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Dallas Wittgenfeld

April 23rd,2012

This guy’s records are a big question mark. He’s wearing a CIB,but according to his records,he was a commo guy inVietnam,so there is no way he’s authorized to wear a CIB. He’s also wearing infantry brass with the blue background and ablue rope which he’s also not authorized to wear. But his FOIA says he was awarded a CIB;

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But then I’ve never seen a FOIA that listed Letters ofCommendation and Certificates ofAchievement,either. So all ofthatmakes me suspicious. Here’s his record ofassignments from his Form 2-1;

The dates ofhis assignments coincide to the history ofhis two Ranger units,according to the 75th Ranger RegimentAssociation. But like Isaid,ifhe altered his military records to add the CIB,there’s no reason to believe he didn’t alter hisassignments,too. The fact that he’s listed as a 05B20while he was in Advanced Individual training is suspicious,too. I’m surehe wasn’t a Sergeant E-5after four months ofservice.

And here’s a picture ofhim wearing a green beret at the Wall,and that’s a Purple Heart and Ranger scroll on his chest;

According to the Special Forces Association membership rules,he’s not eligible to be a member based on his assignments toRanger units,so the green beret thing is right out.

You and Iboth know from looking at these records that he’s not authorized all ofthe infantry stuff,but how that CIB got in hisrecords,I’ll never know,well,unless he gives up the ghost and tells us the truth. Not holding my breath.

Thanks to the folks at Scotty’s Hideaway,for the stuff.



Posted by Jonn Lilyea in Phony soldiers

84 Responses to “Dallas Wittgenfeld”

1. 1Jeff Says:April 23rd,2012at 6:00am

yeah that is a weird one

2. 2Right Rev Mr. Wolf Says:April 23rd,2012at 7:30am

O5B20-that would be an E-5Radio Operator..in AIT?NOTunless he had a previous MOS. Iwas an O5C10in AIT-radio-teletype. Basically,a clerk-typist who could run a radio and type on a flintstone-era typewriter with a hammer.The Bravos were in class like 4weeks;we had an extra 3for the crypto-gear and teletypes. IFyou had to learn to typefrom scratch,you could be there an additional 6weeks just doing that. Luckily,I‘typed out’and went home aftercomsecportion.Idon’t see HOW this dude could have been a -20in AIT… .

3. 3rb325th Says:April 23rd,2012at 7:58am

He was a 2O in AITbecause he was a shake and bake NCO…This guy is a pompous ass,selfabsorbed narcassist,and in general a total douche rocket..He did serve in Vietnam,was awarded everything on his 2-1…This guy loves to make threats,and to harrass folks who dare to askquestions ofor about him.

4. 4Scottys Hideaway Says:April 23rd,2012at 8:10am

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.307398489297347.61780.100000815946568&type=3

5. 5Hondo Says:April 23rd,2012at 8:43am

I’d guess this guy is just another lying bastard,and in some respects IMO he has already proven that (I’d love to hear his“explanation”as to why he’s been photographed wearing the Ranger beret,the Green beret,the purple heart,and theInfantry cord/discs –none ofwhich his official records show he rates). But the LOCs in his FOIA could be legit,andthere is a way he could legitimately rate the CIB.

Ican’t speakfor the late 60s/early 70s,but as ofthe late 70s/early 80s some commands were still putting certificates ofappreciation and selected training certificates into the OMPF. Ichecked my electronicrecords on file at DA (they’re stillavailable to me online) and verified that I’ve got a couple ofthe former and one ofthe latter in my file. Iseem toremember that GO-level letters ofcommendation could also be filed in the OMPF. So ifWittgenfeld’s personnel clerkswere kinda anal-retentive about things,the LOCs on the FOIA might well be legit.

Further,para 8-6.b ofAR 600-8-22specifically indicates that the 11B MOSneed not be an individual’s primary MOSfor award ofthe CIB. What AR 600-8-22requires is that the individual be (1) assigned to an infantry unit,(2) beformally trained in and awarded an 11-or 18-series MOS(secondary MOScounts),(3) the individual is assigned andperforming duties in that 11-or 18-series MOS,and (4) the individual participates personally in ground combat whileperforming 11-or 18-series duties. IfWittgenfeld was detailed to serve temporarily in an infantry position whileassigned to an infantry unit in Vietnam,participated in ground combat while so detailed,and had previously beendesignated as having an 11-series secondary MOS,then he’d qualify. He’s got an Air Medal,so one possibility is that hegot awarded an 11B secondary and detailed to serve as a door-gunner for a while.



Don’t know how common signal or other enlisted guys in Vietnam getting awarded a secondary MOSofthe 11-serieswas. However,ifIrecall correctly a couple ofthe NCOs Iserved with early in my career had 11-series secondary MOSthat they’d been awarded in Vietnam.

Again,the above is only a plausible explanation;I’m not saying that’s what really happened. Indeed,Wittgenfeld’sphotographically documented tendencies to play fast and loose with what he wears and claims argues otherwise. But itcould be the case. Ifso,both the detail to an 11-series duty position and secondary MOSdesignation should bedocumented in his records ifthat’s part ofthe basis for award ofhis CIB. Perhaps a second FOIA specifically requestingredacted copies ofall documents concerning his award ofthe CIB would spell that out.

6. 6Hondo Says:April 23rd,2012at 8:47am

Whoops –scratch my comment above about the purple heart. His FOIA shows he has the Purple heart w/bronze OLC,so at this point his wearing the Purple Heart is presumably legit.

7. 7Frankly Opinionated Says:April 23rd,2012at 8:51am

This slimy piece ofshit,Dallas Wittgenfeld,is in my sights. Whether or not he is as phony as he seems;he is a lyin’,thievin’piece ofsteamin’dogshit. Little to some,but not to me,he snagged a photo from a page ofmine,then not onlyclaimed it as his,but accused me ofstealing it from him. The O-4SFobject in the photo would like to help me inbringing him an “awakening”. This is one dish that Iwill enjoy serving cold. Deland Florida,Skydive Deland,OrangeCity,Florida are all places ofwhich Iam very familiar. My day will come.

8. 8NHSparky Says:April 23rd,2012at 9:08am

Shouldn’t be too hard to locate someone who was in the units this gent was in to verify bona fides. This one is out ofmyAOR.


Re,my comment #7:The photograph in question,taken 10/26/2011at Rudder DZ,Camp James E. Rudder,Florida;canbe seen here:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2305774798949&set=a.2305741758123.2111250.1086639350&type=3&theater,

10. 10Strike and Kill Says:April 23rd,2012at 9:41am

Dallas is a selfabsorbed asshole who was an RTO type clerkwho was fortunate enough to get sent to an elite unit,although he was there,he loves to toot his own whistle with comments like “62year old twice combat wounded ArmyVietnam Veteran (real deal) War heroe ofthe Airborne Rangers.”And trys to profit from his Purple hearts. Ifoundsome obscure regulation that would support his claim to wearing the Blue Cord,even apologized to him,yet for allintensive purposes,Iam still not comfortable with his claims. Ispoke to a fellow from his old unit,who was an RTOtoo,and he stated that Dallas was there,and because ofsome grandfather reg Dallas was entitled to the CIB,but also inthe same sentence,this fellow (who wishes not to be identified) stated a lot ofthe RTO’s would not wear the CIBbecause it “belonged to the Infantry.”This Dallas guy has no honor whatsoever…

11. 11SJ Says:April 23rd,2012at 9:56am

Sure likes to wear an 82nd patch a lot even though he was only in the Div slightly over a year. At least he doesn’t wearit on right sleeve since he wasn’t there for DomRep or the 3/82nd in VN. Did that many RATToperators get AirMedals?Guess it is possible.



12. 12Tman Says:April 23rd,2012at 10:01am

This is an odd one. Based on what Iread above it seems like this guy is ‘legitimate’in some claims,maybe not in others.Problems seems to be more with the guy himself,and a wish that all his claims were totally fake.


@ #12 Tman:He is legitimate in one facet at least-He is a top-shelfliar and fabricator.

14. 14bkay Says:April 23rd,2012at 10:16am

There seems to be a lot ofthis going on. So he is only part ofwhat he claims to be and not all ofit is fake like others Ihave seen recently. Why make it up,why not instead be proud ofwho you are and what you have done?

15. 15SJ Says:April 23rd,2012at 10:26am

My error… he wasn’t a RATTop,just a RTO. Still question Air medal. What are the other badges (Irecognize CIB andparachutist)?Picture isn’t clear.

The left arm fourige (spelling?) looks like what we wore in the 82nd,but only while assigned to the Div since it is a unitaward from WWII. Do Iremember right that the ribbons over the right pocket are also unit awards?Sure are a lot ofthem. Guess it helps the bling effect.

16. 16CI Roller Dude Says:April 23rd,2012at 10:45am

This one is confusing… .is he wearing ribbons on the right side????— would’nt there be unit cites there?All the years Iwas in Iknew you had to hold a grunt MOSto get the CIB.

17. 17Strike and Kill Says:April 23rd,2012at 11:00am

He only pays attention to the regs that help his cause,which is himself,the others not so much… ..

18. 18JarHead Says:April 23rd,2012at 11:05am

A D.U.Iarrest while flying a plane,you have to be kidding but it was in the news paper. This in it’s selfspeaks volumesabout this “honorable”individual.

19. 19NHSparky Says:April 23rd,2012at 11:07am

BTW–memo to Dallas if/when you get here,ifyou’re gonna threaten to sue Jonn,don’t bother. The line is alreadyaround the blockat the courthouse.

20. 20Hondo Says:April 23rd,2012at 12:04pm

CIRoller Dude:the ribbons on the right side appear to be unit decorations –though they all seem to be missing theirgold frames. They’re authorized for permanent wear ifyou were assigned at the time the were earned by the unit.



Looks to be the PUC, VUC, MUC, RVN PUC, and RVN Gallantry Cross.

21. 21Scottys Hideaway Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm

POWnetwork.org listing of Dallas Wittgenfeld http://pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies1298.htm

22. 22Jonn Lilyea Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm

His entry appearing next to the pirate lesbian doesn’t help him.

23. 23Hondo Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm

Well, IMO he certainly looks better by contrast. Blackbeard of Lesbos ain’t exactly the most attractive individual on thisplanet . . . .

24. 24Hondo Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 pm

Looks like our “buddy” here is modest, too.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2007/08/11/veteran-looking-for-helicopter-to-help-iraq-soldiers-recover/

“I was proud of what I had done, and when I came back, I thought I was a hero — but no one else did.”

Gee, I wonder why.

25. 25NHSparky Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Ah, Veterans Today. It’s all starting to come together now.

26. 26MCPO NYC USN (Ret.) Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm

You guys got it all wrong. Take a closer look … at the beret and mustache’ … it is MONTY … Gen. Bernard LawMontgomery!

27. 27teddy996 Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 1:08 pm

@26- LOL… I knew he looked familiar.

28. 28NHSparky Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 1:09 pm

Actually Master Chief, he kinda reminds me of Doctor Bombay from the old Bewitched series…

29. 29OWB Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 1:31 pm

Seriously – he really does look familiar. Maybe around some Florida Veterans events??

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=365884036782125&set=a.307398489297347.61780.100000815946568&type=1&theater


Dallas trying to defend himself from Stolen Valor…https://www.facebook.com/StolenValor/posts/256941497728788

32. 32OWB Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 pm

Scotty – could you do a bit of cut and past for us? I really don’t want to increase his traffic by clicking to see what heposted.

But, of course, am curious. Thanks!

33. 33Strike and Kill Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm

If he was so worried and cared about todays Vets then why his comments like “NOW LET’S SEE what all youyoungster cry baby Vets have been obscessed with: RA 68037064, Dallas Wittgenfeld, is NOT a POSER” and “Soooo,let’s all go to the media and let them know how you disabled (non combat wounded) younger Vets (mostly Marines)treat the older 62 year old twice combat wounded Army Vietnam Veteran (real deal) War heroe of the AirborneRangers.” and of course there is a butt load more from Scottys place, this shows what kind of a racist he is:http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=356905914346604&set=a.307398489297347.61780.100000815946568&type=1&theater

34. 34Al T. Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm

Hondo has it right. One of my SFC instructors had the CIB awarded as he was cross leveled into an 11B slot and OJTedfor the MOS and subsequently awarded the CIB. This was at FT Huachuca circa 1977.

35. 35OEF_Veteran Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm

Personally I want this bastard hung out to dry in the media around his HOR. If we can bring him out through the mediait will do more to dropkick his ass than anything else. He thrives on the attention and if that attention suddenly turnsnegative it’s gonna hurt him right in his self serving wallet. I think the IRS should also be informed of his schemes.

36. 36Frankly Opinionated Says:April 23rd, 2012 at 7:00 pm

I just posted on the Skydive Deland site at facebook, leaving this post:“Y’all have a guy that jumps out there known as Dallas Wittgenfeld? You might want to let him know that hehas gained a major space in the spotlight this weekend. He is the featured character in this post:http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=29627“Perhaps it will bring him out of the woodwork,(or drive him into the Ocala National Forest).

37. 37Strike and Kill Says:April 24th, 2012 at 12:41 am



I guess the thing that gets me the most is how he talks down to Vets of OIF/AFG like they are nothing, yet he claims todo all this crap for us, he claims to be 100% disabled, yet still can manage to jump out of planes, I am 100% and can’tget around without the use of a cane and brace for the rest of my days, and I especially hate how he tries to make a buckoff of his Purple Hearts. I even came to bat for him over him wearing the Blue cord, what did I get??? He called me aPOG, I have 17 1/2 years in as an 11B, while he uses some grandfather clause in the 670-1 to be entitled to wear a CIB,I earned mine, in my MOS….he ain’t worth the sweat off of any of you guy’s ass to me, a POG wannabe is all he is…

38. 38Nate Says:April 25th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

I am soooooo glad he came to our page to run his mouth. Let this be a lesson to everyone. When a stolen valor adminask you politely for you to privately email your info do it and don’t be a bitch about it. He did this to himself by runninghis mouth. Your a sad sack of shit Dallas.

39. 39Dallas "windsock" Says:April 26th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

Dallas and I have exchanged “Words” and insults many a time concerning his “Tribute to every Unit he was in” Class“A” Uniform he has. He does not wear the 38th Inf Crests which go along with the D-151 patch…He would rather claimthe switch over to “Ranger Unit” than admit he was in D-151 “original” for any amount of time. His 2-1 file, has him“departing Vietnam” (Casual) meaning PCS to us non Vietnam Vet types, on 15 November, the same time the RoyalThai Army “Volunteer Force” was being set up. in November of that same year…so there is no fucking way humanlypossible that Dallas could have been with them, yet he makes claims of being attached or leading patrols for the “ThaiArmy” as a member RTAVF. He is a “hokey wolf”, a “phoney Bologne” as my Dear Mother would say. There are morediscrepancies with Dallas’s stories and claims than one can shake a stick at. But the proof i in his File, and the time hespent over in “The Nam”. Which by the way was a total of maybe “8″ months, 4 with the D-151, and “4″ with the Arty Unit before he PCS’d back to the WORLD…Again…read the 2-1 over, minute by minute and read the Royal ThaiArmy Volunteer force Web page time line, and it does not add up together. History according to Dallas points in hisfavor. He is a Self promoter like “Wild Bill Hickcock” (and like “Wild Bill” his stories aren’t always based upon fact,but give an illusion of truth just for credibility and theatrical sack) He exploits his short time in Vietnam to establish abase of worship among the public, and advance his parachuting career. All he does is salute and jump a lot, salute andjump, salute and jump, and gives fellow veterans who try to correct him the “Bird”. He wants to be bigger than life, withhis “Bigger than Life” parachutes, and banking on his Purple hearts and membership to “several Military units” topropel his civilian image, and create Dollars from supporting troops. He is a RTO who left the 82nd Signal Battalion, tobe a LEG in a LRRP unit…A Commo guy playing the “tough guy” 11B image. Ranger Units were never awardedFrench Fouregerre cords..to this day none of the three RGR BATTs wear them…That is an “82nd Thing” he wearsamong all the other Hodge podge bullshit on hs “Tribute Costume”. (can’t call Thunder Chicken’s Clown suit a“uniform”). He served, earned his purple hearts (from Blanket parties given him by some Gook boot shine boys forfucking their sisters and not “paying” for it). He was in “Nam”…8 months but still in “the Nam”…and unfortunately, helucked out and got a LRRP assignment. I even doubt his “Birth place” since he claims Indiana, and that is also were hisLRRP Unit is from…but nothing Dallas says can be totally believed, as he is a “Self promoter” and it is all about“Dallas’s image”. Screw him.

40. 40Rapidly Avenging Ranger Says:April 26th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

Dallas is 99-44-100% a goof ball. capitalizing on his little stint in Vietnam, as that 8 months was the total sum of hiscareer, and forget about his “Drill sergeant” time…(or hat). and boy does Dallas love to wear “headgear”. All types,Ranger, SF, Flight helmets, WWII steel pots, but never a Maroon Beret…NEVER,,,always has to be “Special” and“elite” with “Dumas Windsock”, the Sky diving Thunder chicken clown from Indiana…what a worthless sack ofKimshi.. A “Nick Rowe” his is not…but what sort of stories does one expect from a “RTO”? A Commo guy, whorealized a little too late, (like a biker who buys a Sportster instead of a BIG Twin HARLEY) that he picked the wrongMOS to wuff shit about. so he embellishes and adds too, and over inflates his exploits, and threatens anyone whoquestions his Abortion Class “A” photo…lol…

41. 41Jonn Lilyea Says:May 9th, 2012 at 12:58 pm



Guess who just emailed to threaten me with some nebulous action.

42. 42NHSparky Says:May 9th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

Wednesday afternoon lawsuit threat, Jonn?

Guess he didn’t know the quota was filled by 9:15 Monday morning.

43. 43NHSparky Says:May 9th, 2012 at 1:21 pm

ETA: Although the emailed threat should move him up a few spots in his bracket when the JMBSV Tournament comesaround.

Seriously, there are so many of these guys falling out of the trees you’re seriously going to have to consider doing aregular tournament and an NIT-style for all those who just didn’t quite have the game to play with the big boys.

44. 44Yat Yas 1833 Says:May 9th, 2012 at 1:40 pm

Jonn, I’ll gladly donate my lunch money to the “Jonn Lilyea Poser Going to Sue You Legal Defense Fund” if that’llhelp!? What a forkin’ LOSER!!!

45. 45OWB Says:May 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Oh, goody – another libel/slander deal? Or should the TAH Brigade get our “uniforms” squared away in case we arecalled out later in the day?

***OWB getting out the popcorn***

46. 46This ain't Hell, but you can see it from here » Blog Archive » Dallas Whittgenfeld; the continued conversation Says:May 15th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

[...] May 15th, 2012 Our newest buddy, Dallas Whittenfeld has been trying to get me to take down my post about him.He’s a real charmer, trust me. He began by threatening me with a lawsuit, which, I’m [...]

47. 47Frankly Opinionated Says:May 16th, 2012 at 7:41 am

Dallas, if you are reading these comments:You are one lyin’, thievin’, sorry piece of shit. You lifted a photo of mine, and then demonstrated yourdumbassery by telling me that I stole it from you. I don’t give a ratzazz about your service record, whether theybe true or false, none of that. You accused me of stealing, and that will be your statement to suffer for. Theperson photographed would like nothing more than for you to stumble in to a certain Ranger Bar and tell thepeople in there, (actual school trained Rangers, now Ranger Instructors), that I stole “your” photo.What was it that Sun Tzu said about a meal best served cold???

48. 48Z Says:May 18th, 2012 at 8:19 am

1. Has anyone called the SFA about him? He has a cert saying he is a member but my 3 year old cousin can make one ofthose with photoshop. I’ve read where he states he was “awarded an honorary lifetime membership” and also that heapplied for it. His retarded chicken new articles state he is a “former Green Beret”. Umm, why would he get an honorarymembership then?



2. Fuck this guy. Got some friends at Bragg that would like to meet him. lol

~Z

49. 49Hondo Says:May 18th, 2012 at 8:22 am

Yeah, Z, the SFA has been contacted. See the new article linked at comment 46.

50. 50Z Says:May 18th, 2012 at 10:10 am

He claimed to have been awarded the membership as an honorary member. They wouldn’t do that for someone whospent a couple of months attached to a SF unit. He was actually PCSing during that time if the dates on his files areright.

51. 51Dragonbeast Says:May 25th, 2012 at 9:31 am

It seems that MR. Dallas Wittgenfeld has decided to post himself as the Phantom Airborne Brigade on Military.Com. Ifanyone knows how to contact Mr. Wittgenfeld, I would appreciate that information, as he has never been a member ofthe Brigade, and he needs to take down his page representing himself as such.(This guy is a total hero faker) all eyes onhim,,,,,,,,

52. 52mookie Says:May 31st, 2012 at 4:11 am

This guy looks like/reminds me of general shepard from modern warfare two, mustache beret and everything

53. 53LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 Says:June 9th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

So,it took you “52 brainiac posts” to figure out Dallas Wittgenfeld IS a twice combat wounded Vietnam War Veteran ofthe elite Airborne Rangers and a “Special Liaison Section” Advisor for the Special Forces trained, Air America flown,and C.I.A. funded mecenaries of the Royal Thailand Army SoF.. Just like he said.

You know..? This makes all your posts you ever made seem uncredible from this point on. If you young Veteran “Bandof Bastards” can’t pin a bronze star on him, NOT HEARSAY, You are screwed. Have you got a picture of him wearinga bronze star..? Didn’t think so..

STOP HARASSING AND DISHONORING COMBAT DISABLED VIETNAM WAR VETERANS OF THE ELITEAIRBORNE RANGERS. SHAME UPON YOU ALL.


Responding to Dragon Breath on comment #51..?

Did you know Ranger Dallas has a USPA D-Rating and round low-level staticline parachutes, too… “Set 10s” Do youknow what that is… I wonder who built them for him… Guest where he jumped them..?

Ohhhh, Yah,on the Phantom Airborne Brigade jumpers manifest..3 times.. Go get a life Mister Phantom ImpostureYourself… How’s that jumping working out for you right now… NADDA.?

55. 55NHSparky Says:June 9th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

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Fuck I hate when the kids are out of school.

56. 56OWB Says:June 9th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

He’s jealous of the attention others are getting this week?

57. 57Hondo Says:June 9th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

Long Range Patrol 41 (I refuse to act like an idiot and toggle the shift key repeatedly like a spastic): no one here isdebating whether or not Wittgenfeld has 2 PHs or was in Vietnam, dipstick. What is in question is (1) whether his CIBis legit, and (2) whether he was ever SF. The answer on both, per Army regs in effect when he served, is . . . no.Informal advisor duty to foreign forces in the RVN entitles him to neither a CIB nor to call himself SF. See the otherWittgenfeld thread for further details.

That’s especially true since, per his FOIA, he appears to have never done so because he was returning to CONUS at thetime he claimed to have served as an “advisor” to the Royal Thai Army.

And I don’t believe even Wittgenfeld himself has ever claimed to be entitled to wear the Ranger tab – though he hasworn the Ranger beret without authority.

58. 58Jonn Lilyea Says:June 9th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

Yeah, folks meet Wittgenfeld who calls himself LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 here. I guess he thinks he proved somethingto us, but I’m still waiting for the orders for his CIB. And, oh, he’s making veiled threats towards Mary at POWNetwork because he’s a class A coward along with being a liar and poser.

59. 59Frankly Opinionated Says:June 9th, 2012 at 8:09 pm

As I have said before; my personal thing in this is that I don’t give a ratsass about what he did or did not do in ‘Nam. Hehas proven himself to be both a liar and a thief. This POS snagged a photo from my wall, (in and of itself, no big deal),but then claimed that it was his photo= THIEF, and further, that I stole it from him= LIAR; neither of which I tolerate. Iwill handle this at a day and place convenient to me, but it WILL get handleds. When he is lying in the Fecal Position,we will have been served.

60. 60Marine_7002 Says:June 9th, 2012 at 9:51 pm

@59 FO: well said. Do you realize you just coined a new phrase – “fecal position”? Gives a different slant to the term“fetal position”. I like it.


Considering what this shit-filled meatsack has pulled, I think fecal position might be more apropriate.

62. 62Scottys Hideaway Says:June 10th, 2012 at 8:12 am

LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 = Dallas Wittgenfeld, The Thunder chickenshit clown that was wounded twice in RVN from aflying c-rat can hitting him in the ass when a arty round hit the garbage dump on the FOB he was assigned to in May of1970 when he supposedly got wounded twice within 3 weeks. The wounds had to be minor in nature as he was notrotated out after the injuries. Dallas Wittgenfeld was a 05B2P & 05B20 during his tour in RVN. Copy that radio manWittgenfeld ? You were assigned to two Ranger units as an RTO in RVN. But you were never in Ranger School . You



also do not have an 11B series MOS listed in your 2-1 files wanna be Grunt.You never trained or led members of theRTAVF into battle. You are a LIAR & an embellish-er who has spent a lifetime lieing about your tour in RVN. Youhave completely dis-respected every American who fought in RVN. I bet you got off the plane , turned around & startedspitting on your fellow comrades as they dis-embarked .You have no honor or pride for the uniform you wore . After allthat .. Thank you & Welcome Home RTO Dallas Witthengeld…~ Scotty


http://scotty-stolenvaloroffendersexposed.blogspot.com/2012/06/dallas-wittgenfeld-army-embellish-er.html

64. 64LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 Says:June 10th, 2012 at 8:40 am

Hi Scotty, Are you going to the big combat wounded Military Gala for the PoW Network, too. I am buying a table forten. What a wonderful time I will have marching around in my Infantry Blue and my CIB… cause I’ll have my dd214with me…. I will be showing it to everybody, there. Having a big hoot on you idiots hereon. How about you jack-offsgo and see if all the OTHER Airborne Ranger como guys were issued 11F-2P secondary MOS…. You will see it iscomon knowledge to the knowledgable… NOT dipshit youngsters… I have also chartered my friends helicopter and Iam packing my parachutes today for my big Veterans Day 2012 week in Branson, Mo. I know important people inimportant places around Branson.


Hey Frankly Opinionated….#59 Chill out man…. I checked your picture closer… I have one just like it; but yours isyours….


FOR EVERYBODY’S ENTERTAINENT: Scotty has been blasted-off every Face Book page with my picture on it…his perssonal too.. even Military dot com has zapped his ass. Welcome to this blog… You follow me just like a dog inheat.. Wonderfull…


I would suggest you march around with the FOIA we provided you with dilly Dallas.It actually gives you more creditthen what your dd-214 does. And yes please show up @ Military Gala wearing your costume. You will make a greatexample for everyone to know what an idiot embellish-er looks like. Toot Toot your own horn fool. All you did byrequesting to be part of the Military Gala is cause Mary to update your file on their Wall of Shame. Sucks being youchicken shit clown. Still waiting on that Bronze Star award letter boy. Oh that’s right , You never claimed that huh ?Tell me did you leave your BS award letter in Ohio ?

68. 68Hondo Says:June 10th, 2012 at 9:43 am

Well, I guess I’ll have to start researching just how to go about requesting a formal inquiry into erroneous and/orfraudulent awards that managed to make it into official records at NPRC. I’m sure the Army and/or NARA has a processfor that.

69. 69Hondo Says:June 10th, 2012 at 9:48 am



By the way, Wittgenfeld: there’s an easy way for you to silence your critics. Post (1) your CIB orders, and (2) eitherformal orders to an advisory position with RVN forces (Royal Thai doesn’t cut it) or 11B secondary MOS orders. Thatshould be enough to satisfy most if not all the folks here that your CIB is legit.

I’m guessing you don’t have any of those, though.


Let us know how the Military Gala goes for you dilly Dallas. Pictures or you weren’t there !


Hey Hondo… You are a johnny cum lately, man. These brainiacs started harassing me for being a military poser… thenthey found out I wasn’t… and was decorated more than them… they went crazy… here I am.. Still wearing my RangerBeret just like I am supposed to… Infantry Blue too. All real combat Ranger Teamers get C.I.Bs brainiac. Commonknowledge.. except for you. Don’t you guys even FEEL STUPID or what. sooo I am coming to a town near you..

72. 72JAGC Says:June 10th, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Not sure how relevant this is, but in response to comment 71. I know a guy who was a 25C and served as an RTO with aRanger team in Iraq. I think what he did was extremely rare but he is legit and the real deal. He wears a CAB and is thefirst to adamantly state that he did not earn a CIB.

73. 73Jonn Lilyea Says:June 10th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Yeah, Wittgenfeld, all you need to do is show us orders for your CIB and we’ll admit we’re wrong. How many monthshave I been saying that? You blow smoke and talk about “historians” who’ll back you up, none of whom have contactedme, by the way, and still no orders. Put up or shut up. And, yes, we will check the order number.

74. 74CI Says:June 10th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

The rule of poseurs is concrete like physics….the blowhards who never stop yammering about how high speed theyare…….never really are.

This rule is doubled for those who walk around looking like a tiger striped Napoleon.


No one’s debating that your DD214 shows you have a CIB, Wittgenfeld. Your FOIA indicates that, too. However, manyof us question whether or not that CIB is legit – and wonder how it got on your DD214.

Hypothetically speaking, it’s possible that a transition point clerk has been convinced to put something on a DD214that’s not legit from time to time. Particularly if the soldier ETSing raises Cain, has a plausible story as to why hedoesn’t have proper orders, and spins a convincing but false yarn about why he qualifies for a not-that-well understoodloophole in the regs.

Hell – CSM’s sometimes try to claim Purple Hearts from Vietnam for MACV-SOG service in 1974. And back up theirclaims with certificates signed by Nixon dated 4 months after he left office.

Provide paperwork backing your claims, and we’ll shut up. But if you don’t produce paperwork, don’t expect thequestioning to stop.



76. 76Yat Yas 1833 Says:June 10th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

Being a Jarhead I can’t comment on the badges, berets, patches, etc. because we don’t use them. I am now absolutelycertain he’s a phony something. Every poser who is called out threatens to sue when they’re trapped. Also the lack ofproviding something as simple as a set of orders say volumes. sheesh!

77. 77Ex-PH2 Says:June 10th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

OK, I’m a bit confused here.

On the left side of his jacket, he’s got a National Defense Service ribbon, Vietnam Service ribbon, and VietnamCampaign ribbon. On the right side of his jacket he has another National Defense ribbon, another Vietnam Serviceribbon, and what appears to be a Navy Good Conduct ribbon.

Why in the blue-eyed world would an Army guy be wearing a Navy decoration? And if you had two hitches in Vietnam,you got a star to add to your original service/campaign medals, not two medals. I knew a few guys who had two stars ontheir Vietnam medals, but that was the 1970s and that war was not so popular then.

Seriously, some of these pictures that show up are funnier than Lenny Bruce was when he was drunk. Keep up the goodwork.


Ex-PH2: Unlike the other services, the Army wears unit decorations over the right pocket vice the left. If you wereassigned to a unit at the time a unit decoration was awarded (or formally attached for 30+ days or for the duration of theperiod for which awarded if shorter than 30 days), they’re authorized to be worn by the individual permanently. Ifyou’re assigned to the unit later, you wear the unit awards previously earned by your unit of assignment while assignedand take them off when you leave.

The unit decorations he’s wearing over his right pocket are, starting at the upper right in the photo, the Presidential UnitCitation; the Valorous Unit Award; the Meritorious Unit Award; the Vietnamese Presidential Unit Citation; and theVietnamese Gallantry Cross Unit Citation.

He’s still f-ed up, because the Army wears all unit decorations in a gold frame. And none of them appear to be on hisFOIA, either – so he’s not authorized to wear them permanently. But they’re at least where they should be, and are inproper order.

79. 79Frankly Opinionated Says:June 10th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

@#66LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41 :Whitgenfeld, first I heard of you copping to being a Liar and a thief. Have you untold your claims on your backtrack?You accused me of stealing your photo. I have seen nowhere any sort of copping to being a lyin’ assed piece of shit.Sobbing the blues here over me calling you both a LIAR and a THIEF ain’t saying anything. The guys that you madethat claim with are not here to read your copout.Your acts will follow you, and I am every bit as chilled out as I care to be as I am calling the time and place on this.Chilling while the meal becomes cold.Nuf Sed


Thanks, Hondo. That clears that up for me. Navy wears everything on the left side, with very few exceptions…or usedto. Maybe that’s changed since I left USNav in 1974. But thanks for the heads up.



Still….am I the only who thinks he looks like a bloviating walrus? Gee, I hope I get to meet him in a bar some night.Maybe I could pull out my United Space Fleet ID and show him my ribbons from the Snake Wars…but that’s anotherstory.

81. 81Old Trooper Says:June 10th, 2012 at 8:06 pm

I don’t want to get in the middle of this whole thing about whatever Witgenfeld has, or hasn’t, done. I just want to makean observation about Mr. Witgenfeld’s behavior in all of this. I have never seen anyone that is more concerned with hisbling than anything else, which leads me to the conclusion he is a complete narcissist. Yeah, my dad was a LRRP inVietnam. Recondo, Airborne, 11B, etc. He only has 1 Purple Heart, but he has 6 holes in him and a scar that runs fromhis sternum to just above his groin for that 1 PH. He doesn’t brag or even talk about his bling and hasn’t in over 40 years(my sister was going to make a shadowbox and put his stuff in it and he refused).

I said that to say this: I find it interesting that someone wearing an 82nd Airborne patch on his left shoulder would bewearing a Ranger beret. I don’t know of anyone that would do so (I’m sure Jonn didn’t wear his black Ranger beret oncehe left the Battalion and if he suited up now wouldn’t wear the tan one, either). Granted, he may wear it all on hisskydiving costume for showmanship, but I find it offensive that he would put on his class A uniform and have it allcocked up like that (especially with that shit eating grin; there’s nothing to smile about in that photo). Then, to get onhere and denigrate others as being jealous because you have more bling than them goes to the character, or lack thereof,of the person doing the bragging.

I’ll get off my soapbox now. It’s been gnawing at me all day, since reading the comments from the man, himself.


#81 – Old Trooper, the surplus stores, unfortunately, carry loads of decorations and insignia for anyone who wants tobuy them.

I lost my bucket hat through several moves since 1974, but I still have the anchor-on-a-screw pin that went on it, which Iwould gladly wear in public.

The sun and moon are not mirrored in cloudy waters. Thus, the Almighty cannot be mirrored in a heart that is obsessedby the idea of “me” and “mine”. — Sri Kamakrishna


CIB, no CIB, this Navy guy doesn’t know one way or the other.

What I DO know is that his attitude and how he treats people sucks ass. Nuff said.

84. 84Marine_7002 Says:June 10th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

Interesting contrast between Whitgenfeld and Clarence “Sonny” Szejbach http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=30342&cpage=1#comment-633570 . Here’s what the article said about Szejbach, and what he said:

Article: “Szejbach spent 45 days in a hospital in Japan before he returned stateside. The prospect of receiving a medalnever entered his mind.”

Szejbach: “When I finally got home and was discharged, I was happy just getting out. At 21 years old I wasn’t payingthat much attention to my discharge papers to see if any awards were listed,” he said.”

Article: “Szejbach voiced more than surprise when he learned of the impending — if long overdue — honors.”

Szejbach: “At first I questioned whether it was a mistake, but I will take them at their word,” he said.”

Draw your own conclusions…



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