Tournament Winner Reports Archive 2003

By Brian Evans (Romwe) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 10:07 am: Edit

I definitely got lucky, twice. It was actually 2 separate volleys. The first from range 3 on his #1. That was good for about 12 internals if I remember right. I took about 25 internals, in 2 volleys losing both right side torps. The second was from range 8, on his #5. I had spent a couple turns chasing on the shield so it was already weakened, and was good for 16 internals. I turned off and he did a HET and chased me with his down front shield. We ended that turn at range 5, with me facing his #1 which had a couple boxes repaired on it. If he had turned that shield away, I think that he could have chased me in the corner and beat the tar out of me.

BTW. this is actually my second Ace. I won my first in a Klingon at Origins this year by tying for first in Sat Patrol.

regards, Brian

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 03:54 pm: Edit

Brian,

Thanks for the recap--it sounded like an interesting game.

I didn't know you were a Sat Patrol Ace this year--I feel so square now :-)

Either way, we don't have to play eachother in Captain's next year for a couple rounds :-)

Take it easy, -Peter

By David Cheng (Davec) on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 01:04 am: Edit

Yes, here is the "official" report of the action at this past weekend's Council of Five Nations tournament. (Sorry for the delay: after a week of gaming overload, I had to turn my attention to football; Go Phins!)

We had 16 in the Patrol Tournament, and are very happy to be able to award Mr Brian Evans a second Ace Card.

The players, in order of appearance: Steve Wampler - ISC Brian Evans - Romulan TKR John Rigley - WYN AxBC (PhG x2, Drone x2) Dage McNitt - Fed

Nathan Whitchurch - Fed Mark Russman - Archeo-Tholian TCC Ben Ossenfort - WYN Shark (Ph1 x2) Jason Murphy - Fed Andrew Sackett - Orion (Package A: HB x2, PhG, Drone, Ph1) (Package B [Never Used]: PlasF x2, PhG, Fus x2) Peter Bakija: Kzinti Kevin Hidinger: Romulan King Eagle John Behnken - Klingon Chuck Davis - Kzinti Robert Rousse - Fed Vince Romeo - Fed Daryl Kimmel - Orion (Ph1 x4, PhG)

Quarter Finals: A. Russman (Tholian) v Behnken (Klingon) B. Evans (Rom TKR) v Ossenfort (WYN Shark) C. Wampler (ISC) v Sackett (Orion) D. Bakija (Kzinti) v Hidinger (Rom King Eagle)

Semi Finals: Russman (Tholian) v Sackett (Orion) Evans (Rom TKR) v Bakija (Kzinti)

Finals: Russman (Tholian) v Evans (Rom TKR)

Winner: Brian Evans

Comments: Russman had beaten Evans in the Patrol round. I guess Brian did some good tactical thinking on how he would handle the rematch, as he came out the victor in the end.

Many thanks to all the guys who helped make this tournament a big success for us. We hope to see you at Peter's tournament in the spring, and at Council next year (mark Columbus Day Weekend on your calendars).

-Dave Cheng Schenectady Wargamers Association

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 03:49 am: Edit

Peter,

When and where is your tournament going to be held in the spring. I'm transfering to Newport, RI in January (will be there for about 6 months) and I might be able to make it.

Jeremy

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 04:22 pm: Edit

>>When and where is your tournament going to be held in the spring. I'm transfering to Newport, RI in January (will be there for about 6 months) and I might be able to make it. >>

Dunno. It is all a mystery. Somehwere after Totalcon (which is usually in February in Andover MA), not on the time I'm going to be in Europe, hopefully, and before the end of May. And it'll be in Ithaca, NY (which is, like, 6 hours from Newport).

I'll keep ya'll informed.

-Peter

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 03:47 pm: Edit

PAUL SCOTT: I need to hear from Paul Scott ASAP. If anyone can contact him, please tell him to contact me. I need his article for CL#25, ASAP.

By Scott Moellmer (Goofy) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 07:33 pm: Edit

=== Results of Squadron Major tourney (Patrol only, no finals) held at Attactix in Denver, 18 Jan:

1) Andy Vancil, Klingon 2) Aaron Brown, Frax 3) Patrick Abram (Kzinti) and Sy Seibert (Or; A: 2 pl-f/pg/p-1/fb; B: 2 phot/pg/p-1/fb

The Judge was reluctant to allow the Frax to be played, but given that no Ace card was awarded in a SqM, none of the other players objected, and Aaron promised to send a playtest report in to ADB, I finally allowed it.

Consensus is that thing is devastating. Ability to fire 8 p-1's and 4 ol's thru any of 4 shields including a 240 degree field of fire was way more than his foes could handle. ;)

By Scott Moellmer (Goofy) on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 06:59 pm: Edit

=== GenghisCon '03 Results:

1) Andy Vancil, Klingon (3rd Ace for Andy) 2) Dave Miller, Kzinti (first time in finals) 3) Robert Snook (AT) and Richard Sherman (TLM)

20 showed up and battled it out, congrats to Andy, and special thanks to Robert and Richard for flying out from Arizona and smacking around a few Colo captains. ;)

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 06:32 pm: Edit

Had a great time at Totalcon this weekend!

Congrats to Peter Bakija on winning the Rated Ace! (Peter soundly handed me my one loss in six games with the Hydran on his way to the finals in the Kzinti).

Also, many thanks to Kevin for running the tourney.

It was a pleasure meeting so many Northeastern SFBers. The quality and guantity in the SFB community here is truely impressive. Thanks for the great weekend fellas!

By Kevin Block-Schwenk (Starfurry) on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 08:49 pm: Edit

Congrats to Peter Bakija.

We had 22 players, 17 of whom played 2 or more games.

Results from patrol (net kills broken by total kills): 1) Jeremy Gray, Hydran, 4-0 2) Mark Russman, Wyn Shark (BB) 4-1 3) Andrew Sackett, Hydran, 3-0 4) Peter Bakija, Kzinti, 3-1 5) Jason Murphy, Fed, 2-0 6) Joe Kwiatkowski, ISC, 2-0 7) Marcus Giegerich, Orion (HH11B,PDg1f) 4-3 8) David Cheng, Hydran, 3-3

Quarterfinals: Jeremy's Hydran defeats David's Hydran. Mark's Shark defeats Marcus's Orion. Andrew's Hydran defeats Joe's ISC. Peter's Kzinti defeats Jason's Fed.

Semis: Peter's Kzinti defeats Jeremy's Hydran. Mark's Shark defeats Andrew's Hydran.

Finals: Peter's Kzinti defeats Mark's Shark.

Thanks to all for coming! A great time was had by all. Special thanks to those who helped me out logistically.

Finally, let the record show that Jeremy's Hydran defeated Peter's Kzinti in the patrol rounds, before losing the rematch.

By Marcus J. Giegerich (Marcusg) on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 10:38 am: Edit

Congrats once again, Peter!!

Thanks to Kevin for stepping up to judge what turned out to be a fine event. Also thanks to Jeremy Gray for bringing the most impressive set of miniatures I have ever seen. A final thanks to Mark Russman for placating me with concillatory alcoholic beverages after blowing my doors off in the 1st single-elim round.

MG

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 12:00 pm: Edit

Jeremy wrote: >>Congrats to Peter Bakija on winning the Rated Ace! (Peter soundly handed me my one loss in six games with the Hydran on his way to the finals in the Kzinti).>>

As Kevin mentioned, Jeremy's Hydran soundly whacked me in my second game of the weekend. Those darned fighters and their ability to make me roll sixes on important phaser shots...

:-)

Kevin--thanks for running the thing, and thenks to everyone who played. We had a great turn out of excellent players.

-Peter

By Mark Russman (Cannich) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 03:45 pm: Edit

Well done Peter! Wait til next year! grrr :-)

Marcus: you can drink my booze anytime.

I had a wonderful time, and my thanks go out to Kevin for putting up with us all weekend.

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 04:49 pm: Edit

Mark!

Right on--hope to see you at Origins!

-Peter

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 05:44 pm: Edit

Topic reviewed for CL#26 to this point.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 10:43 pm: Edit

Balticon 37 Winners Report: Stephen McCann in the WAX (g1g1)

Other players were: LDR - Doug Howard WAX (11gg) - Matthew Sands RFH - Howard Newby KLI - Ed Carmden

Paul Franz

By Bret O'Neal (Fiverdown) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 12:59 am: Edit

go moose. insert Moose noise here.

By Ken Burnside (Ken_Burnside) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 10:27 am: Edit

Did you get enough for an Ace card, Paul?

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 02:02 pm: Edit

Ken, Nope.

Paul Franz

By Stephen McCann (Moose) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 03:45 pm: Edit

Not even close. Would have been nice to have a few more people though, considering that the cost for 1 day at the con was just $5 less than a 1 year subscription to SFBOL. At least I got 3 games played, my first FTF games since Origins last year. Stephen

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 08:16 pm: Edit

Sorry guys - I had to go to the ER to get an ingrown toenail cut out on Saturday.

By Douglass E. Howard (Doug_Howard) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 09:00 pm: Edit

Gosh Andy I'm pretty sure we could have handled the toenail for you...

By Ken Burnside (Ken_Burnside) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 09:21 pm: Edit

I'm sorry you guys didn't get more in as well. Had I been able to make it I'd've shown up to be a sacrificial player in between demos.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 09:29 pm: Edit

Ken, Understood. I talked to the guy demoing Attack Vector and he had mentioned that you had planned on being there. But something came up.

Paul Franz

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Monday, May 26, 2003 - 01:56 pm: Edit

Paul Franz:

Can you give me a more complete listing so that I can put it in Captain's Log. Use the Captain's Log Format, i.e.,

Name of Convention, Date of Convention, Location of convention (city, state), First Place, Second Place, third place and third place, judge.

Even if not qualified as a rated ace event or a Squadron Major event, it will still be published.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Monday, May 26, 2003 - 05:02 pm: Edit

Steve, Name of the Convention: Balticon Date of the Convention: May 23rd-26th Location: Baltimore, MD First Place: Stephen McCann Second Place: Doug Howard Third Place: Matthew Sands and Howard Newby Number of Participants: 5

Paul Franz

By Ken Lin (Old_School) on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 01:37 pm: Edit

That's not Howard's real last name, is it? LOL

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 02:33 pm: Edit

Ken, That is what he wronte. And no, I don't check his Id.

Paul Franz

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 02:45 pm: Edit

It's either that or Nemby, I'll have to check my records. When I faced him 2-3

years ago, he let my 2 fighters get R0 on his RFH, so Newby is probably the

correct spelling

By David Cheng (Davec) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 12:12 pm: Edit

Not a real tournament report, but...

The Schenectady Wargamers Association's "SFB Practice Day" went pretty well yesterday. We knew Brian Evans was driving in from out of town, but we were pleasantly surprised by Ithacoi Steve Wampler and Chris Proper. With three of us locals (Mark Russman, Kevin Hidinger, Dave Cheng), we had serveral good games.

I didn't keep track of everything, but my senile brain remembers:

* Wampler's Gorn and my Hydran both taking lots of damage, but he took it better than I did. •••• that obscure rule about needing a whole turn to re-energize a repaired phaser when your whole phaser suite was previously destroyed!

* Proper's Lyran over Russman's WYN Shark (Drone x2).

* Evans' Fed in a close game over Russman's Orion.

* Wampler's Gorn over Evans' Fed.

* My Gorn barely over Hidinger's WYN Shark (Drone, ADD).

We're hoping to see a lot of you guys at Council of Five Nations, coming October 10-12.

We've put a lot of work into our web site lately. Check it out at www.swa-gaming.org.

Good luck to all going to Origins!

-DC

By Ben Moldovan (Shadow1) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 12:54 pm: Edit

"that obscure rule about needing a whole turn to re-energize a repaired phaser when your whole phaser suite was previously destroyed!"

???

Never heard of that. Anyone have a rule number?

By Ben Moldovan (Shadow1) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 12:56 pm: Edit

Then again, I've never seen one of those 15 turn barn-burners where both ships

hardly have any boxes left. Usually people concede before that point, that I've ever seen.

By Colin Shiels (Colin) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 01:42 pm: Edit

The obscure phaser capacitor rule being referenced is E2.32 in BS99. However, E2.32 states that if all of the phasers are destroyed, the capacitor system remains energized for the normal period (i.e. 25 turns), though it may not be re-energized after that time unless part of it is repaired.

By David Cheng (Davec) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 06:16 pm: Edit

You know, during the fight, Wampler said it just came up recently with his group back home. So when he told me about the obscure rule, I took his word for it. Now that you've enticed me to read it myself, I think you're right - no need to re-energize the phasers.

The details, in case you're curious... * Turn 5, I lose PhG #6. * Turn 6, I put 4 repair points into it. * Turn 7, I lose my 4 remaining phasers. I have assigned 2 repair points to PhG #6, but it won't be done until the start of turn 8. * Turn 7, Impulse 32, I end the turn at range 1 off one of his down shields, with the intent of giving him a full blast of the newly-repaired PhG on Imp 1 of turn 8. * I announce the repair of PhG #6, and Wampler cites the "obscure re-energize rule". I take his word for it and concede the game. * 15 points of damage would have been huge (decisive) at that point, as we were both beat up pretty bad. I almost certainly would not have conceded if I was able to dish out that damage.

I DEMAND A REMATCH! ;-)

Good luck to all at Origins, -DC

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:32 am: Edit

We'll mail you Wampler from Ohio...

:-)

-Peter

By Ken Burnside (Ken_Burnside) on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 12:24 pm: Edit

In how many packages, Peter?

By Kenneth Jones (Kludge) on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 04:27 pm: Edit

Yes and is he postage due

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:37 am: Edit

Hmm...I guess I'm the first one back. So Origins was a blast. The winners, as far as I can recall were:

Captains: Paul Scott beat Steve McCann in the Captain's Finals. Both of them were playing identical Phaser Pigs (WYN with P1, Gat, P1, Gat, or something).

Patrol: Not really so much a Patrol final.

Saturday Patrol: 2 winners. Jude Hornburg (Selt) beat Chris Proper (Lyran); Bill Schoeller (KE) beat Joe Kwitakowski (Shark).

The new tournament format worked well in many ways, and not so well in others, which I'll discuss over in the "new format" topic, but overall, it was a very solid and enjoyable con. Sadly, the 6 of us from Team Ithaca got totally tooled this year (Chris Proper was our Golden Boy!). Iguess we need to practice more :-)

Someone will probably post a real tournament report soon.

-Peter

By Norman Cruz (Cruiser) on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 03:17 pm: Edit

Here are the latest SFBOL rated ace tournament results:

RAT 11 Results (Q1 – 2003):

1st Place – Norman Cruz (ISC) woo hoo! 2nd Place – Paul Scott (Aux G1G1) 3rd Place – Frank Bradford (Aux 1bGG) 3rd Place – Jude Hornborg (RFH) 5th Place – Bret O’Neal (Orion HHGbb/PPG1F) 5th Place – Kerry Mullan (ATC) 5th Place – Andrew Harding (LYR) 5th Place – Kevin Block-Schwenk (Fed)

RAT 10 Results (Q4 – 2003):

1st Place – Paul Scott (Aux G1G1) 2nd Place – Norman Cruz (RFH)

3rd Place – Ken Lin (Fed) 3rd Place – Tom Carroll (LDR) 5th Place – Dan Beauley (Aux B1ff) 5th Place – Jude Hornborg (LYR) 5th Place – Brian Evans (RKR) 5th Place – Bret O’Neal (RKR)

RAT 12 (Q2 – 2003 / Finals Pending)

Finals – Norman Cruz (Orion HHG1b/fff1F) vs. Bret O’Neal (Orion HHf1b/PPG1F) 3rd Place -- Paul Scott (Aux G1G1) 3rd Place -- Jude Hornborg (RFH) 5th Place – David Beeson (KLI) 5th Place – Kevin Block-Schwenk (WBS bb) 5th Place – Kerry Mullan (KLI) 5th Place – Jason Singleton (ffG1F/HGH1b)

RAT 13 is scheduled to start in September. Don’t miss out, sign up for SFBOL and play.

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 02:44 pm: Edit

Why not just have Norm and Paul flip a coin?

By Paul Scott (The_Rock) on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 08:52 pm: Edit

Based on our records to date in RAT finals, that would not be very fair to Norm.

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 01:49 pm: Edit

It might be more fair to the rest of us though. ;)

By Robert Snook (Verdick) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 11:37 pm: Edit

Hexacon 13 was a bit disappointing with only four or five participants this year. Only one person really managed to play two games.

By Glenn Hoepfner (Ikabar) on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 12:32 pm: Edit

Robert, I'll be there next year (even if I have to schedule a vacation then to assure it). Sorry about not making it this year. What we need to do is go over the starlist and aggressively advertise. I'll do everything that I can to help. Hopefully, next year, I'll be able to find another seltorian player HET and then slip at high speed, allowing me to force a breakdown with a cast web. That was so fun.

By Richard Sherman (Rich) on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 01:28 pm: Edit

Robert,

I, too, will be there next year. As you know, the ongoing situation with my mother has taken all my game time, except what I do over the Internet.

Sorry I missed it.

By Scott Moellmer (Goofy) on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 04:56 pm: Edit

=== Just out of curiousity, Glenn, i have to assume the SC's had already fired? Or as wb's they'da smacked dat web, methinks.. ;)

By Robert Snook (Verdick) on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:21 pm: Edit

yeah, he fired everything beforehand.

By Glenn Hoepfner (Ikabar) on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:40 pm: Edit

Robert is correct.

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 08:56 pm: Edit

Robert, I feel your pain dude.

Paul Franz

By Norman Cruz (Cruiser) on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:17 am: Edit

Congrats to Bret O'Neal whose Orion (PPG1F) defeated my Orion (HHG1b) in the RAT12 finals. Its not as if he had an easy draw, having gone through 3 of the only 6 players (now 7) that have won an onine RAT (David Beeson, Paul Scott and myself) to win the tourney.

The results for the rest of RAT12 were posted previously above.

By Brian Evans (Romwe) on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 05:51 pm: Edit

Congrats Bret!!

By Marcus J. Giegerich (Marcusg) on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:19 pm: Edit

*Begins chant*

Victory write up!! Victory write up!! Victory write up!! Victory write up!!...

By Bret O'Neal (Fiverdown) on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 07:00 pm: Edit

One problem with this is, I'd have to remember the early games. And with no Logs of my games it would be VERY hard. I'd be inaccurate in the least.

By Kerry Drake (Kedrake) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 12:02 pm: Edit

I'd like to be able to complete this table ( and double check it for accuracy). Can anybody help?

Victory Article Tourney Year Winner Ship Origins Fleet Captains 2003 Paul Scott WynAux (g1g1) Origins Patrol 2003

26 Origins Fleet Captains 2002 Paul Scott Orion (FFg1f/HHgBB) 25 Origins Patrol 2002 Tom Carroll Lyran 23 Origins Fleet Captains 2001 Vince Weibert Klingon

Origins Patrol 200121 Origins Fleet Captains 2000 Paul Scott Andromedan (old) 22 Origins Patrol 2000 Kevin Block-Schwenk Klingon

Origins Fleet Captains 1999Origins Patrol 1999Origins Fleet Captains 1998

19 Origins Patrol 1998 Andrew Dederer Hydran Origins Fleet Captains 1997

18 Origins Fleet Captains 1996 Lee Larsen Andromedan (old) Origins Fleet Captains 1995

17 Origins Fleet Captains 1994 Bill Schoeller Federation 12 Origins Fleet Captains 1993 Hohn Cho Kzinti 11 Origins Fleet Captains 1992 Guy Chaney Kzinti 10 Origins Fleet Captains 1991 Paul Paella Romulan Firehawk 8 Origins Fleet Captains 1990 Tom Carroll Gorn

Origins Fleet Captains 19899 Origins Fleet Captains 1988 Sandy Hemenway Kzinti 13 Origins Fleet Captains 1987 Kevin Hillock Orion (FFg1f/HHGBB) 13 Origins Patrol 1987 John Viles ISC 13 Origins Fleet Captains 1986 Jon Van Caneghem Romulan Firehawk

By Stephen McCann (Moose) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 12:07 pm: Edit

In 1999 I won Patrol in the Wyn Aux and Tom Carroll won Captains in the Andro. In 2001 I believe Ken Lin won Patrol, but can't remember what ship he was in.

1998 Captain was won by Tom Carrol in the ATC, 1996 by Tom in the GBS and 1995 by Tom in the Klingon. ( I may have mixed up which ship Tom was flying which year) Stephen

By David Beeson (Monster) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 12:38 pm: Edit

I won patrol in the klink but danged if i can remember which year.

By Ken Rodeghero (Ken_Rodeghero) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 01:17 pm: Edit

Dave,

It was against Allen Phelps' Gorn but I do not remember the year off the top of my head.

Ken

By Ken Lin (Old_School) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 01:34 pm: Edit

I won patrol in the Hydran in 2001. Ralph W won patrol in the Gorn in 1989 (? I will verify the year later tonight).

By Bill Schoeller (Bigbadbill) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 01:42 pm: Edit

I believe I won patrol in 95 in the ATC.

2003 had no patrol tourney.

In 97 Tom won in the Shark, not 96(Lee Larson beat me in the finals in 96)

In 94 I believe that Vince Weibert won patrol(or was it Saturday patrol) in the Fed.

By Stephen McCann (Moose) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 01:45 pm: Edit

In 94 Vince won Sat Patrol Stephen

By Kerry Drake (Kedrake) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 02:47 pm: Edit

Wasn't there a "patrol" tourney from the non captains bracket in 2003? Did the winner of that "sat pat" get an ace card?

By Kerry Drake (Kedrake) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 02:51 pm: Edit

Here is the table with the updates that didn't start with "I think" or "Not sure"

Origins Fleet Captains 2003 Paul Scott WynAux (g1g1) Origins Patrol 2003

26 Origins Fleet Captains 2002 Paul Scott Orion (FFg1f/HHgBB) 25 Origins Patrol 2002 Tom Carroll Lyran 23 Origins Fleet Captains 2001 Vince Weibert Klingon

Origins Patrol 2001 Ken Lin Hydran 21 Origins Fleet Captains 2000 Paul Scott Andromedan (old) 22 Origins Patrol 2000 Kevin Block-Schwenk Klingon

Origins Fleet Captains 1999 Tom Carroll Andromedan (old) Origins Patrol 1999 Stephen McCann WynAux Origins Fleet Captains 1998 Tom Carroll ArcheoTholian

19 Origins Patrol 1998 Andrew Dederer Hydran Origins Fleet Captains 1997 Tom Carroll GBS

18 Origins Fleet Captains 1996 Lee Larsen Andromedan (old) Origins Fleet Captains 1995 Tom Carroll Klingon

17 Origins Fleet Captains 1994 Bill Schoeller Federation 12 Origins Fleet Captains 1993 Hohn Cho Kzinti 11 Origins Fleet Captains 1992 Guy Chaney Kzinti 10 Origins Fleet Captains 1991 Paul Paella Romulan Firehawk 8 Origins Fleet Captains 1990 Tom Carroll Gorn

Origins Fleet Captains 19899 Origins Fleet Captains 1988 Sandy Hemenway Kzinti 13 Origins Fleet Captains 1987 Kevin Hillock Orion (FFg1f/HHGBB) 13 Origins Patrol 1987 John Viles ISC 13 Origins Fleet Captains 1986 Jon Van Caneghem Romulan Firehawk

By Bill Schoeller (Bigbadbill) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 03:55 pm: Edit

2 ace cards were given to the winner of the saturday patrol tournament. This year Jude Hornburg(Selt)(I believe) and I(TKE) won Saturday Patrol.

It is a different tourney, and there are very different requirement to win saturday patrol than regular patrol. Regular patrol requires a 16 player direct elim to win, while the saturday patrol only required to win a 1 game playoff on sunday morning. I did have to beat 4 aces(one of which was a Fleet Captain) in order to win, but Jude had a slightly easier path.

By Ken Rodeghero (Ken_Rodeghero) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:21 pm: Edit

I thought 1989 Captain's was John Viles in a Rom TFH.

Ken

By Paul Scott (The_Rock) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:03 pm: Edit

Kerry, When you do your next update, can you format so that Captain's is seperate from Patrol? Its a nice index, I figure I'll print it out.

By Chris Proper (Duke) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:04 pm: Edit

Confirming Bill's belief that Jude won an ace in the Selt. Also confirming that he beat me handily.

By Kerry Drake (Kedrake) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:48 pm: Edit

Still need 1989 Fleet Captain Identity

Table Sorted Ala Paul Scott

Victory Article Tourney Year Winner Ship Origins Fleet Captains 2003 Paul Scott WynAux (g1g1)

26 Origins Fleet Captains 2002 Paul Scott Orion (FFg1f/HHgBB) 23 Origins Fleet Captains 2001 Vince Weibert Klingon 21 Origins Fleet Captains 2000 Paul Scott Andromedan (old)

Origins Fleet Captains 1999 Tom Carroll Andromedan (old) Origins Fleet Captains 1998 Tom Carroll ArcheoTholian Origins Fleet Captains 1997 Tom Carroll GBS

18 Origins Fleet Captains 1996 Lee Larsen Andromedan (old) Origins Fleet Captains 1995 Tom Carroll Klingon

17 Origins Fleet Captains 1994 Bill Schoeller Federation 12 Origins Fleet Captains 1993 Hohn Cho Kzinti 11 Origins Fleet Captains 1992 Guy Chaney Kzinti 10 Origins Fleet Captains 1991 Paul Paella Romulan Firehawk 8 Origins Fleet Captains 1990 Tom Carroll Gorn

Origins Fleet Captains 19899 Origins Fleet Captains 1988 Sandy Hemenway Kzinti 13 Origins Fleet Captains 1987 Kevin Hillock Orion (FFg1f/HHGBB) 13 Origins Fleet Captains 1986 Jon Van Caneghem Romulan Firehawk 25 Origins Patrol 2002 Tom Carroll Lyran

Origins Patrol 2001 Ken Lin Hydran 22 Origins Patrol 2000 Kevin Block-Schwenk Klingon

Origins Patrol 1999 Stephen McCann WynAux 19 Origins Patrol 1998 Andrew Dederer Hydran 13 Origins Patrol 1987 John Viles ISC

CAPTAINS

Old Andro: 3 Kzinti: 3 Orion: 2 (Same exact packages 15 years apart) Klingon: 2 RFH: 2 WynAux: 1 ATC: 1 GBS: 1 Federation:1 Gorn: 1 PATROL Hydran: 2 Lyran: 1 Klingon: 1 WynAux: 1 ISC: 1

Only ships to make both lists: Klingon and WynAux

What does it all mean? YMMV - But the Kzinti definately needs a downgrade (begins duck and cover).

By Kerry Drake (Kedrake) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 03:28 pm: Edit

Final Sorted Report

Origins Fleet Captains 2003 Paul Scott WynAux (g1g1) 26 Origins Fleet Captains 2002 Paul Scott Orion (FFg1f/HHgBB) 23 Origins Fleet Captains 2001 Vince Weibert Klingon 21 Origins Fleet Captains 2000 Paul Scott Andromedan (old)

Origins Fleet Captains 1999 Tom Carroll Andromedan (old) Origins Fleet Captains 1998 Tom Carroll ArcheoTholian Origins Fleet Captains 1997 Tom Carroll GBS

18 Origins Fleet Captains 1996 Lee Larsen Andromedan (old) Origins Fleet Captains 1995 Tom Carroll Klingon

17 Origins Fleet Captains 1994 Bill Schoeller Federation 12 Origins Fleet Captains 1993 Hohn Cho Kzinti 11 Origins Fleet Captains 1992 Guy Chaney Kzinti 10 Origins Fleet Captains 1991 Paul Paella Romulan Firehawk 8 Origins Fleet Captains 1990 Tom Carroll Gorn

Origins Fleet Captains 1989 John Viles Romulan Firehawk 9 Origins Fleet Captains 1988 Sandy Hemenway Kzinti

13 Origins Fleet Captains 1987 Kevin Hillock Orion (FFg1f/HHGBB) 13 Origins Fleet Captains 1986 Jon Van Caneghem Romulan Firehawk 13 Origins Fleet Captains 1985 Mark Schultz Klingon

Origins Fleet Captains 1984 William Chitwood Federation 25 Origins Patrol 2002 Tom Carroll Lyran

Origins Patrol 2001 Ken Lin Hydran 22 Origins Patrol 2000 Kevin Block-Schwenk Klingon

Origins Patrol 1999 Stephen McCann WynAux 19 Origins Patrol 1998 Andrew Dederer Hydran

Origins Patrol 1997 Bill Schoeller ArcheoTholian Origins Patrol 1996 Geoff Clark ISC Origins Patrol 1995 David Beeson Klingon Origins Patrol 1994 Jerome Bambrick Federation Origins Patrol 1993 Frank Gilson Orion Origins Patrol 1992 Quentin Cantrell Klingon Origins Patrol 1991 Ron Spitzer Orion Origins Patrol 1990 Ralph Wiazowski Gorn Origins Patrol 1989 Don Clarke Federation Origins Patrol 1988 Jay Clendenny Wyn

13 Origins Patrol 1987 John Viles ISC Origins Patrol 1986 Jay Davis Hydran Origins Patrol 1985 Frank Lyman Wyn

Captains Andro (old): 3 Klingon: 3 Kzinti: 3 Romulan FH: 3 Orion: 2 (same packages 15 years appart) Federation: 2 WynAux: 1 ArcheoTholian:1 WynShark: 1 Gorn: 1

Patrol WynAux: 3

Kligon: 3 Hydran: 3 Orion: 2 Federation: 2 ISC: 2 ArcheoTholian:1 Gorn: 1 Lyran: 1

Combined Klingon: 6 WynAux: 4 Orion: 4 Federation: 4 Andro (old): 3 Kzinti: 3 Romulan RF: 3 Hydran: 3 ArcheoTholian:2 Gorn: 2 ISC: 2 Wyn Shark: 1 Lyran: 1

Tom Carroll is on the list six times in six different ships.

By Richard K. Glover (Fahrenheit) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:30 pm: Edit

What does it all mean? YMMV - But the Kzinti Tom Carroll definately needs a downgrade (begins duck and cover).

By Bret O'Neal (Fiverdown) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:58 pm: Edit

Hee hee feds are tied for 2nd over all. Who says the Fed can't win.

By Tom Carroll (Sandman) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:17 pm: Edit

Quote:

Orion: 2 (same packages 15 years appart)

I don't think this is correct. Orion couldn't take fusions in the wings until CL#7 and they wheren't given the two sets of option mounts in CL#8. In 1987 I believe the ship had four FA mounts (Hillock had 4 plasma-F's from what I remember

hearing. or maybe it was his opponent that did and he had two Fs plus two gats) plus the stealth bonus (and back then it worked even if doubling).

And lets not forget the 1985 WYN, that Schultz killed four of, had 43 power and 1/2 movement cost!

Weird ship's mott - Causing tournament havoc since the dark ages!

By Ken Burnside (Ken_Burnside) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:21 pm: Edit

I still marvel that the Really Old Andro with 6 ph-1s, 2 TRHs, the old style PA panels (Look Ma, No Deg and 20% transfer to batteries without a dump!) never won.

I would still love to see a writeup of how the hell Schultz killed those hideous Auxen he faced.

Confirming that the Orion of that era had 4 FA weapon mounts and two wing mounts, and a fully functional stealth bonus.

By Ken Lin (Old_School) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:35 pm: Edit

Also, didn't the 80's Orion have the ability to change it's options every round?

By Ken Lin (Old_School) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:47 pm: Edit

Really Old Andro couldn't HET at 31 though.

By Jude Hornborg (Von_Nasty) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 11:59 pm: Edit

I feel like such a newbie.

By Jason Bennett (Jasonab) on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 01:35 am: Edit

My copy of D2 lists the first Fleet Captain as Jeff Smith (1983) in a Romulan.

jason

By Chris Proper (Duke) on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 05:11 am: Edit

Face it Jude. In SFB life begins at 30. 31 if you use impulse.

By Dave Steele (Blackknight) on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 09:24 am: Edit

Could have sworn the Hydran had taken a hat, but I guess I must be remembering one of the Patrol winners. I've only ever seen this stuff second-hand in Captains Log anyway.

Face it Jude. In SFB life begins at 30. 31 if you use impulse.

True, but it only costs you 20/21 power if you're one of those wretched Wyn Aux Battledogs... ; )

BK

By Michael W. Sweet (Mwsweet) on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 09:04 pm: Edit

In '85 the Orion had four centerline options that could be changed every round. The wings had to be P1 or drone and did not change between rounds. In '86 it was cut back to 3 center options and lost the stealth bonus. The reason that it didn't dominate Origins in '85 was that the ship was first shown there, so no one in the general public had any knowledge of the ship yet. But the Klingon that won still had 7 phaser ones that year.

In '86 the Orion could have 3 gats, but in '87 (when I won a 50+ player tournement with it at Okon) it was down to two gats, but the two packages didn't start till '88. My sometimes faulty memory tells me that in '86 and '87 the Orion could not change options at all.

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 11:38 pm: Edit

While we didn't really have an official tournament, our Battle Group Ithaca hosted SFB day at Cornell University got a very respectable turnout of 11 players, with folks from Albany, Syracuse, and surprise guests Ken "Eagle" Stuart and Shelly "Ms. Starfleet Emeritus" Stuart who randomly showed up as they were visiting from the West coast.

The players and their ships for the day:

-Peter Bakija, Gorn -Andrew Sackett, Selt -Jason Murphy, Gorn -Brian Evans, Archeo -Dave Cheng, Hydran -Howard Sanders, Archeo -Ken Stuart, Hydran -Chris Proper, Kzinti -Steve Wampler, Klingon -Dave Conroy, ISC -Courtenay Footman, Shark

At the end of the day, with a solid, winning, 3-0 record (the only 3-0 of the day, and most people played 3 games) and the Lyran monkey off his back, Chris Proper drove his Kzinti (well, his Kzinti and my counters...) to victory! Go Chris!

Thanks to everyone who showed up!

We are all ramping up for Council of 5 Nations on October 10-12 in Schenectaty NY, which should have a fantastic turn out (last year we had 16 and an Ace card, this year we should have even more players--it's looking to be the SFB event of

the season!). Hope to see y'all there!

-Peter

By Chris Proper (Duke) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 01:10 am: Edit

Howard was in the Neo. The Kzinti is too good.

By Jude Hornborg (Von_Nasty) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 05:34 am: Edit

Say it ain't true, Chris! All my Lyran buddies are defecting to the Kzinti -- first Hellbent, now you. Anything but those "faux felines" would be tolerable (well, maybe not Hydrans either).

Congrats on the victory though, I guess...

By Tom Carroll (Sandman) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:10 am: Edit

Quote:

In '85 the Orion had four centerline options that could be changed every round. The wings had to be P1 or drone and did not change between rounds. In '86 it was cut back to 3 center options and lost the stealth bonus. The reason that it didn't dominate Origins in '85 was that the ship was first shown there, so no one in the general public had any knowledge of the ship yet. But the Klingon that won still had 7 phaser ones that year.

7 phaser-1's?!? WOW! I did not know that. What I've heard about the Orion before 1988 or so is second hand so I'll take your word for it.

Quote:

In '86 the Orion could have 3 gats, but in '87 (when I won a 50+ player tournement with it at Okon) it was down to two gats, but the two packages didn't start till '88. My sometimes faulty memory tells me that in '86 and '87 the Orion could not change options at all.

I think the Orion must have had unlimited option mount changes for 1987 Orions but that was changed after that. CL#6 had the ship down to 1 option mount and that CL was printed just before the 88 Origins. CL# printed in 89 gave allow it to take fusions in the wing mounts. CL#8 which was printed in 90 was when it was given two mounts. I don't no if these changes where announced prior to the print dates but I also don't remember the Orion having two option mount choices until

after Origins 1990.

Anyway, thanks for your info Mike.

I would love for ADB to print a history of Fleet Captains with ship info and the Captains/Patrol trees especially for the older stuff. Throw in some tactics, reports and scenerios and it might be a big seller amoung the tournament crowd.

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:14 am: Edit

Chris wrote: >> Howard was in the Neo.>>

Yes, correct.

>> The Kzinti is too good.>>

Eh. When I win Captain's? Then I might agree...

:-)

-Peter

By Chris Proper (Duke) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 05:23 am: Edit

Jude,

Surely you remember when Gregg went over to the ISC. At that time the Lyran was the laughingstock of the community. I fought to get the tiger an upgrade, and while the 360° p-3s weren't my preference, they get the job done. It was the best I could do for young lions such as yourself. (You haven't arrived until you ace in a ship that is later upgraded) Now I'm jumping ship to see if I can bring the Kzinti down from the inside.

By Jude Hornborg (Von_Nasty) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 10:05 am: Edit

OK, I suppose that's a noble enough objective.

By Marcus J. Giegerich (Marcusg) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 01:22 pm: Edit

Wow Peter, multiple Gorns? That's a new one!! Or for you old schoolers, an old one!!

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 05:25 pm: Edit

Marcus,

Yeah--we didn't do so well. I think the two of us went, like, 1-4 for the day.

-I beat Ken Stuart's Hydran with a drawn out ballet, but he missed with, like, 3 out of 4 Hellbore shots for the game.

-I lost to Conroy's ISC by bolting, doing 30 internals, but only hitting 1 battery when Dave had allocated 1 contingent to HET.

-I lost to Steve Wampler's Klingon in a long, drawn out ballet where at the end of a turn, I relized that I had cheated and launched an enveloper out of the unarmed launcher, and it was too difficult to fix (Steve had the upper hand anyway at that point).

I need more practice in the Gorn :-)

-Peter

By Marcus J. Giegerich (Marcusg) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 06:14 pm: Edit

I can tell you I get plenty of practice against it - Brook takes the freeking thing in every tourney we go to. I can't even judge standard Gorn tactics by him any more, he tries such unorthodox and wacky things. Most of the time, his experiments fail, but when they succeed, they really catch me with my pants down.

I'll be flying Rom TKR this time around, so it looks to be a plasma fest. In other words, the winner this year will be in a Tholian.

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 12:43 pm: Edit

I relized that I had cheated and launched an enveloper out of the unarmed launcher,

That's not cheating, that's creative pseudo usage.

By Andy Vancil (Andy) on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:24 pm: Edit

TACTICON RESULTS

Congratulations to Dave Miller on winning his first Ace Card, in the Kzinti. He beat Scott Moellmer's Orion (HPGBB/HFGBB) in the finals. Scott had some really bad dice turn 1 (his best die roll was a 5), and Dave methodically played up the advantage and picked him apart over the next few turns.

Third place went to William Wilson (Federation) and Aaron Brown (Klingon).

We had a total of 16 players, 4 of whom were Moellmers. Thanks to Scott's wife and daughter for helping us get 16. Scott's daughter Jennifer (Fed) won her match by feeding Mike Moellmer (ATC) 98 points of damage through a WW shift at range 0. She went on to the final 8, where she gave William a tough battle.

Thanks to all for an enjoyable tournament and for keeping the Colorado tradition

of tournaments that award Ace cards.

By Scott Moellmer (Goofy) on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 05:36 pm: Edit

== Do the women in my family have ALL the luck, or what? ;)

By Carl Trubee (Trubecar) on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:44 am: Edit

Congratulations to Jeff McKelvey for winning his first Ace card at DragonCon. He flew the ISC and was undefeated for the entire tournament. His longest and toughest battle was in the finals against the defending champ Fred Manning who took second place in the Shark. Thanks to everyone who came and played at DragonCon this year, I look forward to seeing everyone (and more) there next year.

By Jeff McKelvey (Shyhawk) on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 06:49 pm: Edit

See my report ont he Dragon finals in that board

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 10:56 am: Edit

So it looks like Council of 5 Nations got a total of 34 (?) players.

As of 11:00pm last night, we had:

-Tom Carroll in an LDR had to duke it out with Paul Scott's Hydran in one game of the semi-finals.

-Steve McCann's LIIT WYN was waiting to play the winner of Jame's LeBak's Kzinti vs Mark Russmans's Shark.

So the finals are going to be Tom or Paul vs Steve or someone else...

On my front, I played Gorn against Tom's LDR and did pretty well, and even after I completely forgot to shoot at range 2 ("Hmm. I could shoot the LDR at R2 with 5 P1, a P3, and a F Bolt ashe shoos me with 2 P1 and a Gat on a 6 point shield, *or*, I could not, and let him blow off phasers before I shoot them for no good reason. That sounds like a great idea!"), he had to risk a second HET to kill me. If only for a 5 or 6. My second game I played against Ameer's Romulan and won by virtue of cornering the Romulan, eating a bunch of plasma, and tractoring him on impulse 1 at range 3 with 27 points of tractor power as he tried to cloak out.

We'll see who wins later.

-Peter

By Chris Proper (Duke) on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 12:22 pm: Edit

Marcus and I had just about the closest half hour game I've seen- by impulse 29 both my kzinti and his TKR had taken 70 internals. The difference was the center

warp engine kept the kzinti shuttle bay alive well past crippled status. Who needs time limits?

Paul Scott's hydran just picked me to pieces in about the same time. The instructions I followed were, shall we say 'incomplete'. Peter told me to force a weasel so that's what I did. While the turn 2 anchor succeded I'm re-evaluting the concept of range 1 from a hydran.

Kudos to Tos for a good game. He missed a speed change announcement that could well have won our fight. He then missed with an overloaded disr at range 1 putting him too far behind.

By Chris Proper (Duke) on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 12:29 pm: Edit

James Lebak said he didn't feel good about winning his fight against Brian Evans' TKR. I told him it was because he was flying the kzinti; that ship is just like a school in July- no class.

By Brian Evans (Romwe) on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 11:13 pm: Edit

James shouldn't feel bad about our game. He outplayed me on the decisive turn. And then went on to win his next game. I'm jealous.

-Brian

By Marcus J. Giegerich (Marcusg) on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 11:38 am: Edit

If you lose to Chris Proper, he will give you heavy metal CD's.

Thanks Chris, I should lose to you more often!!

By Scott Moellmer (Goofy) on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 05:32 pm: Edit

=== Is that a reward, or a punishment? ;)