The Point Grey - Cornwall CorridorA Dialogue Resulting in a Safe Solution

Duane Nickull - West 6th Avenue

•Enterprise Software Architect

•Cycling commuter

George Seslija -

Pt. Grey Road & Trafalgar

•Real estate investor

•RecreationalCyclist

Considerations:

• A lot of people & ton of work into proposals.o Please be respectful.o No personal attacks please.

• Certain outcomes beyond ability to predict.o Keep an open mind.

• Everyone is acting in good faith.o You may not agree, but please respect their beliefs.

Common Goals

Greenest City in the world (2020)

Safe places to cycle

City land use part of regional, holistic approach (2040 Plan):Modes: Pedestrian, Bike, Motorized (elec.) Vehicles,

etc.

All Stakeholders: Transit, commuters (cycling, motorized), businesses, land owners, recreational users, environmentalists.

We are cyclists too!

We are for cycling safety!

Work and process to date is good yet brings up question. Some assumptions and details need attention/clarification. Some data does not align with facts uncovered.

We would like to slow down a bit to listen to concerns. Many only aware since May. Build Consensus: Ensure majority has chance to be heard. Safety: One area in particular could result in collisions

Most Importantly:

Work together to build safe consensus!

Today’s Goals:

• Listen to any outstanding concerns about the plan;

• Work offline to address them prior to the vote next week;

• Help craft solutions.

Out of Scope for today’s Conversation

• Reckless cyclists/motorists (existing laws cover)

• Finger pointing or blame.

• Not trying to fix the process of City Hall.

FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt

Some of the claims we have heard?

• “ICBC records show 143 crashes on this stretch of road between 2005-2009, with two thirds resulting in an injury or fatality”.

• ICBC Reports 43 crashes between 2008-2012:

Source: http://www.icbc.com/crashmap-cyclists

No Crashes

Public Consultation?• “Contrary to recent claims that the city is not listening to

citizens, the city notes that it has held 50 meetings with stakeholders and interested groups in the last six weeks. More recently three open houses attracted thousands of people…”

Source: City of Vancouver - http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/Point-Grey-Cornwall-Phase1-Consultation-Summary-April-2013.pdf

Timeframe

Discrepancy

a. Discrepancies in data: Can we maybe sit down to reconcile?

b. Insufficient data available for data modeling of traffic flow (can be mitigated by temporary closure to test assumptions).

c. One block has high potential for cyclist death/injury.

d. Backed up traffic COULD cause more Green House Gasses to be emitted (will be easy to conduct tests to measure/audit before and after).

Some Concerns & Solutions

Existing Hornby St. Separated Bike Lane

22

Seven “Right in / Right out” crossings

in 10 blocks

Seven “Right in / Right out” crossings

in 10 blocks

TWO WAY BIKE LANE

Proposed Bike Lane

66

Ten “All directional” crossings in 2 blocksTen “All directional”

crossings in 2 blocks

44

Considerations?

• Do the proposals:o Minimize conflict between all road users?o Provide a safer environment?

• What do you think?o Should we slow down?o Proceed as per COV recommendations?o Should we try temporary closures to test?o Should it be built as planned (2a or 2b) or another

plan?o Should other stakeholders (ie – regional transit

planners) be included in the conversation?