whichisthespirit!

Sointhiskindofworld,younotonlyhaveadiplomaticfoundationforcommunication,butyoualsohaveafunctionalparadigmbecausetheirtechnology;ithasbeenrecordedatleastinthe’40sand’50sifnotlonger,theyhavedevicesthatareelectronicthatinterfacewiththought.Theyarenotcommunicatingwithstellarsystemsinusingmicrowavesystems.Theyareusingasub-electromagneticsignalthatinterfaceswithwhatthemysticsusedtocallastralorthoughtenergyanditisscientificreproducible.WehavecovertprogramsintheUnitedStatesthatdevelopthesesystemsaswell.Paola:EdgarMitchellused“thoughttransfer”fromthemoonanditworked!Greer:Right,itdoeswork.HeandItalkedaboutthis.Everyhumanbeingisaquantumhologramofthewholeuniverse.Inotherwords,IlovethisSufisaying:“thinkyourselfapunyformwhenwithinyourselftheUniverseisfolded?”Itisarhetoricalquestion.Youarenotasmallthing.Withineachpersontheentiretyofthecosmicuniverseisunfoldedliterally.Andopeningtothatyoucannotonlycommunicatewiththeseextraterrestriallifeformsbutyoucanalsobegintorelatetoauniversalaspectofyourself.Soyoudon’thavetoreacttoxenophobicallywhenyouencounterthediversityofextraterrestriallife.Paola:Right.But,wealreadyhavetroublewithdiversityhereonEarth.Greer:MyGod,weareblowingpeopleapart.Wearespendingatrilliondollarsayearinmilitaryspending.Soifwearegoingtobetalkingaboutaseriousefforttobecomeambassadorstotheseothercivilizationsthatareobviouslyinvolvedwithearthandobviouslyconcernedwithwhatwearedoing,thenthoseambassadors,inmymind,havetobeknowledgeableabouttheuniversalcomponentofconsciousness.SoIfindthatgivingthisfundamentalfoundationofbeinganinterplanetaryambassadorishowItrainpeople.Thatisthebasisofwhatwearedoing.Alotofpeoplesaythatisveryfaroutbutitisactuallysimple;becauseifyoudon’thavesomethingthatyouareanchoredtothatisdeeperthanthehuman,animal,intellectualemotionalstate,thenyouarenotgoingtorelate,firstofall;youcanbarelyrelatetoanotherhumanfromanotherculture.LookhowdifferentanItalianistoaJapanese?Youaretalkingaboutdifferentstarsystemsandpeople,andsotobeabletotranscendthatlevelofdiversity,andthediversityisfineifyouareabletokeepthatperspective.Butwhathappensisthediversityoverwhelmsyouorthatbecomesacauseofconflict,whichiswhathumanbeingsnormallydo.Youknowsomeonelooksdifferent,thinksdifferently.Iftheyaregay,theyarestraight;theyareblack,theyarewhite;theyareArab,theyareIraqi;theyareSuni,theyareShiite;theyareProtestant,theyareCatholic;whateveritiswefindthatforareasontobloweachotherapart.Well,wecannotexportthatkindofthinkingtothenextstageofhumandevelopment,whichisthecosmicmoment.Thisisacosmicmoment.ThedeaththrowsofwhatishappeningonEarthtodayisthatthisdiversityisbecomingacauseforconflict.ItisreallyaspiritualproblemasIseeit.Now,Iamnotareligiouspersonatall,butIamaspiritualperson.

Paola:Butyouareoptimistic?Right?Youcouldgetrealpessimisticifyoulookattherealityofthis.Youaredevelopinganalternative.Greer:Veryoptimistic.ThewholethingisIthinkthatwehavetocreateaworldthatiscommiseratingwiththechallengesofourtimeandwehavefailedtodothat.Inotherwords,weare100or150yearsintothischapterofhumanhistoryandyetwehaverefusedtomakethefundamentalchangesspiritually,socially,politically,geopoliticallyandtechnologicallythatwouldsupportacivilizationcommensuratewiththistime.Forinstance,weknowthattherehavebeentechnologiesthatcouldhaveeliminatedworldpovertyandpollutionthatcouldhavebeenherefor75years.Theywentdeepblackinthe50s.Therealityisthatthehumansituationhasbeeninasense,retardedfromanevolutionarydevelopmentalpointofviewforatleast50to100yearsandthisiswhyweseesomanyimbalancestoday.I’moptimisticthatitwillbebroughtback.Butitisgoingtotakecourage,goodleadership,andsomesacrificethatwehadtofaceinourgroup.Itisgoingtotakesomethinkinginhowwearegoingtocreateacivilizationthatiscommensuratewiththechallengesofthetime.Therearemanypowerdynamicsworkinginthisdysfunctionalworldthatneedtobefixed.Paola:Youarticulatethatreallywell,Steven.Youareoneoftheonlypeoplewhohaveittogether.Imeanyousynthesizethisproblemwell.Otherpeoplehavelittlepiecesofit.TheyaretalkingaboutZeroPointenergyhere.Theydonotlookatthespiritual;theydon’teventalkaboutETcommunication.YousynthesizedthewholeentireplanetarysituationandofferedapossiblesolutionintheCSETIAmbassadorProgramofConsciousness.Yousaidyouwereworkingonthreethings.Whatarethey?Greer:CSETI,theAmbassadorstotheUniverseprogram,theotheristheDisclosureProject.WearestilldoingtheDisclosureProjectbecausewehaveawebsitewithtenmillionpeopleonit.Peopledon’trealizethatTheDisclosureProjectvideoreachedmorepeople,thanthosewhowatchCNNeverynight.IamstillmeetingwithmembersofCongress.Withinthelastyear,I’mtryingtosay“look,thisinformationexistsanditisnotonlyrelatedtoUFOsandextraterrestrials,butalsotoalternativeenergiesandpropulsionsystemsthatwouldsolvemostofourproblems.”AndsoDisclosurestillhastogoonandwehaveadisclosuresomeofthenewtopsecretwitnesseswehaveandgovernmentofficialsincludingaformerClintonadministrationofficial.Also,intechnologythroughtheOrionproject,wherewecanbringinscientistswhocantestifytotheexistenceofnewenergyandpropulsionsystems,andhowtheyhavebeensystematicallyacquiredandsuppressedbylargetrans-nationalcorporateinterestsrepresentative’sprogram.WealsohavedozensofpeopleallovertheworldwhohostDisclosureProjectscreeningsandmeetings.Sothatisstillgoingon.

WewouldlovetodoDisclosureII.ManyhaveyettounderstandthatafterwedidtheDisclosureProjecteventin2001,wedoubledthenumberofmilitaryassetsintermsofthenumberofwitnessesbecausetheycameoutofthecloset.Asamatteroffact,aretiredAirForcegeneralwhohasknowledgeofthesecovertprogramsisoneofthem.Theproblemisthatwedonothavethefundingtodoit.Wehavegottofindasourceofinstitutionalsupportandfundingtobeabletodothenextlevelofit,oritisimpossibletocarryforward.Thereisnofundingforanythingseriousandthisisthewholetragedyofthiseffort.Theyjustdon’tknowwhattomakeofit.You’vegottoconnectittosomethingmeaningful.Thefactisthatitismeaningfulbecausethereareenormousimplicationstothesecrecy,andthesecrecyisnotbecauseoftheextraterrestrialcomponent.ThesecrecyintheworldUFOmovementisbecauseofthetechnologythatwouldmakeobsoletealltheoilandgasandcoalpower.Ithasbecomeacarnivalandcaricatureofitself,yetwearedealingwithincrediblyimportantthingsandmyunderstandingisthattheintelligencecommunitywhichreallydoesruntheUFOsubculture,wantstokeepitthatway.NowwhatI’dliketodointhenextyearortwoisdoanotherlevelofdisclosurewherewewouldbringinmorewitnesses.Mostpeoplepost9-11reallydoesn’tcareifthereareUFOandETsoutthere.But,themajorityofAmericansdobelieveUFOsarereal.

ThelateastronautGordonCoopersaidthathehadspokento,then,SecretaryofDefense,WilliamCohen,aboutfootageofaUFOlandingatEdwardsAFB.Cohen,however,wastoldthatnosuchfootageexists,eventhoughCoopersaidhehadseenandhandledit.FormerCIADirector,WilliamColby,hadanETenergydevicethathewasgoingtosharewiththeDisclosuregroup,butjustbeforehewasgoingtodothis;hisbodywasfounddrownedoffthePotomac.SosecrecyistakingitstollanditistimeforfullDisclosure.

StevenGreerandIstronglyagreewiththehonorablePaulHellyer,whenHellyerstatedatthefirstExopoliticsConferenceinKwona,HawaiiinJuneof2006:“Evidenceindicatesthatthesurvivaloftheplanetasareasonablyfriendlyandhospitable

environmentisatstake,andthatvestedinterestsmaybeblockingplanstosaveitbeforeitistoolate.Evenworse,theMilitaryIndustrialComplex,thatGeneralDwightEisenhowerwarnedusabout,iscreatingandproducingweaponssystemsdesignedtoconfrontvisitorsfromspaceand,intheprocess,isproceedingtoasituationthatcouldbeasure-firerecipeforapossibleconflict.Onehesitatestocontemplatetheunknownandpotentiallydisastrousconsequences.Onlyanearlyandcompletedisclosureofthetruthcansaveusfromourfolly.”

Let’sChangethePrimeDirectiveTheAgonyandtheEcstasyofUfology:TheEmergenceofExopoliticsandGalacticDiplomacyasAcademicDisciplines

InthethesedayswhenthefateoftheplanetishangingbyathreadintheMiddleEastandthousandsofinnocentciviliansfindthemselvescaughtintheideologicalpoliticalstrugglesofthemajorpowersontheplanet,“someone”iswatching.

We,whohavebeenfollowingthephenomenasincethe1947RoswellcrashduringthetestingoftheatomicbombatWhiteSandsTestingFacility,knewsomeonewaswatchingusthen,assomeoneiswatchingusnow.ThosewhowereinthePacificcampaignduringthesecondworldwarknewsomeonewaswatchingespeciallyclosetotheIslandofTitinianwhiletheFrenchweredoingnucleartestingofftheHaoReeffrom1966-1969,themilitaryknewtheywerealsobeingwatched.Witnesstestimonyfromgeo-physicistGuyAndroniktellsushesawtwodifferentfly-oversofUFOsduringthattime.Inaninterview,Androniktoldmehewaspresentwhentheyscrambledaplanetofollowtheintruders.Allthissaysthattheymusthavebeenthewatcherswhohaveaprimedirective:Non-interferencewithaprimitivespeciesduringtheirevolutionaryperiod.Lookingatthisscenario,IbelievewehavecometoacrossroadsnotonlyofaggressionandwarbutalsoofacertaininsensitivitytotheevidenceofExtraterrestrialvisitations.Audiencesstilllistentospeakersatconferencesbutthengohome,haveafewbeersandswitchonthegame.Thereseemstobeade-sensitizationofthesephenomenabyourverylifestyle.Recentlyaclosegirlfriendofmineputitaptlywhenshesaid,“IdonotwanttoknowifthereareUFOs!Ihaveenoughtoworryabout!”ThisremindedmeofaverydiscouragingstatementmadebyaeronauticsheirJohnLearwhosefatherdevelopedtheLearJet.Inarecentinterview,hecommentedonthedisclosureeffortsofseriousresearchersinthisway:“T’wasanobleeffortbynoblepeople.Unfortunatelytheyhadnottheslightestideaofthe

ramificationsofwhattheyweretryingtodisclose.Intheirnaiveinnocence,theyassumedtheyweredisclosingtheexistenceofflyingsaucersfromouterspace.Whattheyfailedtorealizeisthatnoteverybodyisreadyforthatinformation.Probably99and99/100%arenot.Thatinformationwouldnothelpthemintheirdailylives.Itwouldnothelpthemraisetheirchildren.Itwouldnothelpthempaytheirtaxes.Itwouldnotprovidethemwithmoreincome.ItwouldnotprovidethemwithanewGod.AsamatteroffactitmightdestroytheirfaithintheiroldGod.Thosefordisclosureonlywantonething:theywanttoproveTHEYKNOWTHETRUTHABOUTFLYINGSAUCERS.Sodoalotofotherpeople.Getoverit.It’sanegotrip.Letgo.It’snottimeandwon’tbetimeforseveralgenerations.Relax;disclosureisnoneofyourbusiness.HaveasipCourvoisierXOandaCohibaEsplendidoandtalkaboutitamongstyourfriendsbutdon’ttrytogoonLarryKingandbangtheU.S.Governmentovertheheadwithaflyingsaucer.Theydon’tknowwhat’sgoingoneither.Haveaheart.”

Heisabsolutelycorrect!ThisisthepatheticstateofaffairsonplanetEarthin2006.Sosomeresearchersmaysay”whybother?Toaddtothisnegativepicture,afamousradiohostrecentlycommentedaboutBuzzAldrin’sdenialofhissightingUFOsduringtheApollo11MoonMission,andhesaid“againwedonothaveashredof‘realevidence’afterallthistimethatprovestheexistenceofUFOs.”MayIremindhimthatjustbecausesomeoneofthecaliberofBuzzAldrindeniesit,itdoesnotmeanallotherastronautsdo.Toaddinsulttoinjury,BuzzAldrininthatsameradiointerviewusedtheold“speedoflightargument”toexplainwhyETscannotcomehere.Withdiscoveriesincuttingedgequantummechanics,wenowknowthatnooneintheirrightmindacceptsthisargumentanymore.Thisstatementsetsusbackeons.IsittruethatwearenofurtheralonginacquiringproofafterBuzzAldrincautiouslydeniedhesawUFOsonthemoon?

OfcoursenoonewantstoexplaintheseveralfilmcanistersthatareactuallymissingfromtheNASAmoonfootageintheNationalArchives.OnlyRichardHoaglanddoes.Onhiswebsite,www.enterprisemission.com,RichardHoaglandisaddressingthismysteryshowingrealApollo11MoonMissionphotographs.ThankGod!In2006,RichardHoagland,StevenGreer,RyanWood,BillHamiltonarestillpluggingawayevenafterthenegativeJohnLearstatement.Butisitworthallthiseffortandmoneythatweresearchersputintodisclosurewhentheresultistotalapathy?MaybeitisaproblemonlyinUnitedStates.IcanonlywriteaboutwhatIwitnessedthisyear.

OnJuly22,2006,MUFONresearcherAlejandroRojas,passionatelyorchestrated“ColoradoBriefing”onthegroundsoftheStateCapitalinDenver,Colorado.InsidethebeautifulGreekamphitheater,DavidSereda,documentaryfilmmakerfromCaliforniaspokeofhisfilmDanAkroyd–Unplugged,Dr.LeoSprinkle,seniorprofessorandabductionResearcherfromtheUniversityofWyoming,spokeaboutcurrentabductionresearchandRyanWoodspokeabouthisnewMajicEyesOnlybook.WoodexplainedthattherewereatleastseventycrashesafterRoswellthatweredocumentedinhisbook.DenverpolicemanKenStorchspokeaboutDr.J.AllenHynek,theLonnieZamoracaseandofhisveryownsightingofaUFOoverColorado.Lastly,IspokeaboutthesigningoftheETCitizenDiplomacyeffortHawaiiDeclarationbyformerMinisterofDefensePaulHellyerandUSAmbassadorJohnMcDonald,aformidablecastofcrediblespeakersbriefingtheColoradopublicontheCapitalgrounds.ButmaybeJohnLearisright.Noonereallycares.Imustadmittherewaslittlemediaattentionwithapproximatelythirtypeopleseatedinthehotsunwhileperhapstherestathomeprefer“nottoworryaboutUFOs.”Wemayrefertothatas“theagony”ofthemanydisclosureefforts.Butstilloverhead“someone”iswatchingus!

Ontheotherhand,thereisecstasyinthiswork.Disclosuregoesoninthehighestlevel.JesseMarcel,Jr.wasjustof11yearsoldwhenhesawandhandledtheRoswelldebris.Hesayshisdadwokethefamilyupat3:00a.m.tospreadsomeofthedebrisoutonthekitchenfloortoshowittothem.HisfatherwasanIntelligenceofficerandcertainlyknewthedifferencebetweenexotictechnologyandaMogulballoon.Ironically,inarecentinterview,JesseMarcel,Jr.toldmehecurrentlyservesinthemilitaryandjustreturnedfromIraq.Doeshecareaboutdisclosure?Hecertainlydoes.Heseesnoconflictofinterest.

JesseMarcel,Jr.said,“I’dlikepeopletoknowwearenotaloneintheUniverse.Thesebeingsmayhavesurvivedtheirnuclearconflicts,butIamnotsurewewill.”

HejustwrotehisaccountofRoswellinanewbooktitledRoswell:ItReallyHappened.OntheothersideofthesamecoinisEdgarMitchell’stestimony.ItwasapleasurebutnosurprisewhenIheardEdgarMitchell,inSanFranciscoonJune7,2006attheInstituteofNoeticScienceslecture,whenaskedifhebelievedinUFOs,answerinthisway:

“Ihaveneverhaddoubtsthatofthemillionsofplanetsandgalaxiesoutthere,thatthereislife.Yes!IbelieveinUFOsbutIhadnopersonalfirsthandexperiencesexceptthatIhavebeenbriefedbypeople“in-the-know,”highlevelsuperiors,andoldtimerswhohadtheseparticularjobsinIntelligence.TheywerethereespeciallyduringtheRoswelleventandotherssincethenandtheyhadnodoubtintheirmindsbecausetheyweretherefirsthand.Inadditiontothat,IhadanopportunitytogotothePentagonwiththesequestionsandthentoamaninhigh-levelpositionofintelligenceandItoldhimwhatIthought;whatIheard.Hedidnotknow,buthesaidifthatistrueheshould“know”andhewillinvestigate.Mitchellcontinued;“PeopleknowIamontheBoardofNIDS(NationalInstituteofDiscoveryScience)andIhaveseenthatthereareeventsthatareverystrangeandcouldbeETrelated.CertainlyweknowthattheSovietshavehadtheseencountersandhavehadtheirAirForcechasethemdown,unsuccessfullyofcourse.AlsotheFrenchhaveputoutthe“CometaReport”wherehighlevelofficerstoldoftheirexperienceandaskedtheirgovernmenttotakeitseriously.Twoyearsago,BelgiummilitarymadetheirknowledgeofficialandthentherearestillthereportsoutofMexico.Sotheanswerisyes,thereisacover-up.”

Mitchelladded:“Youwanttoknowwhyithasbeencoveredup?Thatstoryisnottoohardtoexplain.Itgoestothe

mid-1940ssincetheRoswellincidentwasinJuly1947.AtthattimePresidentTrumanwastakingoverfromRoosevelt.TheArmyAirCorpsbecametheUSAirForce.TheOSShadbeendisbandedandCIAcameonboardinstead.Itwasnotquitesurethatanybodyknew‘whowasonfirst.’WhentheRoswellincidenttookplace,anumberofpeople,whomIknew,includingWernerVanBraun,werecalledtheretoinvestigatethis.Acommitteeofhigh-levelpeoplewassetupbyTruman.ItwasacommitteecalledtheMilitaryJointIntelligenceCommitteeandthereweretwelveindividuals,sotheabbreviationMAJICwasthenameofthisorganization.Althoughthenamehaschangedoverandoveragain,thatcommitteestillexists.Thatisoneofthethingsmycontactconfirmed.TherewasanExecutiveNationalSecuritylawthatwaspassedandunthinkingly,itwasgivensuchpoweroveryearsthattheyareaccountabletonoone.Evenpresidentsatthispoint,can’tadequatelyhaveaccess.OtherPresidentshavetriedbut,asfarasIknow,Eisenhower––andperhapsKennedy––wasthelastonetohavefullaccess.”

Thesewordsbroughtapplause.Forme,itwasoneofthoseecstaticmomentswheresomeoneofthecaliberofEdgarMitchell,Apollo14astronautwho,likeAldrin,walkedonthemoon,hadthecouragetoaddresstheUFOquestionpubliclyandaskforcertainopenness.

Likewise,formerMinisterofDefense,PaulHellyer,inCanadatoldmethatweneededtoknowthe“wholepicture”beforecountriesallocatedhugeamountsofmoneytoshootaliensoutoftheskies.Thefactthatheusedtheword“aliens”issignificant.Weneedtobegratefulforthesesmallstepsindisclosure.Theykeepusresearchersgoing.

Often,IamaskedwhyIworkinthisfieldforinformationgatheringanddisclosure?ImustadmitthatIamoftendiscouraged.

IdothinkoftheJohnLear“Whocares?”response.InsteadIrememberDr.J.AllenHynek,ColonelPhilipCorso,Dr.MichaelWolfKruvante,DrJohnMackandMonsignorCorradoBalducci,whoarenolongerwithus.

Likethem,Ibelievethefollowing:1.ItisamatterofNationalSecurityandweneedtoknowwhomwearedealingwithbeforeweshoot!Itisapoliticalorratheranexopoliticalconcernespeciallytofinancea“spacewar,”perhapsthenextwarWernerVonBraunwarnedusabout.2.Ifdifferentracesvisitus,theycouldhavearelationshiptousasahumanspecies.CouldwebeinseminatedfromtheStars,asmostindigenouspeoplebelieve?3.Ifthesevisitationsareofancientorigins,wemayneedtorewriteourtruehistoryandupdateourarchives.Thatwillbeessentialforfuturegenerations.

ThesearethreepowerfulargumentsforcontinuingUFOresearchbutthisbringsbacktotheprecariousstateofthisplanetcurrentlyatwar.AsifworryingaboutUFOswasnotenough,IrealizedafterviewingAlGore’spowerfulfilm,AnInconvenientTruth,thatwehavetenyearstoworryaboutcompleteenvironmentaldestruction.

InSanFrancisco,EdgarMitchellwhoalsosawthefilmsummeditupbysayingthis:“TherealityofthisandtheETissueisthatwehavenotbeenabletomovegovernmentatanylevel

inourcountrysoothercountrieswillmoveonit.I,frankly,believewehavefarmoreseriousissuesrightnowthantheETpresence.Ifthesecreaturesarebenignandthereareconflictingstories,theymaytrytohelpusout.Butitseemstheyaretryingtotakea“handsoff,waitandseewhathappensattitude”towardus!Ourmajorproblemissustainability,(survival)andtheconsumptionethic.AllofthesefacetsareabouttobefeaturedinbrandnewwaysandAlGore’senvironmentalglobalwarningis

thebeginningofit.I’mhopingthatwewillgetalltheseissuesthatarehiddenandimportanttoourwayoflife,openedup.”

SodoI,Dr.Mitchell.Let’shopesomeoneisstillwatchingbecausewemayneedtochangethePrimeDirectiveandactuallyaskforhelpfromthestars!

PossibleSolutionsChangingOurWorldview:InterviewwithDr.JohnMack“Weseekafreeflowofinformation.WearenotafraidtoentrusttheAmericanpeoplewithunpleasantfacts,foreignideas,alienphilosophies,andcompetitivevalues.Foranationthatisafraidtoletitspeoplejudgethetruthandfalsehoodinanopenmarketisanationthatisafraidofitspeople.”––JohnF.KennedyLastinterviewwithDr.JohnMackFlorence,ItalyNovember,2004

Pictured:Dr.JohnMackandPaolaHarris.Paola:Thankyou,John,foracceptingtheinvitationbytheveryyounggroupofGAUS(Gruppo,AcademicoUfologicoScandici)studentstospeakinFlorence.Canyougiveusanoverviewofyourcareerandyourstrugglesinthisarena?Canyougiveusyourperspectiveoftheabductionphenomena?Dr.Mack:SureIcangiveanoverviewofthe“socalled”abductionphenomenaandleadintoquestionsofhowdoweknoworwhatarethewaysofknowingwhenwearedealingwithsomethingthisstrange.Ialsowilldiscusstheimplicationsofthisandphenomenalikethisforourworld.IamapsychiatristandpsychoanalystandIhaveaspecialinterestinextraordinaryexperience.Paola:Maybeyoucanalsospeaktolanguageandhowweperceivetheworld.I,personally,prefertheword“contact”morethanabduction,becauseithasamorepositive.Dr.Mack:Thisistrue.Forinstancewordslike“abduction”andalienshapetheconversationacertainway.Theword“abduction”isoffintwodifferentways.First,itimpliesthateverypersonwhohasthisencounterexperienceistakenagainsthisorherwilllikeabductioninhumanterms.Italsoimpliesthateachpersonwhohasanexperienceisphysicallytaken;thewholebodyistakenupintoacraft,whichisalsonottrueinallinstances.Anotheraspectofcontactistransferringinformationtohumanstelepathicallyorshowingusimages.

Pictured:PaolaHarris,Dr.JohnMack,AdrianoForgioneandGildasBourdais.Paola:Soarethereparticularreasonsforthiscontact.Whatdoyourpatientsorexperiencerssay?Dr.Mack:Alotofthisinformationhashadtodowithwhatourspeciesaredoingthatisdestructivetoourplanet.ItisasifwhatwearedoingecologicallywiththeplanetiscreatingsomekindoflargerproblemintheGalaxy.Alsotheexperiencersaregivencertainskills,certaincapabilitiesthattheywerenotgivenintheirschooling.Forinstancetheymaydiscoverthattheymayhaveagreatartisticabilitythatcomesfromthiscontact.Alsotheymayhavebeengivenimportantmathematicalandscientificknowledgethatgoeswaybeyondanythingtheylearnedinschoolandyettheyaredownloadedthemostcomplicatedmathematicalformulasandwhenthescientistandphysicistrecognizethatthereistruthcomingfromtheseindividualsandsometimesmorethanthephysiciststhemselvesknow,theyrecognizeitasgenuine.Ihavepersonallyseenmanyexamplesofthese.Paola:Theoutsideworldalwayswantsscientificevidence.Whatdoyoutellthem?Dr.Mack:Aboutthequestionofevidence,howdoweknowthatthisexperienceistrue?Howdoweevaluatethesereportsandhowdowedeterminetruthfulness.Forexample,whenIevaluate,Ibecomeclearthatpeopleofsoundmindhavenoreasonformakingupthisstory.Itissurethattheydidnotgetitfromthemediabecauseoftentheyknowmorethanthemedia.Butthereissomethingmissinginwhatwehavetoevaluateordeterminewhenapersontellsusastorysobizarrewhetherhe/sheistellingthetruthandwhetherweshouldtakethemseriously.Butasyetwehavehadnocriteriatoevaluatethetruthofsuchencounters.SoIamworkingonjustthisandI’mjustbeginningtoestablishascienceofhumanexperience.Nowintraditionalsciencewhenweobservecertainphenomenon,webringsomeobjectivitytowhatwehavestudied.Butwhenyouaretryingtounderstandsomethingsoprofoundandimportanttoapersonyoucannotstandbackbutyoumustenter“into”theconsciousnessofthatperson.Sowhatthecriticswillsay“whatyouarelearningistoosubjective.”Hereistheproblem,ifyouaregoingtolearnaboutsomethingthisprofound,thenthelearningneedstobe“intersubjuctive.“Sostillthereistheproblemofdiscoveringthetruth.IfIsayitjustfeelsliketheyaretellingthetruth,thenthisisnotenough.Sowehavetostartwiththe“holisticwayofknowing.”Paola:Sohowwouldyoudescribethiswayofknowing?Arethesereliablewitnesses?Dr.Mack:Well,thisisclosetowhatweknowasintuitiveknowing.Itislikeaknowingoftheheartandaknowingofthespiritthathasbeenpartoftraditionalculturesforhundredsandthousandsofyearsbuthasbeenlostinthewest.IreceivedsomehelpinthismatterfromVaticanRepresentative,MonsignorCorradoBalducciwhostated:

“We,inthechurch,takethisUFOencounterphenomenaveryseriouslyandthereasonforthatis,thatthereseemtobesomanyreliablewitnesses.Inthechurch,wehavehadcenturiesofhavingtoevaluatemiraculousreportsbysomekindofcriteriaandsotheyhadtodevelopthenotionofthe“reliablewitnesses.”

SoIbegantoapplythisideaofthereliablewitnesstothesecases.Howdoweknowwhoisareliablewitness?Formycases,itnotonlyhadtodowiththefactjustthatthesepeoplewhoweretrustworthyreportedsomethingbutithadtodowiththepoweroftheircommunicationthatcameacrosstome.Iwouldexperiencewiththesepeoplewhentheywouldberelivingtheirexperience,themostpowerfulvibration.Iwasinthepresenceofsomethingawesomeinitsintensity.Theexperiencersthemselveswouldgivelanguagetothat.Theywouldsaysomethinglike“everycellinmybodywasvibrating!”Whenyouareinthepresenceofthat,itpassesyourjudgingmindandyoufeelitinyourwholebeing.Goingbackto“whatisareliablewitness,”ithastodowitharesonancebetweenthepersonwhoisreportingorsharingtheexperienceandtheclinician.Itmightbecalledadirectknowing.Youjustknowthatwithyourwholebeingthatthispersonistellingthetruth.Thereareotherexamplesofthis“directknowing”asdemonstratedwhenthetribunalthatwashearingtestimonyofthetortureinBosnia,andquestionedwitnesses.Thejudgesaidafterhearingthetestimonyofaparticularwomanabouthowshewastortured.”Idonotneedanymoretestimony;Icanjusttellthatitisnotpossiblethatsheisnottellingthetruth.Thatissufficient.”

Noweveryoneknowstortureexists.Thatisaccepted.ButitisnotacceptedinoursocietythattheseUFOencountersexist.Therefore,youneedtohaveevidenceofapatternofsuchsimilaritiesthatisshowingupinhundreds,ifnot,thousandsofcases.Oneoftheseexperiencersishelpingmeoutwiththisstatementshemadeaboutwitnesses.Shesaid,“Whenawitnessspeaks,allrecognizethattheyhavebeeninanotherrealm.Sincerityandtruthandpowerofspiritarejustasmeasurableasinchesandpoundsbutnotinthesameway.”Paola:Ithinkthatitisthecultureweliveinthatthinksallthisis“fringe”scenario.Itisconsideredweirdnessforthembutyousaidoncethatnotallculturesthinkthisway.Dr.Mack:True.Itisironicthatexperienceslikealienabductionencounters,UFOs,cropcircles,andnear-deathexperiencesarecalledanomalies.Inanotherwords,inourculture,whatliesoutsidetherealmoftheculturalagreementaboutwhatisrealiscalledanomalous.Therefore,ahugeamountofhumanexperienceiscalledanomalouswhenIhavediscussedthiswithNativeAmericans,andtheysayitisnotananomalous.Weknowaboutthis.Itispartofthehumanexperience.Paola:IhaveheardbothyouandDr.EdgarMitchelltalkaboutchangingouroldparadigmbutcallingitanewworld-view.Canyoudescribethisinwhatwemightconsiderexopoliticalterms.Wecertainlyneedtodosomethingonthisplanet.Dr.Mack:Aboutmatterofaworldviewandhowitworks.Ithasalwaysbeenreferredtoasaparadigmandithasmoreofascientificmeaning.ButIprefertocallitworld-viewbecauseitreferstosomethingbigger.Aworld-viewisthewayweorganizereality.Itisthewaywebelievethingswork.Inawayitislikeaninstrumentofnavigation.Ourworld-viewsarewhatholdthehumanpsychetogether.WhatIcametorealizewiththatHarvardcommitteewasthatIwasthreateningthescientificmedicalworld-viewbywhichtheywereliving.Whathasbeenthedominantworld-viewinoursocietycouldbecalled‘Newtonian-Cartisianism’orAnthropocentricHumanist.Itisaworld-viewthatputsthehumanbeingastopofthecosmichierarchyofintelligence.Thesimplesttermforthisis;thatwhichIcallScientificMaterialism.Inthisworld-view,matterandenergyistheprimaryrealityandthereisnolargerintelligenceinthecosmos.Theprinciplemethodofstudyisobjectiverealitythatseparatestheinvestigatorfromthematterthatisbeinginvestigated.Nowinrecentyears,thisview,whichhas

dominatedoursociety,isfailing.Itisfailingineveryimportantelementthattheworld-viewissupposedtoserve.Firstthereisahugeamountofphenomena,whichitcannotexplainnordealwith.Thereisnomethodofstudyformanythingsthatwearetalkingabouttoday.Secondly,itleadstoterribledestructivenessbecauseittreatstheentireplanetassimplyphysicalresourcestofightoverbythosewhoarethemostpowerfulandmostimportantcountries.

Thirdly,“scientificmaterialism”doesnotgivehumanbeingsanyrealsatisfaction.Itleavesuswithoutspiritanditleavesuswithanemptyfeeling.Becauseallithastoofferaremoreandmorematerialthings.Nowwehavenewemergingworld-viewsthataredifferent.Inthisworld-view,thereisintelligencedwellingintheuniverse.Thatexperiencewhichhappenstomyclientsisoneexampleoftheintelligencedwellingintheuniverseandthebeingsthathavecometomyclientsareanotherexample.Thecropformationsarealsoevidenceofthisintelligencethatistryingtocommunicatewithus.Alsoitisamodeloftheuniverseandusinitthatsaysthateverythingisconnectedwitheverythingelseandweknowthat“cuttingedge”physicsissupportingthisworld-view.Soitincludesnotonly“newwaysofknowing”butitalsoinvolvesaspiritualawakening.Thischangethatishappeningaroundusismetwithenmityandagreatdealofresistancebecausethere’sahugepsychologicaleconomicandpoliticalinvestmentinmaintainingtheoldworld-view.IwillgiveyouoneexamplesoftheUFOresistancebecausebooksbeingwrittenwhichdiscussthisnewparadigmarebeingcallednewage,pseudo-scientific,pseudo-centricinordertodismissthemas“out-of-hand”becausesomepeoplewhowritesuchbooksdonotholdthemselvesresponsibletoanyscientificstandardswhatsoever.Iwillconcludebyspeakingabouttheimplicationsofthisnewworld-view.Weseearoundusallkindsofforcesthataresupportingtheemergenceofthiswayofthinking.Peoplearoundtheplanetareopeninguptonewwaysofthinking.Groups,liketheGAUS,theseyoungpeoplehereinFlorence,arecommittedtothenewemergingparadigm.Howwouldthisplanetbedifferentiftheemergingworld-viewbecamebethedominantworld-view?Wewouldbeconnectedtoalllivingbeingsnotjustthosearoundus,andwithallnatureandspiritwhichwouldmakeitimpossibleforustotreatnatureinsuchanexploitativeway.Forexample,wewouldbeabletoidentifywithotherpeoples,otherreligionsandwithallanimalssowewouldnottreatthemjustasproductstoconsume.Withthisdeeperreality,wecouldappreciatethatweareconnectedtotheDivine,thecreativeprinciplethatwouldbemorefulfillingthanthematerialfocusthathasbeensodominanttoday.Soitwouldbegloballikea‘globalawakeningoftheheart’.Insteadofglobalexploitation,awordthatishasthatconnotationtoday.ImightaddtheopeningofthehearthasbeenafundamentalaspectofalienencountersexperienceIlearnedfrommydealingwithexperiencers.SometimesexperiencersgetinformationfromthesebeingsthatwearenotjustamenacetotheEarthbutweareamenacetotheGalaxy.Inconclusion,asthisemergingparadigmthisemergingworld-view,takeshold,wemightbecomemoreresponsiblecitizensofagalaxyinsteadofbecomingtheeminentmenaceweappeartobe!

Pictured:Dr.JohnMack,PaolaHarrisand“theGAUSkids.”

ThiswasoneofDr.JohnMack’slastinterviewsanditwasverypowerful.ThisphilosophyissomewhatsustainedintheEinstein-Oppenheimerdocumentwhentheysaid:“ItwouldbedifficulttopredictwhattheattitudeofInternationalLawwouldbewithregardtothe

occupationbycelestialpeoplesofcertainlocationsonourplanetbuttheonlythingthatcanbeforeseenisthattherewillbeaprofoundchangeintraditionalconcepts.”

EpilogueSo,HowDoWeSpeaktoaBallofLight?“Myfriend,Internationaljournalistresearcher,PaolaHarrisbelievesthat‘wearenotaloneintheUniverse’andthatwehavehopefortheevolutionofmankindintoapeaceful,cooperativespeciesworthyofjoiningothercivilizationsinexploring‘inner’aswellas‘outer’space!”––UriGellerAlienCommunication,RemoteViewing,ESPandPsychicAbilities

ThisbookiscalledHowDoesOneSpeaktoaBallofLight?forareason.Itaddressespossibleexopoliticalchallengesandprotocolsoffuturecontactandamongthemcommunicationwithalienentities.Itimpliesthatonecannotuseordinaryhuman-languagestocommunicatewithallthingsalien.

Inthisbook,IspeakofintelligentlightsphereswhointeractwithhumansandIalsospeakaboutthemysteriouslightspheresthatinteractwithelectricityasseeninCaroniainSicilywherethehousesseemtoselfcombustwithoutreason.Howeverthereseemtobenohumancausalitiesthatweknowof.

TheironyisthatIhavereceivedmuchcriticismfortheunconventionaltitleofthisbookbecausewethinkofETsintermsofgreys,nordicsandreptilians.Thisisnotalwaysthecase.TheUseofTelepathy

Therearebeingsamongusthatrangefromspheresoflighttothosecompletelyhuman.Theypiqueourimaginationandourcuriosity.ItisinterestinghowtodaypeoplearereadytoaccepttheABCFamilyTVseriesKyleXY,amajorhit.Seeminglyanalien,orperhapsa“clone,”Kylehasnobellybuttonandsleepsinabathtub.Kyleisa16year-oldboywiththemindofagenius.He’sfoundwanderinginthestreetswithnomemoryofwhoheis,orwherehecomesfrom.HeistakentoayouthdetentioncenterwherehemeetsNicoleTragerapsychologistwhoseesthatKylehastheseamazingabilities.Notlongbeforeshewantstobringhimhometoherhusbandandtwokids.WhilestayingwiththeTragerfamily,Kylestartstorememberhispast.Sixepisodesintoitslife,Kylebecamethemost-watchedoriginalserieseveronseenonABCFamily.Itdrewabout2.1millionviewersperweek,withcloseto800,000ofthosefallinginthedemographicadults18-49yearsold.MattDallasstarsintheseriesasKyle,whohasasavant-likeintellectbutisasnaiveabouttheworldasanewborn.Thereactionofsocietyisthenon-acceptanceandpersecutionofanyonewhoisdifferentandtheproblemiscommunication.YoucannotlietoKylebecauseheusesmentaltelepathy.Hecanreadyourmind.Ifoundthisistrueofsavantclairvoyantthirty-twoyearoldPascalRiolo,Belgium’smostsuccessfulpsychicwhowrotetheforewordtothisbook.Itisnothisreadingsforbusinessorforprivatecitizens,norhisspoonbendingskills,norhiscommunicationwithotherdimensionsthatimpressmebuthisabilitytocommunicatementally;toseethroughyouwithhisinstantknowing.YoucannotlietoPascal.Hecanreadyourintentions.

Iwastheonlyjournalistwho,inaninterview,askedhowheacquiredhisabilities.Hedescribedacontactexperiencethatremindsmeofthelight-spherethatactivatedafour-yearoldUriGellerinaparkinTelAviv,yearsago.Instead,thiswasBelgium.Pascalwasfivewhenheinadvertentlywasseparatedfromhisparentsatapicnic.Hefoundhimselfonabeachontopofacliffviewingthesea,despondent,andsoafraidthatheconsideredthrowinghimselfintothewater.Herecallsthathethenheardaclearvoicetellinghimnottodoit.Thevoicesaidthathewouldbeimportantforhumanityandthathewouldhelpthem.Whatwasthenquiteamazingwasthat,outofnowhere,aclassmatearrived––asmallboylikehimwhotookhimbythehandbacktohisparents.(Whatwasthisvoice,wherediditcomefromandhowdiditcommunicate?)Today,thisepisodestaysveryvividinPascal’smind.Heconsidersthisthebeginningofhisclairvoyantexperiences.Theuseoftelepathy,orpowersofthemind,isaseasyforhimasitisforKyleand,perhaps,for“disembodiedintelligences”whointerferewithelectricalsystemsand

self-combusthouses.But,whoisspeakingtotheminthisinter-dimensionaldialogue?

Pictured:UriGeller.RecentlyStanfordResearchInstitutephysicist,RussellTarg,wasamazedwhenthree-quartersofhis

audience,ataremoteviewingconferenceinRome,describedahiddenslidecorrectly.RussellTarghaswrittenseveralbooksonremoteviewing,consciousnessandnon-locality.

Thataudiencewasactivatedtobelievethat,withconstantpractice,theycouldhonetheirESPability.Peoplewanttousethissixth-sense,buttheydonotrealizetwoveryimportantelements.1.Thatyouallowmanydimensionalbeingswhohaveaccesstotelepathyintoyourreality.Becausetheycanreadyourmind,“youcannotlie.”2.Thatitcouldbeverydangerousforthemasseswhoareconstantlyfacedwithunethicaldecisions,immoralbehaviorandsubjugationtothepowersthatruletheEarth.Itcouldborderon“mindcontrol.”

Asthefamousremoteviewer,IngoSwann,whocollaboratedwiththeUnitedStatesIntelligenceCommunitysaidinhisbookPenetration“non-humanintelligenceswereonthedarksideofthemoon.”Whatismoreinterestingishesaidtheywerewellawareofhispresence.TheyknewhewaswatchingthemfromEarth.Thiswasobviouslyatwo-waycommunication.So,whoorwhatiscommunicating?

RecentlyataconferenceonMJ-12DocumentsinFlorenceItaly,whilespecialguestRyanWoodspokeabouttheRoswellcrash,twospheresoflight,oneintenselyredandonepulsatingwhitecrisscrossedanddartedaroundtheroomasaparticipantfeltcompelledtocapturethemonvideofromhercellphone.Isthereascientificexplanationfortheselightspheresorisitasimplecommunication?Whoknows?Weshouldnotruleanythingout.Somaybethereareintelligentballsoflightorlightbeingswhoaresohighlyevolvedthattheycantravelbetweendimensions.

DoCyberneticBrainsexistdevoidofbodies?Thisisthefamousdescriptionofthe“councilofnine”inPhyllisSchlemmer’sbookTheOnlyPlanetofChoice.Onpagefive,GeneRoddenberry(creatorofStarTrek)istoldbyanentitynamed“Tom”thatnineisacompletenumberbecauseitiswholeand“TheNine”aretheaeonswhichisintruthusedtodescribeaperiodoftime,aneternity.TheydescribethemselvestoRoddenberryasthehighestformofCelestialPower,spiritualdisembodiedentitiesformedfromDivinePresence.WeknowsomethinginspiredRoddenberrytocreate“DeepSpace9,”theStarTreksequel.

Ibelieveitisbecomingmoremainstreamtobelieveinmentalcommunicationandthepoweroftelepathy.Televisionshowstakenfromreallife,liketheeverpopularMedium,TheMentalistandthehit

seriesKyleXY,aswellastheincreasingpopularityof“remoteviewing”coursesdemonstratethatnon-verbalcommunication,ESPandtelepathyareavalidformofhumancommunicationwithcosmicculturesanddimensionalbeings.Theymaybeamongus:perhapsintheformofalienslikeKyleXY,perhapsintheformofdisembodiedintelligencesorspheresoflightwhowanttocommunicate.TheymaybetellingussomethingimportantastheydartaroundtheroominFlorenceoratopacropcircleinEngland.TheycouldbetellingusthefollowingascommunicatedinatransmissiongiventoPhyllisSchlemmerforthebookTheOnlyPlanetofChoice(page5).“Weimbueyouwithenergy.Weawakenyou,asyouawakenus.Wewishyoutoknowweloveyou.

Wewishyoutonotmakegodsofusorofyourselves.Wethankyou.”

Appendix:TheHawaiiDeclaration

HawaiiDeclarationonPeacefulRelationswithExtraterrestrialCivilizationsWe,theindividualsandinstitutionsparticipatinginand/orsupportingtheExtraterrestrialCivilizations&WorldPeaceConferenceinKailua-Kona,Hawaii,June9-11,2006;Areabodyofconcernedprivatecitizens,whoarepromotingworldpeaceandharmoniousrelationswithextraterrestrialcivilizations,Recognizingtheoverwhelmingevidencepointingtothepresenceofextraterrestrialcivilizations,andtheirgenerallypeacefulinteractionwithindividualsandgovernmentalauthorities.Inspiredbytheprofoundsignificanceforhumanityofsharingthewisdom,knowledge,cultureandtechnologyprovidedbyextraterrestrialcivilizations,Assertingthatextraterrestrialcivilizationshavebeenobservinghumanevolutionforsometimewithparticularinterestinhumanity’squestforlastingpeaceamongitspeoples,Notingthatextraterrestrialcivilizationshaveindicatedthattheabolishmentofnuclearweaponsworldwideisanecessarymilestonetowardpeacefulcoexistenceonearthandasaprerequisiteforopencontact,

RecallingUnitedNationsresolutionsconcerninginternationalco-operationinthepeacefulexplorationanduseofouterspace,banningatmosphericandunderwaternucleartests,andproscribinghostileactsonthemoonandothercelestialbodies,RecognizingarangeofinitiativespromotedbyprivatecitizensandcitizenorganizationswithregardtoextraterrestrialcivilizationsvisitingEarth,IntendingforthisDeclarationtobeusedasastartingpointforagreaterpublicdialoguewiththoseholdingsimilarordivergingperspectivesandinterestsconcerningextraterrestrialvisitation,Usingaconsensualdecisionmakingprocessamongspeakers,organizers,andparticipantsattheExtraterrestrialCivilizationsandWorldPeaceConference,2006,wehaveagreedto;Honorthefollowingprinciplesforestablishingpeacefulrelationswithextraterrestrialcivilizations:1.Weaffirmtheintentofhumanitytojoininpeacefulandcooperativerelationswithextraterrestrialcivilizations,2.AffirmsupportforUnitedNationsresolutionspromotingthepeacefuluseofOuterSpace,andsupportforUN,InternationalandU.S.Congressionalinitiativestopreventanarmsraceinouterspace,includingtheweaponizationofspace,3.Affirmthenaturalrightofallcitizenstohaveopencontactwithrepresentativesofextraterrestrialcivilizationsinallcases,andtoengageinnon-officialdiplomacy,4.DeclaretheneedforCivilSocietytodevelopacceptableprotocols(standardsofbehavior)withextraterrestrialcivilizations,thattheprotocolsshouldberepresentativeoftheaspirationsofallhumanity,andthatallnationsshouldworkinconcerttoestablishpeacefulrelations,5.CooperatewithextraterrestrialcivilizationsinpromotingEarth,CosmicandLifefriendlytechnologies,andencouragingtherightuseandopenavailabilityofthesetechnologies,6.Affirmourdesiretocoordinatetheearth’secologicalhealthandbiologicaldiversitywithextraterrestrialcivilizationsthatcanaidusinthatendeavor,7.Andexpressourdesiretowelcometheopenappearanceofbenevolentextraterrestrialcivilizations.

Pictured:TheHonorablePaulHellyer,Dr.MichaelSallaandAmbassadorJohnMcDonald.

ConferenceOrganizersandSpeakersMichaelE.Salla,Ph.D.(Convenor/Speaker);AngelikaWhitecliff(Co-Organizer);HonPaulHellyer(Speaker);ThomasHansen,Ph.D.(Speaker);JoanOcean,M.Sc.(Speaker);PaolaHarris,M.Ed.(Speaker);AlfredWebre,J.D.(Speaker);JamesGilliland(Speaker);RobertSalas,(CaptUSAF,ret.-speaker);MaryRodwell,R.N.(Speaker);NeilFreer(Speaker);ScottJones,Ph.D.(Speaker);PhilipCorso,Jr.(Speaker);DarrylAnka(Speaker);WendelleStevens(LtCol.USAFret.-Speaker);“ANewWorldifyoucantakeit”(Lt.Col.PhilipCorso)OfficialConferencewebsite:www.etworldpeace.comDeclarationOnlinePetition:www.petitiononline.com/ETPeace/petition.htmlConferenceSponsoristheExopoliticsInstitute:www.exopoliticsinstitute.orgKailua-Kona,Hawaii,June11,2006Copyright©2006ExopoliticsInstitute

RecommendedReadingThefollowingbookshelpedmeto“connectthedots”:The12thPlanet,ZechariaSitchinAlienRapture,EdFoucheBriefingsontheFutureLandingonPlanetEarth,StuartHolroydTheCatchersofHeaven,Dr.MichaelWolfCloseExtraterrestrialEncounters,Dr.RichardBoylanCosmicExplorers,Dr.CourtneyBrowneCosmicTopSecret,BillHamiltonTheDayafterRoswell,ColonelPhilipCorsoTheDeepeningComplexityofCropCircles:ScientificResearch&UrbanLegends,EltjoHaselhoffDestinyMatrix,Dr.JackSarfattiGeneRoddenberry:TheLastConversation,YvonneFernGlimpsesofOtherRealities,LindaMoultonHoweMilabs,HelmutLammerMiraclesoftheMind,Dr.RussellTargandJaneKatraTheMonumentsofMars,RichardHoaglandTheOnlyPlanetOfChoice,PhyllisSchlemmerOpenMinds,ClosedSkies,NickPopeOpeningMinds:AJourneyofExtraordinaryEncounters,CropCirclesandResonance,Dr.SimeonHeinThePathoftheExplorer,Dr.EdgarMitchellPassporttotheCosmos,Dr.JohnMackPenetration:TheQuestionofETandHumanTelepathy,IngoSwanSoulSamples:PersonalExplorationinReincarnationandUFOExperience,Dr.LeoSprinkleTheStargateConspiracy,LynPickettandClivePrinceTheTerraPapers,RobertMomingskyTheUFOExperience,Dr.J.AllenHynekUFOsAreReal,CliffordStoneUndergroundBasesandTunnels,Dr.RichardSauterUnorthodoxEncounter,UriGellerUri,AndrijaPuharichWitnessed,BuddHopkins

AbouttheAuthorPaolaLeopizziHarris(Italy,Europe,Vatican)isanItalo-Americanphotojournalistandinvestigative

reporterinthefieldofextraterrestrialrelatedphenomenaresearch.Sheisalsoawidelypublishedfree-lancewriter,especiallyinEurope.Shehasstudiedextraterrestrialrelatedphenomenasince1979andisonpersonaltermswithmanyoftheleadingresearchersinthefield.From1980-1986sheassistedDr.J.AllenHynekwithhisUFOinvestigationsandhasinterviewedmanytopmilitarywitnessesconcerningtheirinvolvementinthegovernmenttruthembargo.ShehasbeenaninvestigatoroftheUFOPhenomenasince1980.

In1997,Ms.HarrismetandinterviewedCol.PhilipCorsoinRoswell,NewMexicoandbecameapersonalfriendandconfidante.ShewasinstrumentalinhavinghisbookTheDayAfterRoswell,forwhichshewrotethepreface,translatedintoItalian.ShehasjustwrittentheprefacefortheItalianeditionofDr.EdgarMitchell,Apollo14astronaut’sbook,TheWayoftheExplorer.

ShereturnedtoRoswell,NewMexicointhesummerof2003fortheAmericandebutofherbookConnectingtheDots:MakingSenseoftheUFOPhenomena.ShedebutedhersecondbookinRoswellatthe60thanniversarycelebration.ItistitledExopolitics:HowdoesonespeaktoaBallofLight?ExopoliticalChallengesandProtocolsforFutureContactanditspeaksoftheOrbandLightSpherePhenomenaincludingthespheresseenduringStS-75NASAFootage.HerthirdbookExopolitics:AlltheAboveisdedicatedtoGeorgeNoory,CoasttoCoastAMradiohost,hasbecomeabestseller.Herlatestbook,Exopolitics:GatewaytoaNewReality,debutedinJanuary,2011isfilledwithcrediblewitnesstestimoniesinterviewsandspiritualsolutionstotransformingPlanetEarth.

PaolaisinterviewedinthevideoFastwalkers,releasedbySafespaceproducerRobertMilesandsheappearsinNewParadigmFilms’UFOandETdocumentaryTheDayBeforeDisclosure.HerinterviewofformerCanadianMinisterofDefencePaulHellyerhasbeentranslatedintosixlanguagesandiscurrentlyonYouTube.

PaolahasspokenthroughoutEurope(Ireland,EnglandSwitzerland,Spain,France,Germany,ItalyandBelgium)abouttheimportanceoffulldisclosure.Hernon-profitassociation,StarworksUSA,promotesdisclosureandExo-politicaldialogueworldwide.

PaolahasaregularcolumninX-TimesandArea51UFOmagazines;andhaswrittenforNexus,Australia;Explora;OpenMindsMagazineandotherpublications.

PaolalivesinRome,ItalyandBoulder,ColoradoandhasaMastersdegreeinEducation.Sheteacheshistory,photo-journalismandon-lineclassesinExopoliticsforDr.MichaelSalla’sExopoliticsInstituteforwhichsheisInternationalLiaisonDirector.OtherbookbyPaolaHarrisareavailableonAmazon.VisittheAuthorOnline:www.starworksusa.comwww.paolaharris.comhttp://www.facebook.com/PaolaHarris.AuthorEmailInquiriestomailto:paolaharris@hotmail.com