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The Role of Women in the
Church
The Role of Women in the
ChurchDr. Rick Griffith
Singapore Bible Collegewww.biblestudydownloads.com
Dr. Rick GriffithSingapore Bible College
www.biblestudydownloads.com
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WOWWOWElectricianElectrician
CarpenterCarpenter
(Wider Opportunities for Women)(Wider Opportunities for Women)
CoachCoach
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in the
societ
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in the
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…there are more and more women leaders !…there are more and more women leaders !
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in the
church
in the
church
… we also have many women leaders!
… we also have many women leaders!
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Do men and women have
the same roles in the church?
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Androgyny
Should men and women have
different roles in the church and
society?
In Corinth and
Singapore
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My, how language has changed…My, how language has changed…My, how language has changed…My, how language has changed…
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What's a Woman to Do? 138
Note: The context of all three passages below is public worship.
It looks like 1 Cor. 11 contradicts 1 Cor. 14 and 1 Tim. 2.
1 Cor. 11 1 Cor. 14 1 Tim. 2
Can pray publicly (11:5, 13) Public prayer for men only (2:8)
Can prophesy (11:5) Speaking is prohibited (14:34)
Must be silent (2:12c)
Speaking is OK (implied) Speaking is disgraceful (14:35)
Can't teach men (2:12a)
Can't have authority over men (2:12b)
Veils universal practice (11:16)
Silence universal practice (14:33)
Men praying universal practice (2:8)
Which text is the general rule (norm) and which is the exception?
To see how people have tried to solve these apparent contradictions, see the next 7 pages of the notes!
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1 Tim. 2:121 Tim. 2:12
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"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have
authority over a man; she must be silent."
1 Tim. 2:12 NIV
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have
authority over a man; she must be silent."
1 Tim. 2:12 NIV
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1 Cor. 14:33-34
1 Cor. 14:33-34
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"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain
silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says."
1 Cor. 14:33-34 NIV
"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain
silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says."
1 Cor. 14:33-34 NIV
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"My own
conclusion…
the
Bible does not
permit women to
function in the role
of pastor or elder
within a church."
"My own
conclusion…
the
Bible does not
permit women to
function in the role
of pastor or elder
within a church."
Wayne Grudem, Systematic Theology,
Inter-Varsity Press, 937
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EgalitariansEgalitariansNT Wright
Ben Witherington IIIGordon Fee
Scot McKnightRuth A. Tucker
Walter C. KaiserJim Wallis
Rachel Held EvansGilbert Bilezikian
J.I. Packer Tim Keller
John F. MacArthur C.S. Lewis John Piper
John Wimber Mark Driscoll
Elisabeth ElliotWayne Grudem
ComplementariansComplementarians
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Common Ground
• This isn't as fundamental as the virgin birth, deity of Christ, salvation by grace…
• We all agree to disagree in love• We all learn from God's Word through
others in public settings
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“Beyond the Politics of Pandora's Pulpit”
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Women can and
should take the key leadership
role in the church
Women can and
should take the key leadership
role in the church
Women should not take the key
leadership role in the church
Women should not take the key
leadership role in the church
A look at two sides…
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Basis
Strengths
Weaknesses
Implications
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
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Basis
In the beginning ….
God created man and woman equal.
Genesis 1:27
In the beginning ….
God created man and woman equal.
Genesis 1:27
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
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Basis
God commanded ….
man and woman to rule over the earth.
Genesis 1:26
God commanded ….
man and woman to rule over the earth.
Genesis 1:26
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
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Basis
When man sinned ….
there was a change in relationship, but not in authority.
Genesis 3:16
When man sinned ….
there was a change in relationship, but not in authority.
Genesis 3:16
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
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Basis
In the Old Testament…
there werewomen leaders (e.g., Miriam, Deborah, Esther)
In the Old Testament…
there werewomen leaders (e.g., Miriam, Deborah, Esther)
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
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Basis
In the New Testament…
there are women leaders(e.g. Mary, Priscilla, Junia)
In the New Testament…
there are women leaders(e.g. Mary, Priscilla, Junia)
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
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Basis
Father – Jesus relationship …
= man – woman relationship.
Father – Jesus relationship …
= man – woman relationship.
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
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Strengths
Church can benefit from many gifted women.Church can benefit from many gifted women.
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
+ women leaders show:
endurancecaring
intuition
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Paul opposed women's leadership in the church.
1 Corinthians 14:34-351 Timothy 2:11-14
Weaknesses
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
They lacked biblical instruction?Too emotional?
No public acceptance?
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Implications
Women can and should take the key leadership role in the churchWomen can and should take the key leadership role in the church
Women can become :
Worship LeaderPastor/Teacher
ElderDeacon
Women can become :
Worship LeaderPastor/Teacher
ElderDeacon
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Basis
Strengths
Weaknesses
Implications
Women should not take the key leadership role in the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in the church
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In the beginning ….
God created Adam first, then Eve.God created woman from man and for man
Genesis 2:18, 21 1 Tim. 2:13, 1 Cor. 11:8-9
In the beginning ….
God created Adam first, then Eve.God created woman from man and for man
Genesis 2:18, 21 1 Tim. 2:13, 1 Cor. 11:8-9
Basis
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
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God commanded…
man and woman to rule over the earth, but it does not imply that they have the same roles.
Genesis 1:26
God commanded…
man and woman to rule over the earth, but it does not imply that they have the same roles.
Genesis 1:26
Basis
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
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In the beginning…
women was deceived by Satan first, not man.
1 Timothy 2:14
In the beginning…
women was deceived by Satan first, not man.
1 Timothy 2:14
Basis
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
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1 Timothy 2:11-151 Timothy 2:11-151 Timothy 2:11-151 Timothy 2:11-15
1313For Adam was formed first, For Adam was formed first, then Eve. then Eve. 1414And Adam was not And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and woman who was deceived and became a sinner. became a sinner. 1515But women But women {Gr. she} will be saved {or {Gr. she} will be saved {or restored} through restored} through childbearing-- if they continue childbearing-- if they continue in faith, love and holiness with in faith, love and holiness with propriety.propriety.
1313For Adam was formed first, For Adam was formed first, then Eve. then Eve. 1414And Adam was not And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and woman who was deceived and became a sinner. became a sinner. 1515But women But women {Gr. she} will be saved {or {Gr. she} will be saved {or restored} through restored} through childbearing-- if they continue childbearing-- if they continue in faith, love and holiness with in faith, love and holiness with propriety.propriety.
1111A woman should learn in quietness and full A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. submission. 1212I do not permit a woman to teach I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. silent.
1111A woman should learn in quietness and full A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. submission. 1212I do not permit a woman to teach I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. silent.
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When man and woman sinned…
God asked the man first (assuming man as the leader)
Genesis 3:9
When man and woman sinned…
God asked the man first (assuming man as the leader)
Genesis 3:9
Basis
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
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Basis
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
In the Old Testament…
women took the main leadership role only for special cases.
In the Old Testament…
women took the main leadership role only for special cases.
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Basis
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
In the New Testament…
Paul opposed women as leaders.
1 Corinthians 14:34-351 Timothy 2:11-14
In the New Testament…
Paul opposed women as leaders.
1 Corinthians 14:34-351 Timothy 2:11-14
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Basis
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Another reason might be…
Woman can also be enticers or enticed to evil.
Another reason might be…
Woman can also be enticers or enticed to evil.
Isaiah 3:16Acts 13:50
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Basis
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
… in a marriage
husband (man) is the head of the wife (woman).
Ephesians 5:22-23
… in a marriage
husband (man) is the head of the wife (woman).
Ephesians 5:22-23
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PaulPaul''s Teaching...s Teaching...
Men and women are Men and women are equal but different--equal but different--so the church must so the church must
maintain these maintain these sexual distinctions.sexual distinctions.
1 Corinthians 111 Corinthians 11
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Why maintain distinctions?
Resisting sex distinctions Resisting sex distinctions shamesshames our authorities. our authorities.
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Why maintain distinctions?
Wrong use of a Wrong use of a head covering head covering at the church of at the church of Corinth shamed Corinth shamed their authorities their authorities
(1 Cor. 11:3-6).(1 Cor. 11:3-6).
Wrong use of a Wrong use of a head covering head covering at the church of at the church of Corinth shamed Corinth shamed their authorities their authorities
(1 Cor. 11:3-6).(1 Cor. 11:3-6).
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GodGod''s s Authority Authority StructureStructure
HusbandHusband
WifeWife
ChristChrist
GodGod
"The head of every man is
Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God"
(1 Cor. 11:3 NLT)
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What does "head" mean?What does "head" mean?
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1 Corinthians 11:5-6 NLT
5But a woman dishonors her head if she prays or prophesies without a covering on her head, for this is
the same as shaving her head. 6Yes, if she refuses to wear a
head covering, she should cut off all her hair! But since it is
shameful for a woman to have her hair cut or her head shaved, she
should wear a covering.
5But a woman dishonors her head if she prays or prophesies without a covering on her head, for this is
the same as shaving her head. 6Yes, if she refuses to wear a
head covering, she should cut off all her hair! But since it is
shameful for a woman to have her hair cut or her head shaved, she
should wear a covering.
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Flowing Hair
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Bald Hair
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Bald Mona Lisa
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Strengths
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Based on the practice in the Bible...
...women can support the
leadership more effectively...
...and this is more accepted by the people
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Weaknesses
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
It can have an imbalanced leadership
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Weaknesses
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
The church lacks capable male leaders
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Implications
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women shall not take initiative to be:
pastor (esp. senior pastor!)
preacherelder
worship leader
Women shall not take initiative to be:
pastor (esp. senior pastor!)
preacherelder
worship leader
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Implications
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
For special cases:
women can take the key leadership role
temporarily…
…while training capable male leaders
For special cases:
women can take the key leadership role
temporarily…
…while training capable male leaders
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Implications
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
"When there are simply no men to do the work…
However, women must be cautioned against continuing
in such work after there are trained men available for the job"
Charles Ryrie, The Role of Women in the Church
"When there are simply no men to do the work…
However, women must be cautioned against continuing
in such work after there are trained men available for the job"
Charles Ryrie, The Role of Women in the Church
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Implications
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
Women should not take the key leadership role in
the church
In church, the main leadership roles are assigned to men.
Supportive roles are delegated to women.
In church, the main leadership roles are assigned to men.
Supportive roles are delegated to women.
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Quellendorf, Germany
Mr. Norbert Lindner
Mr. Michaela Lindner
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ConclusionConclusion
Leadership in the
church …
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ConclusionConclusion
…is not to show who has more
authority (men or women)
Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.
Philippians 2:3
Leadership in the church …
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ConclusionConclusion
…should not destroy the
church unity
Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace
Ephesians 4:3
Leadership in the church …
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…is not necessary to
serve God
ConclusionConclusion
Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
Colossians 3:23
Leadership in the church …
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ApplicationApplication
women's ministry children's ministry
administration youth ministry visitation church bulletin choir music cell-group mission-team
counselling prayer meeting preparing teaching materials
What can women do in the church?
… a lot !!!… a lot !!!
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This is what women
should not do …
"But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over
the man, but to be in silence"
1 Tim. 2:12 KJV 1769 ed.
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There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female,
for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians 3:28 NIV
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female,
for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians 3:28 NIV
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Whatever role you have in the church, we are to serve the LORD !!!
Whatever role you have in the church, we are to serve the LORD !!!
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To GOD be the glory…To GOD be the glory…
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The Role of Women in the
Church
The Role of Women in the
Church
Adapted from:
William Siew Tran Thi Xuan Thuy Chumbeni Odyuo Elisabeth Chandra
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The Role of Women
The Role of WomenBibliography
Barclay, Oliver R. The Role Of Women: Leceister, England. IVP, 1984
Grudem, Wayne. Systematic Theology – An Introduction to Biblical Doctrine. IVP
Husbands, Mark and Timothy Larsen. Women, Ministry and the Gospel – Exploring New Paradigms. IVP, 2007
Jewett, Paul K. The Ordination of Women. Grand Rapids, Eerdmans, 1980
Ryrie, Charles C. The Role of Women in the Church. Chicago, Moody.
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