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Page 1: The UK Economy in 2011-12 Bumping along…. Dennis Turner Chief Economist, HSBC Bank plc

The UK Economy in The UK Economy in 2011-122011-12

Bumping along….Bumping along….

Dennis Turner

Chief Economist, HSBC Bank plc

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THE RECESSION IS OVERTHE RECESSION IS OVER

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A deep recessionA deep recession

-6.0

-4.0

-2.0

0.0

2.0

4.0

1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

%

QUARTERLY

ANNUAL

Long-term average

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ALL THE LEVERS PULLEDALL THE LEVERS PULLED

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Fiscal policy loosened

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Government finances already in deficitGovernment finances already in deficit

-200

-150

-100

-50

0

50

1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

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-200

-150

-100

-50

0

50

1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010

……and then deteriorated rapidlyand then deteriorated rapidly

March 2010 Budget Report

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Interest rates fall to historic lows

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Lowest interest rates for over 300 yearsLowest interest rates for over 300 years

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

%

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And sterling plummeted

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Sterling takes a poundingSterling takes a pounding

1.40

1.50

1.60

1.70

1.80

1.90

2.00

2.10

2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010

$/£

1.00

1.10

1.20

1.30

1.40

1.50

1.60

€/£

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A slow recovery is underwayA slow recovery is underway

-6.0

-4.0

-2.0

0.0

2.0

4.0

2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

%

QUARTERLY

ANNUAL

Long-term average

Forecast

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RISKSRISKS

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Consumers were the driving forceConsumers were the driving force

-3

-2

-1

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007

% C

HA

NG

E

CONSUMER SPENDING RETAIL SALES

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But underpinned by borrowingBut underpinned by borrowing

-1

1

3

5

7

9

11

13

15

1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

%

75

85

95

105

115

125

135

145

155

165

INTEREST REPAYMENTS/DISPOSABLE INCOMES(LHS)

DEBT / DISPOSABLE INCOMES(RHS)

%

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Consumers are not borrowingConsumers are not borrowing

-8

-4

0

4

8

12

16

20

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010

£ bn

-8

-4

0

4

8

12

16

20

% an

nu

al gro

wth

Housing equity withdrawal (L axis)

Consumer credit (R axis)

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But real earnings squeezedBut real earnings squeezed

-3

-2

-1

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010

Average earnings growthConsumer price inflation

Real earnings growth

%

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A slower recovery than the last recession A slower recovery than the last recession

-3.5

-2.5

-1.5

-0.5

0.5

1.5

2.5

3.5

4.5

5.5

1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

% C

HA

NG

E

CONSUMER

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c) Public sector spending cuts

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So net debt (as a % of GDP) soaredSo net debt (as a % of GDP) soared

25

30

35

40

45

50

55

60

65

70

75

80

1990 1994 1998 2002 2006 2010 2114

% o

f G

DP

Sustainable Investment Rule

March 2010 Budget

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Govt receipts and spending (% of GDP)Govt receipts and spending (% of GDP)

35

40

45

50

55

2009-10 2011-12 2013-14 2015-16

% of

GDP

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Budget to be balanced in four yearsBudget to be balanced in four years

-9

-8

-7

-6

-5

-4

-3

-2

-1

0

1

2008/09 2010/11 2012/13 2014/15

% o

f G

DP

-9

-8

-7

-6

-5

-4

-3

-2

-1

0

1

% o

f GD

P

Emergency Budget June 2010

Budget March 2010

Surplus on current budget:

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Debt burden to peak in three years timeDebt burden to peak in three years time

50

55

60

65

70

75

2009/10 2011/12 2013/14 2015/16

% o

f G

DP

50

55

60

65

70

75

% o

f GD

P

Emergency Budget June 2010

Budget March 2010

Public sector net debt:

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d) Slow growth in key export markets

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In the wrong placesIn the wrong places

0

20

40

60

200820031998

%

0

20

40

60

%

Western Europe

Central & Eastern Europe

BRIC (Brazil, Russia,India, China)

Euro Area southern fringe (Greece, Spain, Italy,Portugal)

Share of UK exports (goods & services):

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Euro Area growth forecastEuro Area growth forecast

-6

-4

-2

0

2

4

2009 2010 2011 2012

%

Germany France

Italy Spain

Euro Area

Annual GDP growth:

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Euro deficits add to the uncertaintyEuro deficits add to the uncertainty

UK

BelgiumItaly

Greece

Portugal

Ireland

Spain

-15

-12

-9

-6

-3

0

%

-15

-12

-9

-6

-3

0

%

2010 2009Annual deficit as % of GDP:

Tier 3 countriesTier 2 countries

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SHORT-TERM OUTLOOKSHORT-TERM OUTLOOK

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Slow fragile growthSlow fragile growth

-8

-6

-4

-2

0

2

4

6

8

1988 1991 1994 1997 2000 2003 2006 2009 2012

%

QUARTERLY ANNUAL

LONG TERM AVERAGE

Forecast

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Inflation – above targetInflation – above target

-2

-1

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

2009 2010 2011

% c

han

ge

mo

nth

on

mo

nth

CPI RPI

Forecast

Target

Range

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Taxes boosting inflationTaxes boosting inflation

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1

1

2

2

3

3

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5

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2009 2010 2011

% c

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ge

mo

nth

on

mo

nth

CPI CPI(Y)

Target

Range

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Inflation – likely to easeInflation – likely to ease

-2

-1

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

2009 2010 2011 2012

% c

han

ge

mo

nth

on

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CPI RPI

Forecast

Target

Range

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And interest rates to stay low for nowAnd interest rates to stay low for now

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

%

Forecast

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THANK YOUTHANK YOU