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TROUBLE SHOOTING STEAM TROUBLE SHOOTING STEAM TURBINE PHOSPHATE ESTER TURBINE PHOSPHATE ESTER
EHC SYSTEMSEHC SYSTEMS
May 17, 2010STLE Power Generation Council
Ken Brown, FSTLE, CLS, P. Eng.Eco Fluid Center Ltd.
&Ted Austin, STLE
Forsythe Lubrication Associates
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INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTION
This talk will focus on trouble shooting EHC fluid problems. Generally this means that the fluid is out of specification.
While fluid overheating can be a factor, the root cause is usually some aspect of the filtration and/or purification equipment.
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GE TURBINESGE TURBINES
GE large turbine systems have either 400 or 800
US gallon reservoirs with a TAFEFU (transfer and fullers earth filtration unit). This usually has two Hilliard media housings with either one or two cartridges. Usually with fullers earth or Selexsorb.
Each cartridge is about 6" (15 cm) OD and 18" (46 cm) long. This is the ‘718’ size.
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GE PURIFICATIONGE PURIFICATION
One Cartridge High Two Cartridges High
‘1’ Gpm ‘2’ Gpm
Note: Vent Housings After Installation
VENT
VALVES
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Post Media Filter Elements Showing Seal Patterns From Misalignment -- Use A 20Use A 20”” OneOne
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GEKGEK--46355F (1990) page 4946355F (1990) page 49
Change all fullers earth filter elements together Change all fullers earth filter elements together
every every threethree months months oror sooner sooner oror whenever one of whenever one of
the following is present:the following is present:
The The ⌂⌂p reaches p reaches 30 psi30 psi (207 kPa),(207 kPa),
The chlorine content is The chlorine content is >100 ppm>100 ppm, ,
The water content is The water content is >0.20%,>0.20%,
The acid number reaches The acid number reaches 0.20 mgKOH/g0.20 mgKOH/g..
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GE Reservoir Internals - Examine For Level, Foam And/Or Plunging Streams
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GE Newer Vertical HPU
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TR-20 Condition System Suction
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Do Not Assume - Verify And Correct
Root Cause
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TR20 Conditioner Gauges
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GE TR20 Conditioner On
Smaller Unit
0
0.2
0.4
0.6A
cid
Num
ber
Jan-08 Jan-09 Jan-10 Jan-11Sample Date
ACID NUMBERREPLACED CONDITIONER PUMP IN FALL 08
OEM MAXIMUM
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WESTINGHOUSE (SIEMENS)WESTINGHOUSE (SIEMENS)The reservoir is smaller at 300 US gallons. The normal operating level is three quarters full. There are two 100% pumps mounted under the reservoir. These are now variable displacement piston types.
The purification system has two Nugent housings in series through which 1 gpm of fluid is ‘now’continuously circulated. It used to be ‘as required’.
The first housing takes a media cartridge followed by a 5 micron nominal ‘cellulose’ filter element.
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Nugent Housings - Use The Right Pressure Gauges And Know The Correct Values
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PURIFICATION MEDIA CHANGESPURIFICATION MEDIA CHANGESAccording to O&MM 120 the purification media is supposed to be changed when the pressure drop is >30 psi or when the purification media is no longer effective in maintaining operational limits. The limits include the chlorine content (<100 ppm), water content (<0.10%), acid number (<0.25 mg KOH/g), resistivity (>5.0 Gohm.cm) and particulate contamination (<SAE Class 2 or -ISO 14/12).
The maximum acidity was lowered to 0.2 mgKOH/g and the maximum pressure drop to 15 psi in O&MM 120 Rev 1.
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Westinghouse Unit Showing New Pump Hoses Westinghouse Unit Showing New Pump Hoses --
What To Use & When To Change?What To Use & When To Change?
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Showing Location Of The 10 Micron Metal
‘Cuno’ Pump Discharge Filters
FILTERS
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Not Really Better - Plugged 3 Micron
Fiberglass Pump Discharge Elements
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Reservoir Return Piping Westinghouse - Good Return Pipe Depth But
Possibly A Low Level At One Time
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ABB (ALSTOM)ABB (ALSTOM)Most users with the larger ABB steam turbines had fluid darkening, rising acid numbers, foaming and deposits but apparently not significant operational problems.
The systems can contain up to 17,000 litres (4,500 gallons). The reservoirs also have a vaporextraction fan that is not common on phosphate ester control systems.
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Taller Housing Takes Bulk Media. The Shorter Filter Has 7 Filter Elements - Note No Pressure
Gauge On Filter Housing
MEDIA
FILTER
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Normal Seasonal VariationsNormal Seasonal VariationsNeed Regular SamplesNeed Regular Samples
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Material Compatibility - No Buna N but Viton, EPR, Nylon or PTFE
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NEIP Fullers Earth Housing (8 Cartridges) On
The Left And Trap Filter On The Right
AIR RELEASE VALVES
MEDIA
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Using IX Cartridges Instead Of Fullers Earth
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HILCO Housing Hold Down ‘T’ Handle
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New Fluid Filtration - Do Operators Really Know What The Red Pin Means?
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ROOT CAUSESROOT CAUSES
Fluid maintenance problems can usually be traced back to one or more of the following;
1. Purification media left in too long.
2. Fluid is being overstressed.
3. Defective valves, settings or procedures.
4. Purification flowrate is wrong.
5. Media stored wrong, too wet or too dry.
6. Purification housings are air bound.
7. The wrong purification media.
8. The wrong fluid is being used.
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Acid Number - Much Better With More Changes And Dry Media
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Water Content - Much Better With
Reservoir Dry Air Purge
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Particle Counts - Know Who
Took The Sample And How
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Resistivity - Slowly Getting Better
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TAKING ACTION TAKING ACTION -- ONE STATIONONE STATION1. Dried fuller earth cartridges.
2. Used a better 20” trap filter.
3. Added reservoir dry air purge.
4. Did FE changes every three months.
5. ‘Caked’ new FE then changed trap filter.
6. Reduced TAFEFU flowrate to 1 gpm.
7. Added a TAFEFU flow gauge.
8. Installed proper housing pressure gauges.
9. Raised fluid temperature.
10. Returned to true ‘718’ FE cartridges.
11. Improved sampling procedures.
12. Used clean sample bottles (free).
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PREVENTING FLUID PROBLEMSPREVENTING FLUID PROBLEMS1. Change the purification media long before the
fluid gets out of specification.
2. Have current documentation.
3. Have working and proper housing pressure gauges.
4. Verify compliance and status with walk-downs, stores withdrawals, operator logs and good fluid samples.
5. Examine used parts and get overhaul reports for valves, pumps and servovalves.
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SUMMARYSUMMARYIn most cases the reason that the fluid has gone out of specification is that the fluid maintenance has changed.
It can be activity related re when, what or how it was done but also improper , substitution, ‘incompatibility, component degradation, sampling, testing, and/or other.
To determine what has to be done, it is first necessary to determine what has or has not been done to cause the problem.
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ACTIONSACTIONSOn a mature unit or one that historically not had fluid issues, determine what has chanced. Base decisions on facts not what the computer says or what was thought.
On a new unit or one that has had problems for years, do not assume it was designed correctly or installed properly. Try to bench mark with a sister unit.
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TRAININGTRAINING
Few EHC system engineers are being given any real training on the details of their systems and more importantly on what is normal for the fluid.
While the manuals and files might be somewhere who has time to look? Plus you are now supposed to be able to take care of it because you are in that seat.
But a lot of help is available.
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SELF TRAININGSELF TRAININGTry to walk the system and to visit the package every week looking for leaks, take pressure readings, look at the drum storage and maintenance activities. Take digital photos.
Try to witness filter changes and sampling. Ensure that the right fluid tests are being done and done when required.
During outage look inside reservoirs
Stay in touch with sister stations as well as with your fluid and filter suppliers.
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CONCLUSIONSCONCLUSIONS
1. With simple but effective improvements it is usually possible to restore the fluid to specification without costly add-on equipment or outages.
2. Changes should be based on fact. Verify actual practices and check claims by others.
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CONCLUSIONSCONCLUSIONS
3. Effective fluid maintenance requires a champion to coordinate efforts and to keep the efforts going but resolution requires the active support of a number of different work groups.
4. The cause of the fluid ‘problems’ can be for more than one reason.
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