twitchell police interview transcript 08oct19

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Transcript Of An Interview

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Between Detective TABLERAnd

Mark TWITCHELLAt Southwest Division

08 Oct 19

File #08-137180

Tabler Testing Testing one two three uh nineteenth of October Sunday at two twenty-

three a.m. (Recording Stops)

(Recording Starts)

Tabler Mark? Come with me youre gonna have to wait in another room here. Just have a

chair there. Okay Mark now uh just to go through things like I mentioned to youthat Im gonna do a taped interview with you an stuff.

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler Theres my ID.

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler Okay so Im Detective Mike TABLER Police Service and uh Im here to talk to you

tonight because of the fact that you happen to be the renter of a garage that has

come to our attention due to a missing person.

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Okay. Now first of all can you please state your name for me?

Twitchell Mark Twitchell.

Tabler And its T-W-I-T-C-H-E-L-L?

Twitchell Correct.

Tabler Okay your date of birth sir?

Twitchell July fourth seventy-nine.

Tabler Fourth of July seventy-nine?

Twitchell Yeah

Tabler Okay and your address at home?

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Twitchell Is thirty Dayton Crescent.

Tabler Thirty Dayton?

Twitchell Yeah D-A-Y-T-O-N.

Tabler In?

Twitchell St Albert.

Tabler Okay And postal code there?

Twitchell T eight N four X four.

Tabler Okay phone number at home?

Twitchell Uh seven eight zero nine seven seven seven eight four zero.

Tabler Your cell?Twitchell Same thing.

Tabler Pardon me?

Twitchell Its the same number.

Tabler Same number?

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Oh okay alright uh no land line at all?

Twitchell No I use cell in favor of land line just for cost and convenience basically.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Good enough. And uh okay now the garage in question that were were talking

about tonight uh can you tell me the address of that place?

Twitchell Fifty seven twelve...

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell Fortieth Avenue.

Tabler Fifty seven twelve fortieth Avenue. And when did you rent that garage?

Twitchell I began renting it on September first.

Tabler Okay and you rented it September first?

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Tabler Okay uh now I understand that youre doing this with a company an and youre

doing some other things...

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler so uh so youve personally rented it on behalf of the gar.. of the company?

Twitchell Right.

Tabler And what do you call your company?

Twitchell Express Entertainment.

Tabler Express Entertainment?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Okay and I understand youre filming and stuff like that there.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Okay. And uh that and that was the purpose of getting the facility?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Mike YOUNG is one of your assistants and he has the other key?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Okay and there are no other keys out for that garage anywhere?

Twitchell None that I know.

Tabler Okay. Now the locks on the garage?

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Can you describe them? Now I know theres two overhead doors and one

pedestrian door on this garage.

Twitchell Yes.

Tabler The two overhead doors face I believe its north.

Twitchell I think so yeah.

Tabler Into the alley.

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler And the pedestrian door faces the house at that address.

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Twitchell Right

Tabler And uh that would be south. Now the house is rented by people separate from

you...

Twitchell Right.

Tabler who have no access to the garage?

Twitchell Correct.

Tabler Okay. And uh the windows are all blocked an the doors are metal an and uh

nobody can see in there.

Twitchell Right.

Tabler And its nobodys business what goes in there thats yours.

Twitchell We block out the lights so that during the day when were filming and were trying

to create a night time atmosphere that the sunlight doesnt get in our way.

Tabler Of course.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Things you have to do with uh production

Twitchell We try and control the light as much as possible.

Tabler Okay. So you rented this on the first of September?

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler And uh and youre doing some filming there.

Twitchell Correct.

Tabler Okay. Now what what have you been filming there have you been filming everyday

or whats been going on there?

Twitchell No the uh well most of my stuff is all pre-production uh I knew that I was gonna use

it as a location for filming so I started I mean basically I began looking for something

that was suitable.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell Uh in like late August.

Tabler Yeah.

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Twitchell So uh found that garage found that it was an ideal location it worked great for what

what our purposes were.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell And uh rented it the only time that we actually spent shooting in that place was the

last weekend of September.

Tabler The last weekend of September.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell We had uh an evening shoot on the Friday and that was for a couple of hours

actually at someone elses house was downtown it was shot in our condo. And

then all day Saturday was when we used the garage to film.Tabler Okay.

Twitchell So sorry my contacts are ....

Tabler Yeah (unintelligible) okay.

Twitchell but uh yeah so all day Saturday we used to shoot in that garage area and then the

Sunday in the evening we filmed somewhere else so yeah for that purpose its

actually just the one day that we were there for actual shooting. Before that uh we

were in an out throughout the month for production design purposes. Which wasbuilding our set pieces uh getting things set up in there power and that kind of thing

getting everything ready.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell So..

Tabler So you uh.... yeah what type of film is it or uh that youre shooting at this particular

time that youte talking about shooting at this uh like uh whats sort of film is it?

Twitchell Its s suspense thriller actually we did it its short film uh the total run times only

gonna be about eight or nine minutes.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell So yeah.

Tabler Suspense thriller?

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Twitchell Right.

Tabler Okay and what would you do with a film like this once youve filmed eight or nine

minutes.

Twitchell Uh go through the editing process uh I tried to organize it so that it didnt have a lot

of effects work to do so it wouldnt take forever in post production. But we edited

the film together and then submitted it to film festivals tried to get it picked up by a

distributor uh hopefully somebody will grab it and use it in some way. Or um its

also used as pitch material in order to develop television series or a feature film out

of it to convince someone that you know we know what were doing as filmmakers

and that uh we deserve to get money basically to make more material.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Its only interest is developing everyones career that way.

Tabler Oh okay yeah I just dont understand how it works here and uh ...

Twitchell Well you have to start from scratch your own way because in our industry theres

really only two ways to get in and actually do that kind of work. And one of em is

to either pay to go to a film school.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell And then graduate and come out and do it uh but usually that path doesnt take you

very far. Its kind of like more of the lower end kind o jobs. Im more interested in

writing, producing and directing and Ive only noticed after about three or four years

that I have been trying to get into the industry that the only way to do it is to make

your own stuff prove that you know what youre doing and then people start to take

you seriously. So I started making uh my first film was a feature.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Sci-fi fantasy film based on Star Wars content.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell Uh which is all completely a hundred percent shot now and in post production. Uh

Im working on a comedy right now.

Tabler Um hmm.

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Twitchell Which is a its actually a full-blown feature thats actually gonna have a decent budget

in the neighborhood of about three and a half million. And uh and just closing the

first round of financing for that at the end of this month and then were moving into

pre-production so we can finish off like casting a-list actors getting all that stuff set up

and just preparing to film that sometime in May or April of next year.

Tabler Really?

Twitchell So yeah its been a long process I started developing day players which is the name of

the comedy back in uh December of last year. And uh just I kinda put myself

through business school in a way...

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell to figure out what investors would want to see in order to invest in that kind of

project and built up all my blocks put all my ducks in a row. And Im just been I

mean even though working full time an a lot and a lot of times during the year in

order to pay bills. I still put in full time hours into the film to develop it because Im

just like you know uh tunnel vision.

Tabler Oh yeah.

Twitchell I want to get a career going so I got that whole thing developed and going uh and uh

pitched it to countless people uh playing one side against the other to get talent and

money to agree and come to the middle an...Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Now with the economic turbulence in the US its a little bit tougher, but Ive been

assured that you know its not gonna effect our deal or anything like that so.

Twitchell Umm...

Tabler First rounds supposed to be finished at the end of this month and then sometime

within the next three or four weeks after that uh were given the full budget and so

that we can actually move forward in making this thing. And uh we like myco-producer works out of Los Angeles and hes done things like Oceans Eleven and

Old School an and worked on these things and uses his connections to help us out.

An hopefully along those lines we can try to get a distribution deal with Warner

Brothers and skip some of the red tape that usually comes along with trying to go in

their front door and get hit by all their gatekeepers which are....

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Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell designed to keep people out basically so it its tough its really hard but its very

worth it I love what I do...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell and uh you know.

Tabler Well obviously youre very passionate about it.

Twitchell Well yeah I love it love filmmaking I figured that out back in two thousand five when

I first started writing my first script.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell And uh from the first say that I stepped on a set ...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell in August of oh six that was when I knew and then I was just like theres no going

back.

Tabler No.

Twitchell Anything else is crap, you know.

Tabler Right.

Twitchell Nothing else would make me feel fulfilled in what I was doing.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell and I love what I do so I just chased it with everything I had.

Tabler Neat. Now uh so getting back here the only person that woulda had access is Mike

YOUNG or yourself.

Twitchell Uh hmm.

Tabler To that place.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Now tonight you were asked to go down there and meet our constables at the...

Twitchell Yes.

Tabler uh garage and thats because they were looking for a missing person.

Twitchell Yeah.

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Tabler Okay and uh you were contacted you were apparently at home ...

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler in St Albert which is quite a distance from this and yet you readily responded down

to help the police...

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler and...

Twitchell Yeah,

Tabler and um we certainly appreciate that. Now uh you arrived at the garage and you

noted something immediately uh on your arrival when you went up to the to the

door to to show the police the uh garage.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler And what was that?

Twitchell Well the first thing that happened I drove and I parked in the back where I usually

parked I actually the constable was calling me an I was about a minute out to get

there.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell And uh talked to him an said yeah so like where are you and hes in the back so I

went to meet him an whoa one second that might be my wife...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell shes I been keeping her busy.

Tabler Oh.

Twitchell Yeah thats her Ill let her leave a voicemail . Theres...

Tabler Alright...

Twitchell shes gonna be up anyways so anyway um yeah so I get into the back and Im like

okay well lets go check it out so I get to the actual gate side gate there. And they

mentioned that it had been blocked off somehow I didnt know what that was about

I opened it there was nothing there so they said okay well ...

Tabler Right..

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Twitchell guess its not uh its a little off but went uh down the side of the garage came back

round looked at the the door itself and the first thing that I noticed upon looking a

little closer at it light wasnt that great but I could see what was going on the padlock

didnt look familiar to me.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell And uh I I was the one that actually put the latch on the door.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell And I had a padlock previously and it wasnt the same one the one that I had was like

silver on the outside with a black plastic dial in the centre.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell And this one was just all metal.Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So I ...

Tabler So you noticed a different padlock?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler And and that on the door.

Twitchell Right.

Tabler Now what other locks are there on that door? Can you describe them?

Twitchell Theres also a deadbolt.

Tabler A deadbolt?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler And a...

Twitchell Pretty standard lock.

Tabler Yeah. And is there another type of uh lock or handle or ?

Twitchell No just the doorknob but I dont think the doorknob locks. Ive never tried but I

dont think it does.

Tabler Okay so regular doorknob, deadbolt.....

Twitchell Um hmm.

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Tabler and then a padlock.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Okay and the padlock was the uh padlock through it was through a um latch of some

sort.

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler would be yeah that would hold the door closed...

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler and locked. And that was the same but the lock itself was different.

Twitchell Correct.

Tabler Now okay you said that you were there the week last weekend of September and

that was the only time you were shooting there?

Twitchell Yeah that was the only time we had a full crew and cast an....

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell filming.

Tabler So thats the last weekend of September.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler And and then were up to the nineteenth of October here uh so thats just about

three weeks eh?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Yeah. Cuz you were filming through the weekend then eh?

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Yeah and were in the weekend now so um so just about three weeks since you and

thats the only filming that youve done. Have you been back there since that

filming?

Twitchell Yeah a couple of times.

Tabler Yeah when was that?

Twitchell Uh lets see I went back uh I dont remember the exact date but I went back uh one

time because we had like a table saw and a bunch of tools that were there. And uh

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my dad stores that stuff in his garage so I told him you know what come meet me

well load it up and get rid of it. So went over there and met him after work one

day and he loaded that stuff up and took it home. Um the next time was when I

was taking delivery of a uh steel drum I was using as garbage can basically so...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell um had some issues with them in terms of delivering it the company kept missing the

day or saying that they were gonna be there at a certain time and werent. And so I

was just like frustrated I called em and said okay well call me like an hour before you

get there well meet so they did. We went to the location dropped the drum off uh

so that was that part and then last Friday ....

Tabler Last Friday?

Twitchell Was when I went there just to clean everything up get the basic garbage outta there

and stuff like that. There was still like a box of bottles and stuff like that things that

had been there previously renting the place that had just never got around to getting

rid of.

Tabler Uh huh.

Twitchell But uh just getting some stuff outta there um that was.

Tabler When you say last Friday do you mean the one just passed and I mean were now its

Sunday morning, right?

Twitchell Oh no it was a week ago.

Tabler A week ago?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler So today being the nineteenth it would a been like probably about ...

Twitchell Twelfth.

Tabler the twelfth? Yeah.

Twitchell Right todays the nineteenth todays Sunday right?

Tabler Oh yeah.

Twitchell So the..

Tabler Yeah.

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Twitchell Friday before this Friday..

Tabler So probably about the tenth.

Twitchell Yeah. Cell phone check the calendar.

Tabler Yeah yeah Ill let you do that I dont have a calendar to do that with.

Twitchell Ah calendar.

Tabler But the tenth sounds about right.

Twitchell Um yeah the tenth thats what it was.

Tabler Okay so Friday the tenth you go down there and clean the place up?

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler And thats the last time you were there?Twitchell I think so.

Tabler Cuz Im wondering if thats when you last saw your padlock on the door?

Twitchell (Unintelligible) police to get in so I one of my problems is (Unintelligible) theres

also issues with uh remembering tasks to do so I live on lists. I try to formulate a list

as long as I have a list and I can check things off as Im doing em.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell But I mean (laughs) so I need to stay organized Im a procrastinator stuff like that so

um I did I think I did drop off and I obviously I dont remember if it was this past

week or the week before it. But I remember dropping off some cleaning materials

just for the next time when we were gonna go in there cuz my intention again was to

pitch this thing and get it into a TV series or a a movie and uh the place is so

inexpensive to rent . I figured you know what for future episodes thatd be great to

have so yeah.

Tabler What does it cost ya?

Twitchell Hundred seventy-five a month. Its not bad at all.

Tabler A hundred and seventy-five bucks a month?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler For the garage?

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Twitchell Um hmm. Im looking around prior to that it was looking at prices of two

twenty-five two-fifty for something similar..

Tabler Really?

Twitchell So I thought well its not bad its plenty of space it has power so we can run all of

our cameras and lights and everything off of it .

Tabler Really?

Twitchell Last time we were there we had such nightmares oh yeah like renting just really bad

lighting kits that would burn out bulbs all the time stuff like that but we never had

any issues with the breakers or the power in the place uh everything worked fine

so....

Tabler Well thats alright.

Twitchell And its a great workshop too its better than trying to borrow other peoples places

to do stuff.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So yeah.

Tabler So youre saying that youve worked sometimes fulltime and then ...

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler geared yourself for this. Where do you work when youre working full time?

Twitchell Uh I was working basically corporate sales jobs for the most part uh ...

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell you know its the kind of thing like Ill when I do work full time I work for someone

else I try to find something that Ill enjoy.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Usually technolo...technology related like I worked for Telus...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell selling uh wireless gear for them an that was fun.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So did that stuff but um yeah something where I can have like a bit of passion for that

and actually feel like what Im contributing is what Im getting out of it.

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Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So usually why I work on commission because uh I feel like the more work I put in

the more reward Ill get out of it.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Thats uh usually what I do so I found like Ive got a really good natural flair for it.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell I do that kind of thing if I need to be working or paying bills an that kind of thing Im

a little bit more discerning when it comes to that stuff I try not to get involved in

something that Im only gonna be in for a short period of time.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Um jobs in the last couple years that uh anything where I had to leave or uh anythinglike that it was always just because there wasnt the right fit.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell You usually find that out pretty early on.

Tabler Yeah so you been working in that type of thing. When was the last time you

worked at a job like that?

Twitchell Uh last time was the end of May.

Tabler The end of May. So since then you been working at getting your production going?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Okay and your wife I understand uh is employed?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler But on maternity leave?

Twitchell Correct.

Tabler Okay so youve got some income there.

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler To supplement and uh and and where do you get the money for the production and

for the rental and all that sort of stuff?

Twitchell Its uh investors.

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Tabler Investors?

Twitchell Yeah what I we sell equity in the film so theyll if I have a budget worked out then I

need so much money to make the movie. What they do is put that money forward

into the film in exchange for percentage of ownership of the project.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So usually we split it fifty-fifty the production company, thats me, making the movie

uh gets half of ownership of the movie and investors putting up the money get the

other half.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell So then once it gets distributed, goes into the theaters, gets on home video, starts

making money we split all that fifty-fifty. Once weve recovered the budget.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So yeah and then in well in the meantime I mean you know stuff like that takes a year

or two at least to come through.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So in the meantime Im living off of uh producer fees which are about ten percent of

whatever the project is.

Tabler Yeah. Okay and uh who do you have for investors on this film?

Twitchell Oh uh lets see ones that are involved in Day Players so far uh my brother-in-law

Travis BARRISH uh I got a guy named John PINSENT who uh has his own chartered

accounting company here. He uses ...

Tabler John PINSENT? Yeah?

Twitchell Yeah I think hes a member of the Venture Alberta Group which is a big group of

guys who just move money around and invest in different deals and stuff like that.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell And uh I first got in touch with them going to actually it was through the internet uh

found them online submitted my materials. Didnt really think Id get anything out of

it but then I got a call back saying you know what you (Unintelligible) screening lets

go and present this to like four groups of investors in Edmonton and Calgary . And

so I made my pitch about the film and put some interest in with it uh the deal

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structure underwent a couple of changes throughout the time that it was floating

around within their circle. And then uh when I recently got approved for a GAP

financing program uh I was able to actually offer them a situation where they werent

taking on any risk.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Its quite quite rare for investors so that looked really good and thats when

everybody was like oh okay Im in.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Cuz what theyre essentially doing is lending us ten percent of our budget in a short

term in order to get the full one opened in a line of credit. And then when it comes

through we get our full budget those guys get paid back right away and then uh we

dont miss the money because its comes back to us in the form of an Alberta Film

Fund uh government grant.

Tabler Oh yeah so you have got these investors and now youve already got this

government grant thats come through?

Twitchell The grants been approved already uh we were prime candidate because the Alberta

Film Fund they really like Albertan held projects Albertan talent ...

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell in front and off the screen uh theyre really you know they get involved with that

kind of stuff and I actually know a guy who has a business degree and is really good at

writing grant proposals and getting approved for them.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell Really good track record whos gonna write the proposal for us. The fact that

were shooting eighty percent of it in Alberta with very tiny (Unintelligible) like LA

and New York.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Uh just you know it goes to show them that yeah were keeping it all in province as

much we can using as much Albertan talent in fact, the two leads are Albertan so uh

were looking really good on that front. Its just a matter of showing them that were

coming to the table with what we need to make the movie and get it distributed.

And then they say okay well reimburse you for up to twenty percent of everything

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you spend inside the province which for us is a little over four hundred thousand

bucks.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell So if the investors put up the three hundred fifty thousand to open up our gas get

our budget and put it in the bank we pay them back right away Alberta film fund

comes in and fills the whole.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell Thats probably ...

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell lot a homework lot a research to get done but...

Tabler Oh yeah.

Twitchell Its its a beautiful deal structure it works for everybody uh Im only giving up ten

percent more ownership that I wouldve been getting out there on my own with no

back end support that way.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So the fact that I can get this done a lot faster and a lot easier by using somebody

elses credit rating thats why not ...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell you know what thats fine it its a matter of kind a time versus ownership but Im not

gonna sit on this for five years and wait for it to happen you know what I mean?

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell This is like goals that are set up so...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell an everybody whos helped me on Star Wars has been so great.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Like Ive got so many people who have donated countless hours of time and energy

and resources into that that uh and theyve done it all for free and I just I wanna pay

em back. I want to give em a nice cushy budgeted project to come in on and work

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on and get paid on and work on and get paid on get career experience actually get

paid for doing what they were doing before.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Only a little bit less because instead of having on person do eight jobs on a no budget

ending.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Each person could focus on their one thing on the feature and were good so.

Tabler Well good.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Yeah its interesting how that all comes together.

Twitchell Cant get me started on this stuff I can go for hours.

Tabler (Over talk) yeah okay.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Now uh so back again so were talking about back at the garage.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler And youre saying that the tenth was the last time that you were at the garage.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler And you can say that absolutely for sure?

Twitchell Ummm....no I it was either a couple of days before or a couple of days after that I

dropped off some cleaning stuff it was like a Tuesday Wednesday something like

that?

Tabler Tuesday or Wednesday ...

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler you dropped off some cleaning stuff?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Now whens your next plan to shoot there?

Twitchell Uh its undecided yet.

Tabler Not decided yet? Yeah.

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Twitchell Its still up in the air.

Tabler So theres no nothing planned for that garage? You live in St Albert?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Youd be concerned about dropping off a few cleaning supplies there at the garagewhen nobody else is there sometime between that weekend and it had to be done

right away?

Twitchell Well not necessarily right away. The way that that I do it again is on a list so I

wouldve had like a line a long list of line items of stuff that Im getting done that day

an it just happened to be one of em.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell So its like a stop off drop it off then go.Tabler Now what sort of cleaning supplies would you have at that place then?

Twitchell Uh paper towels uh like stain cleaner gloves the usual stuff just cuz we deal with this.

When you do anything thats involving uh like suspense thrillers or anything like that

I mean you want to have something that looks like blood on the screen.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell You use this mix thats like a corn syrup with uh food coloring in it..

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell Cuz it it looks really good on camera it has the right consistency and everything but

its sticky as hell.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Gets everywhere and its a nightmare and last time got all over the chair got all over

the floor its like ridiculous.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So and uh that was really my (Unintelligible)cuz then everybodys grabbing stuff and

moving it over and every time they do they rub up against it and get it all over their

clothes an its sticky and annoying so its just a matter o keeping that stuff off of there

and cleaning?

Tabler Yeah.

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Twitchell Not having to deal with that cuz we spend the problem with an untested effect uh

this thing where we were uh the achieved shot with running a sword through a guy

who was sitting in a chair.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell And so the way we did it is we just had like the actor sitting in the chair then the

other actor pretending to hold the sword.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell In em and then we go back lock the camera off it hasnt moved shoot this where we

take the same color shirt that the guy in the chair was wearing. Uh put like a um zip

lock bag full of this corn syrup there and then just you know phoom put the the

blade through it so that it comes out with the corn syrup on there dripping an....

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Then they have to digitally take that put it on to our original shot so it looks like its

coming through the guy realistically and uh its this complex setup and we spent like

two three hours on that one thing cuz we hadnt actually tested it before or set it

up prior.

Tabler Yeah ...

Twitchell So...

Tabler Oh yeah.

Twitchell I mean its kinda like learn trial by fire and figure it out as your goin along but..

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell It turned out really good ..

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell and I think itll look good once its all done so.

Tabler Sounds kinda unique.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler I mean yeah

Twitchell But its a huge mess too like (Unintelligible) dripping stuff everywhere you kind of try

to curb it as much as you can but ...

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Twitchell Thats really freaky too and as soon as they called me on the phone as soon as

Maxwell called me an said that you know this is whats going on I got this weird chill.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Cuz it just doesnt sit right so the first thing I start asking myself is who all knows

about what we do there and what our schedule looks like and stuff like that and if we

we have a shooting schedule usually theres a bunch a people in and out of there to

prep leading up to it and then we shoot something there and then thats it. Until we

announce something else theres no fixed activity.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell So uh...

Tabler So who would have access to get things set up?

Twitchell Uh itd be me and anybody else that had a key so basically uh for this instance it was

me Mike and Jay.

Tabler And Jay whos Jay youve mentioned Mike before...

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler no Jay.

Twitchell Jason Howatson.

Tabler Jason Howatson.

Twitchell Um hmm

Tabler How do you spell his last name?

Twitchell H-O-W-A-T-S-O-N.

Tabler Okay Jason Howatson.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler How olds Jason?

Twitchell Uh twenty-eight .

Tabler Now you know him and Mike from before?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler How long?

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Twitchell Couple years.

Tabler Couple years? How olds Mike?

Twitchell Uh think Mikes turning thirty.

Tabler So thirty years.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler So they would have had access but the only one that had a key was Mike?

Twitchell Um hmm. Well passes back and forth between them.

Tabler And these two would maybe pass it back and forth?

Twitchell Yeah. Ive been trying to uh hook up with Mike cuz I owed those like a couple

hundred bucks for materials for production design and uh were trying to figure a

time to meet to do that. And also to get the key back from them and stuff like that

and he said you know hey if youre on if youre on if youre around the south

sometime Saskatchewan Drive drop by and but he always like lets me know basically

an hour before the timing would be. And its too short of notice.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So weve missed each other up until now.

Tabler Okay well when was that?

Twitchell Well I mean today like uh but we kept just back and forth and missing one another.

Tabler Oh you and you and Mike...

Twitchell trying to get together.

Tabler connected today?

Twitchell No uh we tried to not well not today. The guy operates entirely on text message

theres not actual calling and talking to him so like...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell you know hell text me and say Im gonna be in St Albert around this time if youre

gonna be there I can drop by. And uh no Ill be like now is no good were gonna be

gone something like that.

Tabler Yeah.

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Twitchell And so uh but uh the last time that I actually talked to him was I think it was the

twelfth I was checking before because Ive still got some of his incoming text

messages he was uh I had some (Unintelligible) tickets I was gonna sell him. It was

on the fifteenth.

Tabler Fifteenth?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler On the fifteenth you met with him?

Twitchell Uh no just texted back and forth.

Tabler Just texted back and forth?

Twitchell We never actually go back together.

Tabler Were you on the south side on the fifteenth?

Twitchell Tell her again. (Unintelligible) on the fourteenth or the fifteenth?

Tabler And what would you have been on the south side for?

Twitchell That would a been for dropping off the cleaning materials at the garage. It was

either then or the week before it the seventh eighth. Uh I cant remember.

Tabler An and where would you have got these cleaning materials like they sound like

something kind of special where would you get that?

Twitchell Uh just like Home Depot or Canadian Tire...

Tabler Home Depot?

Twitchell something like that yeah.

Tabler Well thats..

Twitchell We either ...

Tabler its just regular cleaning shit?

Twitchell Yeah. We dont use ...

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell that crazy its not like.

Tabler Oh okay well I don't know youre describing this stuff an...

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Twitchell Well yeah no its just like a usual stuff we dont have anything special the garage is a

dirty place anyway.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell we had no intention of putting anything cool in there anyway.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So you know just whatever will get the sticky stuff off or that kind of thing.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell Thats basically it something it if its not gonna sit there and smell up the place.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Be better.

Tabler So now youve been told that were looking for a missing man?

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Okay. Have you been told his name?

Twitchell No.

Tabler Okay the name is John...

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler Altinger A-L-T-I-N-G-E-R.

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler Does that name ring a bell to you or mean anything to you?

Twitchell No.

Tabler Never heard it before?

Twitchell No.

Tabler Hes nobody that youd been using as an actor or that maybe uh Mike or Jason

would a been in touch with?

Twitchell No I dont think so um I dont know if Mike or Jay know em but nothing that in

terms of casting or production crew or anything like that.

Tabler No?

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Twitchell No.

Tabler None not a worker not an employee youve heard about?

Twitchell No.

Tabler No? Now do you have any girls that are employed by you or that take part inanything any of the setup or any ...

Twitchell Often yeah.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell We uh had a really like uh great actress on this one to work with uh that was she

came to the condo set on the Friday uh came up from Red Deer named Katrina .

Tabler Katrina okay and...

Twitchell And uh thats the most recent.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell I got some like Facebook buddies too theyre all kinda like in the industry and back

and forth and you know um submitting themselves for casting calls and things like

that but.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Nobody thats crew .

Tabler Yeah. So these Facebook buddies would they have connected with anybody uh like

this maybe that was just a single guy that uh....

Twitchell Uhhhh no..

Tabler maybe attracted him to towards this sorta line of work or anything like that?

Twitchell maybe I dont know. Uh not that Im aware of but possibly....

Tabler Yeah? Okay okay the indications we have and weve got this through our

investigations and the address comes up and the garage is described and he actually

says that he was there on that particular day. The particular day were talking about

is the is I think the fifteenth.

Twitchell The fifteenth okay.

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Tabler Now I may be mistaken I may be mixing a couple things up but I think fifteenth and

thats the day youre indicating that you were probably down there putting supplies

there.

Twitchell Okay yeah.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell Like on a Wednesday or something.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler And it was in and around the same sort of time frame that you were there. You

know that he would a been there.

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler Like in the afternoon.

Twitchell Really?

Tabler Yeah and he was supposed to go there and meet a girl who described the address

and told him how to get there.

Twitchell Hmm.

Tabler Now this is a girl hes met through a you know an internet uh site.

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler Doesnt know her from before. So he of course lets friends know where hes going.

Twitchell Right, okay

Tabler But (Unintelligible) sends it out to a few friends all of a sudden he disappears. Las

known place was there. Said he went there met a guy the girl wasnt there. Met a

guy in the garage.

Twitchell In the garage?

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Okay. That would explain some things.

Tabler Can you tell me.. what what does it explain to you tell me what youre thinking.

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Twitchell Well it explains the foreign padlock if he switched it out or something like that that

makes sense.

Tabler Who switched it?

Twitchell Whoever this guy is?

Tabler Well he didnt switch anything he went there an met met somebody there yeah.

Twitchell Okay thats what I mean like whoever he met there.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Cuz I dont know of anybody else that has access unless they you know accessed it

themselves pretty much.

Tabler So your lock was totally gone off there?

Twitchell Yeah

Tabler Okay. The latch was still there but a different padlocks there so anybody could a

come along with a set of bolt cutters cut yours off put their own on right?

Twitchell Um hmm

Tabler That still doesnt give em access to the garage because theres still a deadbolt right?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler This guy indicates to his friends that he arrived met a guy in there the girl wasntthere got a call from her later

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler Was going back to the garage. And thats where the cold trail goes cold on us.

Twitchell So okay let me get this straight.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell The guy whos missing...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell shows up to my garage.

Tabler Right fifty-seven twelve fortieth Ave, yeah.

Twitchell Claims to have been in it?

Tabler Yeah and talked to a guy.

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Twitchell Talked to another guy?

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So now theres two of them and then he leaves...

Tabler Because the girls not there that hes supposedly ...

Twitchell Right, okay.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell And then he talks to her on the phone?

Tabler I dont know that he talks to her on the phone or if he gets a message from her or

which way that one was.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell He somehow ends up...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell communicating with her and then comes back...

Tabler Goes back to the garage to meet her.

Twitchell Okay alright.

Tabler Now does that sound like anything that you know about?

Twitchell Not real..

Tabler Does it sound like anything that could be related in any way to any movie sort of

stuff youre doing or?

Twitchell Not that Im aware of mean Im a Im the producer I pretty much control all the

elements

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So if there was anything like that if somebody needed to borrow the place or

whatever then they would let me know. So...

Tabler Theyd let you know um ...

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Tabler Yeah okay.

Twitchell But uh.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Yeah so shes uh on mat leave and looking after the kid and thats the you knowpretty much the daily life and then uh when I get home I take over.

Tabler Yeah

Twitchell We share that whole thing so yeah but now..

Tabler Okay. And your parents of course are supportive of this?

Twitchell Oh yeah.

Tabler They live here in Edmonton?

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Okay whereabouts do they live?

Twitchell They live uh in the Killarney area so ...

Tabler Oh yeah.

Twitchell its like a hundred and thirty first ave and eighty-seventh street.

Tabler Oh yeah okay, know the area well yeah.

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Have they always lived in that area Mark?

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Yeah. Whered you go to school?

Twitchell Long time long time uh I went to school in those little trio of schools its right

around their house it was uh St Matthews.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell For elementary and then St. Cs for Junior High then uh OLeary for high school.

Tabler OLeary?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Okay. Yeah and youre uh let me think twenty-nine is it?

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Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell I try to think if Ive seen...

Tabler You play any sports when you were at OLeary?

Twitchell Um not team sports no I mean I was I like basketball so I played with my buddies

after school stuff like that but uh ...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell didnt want it to become a job so I ....

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell like join the teams and stuff like that so..

Tabler Yeah yeah alright. Alright uh so once again John ALTINGER is not a name of you

known you nobody like thats tried to rent the place from you nobody by the name

of Jen means anything to you.

Twitchell No.

Tabler No relatives named Jen (Unintelligible)

Twitchell Oh maybe I dont have a list.

Tabler Okay. Alright.

Twitchell My moms one of twelve.

Tabler Fair enough.

Twitchell So you know l let me get back to you on that one its a checker for sure but .

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Umm no thats Im trying to think like if I dont really have any like you know

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Regular you know.

Tabler Okay what about Mike and Jason? Now if we were to call them up and get them to

come down I mean what kind of guys are they? Are they decent straight up...

Twitchell Oh yeah no theyre good guys they uh...

Tabler Yeah.

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Twitchell theyre really open dudes they I met em when I was working at Corporate Express.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Which is like a office supplies company.

Tabler Yeah yeah Ive heard of it.

Twitchell And uh yeah so Mike was the IT guy over there and Jay did some operations and

stuff like that in uh basically like putting out fires was his job.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Its complex I wasnt quite sure but ..

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell um so yeah they worked together there Jay left shortly after that and then uh Mike

hung on for a long time cuz it was a really easy gig with a pretty decent paycheck .

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Until he just got bored.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell And had to leave the two of them still worked together actually to this day at

another place.

Tabler Oh.

Twitchell And uh yeah so I kind of recruited them.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell A little bit from Corporate Express to help me out on Star Wars cuz they were both

huge fans and wanted to do it the whole gambit of everything on that project. And

then uh stuck around and said hey you know if you ever need any set building or

anything like that for for Day Players let us know. So theyll be the ones that Ill go

to to get like my apartment set and uh all this other stuff that I need for that film.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Uh in May anything thats gonna be in Edmonton theyll pretty much be supervising.

Tabler Yeah. Oh okay.

Twitchell Cuz they can they those guys are miracle workers when it comes to building things

on the cheap.

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Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Like they uh they built me an entire Tidefighter cockpit for like a hundred and thirty

bucks.

Tabler Really.

Twitchell I couldnt believe it Im like really and like you look at this thing and I said it looks like

garbage its like cardboard and gels and like uh you know ca...like caulking.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell And and you just it looks like crap but then when you look at it through a camera

cuz you can fool a camera pretty well looks really good. So were sitting there

lighting the thing and switching back and forth to get Star Wars paused at that exact

moment to see what our lighting looks like flipping back and forth and then they

come back to ours and they go okay now go back to ours they think ours is the

movie.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Okay I think were done.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell It looks good so yeah no they did a did a fantastic job they ended up giving me like

eight nine uh really good screen accurate sets.Tabler Ummm..

Twitchell For less than three grand in total so and that included like a giant (Unintelligible)

bridged trench and everything an..

Tabler Well.

Twitchell Yeah I dont know how they do it the compositors are gonna have total gold to

work with when they finish that off but.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Its kinda already served it s purpose.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Its already proved that I know what Im doing an got me to the next level but Im

just gonna finish it off anyway cuz I love it.

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Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Put so much work into it now might as well keep going.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Humm...

Tabler Yeah absolutely...

Twitchell So. Its kinda hard to go back to that though when youve got so much other stuff

going on. Im working on developing paying projects.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Ive got this incredibly beautiful daughter....

Tabler Hmm.

Tabler I just love to death and...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell you know want to get home to.

Tabler Yeah. How old is she?

Twitchell So shes eight months.

Tabler Oh yeah.

Twitchell Been sleeping straight through the night since the second week...

Tabler Oh wonderful .

Twitchell so we got completely luck with that great disposition and everything.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Shes just amazing.

Tabler Oh good well luck you.

Twitchell I want her like you know join the family business.

Tabler You bet yeah.

Twitchell Break it down shes like dad I got a script for you it would be awesome.

Tabler Yeah it would be.

Twitchell But....

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Tabler That would be great. Yeah.

Twitchell Yea.

Tabler Okay Mark uh let me step out uh because Ive got a some other people I just want to

go over what weve talked about with uh with them.

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler And see if theres anything else Im missing.

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler Uh I think I better talk to Mike and to Jason.

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Those are the only other two people that might have had any access to that garage

at all.

Twitchell Yeah yeah thered be well the only guys that had the key to the deadbolt... the big

reason why I got the padlock was because I just didnt trust the deadbolt.

Tabler Yes.

Twitchell Like okay when I first got the place I knew that Kirkside was looking at replacing it

so they actually had like a lock guy come in and put a new deadbolt on it. Which is

fine but I don't know what to compare it to. Its only half the equation.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell You have this deadbolt and then the whole that its in I dont know if you seen this

thing but its like all carved out ...

Tabler Oh..

Twitchell Theres a bunch of space in there its like I dont know it didnt look that reliable to

me.....

Tabler (Unintelligible) uh yeah...

Twitchell holding so I mean I didnt I dont know I didnt put much stock in it I thought

honestly that the latch with the padlock would be A more of a visual deterrent .

Tabler Yeah..

Twitchell if anybody wanted to get in there. And uh B just kind of be a little stronger..

Tabler Hmm.

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Twitchell in general because of the way that it was actually like fastened on there so I mean

you know like it feel like an idiot now but half the time I wouldnt even bother with

the deadbolt because its like...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell I didnt really believe in it frankly. From looking at it and loosening it and stuff like

that so I mean just off and on sometimes Id lock it just for the hell of it I mean

generally if Im coming in and out I just leave it .

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell So..

Tabler Now you you say general if Im coming in an out and we talked about how many

times youd been there.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler And there was one weekend where you were there shooting.

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler And then you been back about a week ago and then this last week to drop off

cleaning supplies.

Twitchell Right.

Tabler Right and we know that was probably the fifteenth. Did you drop em off the same

day you bought em?

Twitchell Yeah I think so.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler And whatd you use to ...

Twitchell I dont remember.

Tabler pay for those.

Twitchell Uh I think it was my MasterCard it was either MasterCard or cash something like

that. (Unintelligible) floating around so

Tabler MasterCard what kind of MasterCard do you have?

Twitchell Its a uh prepaid MasterCard from uh...

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Tabler Prepaid MasterCard from.

Twitchell from the Cash Store.

Tabler The Cash Store?

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler Okay. Why do you use a prepaid MasterCard?

Twitchell I had a bankruptcy about six years ago.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell So its almost going off the record an everything like that .

Tabler Yeah so you use ...

Twitchell Just kind of a pesky thing thats following me around an I dont really find a lot of need for credit cards cuz it wasnt something that was ever really that big of a

pressing deal.

Tabler No.

Twitchell Uh ever since I like I learned my lesson and the reason that I actually had to file that

in the first place an this is like goes back to stupid young man crap like...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell hey I got...

Tabler Lots of people gone through it I know what its like yeah.

Twitchell well twenty-one I got married the first time young and stupid to someone that I

thought I was gonna be with forever an for the wrong reasons. Long story short I

moved to the US because she was a US citizen got residency down there. But the

problem was I didnt understand how long it would take to get that process done

and I lived down there for a little over ten months before I actually had a legal work

permit.

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell To be able to be able to bring in an income so while Im down there following my

heart ..

Tabler Yeah.

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Twitchell racking up like my bills are still there all of this stuff was mounting up it was over

twenty grand worth and then I was just like damn. So between having that on my

plate and at that point in my life believing I was gonna be in the US for awhile...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell I figured that filing a Canadian bankruptcy was the best way to go. And my trustee

felt the same way so I filed with them got it taken care of got discharged from it

within like the same year uh but its just one of those things that sticks on your

credit rating.

Tabler Oh yeah

Twitchell So when that relationship didnt work out I moved back to Canada it still followed

me around it wasnt that big of a .....because Im not racking up debt or anything like

that Im just living my life uh getting you know my job and my place and pay my bills

an stuff like that I didnt need to have credit.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So but the thing is is like if you ever want to book a hotel room or a flight or

anything shop online use EBay its like..

Tabler Yeah

Twitchell you know its just easier to have a credit card so uh when Much Music had their

MasterCard out I got that thing. Ended up losing it it was a huge pain in the butt

anyway cuz you could only load it online and you pay these little fees for every little

thing even just to call in to check your balance it charges a fee. So uh I went to Cash

Store and said okay I need something thats gonna be a little more handy a little

more useful something I can load just by going in to the store instead of having to get

online and do it every time so.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell I got that.

Tabler Yep and thats how you start rebuilding credit eh you start off ....

Twitchell I dont even know if prepaid reports your credit payment history or not but uh .....

Tabler I think it does help yeah.

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Twitchell I could help the mortgage I thought was a big one. The two big ones that are helping

me build my credit back right now are uh a business loan that I have through TD

which is almost paid off um that I took out to give me a boost for getting all my

equipment for shooting Star Wars.

Tabler Uh huh.

Twitchell And uh the mortgage so ...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell that was just....

Tabler Mortgage on your...

Twitchell On my house.

Tabler House?

Twitchell It was just it was great the way that happened because I was convinced for the

amount of income that my wife made and her track record shed be the one to get

the mortgage. But they looked at the overall situation and said I was the guy so Im

okay.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Went in there did all the paperwork filed it up and it got done and so that worked

out really well.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Go through a broker it was a bit of a hassle here and there because theres just like

straggler bills from five six years ago but ...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell were kind of there and when these the lenders said heres all the conditions we want

to lend you the money so like uh...

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Give us proof that you paid this Rogers bill back in the day or that it still counts

under your bankruptcy and youve taken care of it and last I checked that was gone

so..

Tabler Yeah.

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Twitchell Little hassles and stuff like that but it was pretty much just a relatively smooth ride.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Was able to secure that up and get it done an worked out great.

Tabler Now Im gonna ask you a couple questions about this now you told me about someprojects youre shooting on.

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler And I want to ask you if youre doing any other kind of shooting there like is there

any and I mean Im just wondering because it brings into play different sort of

characters.

Twitchell Right.

Tabler Are you shooting any porn there or anything like that?

Twitchell No no...

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell Ive actually been teased about that a lot.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell And uh I tease back by saying that oh I should a gotten into porn because its

guaranteed money in the bank.

Tabler Right.

Twitchell You know what I mean.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell But uh its really not the environment for that for one thing its not even heated.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell You know what I mean like...

Tabler Yeah..

Twitchell No its just.

Tabler Yeah it would be a little cool in there.

Twitchell And then again if you if a filmmaker gets into that side of the industry the other side

will never take you seriously.

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Tabler Okay.

Twitchell So unless I want to go make in like a hundred aliases call myself Dick HARD or

some stupid porn name or whatever. You know like that just wouldnt make any

sense and Ive never been really anywhere near interested in that kind of material.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell I want to be taken seriously I dont necessarily have to go after Academy Awards or

anything like I just want to make movies that will entertain people and get out there

in into actual movie theatres and have tickets and stuff like that so.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell Thats always been the ultimate goal for me but yeah no porn or anything like that.

Tabler Okay.Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler So have you ever heard of these online dating site...

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler kind of things. What are some of the ones youve heard of?

Twitchell Oh man I dont know Match.com uh Ive heard the Plenty of Fish one uh...

Tabler Okay. Plenty of Fish.

Twitchell Yeah theres a what else is there I dont know theres a bunch of em like hundreds of

em.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So.

Tabler Okay. You dont frequent them?

Twitchell No.

Tabler Okay.

Twitchell I did some research on them for a freelance article that I wrote uh that was like

about a month ago.

Tabler About a month ago.

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Twitchell Maybe more it was a little over a month ago. This is a freelance project that I got

Im on this website called Ifreelance.com.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell You get like you know basically writing gigs and stuff like that.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell And this guy said you know what we need an article for uh online dating and stuff

like that and the rules and etiquette an and what not and I said okay Ill jump on that

so um checked out some that stuff in order to write the article to put it together

and did it and got paid for it and everything like that so.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Yeah but uh ...Tabler So whatd you end up doing with that? So you pretend your somebody and do the

online dating sort of thing and line em all up...

Twitchell Yeah but you tell everybody whats going on right like I you know would say its a

social experiment for the purpose of figuring out.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell What your view and opinion of it is and that kind of thing and its a lot easier just to

touch base with the people who use the site and get their overall opinion from it.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell So they uh would said say well you know it like in different opinions too of the guys

who say things like well you know its really tough cuz theres lots of competition.

Uh the girls come back with the feedback of well everybody on heres a pig.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell You know and that kind of thing and so I kind of you know break that down try to

get a little more creative with it and ...

Tabler Um hmm.

Twitchell make it something that somebody would actually feel like reading.

Tabler Um hmm.

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Twitchell Uh and the way I understood it was that they were trying to get something that they

couldnt have published in like Maxim online or something like that and then post it.

For me I wouldnt worry about the publishing because they can do whatever they

want with it.

Tabler Yeah.

Twitchell Uh its just like you know what if Im gonna write this for you gimme a pay cheque

and were good.

Tabler Yeah yeah.

Twitchell So.

Tabler Here done gone.

Twitchell Yeah.Tabler So in that you werent really posing as a person that was trying to date people...

Twitchell No.

Tabler what you were doing is just contacting them saying hey looking for views on...

Twitchell Yeah.

Tabler okay. And thats why you know what some of those sites are?

Twitchell Um hmm.

Tabler Okay. Uh alright now like I said Im gonna talk to my people and see if I uh missing

anything.

Twitchell Okay.

Tabler And run over stuff bear with us a few minutes and thank you very much uh...

Twitchell Sure.

Tabler Okay

Twitchell Do you...

Tabler And we...

Twitchell If you come back and Im sleeping just nudge me Ill ...

Tabler Yeah alright yeah. Okay.

Twitchell Because I wont...

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Transcript Of An InterviewTabler Dont start swinging will you...

Twitchell No I ..

Tabler Okay I was wondering should I (Recording ends abruptly)

Transcribed By Heather2009 June 5

twitchell police interview transcript 08oct19

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