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31/07/2015 There’s archeological evidence that Amazons really did exist | Toronto Star http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2015/02/06/theresarcheologicalevidencethatamazonsreallydidexist.html 1/3 HOME NEWS GTA Queen's Park Canada World Investigations Crime YOUR TORONTO OPINION SPORTS BUSINESS ENTERTAINMENT LIFE AUTOS PHOTOS DIVERSIONS CLASSIFIEDS OBITUARIES Inside the Star Most Ontarians don’t like Hy dro selloff plan, Liberals’ internal poll shows The Jays suddenly look like a team that makes sense: Arthur New $82.5 million island airport pedestrian tunnel ‘a win for Torontonians’ News / Insight There’s archeological evidence that Amazons really did exist Archeologists have unearthed evidence of warlike horsewomen at the same time as the Greeks were putting Amazons in their myths. Adrienne Mayor By: Jennifer Hunter Features columnist, Published on Fri Feb 06 2015 Mythical heroes such as Hercules and Theseus married Amazons, but did these intrepid warrior women exist in real life? Or are they just the stuff of Greek myth? Adrienne Mayor, an author and research scholar in classics and the history of science at Stanford University, grapples with that question in her new book, The Amazons: Lives & Legends of Warrior Women across the Ancient World. Our conversation has been edited for length. We think of Amazon women as characters in the mythic stories about Greek heroes. Why do you believe these women really existed? I was amazed by all the archaeological evidence that was starting to emerge, as early as the ’90s and late ’80s. Now that we have DNA and bioarchaeological studies, we can actually tell the sex of skeletons from centuriesold bones. They were finding 20 to 30 per cent of ancient people buried in the steppes, around the Black Sea, were women with their weapons who had battle scars just like the men. I realized no one had gathered all the archaeological evidence that was emerging to show there were warlike horsewomen at the same time as the Greeks were writing about Amazons, putting them in many of the most wellknown myths. In Greek mythology, the Amazons were fierce women from foreign lands. They were said to be as courageous and skilled in battle as the mightiest Greek heroes. So these were barbarian foreign women who were called the equals of men. Amazons did play major roles in the Greek legends. They were in the Trojan War; the Athenians believed they had fought off a powerful Amazon army that had invaded Greece. They had statues and paintings in public places about their victory over these formidable women. According to the Greeks, the Amazons were located in a vast eastern territory called Scythia. In Greek mythology, each hero had to prove his courage by duelling and overcoming an Amazon queen. Hippolyte fought Hercules. Theseus fought with Antiope and then he captured her and took her away to be his wife. Penthesilea was the warrior queen who fought Achilles on the battlefield at Troy. Ancient Greek men loved stories about Amazon women, but their own wives and daughters were kept in a sort of purdah. They were not allowed out of the house unless they were closely accompanied or there was a special festival. It sounds a bit like men who look at porn but would have a conniption if their female relatives stripped for the camera. 24 Toronto ° INSIGHT Video Video VIEW 3 PHOTOS Latest Videos Top News New $82.5M island airport pedestrian tunnel ‘a win for Torontonians’ Sousa calls Ottawa's refusal to help with pension plan a 'partisan stunt' The Jays suddenly look like a team that makes sense: Arthur Ottawa, Queen’s Park to announce Toyota investments Police issue 1,7 35 HOV tickets during Pan Ams NEW Jays open new era with win over Royals Updated The irritating way Olivia Chow took the plunge: Salutin How much an extended election campaign will cost PARTNER CONTENT Focus on excellence makes university a top centre of researc… Toronto.com: Best ice Cream Sundaes in Toronto We might hate airlines, but here are a f… The making of a landmark venue Motorcycle training course gets adrenali… Trump touts new poll numbers while in the U.K. ••••••••••••••••••• Watch more Sign In S Tweet 53 0

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31/07/2015 TheresarcheologicalevidencethatAmazonsreallydidexist| TorontoStarhttp://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2015/02/06/theresarcheologicalevidencethatamazonsreallydidexist.html 1/3HOMENEWSGTAQueen'sParkCanadaWorldInvestigationsCrimeYOURTORONTOOPINIONSPORTSBUSINESSENTERTAINMENTLIFEAUTOSPHOTOSDIVERSIONSCLASSIFIEDSOBITUARIESInsidetheStarMostOntariansdontlikeHy droselloffplan,LiberalsinternalpollshowsTheJay ssuddenlylooklikeateamthatmakessense:ArthurNew$82.5millionislandairportpedestriantunnelawinforTorontoniansNews/InsightTheresarcheologicalevidencethatAmazonsreallydidexistArcheologistshaveunearthedevidenceofwarlikehorsewomenatthesametimeastheGreekswereputtingAmazonsintheirmyths.AdrienneMayorBy:JenniferHunterFeaturescolumnist,PublishedonFriFeb062015MythicalheroessuchasHerculesandTheseusmarriedAmazons,butdidtheseintrepidwarriorwomenexistinreallife?OraretheyjustthestuffofGreekmyth?AdrienneMayor,anauthorandresearchscholarinclassicsandthehistoryofscienceatStanfordUniversity,grappleswiththatquestioninhernewbook,TheAmazons:Lives&LegendsofWarriorWomenacrosstheAncientWorld.Ourconversationhasbeeneditedforlength.WethinkofAmazonwomenascharactersinthemythicstoriesaboutGreekheroes.Whydoyoubelievethesewomenreallyexisted?Iwasamazedbyallthearchaeologicalevidencethatwasstartingtoemerge,asearlyasthe90sandlate80s.NowthatwehaveDNAandbioarchaeologicalstudies,wecanactuallytellthesexofskeletonsfromcenturiesoldbones.Theywerefinding20to30percentofancientpeopleburiedinthesteppes,aroundtheBlackSea,werewomenwiththeirweaponswhohadbattlescarsjustlikethemen.IrealizednoonehadgatheredallthearchaeologicalevidencethatwasemergingtoshowtherewerewarlikehorsewomenatthesametimeastheGreekswerewritingaboutAmazons,puttingtheminmanyofthemostwellknownmyths.InGreekmythology,theAmazonswerefiercewomenfromforeignlands.TheyweresaidtobeascourageousandskilledinbattleasthemightiestGreekheroes.Sothesewerebarbarianforeignwomenwhowerecalledtheequalsofmen.AmazonsdidplaymajorrolesintheGreeklegends.TheywereintheTrojanWartheAtheniansbelievedtheyhadfoughtoffapowerfulAmazonarmythathadinvadedGreece.Theyhadstatuesandpaintingsinpublicplacesabouttheirvictoryovertheseformidablewomen.AccordingtotheGreeks,theAmazonswerelocatedinavasteasternterritorycalledScythia.InGreekmythology,eachherohadtoprovehiscouragebyduellingandovercominganAmazonqueen.HippolytefoughtHercules.TheseusfoughtwithAntiopeandthenhecapturedherandtookherawaytobehiswife.PenthesileawasthewarriorqueenwhofoughtAchillesonthebattlefieldatTroy.AncientGreekmenlovedstoriesaboutAmazonwomen,buttheirownwivesanddaughterswerekeptinasortofpurdah.Theywerenotallowedoutofthehouseunlesstheywerecloselyaccompaniedortherewasaspecialfestival.Itsoundsabitlikemenwholookatpornbutwouldhaveaconniptioniftheirfemalerelativesstrippedforthecamera.24 Toronto INSIGHTVideoVideoVIEW3PHOTOSLatestVideosTopNewsNew$82.5MislandairportpedestriantunnelawinforTorontoniansSousacallsOttawa'srefusaltohelpwithpensionplana'partisanstunt'TheJayssuddenlylooklikeateamthatmakessense:ArthurOttawa,QueensParktoannounceToyotainvestmentsPoliceissue1,7 35HOVticketsduringPanAmsNEWJaysopennewerawithwinoverRoyalsUpdatedTheirritatingwayOliviaChowtooktheplunge:SalutinHowmuchanextendedelectioncampaignwillcostPARTNERCONTENTFocusonexcellencemakesuniversityatopcentreofresearcToronto.com:BesticeCreamSundaesinTorontoWemighthateairlines,buthereareafThemakingofalandmarkvenueMotorcycletrainingcoursegetsadrenaliTrumptoutsnewpollnumberswhileintheU.K. WatchmoreSignIn Searchthestar.comTweet 53 031/07/2015 TheresarcheologicalevidencethatAmazonsreallydidexist| TorontoStarhttp://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2015/02/06/theresarcheologicalevidencethatamazonsreallydidexist.html 2/3Youarerighttopointoutthatcognitivedissonance,hypocrisy,fearandanxiety.Iwillleaveittoclassicistswhowantgointothepsychologicalreasons.GreekmenwereobsessedwithAmazons.ItisoneofthefavouritesubjectsinGreekart.WedontknowhowmanyAmazonsculpturesexistedinantiquity,butmorethanathousandpiecesofarthavebeendiscovered.Theywerepaintedonwinejugsusedinallmalesymposiumsandshownhuntingandatwar.WhatisalsointerestingisthatAmazonswerepopularassubjectsonwomenspottery,theirperfumejars,theirjewelryboxesanditemsusedforsewingorweaving.ThereissomethingaboutGreekprivatelifethatwerenotgettinghere.ThebeliefwasAmazonwomenhatedmen,killedmalebabiesandloppedoffoneoftheirbreastsinordertoshoottheirbowsandarrowsmoreefficiently.Howtrueisthis?ThosearethethreethingsmostmodernpeoplethinkaboutAmazons,andthoseattributeswerementionedinantiquity.TheideathatAmazonsremovedonebreastinordertoshootabowandarroworhurlaspearwasinventedinthe5thcenturyB.C.,andassoonasitwasbroughtupotherancientwritersrejectedtheidea.NotonepieceofancientartshowsAmazonslikethat,soartistsdidntbuyit,nordidtheircustomers.Iwonderwherethisideacamefrom,thesefearfulmenhaterswhopractisedinfanticideandmutilatedtheirownbodies.Itisastrangeidea.OnetheoryisthatsomehowtheGreekshadtoimaginethesewomenassacrificingtheirfemininitytobehavelikemen.Ifthesewomenareindependentandridinghorsesandgoingtowarandhunting,justlikeGreekmen,theymustbeunfeminine.Sotheywouldbebadmothers,theywouldntwanttoraiseanyboysandtheywouldhatemen.Atthesametimethatideawasnotafullstory.ManyancientwriterssayAmazonslovedmenandtheyreallylikedhavingsexwithmenoftheirownchoosing,andtheyweregoodmotherswhosenttheirmalebabiestoberaisedbytheirfathersfamilies.YousuggestAmazonwomeninventedtrousers.WeoftenthinkitwasGeorgeSandorMarleneDietrichwhofirstdonnedmenswear.Insomeofthearchaeologicalexcavations,somearticlesclothinghavesurvived.Thefemaleskeletonsareoftenwearingtrousersandtunicsandboots,likethemaleskeletons.Inthevasepaintings,mostAmazonsarewearingthesewildlycolouredpantsortrousers.Warriorqueensofeasternlandsinventedtrouserssotheycouldtakepartinthesameactivitiesasmen.Greekswearrectanglesofclothingpinnedtogether,likeatoga.Manyancientculturesworetogalikedressbuttheyarenothorseridingpeople.Ifyouridehorsesyouneedsomethingtokeepyoufromchafing.Trouserswereinventedbypeoplewhodomesticatedhorses.TodaywearestillfascinatedbyAmazons,hencethetelevisionshowsWonderWomanandXena:WarriorPrincess.Amazonsareeverywhere.TherewereintheanimatedfilmsforkidsMulanandBrave,aboutyounggirlarchers,andinTheHungerGames.IntherecentHerculesfilm,theAtalantacharacterwasstrong.TherearepowerfulAmazonlikewomenintheGameofThronesseries.IheardMarvelComicsisintroducingThorasagoddessnotagod.ThereisafemaleCaptainMarvelandthereisaMsMarvel.WeresurroundedbystoriesofAmazonwomen.jhunter@thestar.caMoreonthestar.comReadmoreabout:AmazonShiftinggears:Hardworkingpedallerkee...NorthKoreasaysCanadianpastoradmi...Wevaluerespectfulandthoughtfuldiscussion.ReadersareencouragedtoflagcommentsthatfailtomeetthestandardsoutlinedinourCommunityCodeofConduct.Forfurtherinformation,includingourlegalguidelines,pleaseseeourfullwebsiteTermsandConditions.Commentingisnowclosed.31/07/2015 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