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THE OMNIPRESENCE OF THE FATHER AND OF HIS SON.
November 2009.THE SDA TRINITY DOGMA.The trinity dogma was deceptively voted into
the SDA Church at the 1980 Dallas, Texas,
General Conference Session. The Trinity dogma
teaches the operational union of three Beings:God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy
Spirit; who are co-eternal, co-equal, and co-
substantial. The spirit of the antichrist denies the
Father and the Son relationship.
Let us look at a few of the implications of this
unscriptural dogma:
1. The Trinity dogma teaches that God theSon became the Son only at His incarnation,
and that God the Son was NEVER the Son inheaven, where He was God.2. They unwittingly reject and deny the many
Scriptures that reveal that the Son was begotten in
heaven. They assert that the God the Son became
the Son only at Bethlehem.3. The Trinity asserts that it was really not
God's Son who came to die for you and me,but a member of the Trinity God who playedthe role of the Son.
4. The Trinity tells us that because theTrinity god is co-substantial, therefore we canpraise, worship, and pray to any of the three.
5. The Trinity dogma created in 481 ADGod the Holy Spirit, a separate independentthird God, a sophisticated form of idolatry.
THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS
BEFORE ME.
"This day the LORD thy God hath
commanded thee to do these statutes andjudgments: thou shalt therefore keep and do
them with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.
17 Thou hast avouched the LORD this day to
be thy God, and to walk in his ways, and to
keep his statutes, and his commandments, and
his judgments, and to hearken unto his voice:
18 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day
to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised
thee, and that [thou] shouldest keep all his
commandments; Deut. 26:16.
"I [am] the LORD thy God, which have
brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out o
the house of bondage. 3 Thou shalt have no
other gods before me." Exo. 20:2.
"Cursed [be] the man that maketh [any]graven or molten image, an abomination unto
the LORD, the work of the hands of the
craftsman, and putteth [it] in [a] secret [place]
And all the people shall answer and say,
Amen." Deut. 27:15.
IS THE TRINITY A FALSE
CONCEPTION OF GOD. No outward
shrines may be visible, there may be no ima
for the eye to rest upon, yet we may bepracticing idolatry. It is as easy to make an
idol of cherished ideas or objects as to fashi
gods of wood or stone. Thousands have a fa
conception of God and His attributes. They
are as verily serving a false god as were the
servants of Baal. Are we worshiping the tru
God as He is revealed in His word, in Chris
in nature, or are we adoring some
philosophical idol enshrined in His place?
God is a God of truth. Justice and mercy arthe attributes of His throne. He is a God of
love, of pity and tender compassion. Thus H
is represented in His Son, our Saviour. He i
God of patience and long-suffering. If such
the being whom we adore and to whose
character we are seeking to assimilate, we a
worshiping the true God. {5T 173.4}
A THOUGHTFUL QUESTION.
Is the "Trinity dogma" idolatry by placianother "third independent god" called the
Trinity before the Most High and His Son,
THE HEART OF THE MATTER.
We recognize that Jesus is the begotten So
of God, and that both have the attributes of
omnipresence through the Holy Spirit that th
share. The Father is omnipresent through H
Spirit, which has a separate personality but n
a separate being.
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1. Is the Holy Spirit a third co-equal, co-
eternal co-substantial independent GOD?
2. Is the Trinity dogma Scriptural or
idolatry?
3. Does Sister White teach the Trinity
dogma in Evangelism p. 601?
THE THIRD PERSON OF THE
GODHEAD. "The prince of the power of evil
can only be held in check by the power of God
in the third person of the Godhead, the Holy
Spirit." (Evangelism, p. 617)THE HOLY SPIRIT IS CHRIST. "The
Holy Spirit is Christ's representative, but
divested of the personality of humanity, and
independent thereof. Cumbered with
humanity, Christ could not be in every place
personally. Therefore it was for their interest that He
should go to the Father, and send the Spirit to be Hissuccessor on earth. By the Spirit the Saviour
would be accessible to all. In this sense He wouldbe nearer to them than if He had not ascended on
high." (EGW, Desire of Ages, p. 669. 1898 edition)
"Cumbered with humanity, Christ could
not be in every place personally; therefore it
was altogether for their advantage that He
should leave them, go to His father, and send
the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth.
The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of thepersonality of humanity and independent
thereof. He would represent Himself as present
in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the
Omnipresent."(EGW,Manuscript Release, No.
1084)
"The impartation of the Spirit is the
impartation of the life of Christ." (EGW, Desire
of Ages, p. 805)
THE HOLY GHOST, CHRIST HIMSELF.
"When God's people take the position that they
are the temple of the Holy Ghost, Christ
Himself abiding within, they will so clearly
reveal Him in spirit, words, and actions, that there
will be an unmistakable distinction between them
and Satan's followers."(EGW, Notebook LeafletsVol. 1, p. 79)
CHRIST THE COMFORTER. "The reason
why the churches are weak and sickly and ready
to die, is that the enemy has brought influences
of a discouraging nature to bear upon tremblin
souls. He has sought to shut Jesus from their
view as the Comforter, as one who reproves
who warns, who admonishes them, saying, "T
is the way, walk ye in it."" (Review & Herald,
August 26, 1890)
"Christ declared that after his ascension, he
would send to his church, as His crowning gif
the Comforter, who was to take his place. Thi
Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his l
the efficacy of His church, the light and life o
the world. With His Spirit Christ sends a
reconciling influence and a power that takes
away sin."(Review & Herald, May 19, 1904)
TWO INDIVIDUALS YET ONE IN
SPIRIT. From eternity there was a complete
unity between the Father and the Son. They
were two, yet little short of being identical;two in individuality,yet one in spirit, and
heart, and character.{E. G. White, The
Youths Instructor, December 16, 1897 par. 5DO YOU BELIEVE YOUR LEADERS TO BE
INFALLIBLE?Do you believe in practice, that the
"theologians" have the authority to change Scriptures
doctrines? Is there a difference between a man made
dogma and Scriptural doctrines? Is a doctrine based
Scripture,the same as a dogma based on tradition?
COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS AND
ACCUSATIONS THAT ARISE.
1. Because Jesus is the begotten Son of th
Most High, then He was created.
Answer: Jesus is the Son begotten in the
bosom of His father by inheritance (genes),
not created, not adopted.
2. Because the Holy Spirit, is spoken of a
the trio, the third power of the Godhead, th
Spirit must be a third separate and
independent God.Answer: There is one God, the Most Hig
two Beings, the Father and the Son; and th
personalities through which the Father
manifests Himself to us, while He is physica
seated on the throne: Father, Son and their
Holy Spirit.
3. There are many verses describing the
Spirit in Scriptures, therefore the Holy Spi
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must be a third independent and separate God.
Answer: The Most High is physically seated
on His throne in heaven, and is omnipresent
through his Spirit everywhere, yet is a Person.
We reject as idolatry the trinity because it makes
God the Holy Spirit, a separate being, co-equal
and co-eternal.And yet, the Holy Spirit is the
third person of the Godhead, a representative
of the Father and of the Son. This is a mystery.
4. The Trinity dogma teaches that God the
Son died. How can God die?
Answer: The Father gave life to the Son.
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath
He given to the Son to have life in Himself;
John 5:26.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also
in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of
God, thought it not robbery to be equal withGod: 7 But made himself of no reputation
G2758 kenoo = emptied), and took upon him
the form of a servant, and was made in the
likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion
as a man, he humbled himself, and became
obedient unto death, even the death of the
cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly
exalted him, and given him a name which is
above every name: 10 That at the name of
Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in
heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things]
under the earth; Phil. 2:5-10.
Jesus emptied, set aside His Godhead so as to
die and was resurrected by the Spirit of His
FatherRom. 8:11.
5. Because the Scriptures teach that Christ
was begotten then the Son is not divine
(God).
Answer: The Psalmist David declared:I willdeclare the decree: the LORD hath said unto
me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I
begotten theeKiss the Son, lest he be angry,
and ye perish [from] the way, when his wrath
is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all they that
put their trust in him.Psalms 2:7, 12; Acts
13:33; Heb. 5:5..
John the Baptist bore witness: And the
Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the
only begotten of the Father,) full of grace a
truth. No man hath seen God at any time; t
only begotten Son, which is in the bosom ofthe Father, he hath declared [him].John
1:14, 18.
The apostle John declared: For God so
loved the world, that He gave his only
begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in h
should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to
condemn the world; but that the world
through him might be saved. He that
believeth on him is not condemned: but he
that believeth not is condemned already,
because he hath not believed in the name of
the only begotten Son of God.John 3:16-1
The Apostle Paul in his epistle to theHebrews, wrote how the Father has spoke
unto us by [his] Son, His heir, by whom al
he made the worlds; Who being the
brightness of [his] glory, and the express
image of his person, who sat down on the
right hand of the Majesty on high; Being
made so much better than the angels, as he
hath by inheritance obtained a more excelle
name than they. For unto which of the ang
said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this d
have I begotten thee? And again, I will be t
him a Father, and he shall be to me aSon?And again, when he bringeth in the
firstbegotten into the world,he saith, And l
all the angels of God worship him. But un
the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] f
ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is
the sceptre of thy kingdom.Heb. 1:1-8.
1 John 4:9 In this was manifested thelove of God toward us, because that God se
his only begotten Son into the world, that w
might live through him.
1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that
Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and ever
one that loveth him that begat loveth him athat is begotten of him.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever i
born of God sinneth not; but he that is
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begotten of God keepeth himself, and that
wicked one toucheth him not.
6. The Trinitarians question the pre-
existence of Christ; they argue that He was
God before the incarnation.
Answer: Moses knew Christ and wrote of
him. Hebrews 11:24-26; John 5:46.
The prophets testified of Christ. Acts 10:43;
3:18; 1 Peter 1:10, 11.
A new being was not brought into existence
at the birth of Christ, but a change was made
in the order of His being. John 1:14; Phil. 2:5-
7; 2 Cor. 8:9.
Christ himself recognized that he had been
with the Father before he appeared in this
world. John 17:5, 24.
Christ declared that he came down from
heaven. John 6:38, 51; 3:13.Christ repeatedly speaks of himself as one
who came from another place to this world.
John 16:28-30; 8:42; 17:8; 8:14; 18:37; 9:39;
12:46; Heb. 10:5-7.
Further testimony is borne to the same fact.
1 Timothy 1:15.
The Son of God existed before the world
was created. John 1:3; Heb. 1:1, 2; Col. 1:12-
16; Prov. 8:22-26.
SCRIPTURE PRESENT THAT JESUS IS
THE SON OF GOD.1Jesus Christ is called the "Son," or "the Son of
God." He was the Son before He was born into this
world (Jn 1:14, 18; Gal 4:4).
2He is the "only begotten" Son of God (Jn 1:14,18; 3:16, 18; 1 Jn 4:9; compare 2 Sam 7:14; Ps 2:7; Lk
3:38; Jn 1:12).
3He speaks of, and to, God as "Father" as One
who bears a unique relationship to Him (Matt 6:9;
7:21; Jn 20:17).4He claimed a unique knowledge of God (Matt11:27).
5He spoke of Himself as "the Son of God" in
such a way that the Jews recognized that He was
claiming divinity, making Himself "equal to" God
(Matt 26:63; Jn 5:18; 10:36).
6The Sonship of Christ also applies to Him as
our Messiah and Mediator (Matt 8:29; 26:63; Jn 1:49;11:27).
7He is the image, the very image of God (2 Cor
4:4; Col 1:15; Heb 1:3).
8He is called the "firstborn" (Col 1:15; Heb
1:6), and the "only begotten" (Jn 1:14, 18; 3:16, 18;Heb 11:17; 1 Jn 4:9). In summary, the Bible indicaHis son-ship goes back in eternity: when and how,
that has not been revealed.
9He pre-existed and was one with the Father
before His incarnation (Micah 5:2; Jn 17:5; Col 1:
10He has life in Himself given by His Father
5:26).
11He is worthy to receive worship (Jn 1:1; R9:5; Phil 2:6; Titus 2:13; 1 Jn 5:20;Jn 5:22-23; 14:Cor 15:19; 2 Cor 13:13; Heb 1:6; Matt 28:19).
12Divine names are applied to Him (Isa 9:6;
40:3; Jer 23:5-6; Joel 2:32; compare Acts 2:21 and
Tim 3:16).
13He has eternal existence (Isa 9:6; Jn 1:1-2;Rev 1:8; 22:13).
14He has omniscience (Jn 2:24-25; 21:17; Re
2:23). He has all knowledge in heaven, on earth, anthroughout the universe.
15He has omnipotence (Isa 9:6; Phil 3:21).16He is immutable (Heb 1:10-12; 13:8). He i
utterly unchangeable.
17He has every attribute that the Father has
(Col 2:9).
18He is the Creator (Jn 1:3, 10; Col 1:16; He1:2, 10).
19Divine Providences come through Christ (
3:35; 17:2; Eph 1:22; Col 1:17).
20Only God can forgive sin, and Jesus can
forgive sin (Matt 9:2-7; Mk 2:7-10; Col 3:13).
21The Father has given to Jesus to be ourJudge and to resurrect from the dead (Matt 25:31-
Jn 5:19-29; Acts 10:42; 17:31; 2 Tim 4:1).22He will have a dominant role in the final
destruction of sin and sinners, and the renewal of
new heavens and the new earth (Heb 1:10-12; Phil3:21; Rev 21:5).
23. CHRIST acknowledged himself to be the So
of God. John 9:35-37; 10:36; 17:5; 5:23; Matthew
27:41-43.
24. Christ assented to the testimony of others t
he was the Son of God. Matthew 16:15-17; John11:27; 1:32-34, 48, 49.
25. There are other testimonies to the fact that
Christ was the Son of God. Romans 1:14; John 19
20:30, 31; Acts 9:20; 2 Corinthians 1:19; Hebrews
4:14; 2 Peter 1:16, 17; Matthew 3:16, 17; John 10:
38; Matthew 26:63, 64.
THE HOLY GHOST OR SPIRIT IN
SCRIPTURE:
1. The Spirit of your Father Mat.10:20.
Ephesians 4:30And grieve not the holy Spirit
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God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of
redemption.
Spirit of God, blasphemy against the Holy
Ghost. Mat. 12:28, 32.
"The Spirit of Elohim Jehovah is upon Me
(Jesus), because YAHUWAH hath anointed
Me (Jesus at His baptism) to preach good
tidings and deliverance"Isa. 61:1.
Jesus is the Branch, and the Spirit of the
Lord shall rest upon Him (Son). Isa. 11:1-5.
Spirit of the Jehovah Isa. 30:13.
The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of God that
descended at the baptism. Mat. 3:11, 16
The Spirit of Him that raised Jesus from the
dead. Rom 8:11.
1 Corinthians 2:11For what man knoweth
the things of a man, save the spirit of man which
is in him? even so the things of God knoweth noman, but the Spirit of God.
2. THE COMFORTER.
John 14:16, 17, 26And I will pray the Father,
and he shall give you another Comforter, that he
may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of
truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it
seeth him not, neither knoweth him:but ye know
him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in
you.But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost,
whom the Father will send in my name, he shall
teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 15:26But when the Comforter is come,
whom I will send unto you from the Father, even
the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the
Father, he shall testify of me.
Mark 13:11But when they shall lead you,
and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand
what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate:but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour,
that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the
Holy Ghost.
Matthew 10:20For it is not ye that speak,
but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in
you.
3. THE SPIRIT OF THE SON.
Galatians 4:6And because ye are sons, God
hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your
hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Philippians 1:19For I know that this shal
turn to my salvation through your prayer, and
the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ.
1 Peter 1:11Searching what, or what
manner of time the Spirit of Christ which wa
in them did signify, when it testified beforeha
the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that
should follow. So Jesus Christ has a Spirit as well.
Romans 8:9But ye are not in the flesh, bu
the Spirit, if so bethat the Spirit of God dwell
you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of
Christ, he is none of his.
1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19Know ye not tha
ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit
Goddwelleth in you? What? know ye not tha
your body is the temple ofthe Holy Ghostwhich is in you, which ye have of God, and y
are not your own?"When God's people take the position that
they are the temple of the Holy Ghost, Chris
Himself abiding within, they will so clearly
reveal Him in spirit, words, and actions, that
there will be an unmistakable distinction
between them and Satan's followers."(EGW,
Notebook Leaflets Vol. 1, p. 79)
Comforter = Holy Spirit = Spirit of Chr
"Christ declared that after his ascension, he
would send to his church, as his crowning gift
the Comforter, who was to take his place. Th
Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of hi
life, the efficacy of his church, the light and li
of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a
reconciling influence and a power that takesaway sin."(Review & Herald, May 19, 1904)
Cumbered with humanity, Christ could
not be in every place personally; therefore
was altogether for their advantage that He
should leave them, go to His father, and sen
the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth
The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the
personality of humanity and independent
thereof. He would represent Himself as
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present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the
Omnipresent."But the Comforter, which is the
Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My
name, He shall (although unseen by you),[THIS PHRASE WAS ADDED BY ELLEN
WHITE.] teach you all things, and bring all
things to your remembrance, whatsoever I
have said unto you" [John 14:26].
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is
expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not
away, the Comforter will come not unto you;
but if I depart, I will send Him unto you"
[John 16:7].{EGW, 14MR 24}
THE LATTER RAIN PROMISE.How can we stand in the day of test if we do
not understand the words of Christ? He said:
"These things have I spoken unto you, being
yet present with you. But the Comforter, whichis the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in
my name, he shall teach you all things, and
bring all things to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have said unto you."It is the holy
Spirit that is to bring to our remembrance the
words of Christ. The theme Christ chose to dwell
upon in his last discourse to his disciples was that
of the office of the holy Spirit. He opened before
them a wide tract of truth. They were to receive
his words by faith, and the Comforter, the holy
Spirit, was to bring all things to their
remembrance. The consolation given by Christ
in this promise was found in the fact that the
divine influence was to be with his followers tothe end.But this promise is not accepted and
believed by the people today, and therefore is not
cherished by them, nor is its fulfillment seen in
the experience of the church.The promise of the
gift of the Spirit of God, is left as a matter to belittle considered by the church. It is not
impressed upon the people, and the result is
only that which might be expected,--spiritual
drouth, spiritual darkness, spiritual declension
and death. Minor matters occupy the mind and soul,but divine power which is necessary for the growth and
prosperity of the church, which would, if possessed,
bring all other blessings in its train, is lacking,
although it is offered to us in infinite plentitude. Just
as long as the church are satisfied with small things,
they are disqualified to receive the great things of
God. But why do we not hunger and thirst after th
gift of the holy Spirit, since it is the means whereby
the heart may be kept pure? The Lord designs tha
divine power shall co-operate with human effort. I
all-essential for the Christian to understand
the meaning of the promise of the holy Spir
just prior to the coming of our Lord Jesus t
second time. Talk of it, pray of it, preachconcerning it; for the Lord is more willing
give the holy Spirit than parents are to give
good gifts to their children. "For God so lo
the world, that he gave his only begotten So
that whosoever believeth in him should not
perish, but have everlasting life." {RH,
November 15, 1892 par. 4}NATURE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT A MYSTER
The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery
Men cannot explain it, because the Lord hanot revealed it to them. Men having fancifu
views may bring together passages of
Scripture and put a human construction on
them, but the acceptance of these views wil
not strengthen the church.Regarding such
mysteries, which are too deep for human
understanding, silence is golden. (Acts of th
Apostles, p. 52)
THE FATHER AND HIS SON SHARETHE SAME SPIRIT.From eternity there was a complete unity
between the Father and the Son. They were tw
yet little short of being identical; two in
individuality,yet one in spirit, and heart, ancharacter.{E. G. White, The Youths
Instructor, December 16, 1897 par. 5}
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE THIRDPERSON OF THE GODHEAD.
We need to realize that the Holy Spirit,who is as much a person as God is a person,
walking through these grounds. Manuscrip
66, 1899. (From a talk to the students at the
Avondale School.) {Ev 616.5}
TheHoly Spirit is a person, for He bear
witness with our spirits that we are the
children of God. When this witness is born
it carries with it its own evidence. At such
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times we believe and are sure that we are the
children of God. . . . Ms 20, 1906. {Ev 616.6}
TheHoly Spirit has a personality, else He
could not bear witness to our spirits and with
our spirits that we are the children of God."
Manuscript 20, 1906. {Ev 617.1}
The prince of the power of evil can only be
held in check by the power of God in thethird
person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit. Special
Testimonies, Series A, No. 10, p. 37. (1897) {Ev
617.2}
The Holy Spirit is the Comforter, in
Christ's name. He personifies Christ,yet is a
distinct personality. 20MR 324.2 Taken from
Ms 93, 1893.
There arethree living persons of the
heavenly trio [GODHEAD]; in the name of
these three great powers --the Father, the Son,and the Holy Spirit--those who receive Christ
by living faith are baptized, and these powers
will co-operate with the obedient subjects of
heaven in their efforts to live the new life in
Christ.-- Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7,
pp. 62, 63.. (1905) {Ev 615.1}
The eternal heavenly dignitaries--God, and
Christ, and the Holy Spirit--arming them [the
disciples] with more than mortal energy, . . .
would advance with them to the work and
convince the world of sin.--Manuscript 145,
1901. {Ev 616.4}
We are to co-operate with thethree highest
powers in heaven, --the Father, the Son, and the
Holy Ghost,--and these powers will work
through us, making us workers together with
God.--Ibid.., p. 617. {7ABC 442.5}
THE 1888 MESSAGE.
The Lord in his great mercy sent a mostprecious message to his people through Elders
Waggoner and Jones. This message was to bring
more prominently before the world the uplifted
Saviour, the sacrifice for the sins of the whole
world.(Ellen G. White, Testimony to Battle
Creek 1st May 1895 written from Hobart,
Tasmania, Australia to O. A. Olsen, MR 1100 Vol.
14, see also Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel
Workers page 91).
This letter was written when Ellen White was in
Australia, 7 years after the Minneapolis General
Conference (1888), and 5 years after Waggoner hadpublished his book (1890).
Sister White wrote:
Many had lost sight of Jesus. They need
to have their eyes directed to his divine perso
his merits, and his changeless love for the hum
family. All power is given into his hands, thahe may dispense rich gifts unto men, impartin
the priceless gift of his own righteousness to t
helpless human agent. (Ibid)
This is the message that God commande
to be given to the world. It is the third angel'
message, which is to be proclaimed with a lou
voice, and attended with the outpouring of h
Spirit in a large measure.(Ibid)Waggoner showed that Christ is truly God. To thi
end he made such statements as (referring to John 1:It is not given to men to know when or h
the Son was begotten; but we know that He w
the Divine Word, not simply before He came
this earth to die, but even before the world wa
created. (E. J. Waggoner, Christ and His
Righteousness, page 9, 1890).
There was a time when Christ proceed
forth and came from God, from the bosom
the Father (John 8:42 and 1:18) but that tim
was so far back in the days of eternity that
finite comprehension it is practically witho
beginning. But the point is that Christ is a
begotten Son and not a created subject. (I
pages 21-22)But the point is that Christ is a begotten Son and no
created subject. He has by inheritance a more excellent
name than the angels. He is a Son over His own house. H1:4; 3:6. And since He is the only-begotten Son of God, H
of the very substance and nature of God, and possesses
birth all the attributes of God; for the Father was pleasethat His Son should be the express image of His person, th
brightness of His glory, and filled with all the fullness of tGodhead. (Ibid page 22)
Christ is in the bosom of the Father; being by
nature the very substance of God and having life in
Himself, He is properly called Jehovah, the self
existing one and is thus styled in Jer. 23:56, where it
said that the righteous Branch, who shall execute
judgment and justice in the earth, shall be known by tname of JAHUWAH-tsidekenu -- THE LORD, OUR
RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Ibid page 23-24)
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Finally, we know the Divine unity of the Father and
the Son from the fact that both have the same Spirit.
Paul, after saying that they that are in the flesh cannotplease God, continues: But ye are not in the flesh, but
in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in
you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is
none of his. Rom. 8:9. Here we find that the Holy
Spirit is both the Spirit of God and the Spirit of
Christ.(Ibid page 23)
This is that the Holy Spirit is both the Spirit of God andthe Spirit of Christ.
Ellen Whites letter endorsing Waggoners message was
written in 1895 whilst her letter condemning Chapmans view
was 4 years earlier in 1891. Unlike the beliefs of Chapman,
Ellen White did not consider Waggoners beliefs as error or
being divisive. This means that in 1895, she did not regard
Waggoners Minneapolis message concerning Christ or theHoly Spirit as being error. She only saw it as uniting Gods
people. In fact by saying it was a message commanded to have
been given by God, she endorsed it as being the truth.
Waggoners views of Christ and the Holy Spirit were those
that were then being taught by Seventh-day Adventists. This iswhy it did not produce any objections at Minneapolis. Note too
that this was the same time period that The Desire of Ages
was nearing completion. Unlike she did with Kelloggs book
(The Living Temple), Ellen White never condemned
Waggoners book, neither did she condemn his views of God,
Christ or the Holy Spirit found therein. She wrote
Cumbered with humanity, Christ could
not be in every place personally; therefore it
was altogether for their advantage that He
should leave them, go to His father, and send
the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth.The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the
personality of humanity and independent
thereof. He would represent Himself as present
in all places by His Holy Spirit, as theOmnipresent."But the Comforter, which is the
Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My
name, He shall (although unseen by you), [THIS
PHRASE WAS ADDED BY ELLEN WHITE.]
teach you all things, and bring all things to yourremembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you"
[John 14:26]. "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It
is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not
away, the Comforter will come not unto you; but
if I depart, I will send Him unto you" [John 16:7].
{14MR 24}In agreement with WaggonerWe know that Ellen White agreed with this part of
Waggoners reasoning because in May 1895, which was only a
matter of 9 or 10 weeks after she had written that letter to the
General Conference endorsing his message at Minneapoli
(see above), she echoed Waggoners thoughts in an article
wrote.
Waggoner had said in his book
It is true that there are many sons of God, but Ch
is the only begotten Son of God, and therefore theSon of God in a sense in which no other being ever
was or ever can be. (E. J. Waggoner, Christ and H
Righteousness, page 12, 1890)
He then addedThe angels are sons of God, as was Adam (Job 3Luke 3:38), by creation; Christians are the sons of G
by adoption (Rom. 8:14, 15), but Christ is the Son of
God by birth. The writer to the Hebrews further showthat the position of the Son of God is not one to whicChrist has been elevated but that it is one which He
by right.(Ibid)Now note how near to Waggoners latter words are
these from Ellen White (this was 5 years later in 1895)
A complete offering has been made; for
"God so loved the world, that he gave his onlybegotten Son,"-- not a son by creation, as we
the angels, nor a son by adoption, as is the
forgiven sinner, but a Son begotten in the
express image of the Father's person, and in
all the brightness of his majesty and glory, on
equal with God in authority, dignity, and divin
perfection. In him dwelt all the fullness of th
Godhead bodily.(Ellen G. White, Signs of th
Times, 30th May 1895, Christ our complete
salvation)Ellen White repeated Waggoner thought for thought
She also said just 6 weeks later
The Eternal Father, the unchangeable one
gave his only begotten Son, tore from his boso
Him who was made in the express image of
person, and sent him down to earth to reveal
how greatly he loved mankind."(Ellen G. Wh
Review & Herald 9th July 1895 The Duty of
Minister and the People)
In 1895, Ellen Whites views of God, Chrisand the Holy Spirit were no different than whwas then being taught by Seventh-dayAdventists. That Christ is begotten (brought forof God therefore because of this He is truly the Sof God. It was also that the Holy Spirit is thepresence of them both (the Father and the Son)whilst they were not bodily present. She did notrecognise these views as peculiar or divisive butkeeping with the Scriptures.