training issues in clinical psychology created by dr. glenn callaghan edited by dr. steve del chiaro
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Training Issues in Clinical Psychology
Created by Dr. Glenn Callaghan Edited by Dr. Steve
Del Chiaro
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Scientist-Practitioner (Boulder) Model Developed by the American
Psychological Association (APA) in 1949
Examined training issues for Ph.D.s Attempted to join science and
practice: scientist-practitioner model Only when you practice can you know
what needs to be researched; only if you research can you know how you’re practicing
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Advantages to the Scientist-Practitioner Model Develop science-based or
evidenced-based treatments Conduct individual level science on
own practice Use science to influence others’
practice ACCOUNTABILITY
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Scientist-Practitioner Model The reality is that this doesn’t exist
Clinicians do not consume research (Cohen, Sargent, & Sechrest, 1986; Morrow-Bradley & Elliot, 1986)
Clinicians do not use empirical methods to evaluate their own treatments (Barlow, et al., 1987)
Clinicians do not contribute to the scientific community (Haynes, Lemsky, & Sexton-Radek, 1987)
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Scientist-Practitioner Model Set up a new distinction called the
Clinical-Scientist Model by APS Boulder model still most popular,
but the APA has created a practice guild Guild’s interests are not always in
advancement of science
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Professional Competence Certification Process (licensing)
Attempt to protect the public by restricting the use of the title “psychologist”
Doesn’t restrict anybody from practicing as long as they don’t use the word “psychologist”
Some argue it just protects psychologists
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Licensing Protect the public by specifying the
nature of “psychologist”, the training required for licensure, and what professional activities can be billed
Requirements for licensure often include: Receiving training at an accredited program For “Psychologist” - must have a doctorate For psychotherapist - can another advanced
degree
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Licensing Done by states Term “psychologist” is protected
only those with Ph.D. and Psy.D. can use it anyone can call him/her self a “counselor”
Requirements of licensing vary from state to state Can require a Ph.D./Psy.D. in Clinical or
Counseling psychology but, “School Psychologist” = MA/MS
MFT, LCSW = MA/MS
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Licensing Requirements of licensing
1-2 yrs post-degree supervised experience is required
3000 hours total for all licenses Passing a written and/or oral
examination Being a resident of the state Continuing education
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Graduate Training in Clinical Psychology Assumptions about graduate training
(explicit) This is trainable (explicit) This requires training (explicit) There is a knowledge base in
clinical science that should be known (explicit) Some of this cannot be trained
in class rooms (implicit) Some of this requires
apprenticing Art-type of clinical epistemology
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Profile of Practitioners
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Clinical Psychology Most common subspecialty of
psychology Focus on psychopathology and
serious problems Research, develop treatments, and
intervene with depression, anxiety, personality disorders, etc.
Greatest proportion of Ph.D.s Counseling Psychology is 2nd
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Ph.D. Areas by Popularity
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Counseling Psychology 2nd most common subspecialty of psych
Historically - roots in career development Focus on “normative” issues
Vs. clinical focus on abnormal behavior/disorder
Adjustment focus vs. disorder Career search Coping with divorce Coping with illness
Enhancing effectiveness Building self-confidence
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Training - Doctorate Education
Ph.D. (Doctor of Philosophy) Traditional research emphasis in addition 3-4 yrs coursework/practicum 1-? yrs dissertation research 1500 hours internship (similar to residency)
Psy. D. (Doctor of Psychology) 3-4 yrs coursework/practicum 1500 hours internship (similar to residency) 1-? yrs dissertation research
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Coursework for PhD Training in statistics and research
methodology Training in theory Training in psychotherapy Conduct research (MA, then
dissertation)
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Coursework for PhD Clinical placement Do qualifying exams/comps Clinical internship (1500 hrs) Postdoctoral internship (1500 hrs) Job?….
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Training Example for Ph.D. 4 yrs Bachelor degree – Psychology, University of California,
Irvine 1 yr Masters Program – MA Experimental Psych (CSU, Fullerton)
Research placement – UC Irvine Medical Center 5 yrs Doctoral Program – Clinical Psychology, University of
Nevada Assistantship – Psychological Services Clinic Assistant Practicum – UNR Student Services Practicum – Victims of Crime Treatment Center 1 yr dissertation
Development and testing psychotherapy coding system 1 yr internship
University of California, San Diego/San Diego Veterans Administration Hospital consortium
Depression, substance abuse and outpatients services
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Dollars and cents
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Doctor of Psychology (PsyD) Model Emphasis on the development of clinical
skills and a relative de-emphasis on research competency
Heavy amount of clinical training First developed at Univ. of Illinois in 1968 By 1998, 36 programs accredited in U.S. Click here for the article:
Appreciating the PsyD: The Facts
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Psy.D Model Debate continues Some argue PsyDs indistinguishable to
PhD’s when applying for internship and may have an advantage for clinical jobs
Some argue PhDs do more scholarly work and may be better equipped to evaluate and be critical of ideas, techniques, or theories handed to them
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Professional Schools Schools that have no affiliation with
universities that generally grant PsyD Free-standing Universities
First was California School of Professional Psychology (CSPP)
By 1993, almost ½ doctorates in clinical psychology were awarded by professional schools
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Professional Schools Pros
Lots of clinical training Admit many students
Cons Expensive Usually not accredited May be unstable (buyer beware)
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Roles of Clinical & Counseling Psychologists
Research Assessment Treatment Teaching Consultation Administration
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Work Settings (PhD & PsyD)
Private and Group practice 35%Colleges and Universities 25%Hospitals & Medical Schools 25%Outpatient Clinics 16%Business and Industry 9%Military 2%Other locations (schools, prisons, etc…)
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Masters Level Degrees for Practice MS MFT MSW LCSW others…
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Training for Masters Education
Masters level therapists MS in clinical or counseling
psychology Marriage Family Therapists (MFT) 2-4 years coursework/practicum 2 years internship
Masters in Social Work Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) 2-4 years coursework/practicum 2 years internship
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Coursework for Masters Level Clinicians Some training in theory Some training in applied research
Goal is to develop critical skills for consumers of research
Lots of training in psychotherapy Do qualifying exams/comps Pre-degree clinical placement/internship
(750 hrs) Post-degree internship (2250 hrs) job?….
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Training Example for MS 4 yrs Bachelor degree – Psychology, University of
California Santa Cruz 2 yr Masters Program – MS Clinical Psychology,
San Jose State University Fieldwork placement – Family & Children
Services, San Jose 2 yrs Internship
Franklin McKinley School School problems, substance abuse, depression,
anxiety
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Masters Level Degrees Advantages
If don’t want to do research Less overhead More likely to be employed
conducting therapy than Ph.D.s
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Masters Level Degrees Disadvantages
Uncertain outcome Lower rate of pay Less skills with accountability (may be
necessary skills)
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Critical Thinking Moment Requiring therapy for training APA has rules about who can do this
and who cannot while in training Hotly contested issue
Relevance of the student’s own therapy to conduct therapy
Personal development Ties to history of psychotherapy What do you think?
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Graduate School
Degree Options
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Degree Choices Many factors should influence this
What do you want to do when you are done with your degree?
e.g., Research, Service delivery Let that determine what degree you
pursue more than “prestige” Some degrees will not let you do what
you want Consider the duties you want to
perform, rather than a job title.
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Degree Choices How much time do you want to
spend getting your degree? 2 years, 4 years, 7 years?
Are you able to move? Can you assemble a competitive
application? How are your grades? Do you have the requisite experience?
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Ph.D. or Masters? Should I get a Ph.D. or a Masters? Depends on what you want to do!
Do you want to do research?
Masters in Experimental Psych Ph.D.
Do you want to focus on service delivery?
Masters in applied area (clinical, I/O) (MS, MSW)
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Ph.D. or Masters? Ph.D.
Research degree Developing studies, carrying them out Program evaluation Administration Academics Often minimal practice or service
delivery
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Ph.D. or Masters? Ph.D.
Pros: More flexibility in job choice Can be better pay More flexibility if move from state to state
for some specialties
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Ph.D. or Masters? Ph.D.
Cons: Takes a long time to complete Very focused area of expertise Limited to research or administration
(some areas) More loans on average
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Ph.D. or Masters? Masters
Tend to be practice or service delivery oriented
Do not typically focus on production of research
Do focus on consumption of research Can lead to licensing
Marriage Family Therapist (MFT) Masters in Social Work (MSW)
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Master of What? Designation of MS or MA depends on school! Masters of Science
Traditionally a “trade” or “applied science” degree
May be a terminal degree SJSU’s MS in Clinical Psychology
May be a research degree
Masters of Arts Traditionally more breadth
May be a research degree SJSU’s MA in Experimental Psychology
May be terminal degree
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Ph.D. or Masters? Masters
Pros Shorter time to complete Owe less money Very focused training Typically set up for licensing
Once finish hours (if required)
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Ph.D. or Masters? Masters
Cons: Often less pay than Ph.D. (but less overhead) Less flexibility to move if licensed in one state Harder to get a teaching position (if
interested) Will do less program administration and
evaluation (typically)
NOTE: some programs will require you to have applied experience prior to applying
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Ph.D. or Masters? Should I get a Masters first if I want
to go on for a Ph.D.? Yes, if you need to:
If you can’t get in yet OR didn’t get in yet
If you feel you are not ready yet and would benefit from more training
If the Ph.D. program you are interested in requires it
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Ph.D. or Masters What kind of Masters should I get if
I want to go on to a Ph.D.? Often, it is an Masters (MA at SJSU) in
General or Experimental psychology Prepares you for research programs
Do NOT apply for a terminal masters (SJSU MS Clinical) if you want a Ph.D.
These do not prepare you for research
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The Route to a Graduate Degree
BA/BS in Psych
Ph.D. in specific
area
This is a straight path for researchers
4-7 years
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The Route to a Graduate Degree
BA/BS in Psych
Ph.D. in specific
area
This is a path to get into Ph.D. with a Masters Masters in
Experimental
SJSU MA Experimental
1-2 yearsOn the way: Presentations, Publications, Thesis
3-6 yearsThe MA prepares for Ph.D. programs
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The Route to a Graduate Degree
BA/BS in Psych
Ph.D. in specific
area
Masters in Applied area
(terminal degree)
2-4 years
The Applied Masters prepares service providers
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The Route to a Graduate Degree
BA/BS in Psych
Ph.D. in specific
area
Masters in Applied area
2-4 yearsThe Applied Masters will not prepare students for a traditional academic Clinical Ph.D. program
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A Note on Licensing Many hours required to get
licensing Clinical psychology
Ph.D. or Masters 3,000 hours of clinical experience
required to get licensed Ph.D. = licensed psychologist
1500 pre-degree on internship + 1500 post doctorate THEN take licensing test
Masters = MFT or MSW 500 pre-degree as trainee + 2500 post degree
as intern THEN take licensing test
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Social Work Training is in placement of the individual
into social system Greater focus on social dynamic than
individual therapy Psychotherapy tends to be secondary in
training Can practice therapy in CA and elsewhere
Masters in social work leads to Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW)
Is this the best degree for you? It all depends…
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Graduate School
Getting in: Pieces of the Puzzle
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Are you ready? Getting in
Harder than undergrad Need several ingredients
Some ingredients take time to build Need to set this up for yourself well in
advance
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Statement
GREs
GPA
Letters
Experience
Ingredients for graduate school applications These are slices of a pie
Some slices can be less if others are more
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Ingredients: Grades Grades
They count! Overall GPA, Psych GPA, Last 2 years’ GPA
Ph.D. programs – typically 3.5 and above Masters programs – 3.0 and above
Need to make minimal cutoffs Demonstrate competence to move to specialty
Remember, if you are short here, you have to make it up in another area
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Ingredients: GREs Entrance Exams Most programs require these Many require the Graduate Record
Exam (GREs) 3 Sections: V, Q, A
Many look at Verbal (V) and Quantitative (Q) These two need to add up to over 1000 min PhD – 1200 and above Masters – over 1000
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Ingredients: GREs (cont’d) GREs Tips:
Study! Take early Take more than once
Remember caveats about size of slices
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Ingredients: Statement Statement of Intent
Needs to be clear and concise Answer questions that they ask Don’t over disclose Say why that program Revise and rewrite! DO NOT shotgun applications
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Ingredients: Letters Letters of
Recommendation/Reference Need to be from people who can
evaluate your skills Ideally these skills relate directly to the
program you are applying to Need the number they ask for Can typically do one more than that Need to be good letters
not mediocre, especially not bad
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Ingredients: Experience Experience
Needs to be in area related to type of program you are applying to
If applied degree get applied experience
Show evidence of being around population or issues relevant to your work
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Ingredients: Experience Experience
If research degree get research experience
Show evidence that you know what research is, what it is like, and that you are good at it
Need to assemble a Curriculum Vitae (CV) or a resume summarize experience clearly
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Graduate School
Getting in: Considering the Odds
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Considering the Odds Ph.D. programs and Masters
programs have different acceptance rates
These rates change depending on Ph.D. vs Masters The type of specialty program you
apply to
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Considering the Odds Ph.D. programs
Lower odds of gaining admission Tend to accept fewer individuals Class of 5 to 10 Competition is more stringent May accept only 4 - 12% of applicants
Depends on degree program
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Considering the OddsPh.D. in Health Service Provider FieldsClinical 0.12 Community 0.33 Counseling 0.14 Health 0.25 School 0.28Other 0.20 Subtotal 0.17
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Considering the OddsPh.D. in Research / Other FieldsCognitive 0.25 Developmental 0.22 Educational 0.37 Experimental 0.24 Industrial/Organizational 0.14 Neuroscience/Physiological/Bio 0.20 Personality 0.17 Quantitative 0.40 Social 0.17 Other 0.32
Subtotal 0.23
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Considering the Odds: Example Example with clinical psychology
Much depends on type of program Overall acceptance rate: 12-13% Accredited by APA (very important) Private schools:
7511 applied 873 accepted 12% acceptance rate
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Considering the Odds: Example Example with clinical psychology Accredited by APA (very important) Public schools:
15198 applied 1033 accepted 6% acceptance rate
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Considering the Odds Ph.D. programs
GRE averages for 1999-2000 Min V+Q = 1066 admitted score V+Q = 1161
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Considering the Odds Ph.D. programs
GPA averages (99-00) overall min = 3.04 Admitted in
overall = 3.53 last 2 years = 3.61 Psych = 3.66 Masters = 3.77
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Considering the Odds Masters programs
Better odds of gaining admission Tend to accept more individuals
Class of 15 to 20 Competition is less stringent May accept up to 25 to 50%
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Considering the Odds
Master's Programs in Health Service Provider Fields
Clinical 0.56Community 0.56 Counseling 0.67 School 0.44 Other 0.67 Subtotal 0.59
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Considering the OddsMaster's Programs in Research / Other Fields
Developmental 0.56 Educational 0.78 Experimental 0.59 Ind/Org 0.45 General 0.60 Social 0.38 Other 0.67 Subtotal 0.60
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Considering the Odds Masters programs
GPA averages (99-00) overall min = 2.90 Admitted in
overall = 3.33 last 2 years = 3.45 Psych = 3.48
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Considering the Odds Masters programs
GRE averages for 1999-2000 Min V+Q = 975 admitted score V+Q = 1057
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Considering the Odds Should I apply if I don’t meet
minimal criteria? Not if you expect to get in If you can show another area is very
strong, then make your case Be Persistent
Many times takes more than one attempt
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Considering the Odds Apply to your dream school
Don’t let someone say you can’t get in
Take your time with your decision Be thoughtful about your choices Be realistic about your possibilities
Don’t turn down an offer that hasn’t been made
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Useful Resources Your professors Your fellow students e Resources
Getting in: www.apa.org/students Salaries in Psych jobs
http://research.apa.org/99salaries.html Application statistics
http://research.apa.org/doctoral.html Acceptance into Grad School Statistics
http://research.apa.org/gs00tab18.pdf