the saga of theutberga
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The Saga of Theutberga. Theutberga however, was unable to give Lothaire II a son In the meantime, Lothaire had a son with Waldara, his mistress. 856—Lothaire II (king of Italy) Marries Theutberga, Daughter of The Swiss Nobles For Her Dad’s Military Aid. I DON’T REALLY LIKE HER - PowerPoint PPT PresentationTRANSCRIPT
The Saga of Theutberga
856—Lothaire II (king of Italy) Marries Theutberga, Daughter of The Swiss Nobles For
Her Dad’s Military Aid
• Theutberga however, was unable to give Lothaire II a son
• In the meantime, Lothaire had a son with Waldara, his mistress
I DON’T REALLY LIKE HER
(I’LL KEEP MY MISTRESS, WALDRADA)
BUT HER DAD WILL GIVE ME MILITARY
HELP!!!
Lothaire II schemes
I THINK I’LL GET RID OF THAT OLD
SWISS BAG AND MARRY MY SWEET
MISTRESS INSTEAD!!
NEED TO GET AN
ANNULMENT!!!
Lothaire’s Annulment Denied By Pope
HEY NICHOLAS OL’ BUD
CAN I HAVE AN ANNULMENT?
LEMME THINK ABOUT THAT…
NO!!!
DON’T FORGET, I GIVE YOU MILITARY
PROTECTION
Lothaire II Forces Theutberga To Pretend There Were Grounds For
An AnnulmentTHEUTBERGA, YOU MUST SAY THAT YOU COMMITTED
INCEST AND HAD AN ABORTION
I NEED TO GET THIS MARRIAGE ANNULLED
Under Duress, Theutberga “Confesses”
BEFORE I GOT MARRIED I
COMMITTED INCEST AND HAD AN ABORTION
CAN’T WAIT TO TELL
EVERYONE ABOUT THIS!
THIS COULD CHANGE
EVERYTHING
Theutberga Then Enters A Convent To Do Penance
LET’S STICK HER IN A CONVENT WHERE SHE CAN MAKE UP FOR HER
SINS
(THAT WAY I CAN MARRY MY MISTRESS!!!)
I NEED TO COME IN TO
MAKE UP FOR MY SINS
(THAT I DIDN’T
COMMIT)
Theutberga Escapes From Convent
I CAN’T TAKE THIS CONVENT ANYMORE…I WILL RUN TO CHARLES THE BALD FOR
PROTECTION
I DIDN’T DO ITMY MARRIAGE IS TRULY
SACRAMENTAL
MUST GET THE POPE
TO DEFEND MY LEGIT
MARRIAGE
Nicholas Asks Bishops In France To Work With His Legates To Get
The Truth Out of Theutberga
• “Will you please work together with our legates for its deciding under Apostolic aurhority, without craft, malice, or hatred, with no regard for princes or for terrors…”
I WILL SEND 2 LEGATES TO FRANCE TO SEE
WHETHER THE MARRIAGE WAS LEGIT
OR NOT
The Bishops Who Lothaire II knew Would Oppose Him Were Invited To Metz Too Late
For Them To Get There On Time
LET’S INVITE THE POPE’S FRIENDS….AT THE LAST
POSSIBLE MINUTE…
THAT WAY THEY WON’T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT ON TIME
FOR THE MEETING (SNIKER)
Lothaire Bribed Bishops At Metz To Confirm That Theutberga’s Marriage Was
NOT Valid• Pope’s representative
is bribed by Emperor Lothaire II to say the marriage was never legit.
I KNOW I’M THE POPE’S
REPRESENTATIVE, BUT LOTHAIRE WILL GIVE ME MAD MONEY
IF I SAY HIS MARRIAGE WAS
UNLAWFUL
Bishops Roland and Zachery Lie To Pope About Lothaire’s Marriage
SOMETHING TELLS ME
THESE BISHOPS ARE LYING
THROUGH THEIR TEETH
WE HEARD THE ENTIRE CASE AND IT
IS EVIDENT THAT THEUTBERGA AND
LOTHAIRE’S MARRIAGE WAS NEVER LAWFUL
Several Weeks Later…DON’T EVER LIE TO ME
AGAIN….
I HEREBY DEPOSE BOTH OF YOU
YOU BACKHANDLING, GOOD FOR NUTTIN’ SCOUNDRELS
YHIKES…I THINK HE MEANS IT
865—Theutberga Escorted Back To Lothaire II
THEUTBERGA!GOOD NEWS!
I’M BRINGING YOU BACK TO
LOTHAIRE
ALRIGHTY
HE BETTER GET RID OF THAT
@&#$* WHEN I GET THERE
LOTHAIRE IS NOT GOING TO
BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS
Lothaire II (King of Italy) Submits To Pope’s Decision
OH NO
HERE SHE COMES AGAIN
THANKS FOR RUINING MY LIFE
NOW, I’M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE YOU
BACK
I DON’T REALLY LIKE YOU EITHER
I JUST KNOW OUR MARRIAGE
WAS VALID
The Point Of The Story of Theutberga?
• This story shows that the government was obedient towards the pope.
The “False Decretals” of pseudo Isadore
• Around the early 800s, Frankish Nobles Started Deposing Bishops, and replacing them with new bishops.
• To defend their right to remain in office, someone forged a document which we now call the False Decretals.
• The documents were designed to protect the bishops from being deposed.