the iron warrior: volume 16, issue 7

8/14/2019 The Iron Warrior: Volume 16, Issue 7

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The Super-FantasticAbsolutely mazing

Co-op Issue .

In this issue ofthe Iron Warrior:

CO-OPCan't Live With It,

Can't at Without It

Yugoslavia - A firsthand account

The New Bike Lockers

The Mac Network - . e r

Upgradable?

Everybody Spews

The IW Short Story

More Opinionsthan you can shake a

stick at

Subway andGino's Coupons


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Alas, interview time is upon usagain. Again, we find out what co-ophas or hasn t done for us. Hopefully,for all our sakes we only have tocontend with a crummy economy andnot just a crummy l1.'lanual systemfilled with inconsis tencies . Moreabout this later.

My spew begins with a lot of stuffthat should be of interest to you. First,the issue of the Engineering SocietyLogo is still at the forefront of thestuff that is happening at present. I in our endeavours. We ll probablyhave a meeting with the Dean, Fidel hear more by Mid-July.Reijerse (A soc Prez), and Mr. Ted Nominations for Exec position s willCross (representative from the UW open June 22 for a period of twol icensing bureau) this week. The weeks until July 3. Campaigning willuniversity has trademarked the logo begin the same day unt i l July 15.to "protect" us. We are trying to reach Elections will be held July 16. Pick upan appropriate agreement that is nominat ion forms in the Orificeequal ly beneficial to both begining June 22.organizations. The semantics The st ructure of EngSoc isinvolved with this discussion are beginning to change. As professorsquite arbitrary, so I l l try not to bore and faculty ask us to do more, our

you now. Talk to mei

you would resources begin to falter as we arelike to know more. I l l keep everyone only volunteers trying to do a job forup to date once I've had the meeting which we w o ~ dnormally be paid.later this week. We are now ta lking about the

The additional portable space loo s incorpora tion of the Engineer ingpromising. The Dean l ikes our Society to establish the liability of theproposals and is fully supporting us executive and the society as a whole.

r - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ~ - - - - , T h i sdiscussion has stemmed

Who owns it

from events that took place atMcMaster last fall. A studentwas injured during anorientation event. As a result, thefamily of the student is suingMacMaster, the dean and thestudent society president. It's notthe kind of thing that is

conducive to studying. As well,as the WEEF continues to grow,will that money be tied into anylawsuits directed at EngSoc?These questions are beingdirected to the universi tylawyer, and hopefully, will beanswered by the next EngSoccouncil meeting. Stay tuned ....

I am s t i l l waiting for a

response from the feds regarding theacquisition of an EngSoc Hot Dogcart. Again stay tuned .... .

Draft will now be served in POETSon a special event basis for 1 .75 per140z cup (or in the 160z POETSmug). This might be expanded i

classes show interest in having draftbeer in POETS on Friday afternoons.Express your interest now

As a further point to the structureof Engsoc, we are now exploring the

possibi l i ty of hiring a full-timebusiness manager to serve as anaccountant for the Society's finances,the maintance of books for the C & Dand a possible investment manger forthe WEEF. This position would helpeliminate the drudgework involved inthe financial paperwork.

The orientation handbook will nowhave advertising in it. The moneygenerated would go to a Joint CouncilCapital Expenditure Endowment. Atthe Fall Joint Council, ideas for thespending of the money would begenerated. The council would thenvote for the best proposals.

Well, that s all I have to say fornow. Midterms are almost over now.I ho ,pe they have gone well foreveryone and I hope the summerremains a very SOCIAL one foreverybody

Take care,

Sean

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The rowding out of the EnvironmentFor those of you who manage to

find time to read mainstreamnewspapers while at school, you wil l

know that there was recently amassive environmental summit inR: 0 Brazil. This summit wasattended by leaders of most of thecountries in the world and it washoped that through this summitconcrete ini t ia t ives to hal t thedestruction of our env ironment couldbe developed.

Much of the ecological ruin thatexists in the world today is indeveloping coun tries (includingformer east Europe) and a primaryobjective of this summit was to assistthese countries, through money,information and technology, to slowand repair the environmental damagethat has been caused in theircountries.

While the finger of blame for thisdamage can be pointed in manydirections, a primary problem in thedeveloping world is overpopulation.Simply put, too many people arecompeting for too few resources, be itland, water or minerals, and theenvironment is being pushed past thepoint from which it can recoverwithout help.

t was assum ed that the subject ofoverpopulati on would be a primarytopic of conversat ion in the Reo

Any Co-op s tudent you talk to , itdoesn t matter who, they ve all hadenough of Needless Hell . It's not likeno one knows it. The students knowit, Co-op knows it , everyone knows it.That s not to say that the studentsdon t appreciate the Co-op system, it'swhy most of us came here. Thebenefits are obvious, cash to putourselves through school, two yearsof practical (well, at least morepractical than being a student painter)work experience and a chance toexpand your horizons by theoppourtuni ty to live and work innumerous locations. That doesn tseem to be on the top of too manystudent s mindsright now does it.

Face it, we re all fed up with theway Co-op is run. Their aloofindifference angers everyone. I can tthink of someone who hasn t been aresult of a Co-op screw up at leastonce. In my own case, Co-op has sentout incorrect transcripts and failed toinform me of two interviews. But

then again they ve also worked twomonths into awork term to find me ajob and for that I m grateful. Here smy biggest problem with the entireCo-op situation. Nobody really cares1

It's everybodies biggest gripe, but inthe t radi t ional Canadian/UWEngineering way, except for a smallminority, nobody wants to do a thingabout it. It's much easier to complain,drink beer and when things don t

negotiations . By dealing with thisproblem now, hopefully we can arresta population growth rate that willlikely lead to mass extinction in theanimal and plant kingdom, and massstarvation in the human populace inthe not so distant future . The effects ofhuge populations are alread y beingfelt in Africa, as that country dealswill a drought worse th an any in itshistory.

Unfortunately the to p ic of overpopulation was removed from theagenda due to in terference andpressure from two summitparticipants . The United States andthe Vatican, two extremely powerfulbodies, together forced the topic sremoval. As a world leader the USdeserves severe criticism for thisaction. t most likely resUlted from thecurrent non-abortion fury that isgripping the Bush administration andtheir fear that an internationalposi t ion on birth control coulddamage the conservative presidentialcampaign that they are running. TheUS has once again failed to live up toits sel f procla imed world leaderstatus.

The more frightening aspect of thedecision not to deal withoverpopula tion is the Vatican sposition. While public opinion in theUS will hopefully change its leaders

work out, tell everyone that it s Coop s fault. I don t buy it. Unti l peoplestart making their complaints heard,their grievences known, all they redoing is crying over spilt milk.Currently, our fearless Prez, SeanMurphy is organizing and compiling

a list of student s complaints andthat's a good start. But much more isin order. You think Co-op ismisspending your 300+ dollars? Dosomething about it

Here are some suggestions. Lookinto joining S.A.c. (Students AdvisingCo-op). Ask your co-ordinator for afull disclosure of his/her expenses.Hell, go ask Needles for your Co-opfee back. Of course they ll just say

policies in the future , the Vatican ' sposition is much deeper entrenchedand not likely to change . The Vaticanhas traditionally labelled all forms ofbirth control a si n . While I support theconstitutional right to freedom ofreligion that exists in nearly everyfirst world country, I have cannotaccept a situation where someoneelse s religion infringes upon myfreedom. The Vatican s refusal toaccept that abstinence is not a viableoption to deal with overpopulationand that birth control methods arenecessary to save what is left of ourecosystem, will result in direct costsnot only to those who practice thisreligion, but to every member of thisplanet. The destruction of theenvironment by a population growingout of control will hurt every singleperson in every country, regardless ofits weal th or st a tu s . Already firstworld nat ions are at tempting todecide how much money each canafford to give to those countriesheaded for disaster. That money willbe paid by those nation's taxpayers.

t is within the rights of any religionto require its members to acceptwhatever criteria it deems necessary ,but t also the responsibility of thatreligion to deal with the consequencesof those criteria. The policies of theVatican are contributing significa ntly

jyou can t have it, but at least you will

be heard. Imagine a thousandEngineers converging on Needles theMonday after this is printed (Monday,June 22) asking for their money back.Get the picture? Why there hasn tbeen an organized demonstrationinvolving all faculities in the past, Idon t know.

Students in other faculites can dropout of Co-op anytime they like. Wedon t have that luxury. We all know

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to the destruction of our world, and ifthey want to continue to enforce thesepolicies then they must accept theresulting cost. I don t think even theRom an Catholic chu rch's pockets arethat deep.

As (lfl aside, it seems that I have becol/lethe butt of a joke by the engnewslettereditors as a reslllt of a comment madeabout a tasteless joke they prillted. I m /lotsure what you two think you haveaccomplislled by tlris bit of stllpidihj, blltyou ave made yourself look like cf,ildrell.Crow lip alld act your age. 11 yes, alld bythe way the W does 11 t print al1onYl/lousletters.

that we have a system th e gives us

great advantages over otherUniversities, but Waterloo is too smugabout their Co-op system. We need it,but it doesn t mean we have to like it.Unless people do something, nothingis going to change and I think the Coop is counting on that.


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Dear IW

This comment is concerning the'reeking pile' which is decorating theEngineering Lecture Hall's FIREESCAPE (closest to E1). This deposithas been attracting flies, bacteria,vermin and lots of other things(Mathies, etc.) to our otherwiseprestigous underground world. It hasbeen seen and smelt by many for over

two weeksEven though these stairwells are

used for emergency purposes only,they should be kept clear of fecies. Inan emergency situation, I wouldn'twant to be slipping and slidding andgetting trampled, so who ever the'Pooper Scooper Dude' is, clean it up.

Brian 8alkwill1B Civil

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Dear IW ,

This letter is in response to theP Eng -Why Bother? editorial thatappeared in the June 5 IW.

It seems to me that there is anincreasing tendency in the world todayto generalize blame and place it onsociety as a whole . As far as Iunderstand it , society is made up ofindividuals and it is a cumulativereflection of each person 's ideas andactions. For this reason I don 't agreewith the idea that the title"Professional " will make an engineermore repsonsible because of his/heraccountablility to some organization.It seems to me that it is an evengreater responsiblility to beaccountable to our own conscience. Ifan engineer is going to do a sloppyjob because he isn't concerned anddedicated to the productive and safeoutcome of his work then he will do sowhether hie is a member of the APEO

or not. Engineers who care very littleabout their duty to society or theirresponibility to their work will not caremore simply because they aresupposed to be "Professional". Tgheethical component is within eachengineer to do his/her very best, notwithin a liscense they've paid for. Ibelieve that knowledge, wisdom,concern for society, and respect forthe environment must be an inbredpart of every engineer's values,otherwide, in my mind, they shouldn'tcall themselves engineers becausethey just are not.

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Just a short response to rit's letterconcerning my editoria l/ast issue. Iagree completely .,,[ her point thatengineers must take it uponthemselves to live up to their own,personal ethical level. My point wasthat it seems many engineers havesubstandard ethics to start with ndthat only through professionalregulation a re w going to be able tocontrol those in our profession whochoose to practice for personalreasons rather than the good of thesociety they were trained to serve. I'mnot usually one to push for increasedregulation, but in this case I think it isnecessary.

Chris DeBruskIW Editor

Dear IW

This letter was prompted by anarticle by Marc Ouellette. He correctlyobserved that the people who 'correct'our reports are not English professorsby any stretch of the imagination.Neither am I highly qualified to checkreports for grammatical errors, despitethe fact that I have a BritishAdvanced-Level Certificate in EnglishLiterature . The only thing I might be

qualified to do is to communicate myopinions of Shakespeare's Hamletwith ease . However, this is anexample of the point I would like tomake .

Surely this letter has been easy tounderstand , despite the fact that I donot have an English degree. But thereare probably several commongrammatical errors that have alreadyoccurred. Whether or not anyone inthe entire Engineering faculty can findthese errors does not matter. All of thewords should be spelled correctly andI am using modern English, asopposed to the ShakespeareanEnglish that it evolved from. It is thecommon grammatical errors thatmake phrases more concise or easierto pronounce that become popular,common and eventually, correct.Thus, while it may be frustrating to besurrounded by people who repeatedlymake grammatical errors, one shouldkeep in mind that language is

dynamic, and one day those samepeople may complain about the'incorrect' English of those who didnot change.

David Jarvis8 Chem Eng

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university. It is thus with great pride that theUniversity of Toronto, Canada s largestengineering school, announces that it willhost the 1993 Ontario Engineering Competition.

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my lfreda-soc Treasurer

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The Treasurer's job is a great job . tinvolves lots of responsibility,counting lots of money and lots ofexperience. I recommend it highly forany individu .a1 who feels they wouldlike to offer their time to theEngineering Society in a highlyrewarding position. I alsorecommend th at you might like totalk with me and find out in a littlemore detail what is required from agood treasurer and what duties youwould be required to perform.

The elections will be held in July.COME OUT AND VOTE Everyundergrad engineer is a member ofthe Engineering Society and deservesto voice their opinion of who shouldhold the executive positions in thesociety. Talk to the candidates, readthe posters, listen to the speeches andmake and informed decision for yoursociety.

All copies of old mid terms (such asthe ones you just finished studyingfrom) and final exams are welcomeadditions to the academic binders inthe Orifice. f we don t already have acopy then your class gets P S points,and if you have solutions they arealsb worth points.

The Day in the Life of anEngineering Student display is stillbeing prepared. All photographers,and anyone else interested in setting

WEEFDave MortonEndowment Director

Just a brief summary this week asnot a lot is new with the endowment.

The WEEF will be holding a Boardof Directors meeting on Tuesday June23, 1992. As always, these meetingsare open to the public, so drop me anote i f you d like to attend. Somesubjects to be discussed include somenew bylaws, the Employer MatchingContribution campaign and theendowment s financial arrangements.

The idea of incorporation has beenbrought up again, this time byEngSoc. There is some concern thatEngSoc s liability could extend toinclude the capital in the endowment.Thus one lawsuit could wipe out ourentire investment. This is beingpursued, and hopefully a decisionwill be made this semester onwhether or not to proceed with

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up the binders and layout for thedisplay please come see me in theOrifice. We will be working on itduring the week starting June 22. fyou can come in for an hour or two tosort photos as well as create captionsa schedule is on my desk.

Semi-formal tickets are on sale nowin the Orifice. Come and get themwhile they're HOT

ENGWEE 5END plans are beingcreated and numerous activities andtons of excitement are planned for

July 8,9,10 and11.

Sleep should bescheduled for July 12. Something willbe available for everyone - POETS ona Wednesday, the Baseball Game inToronto, a PATIO PUB, the SCUNT,Mudbowl, and class activitiesincluding the Hammer and Screwparty sling competition (prizes will beavailable in the form of free pizzas).

Have a great day and SMILE - finalsare still a long time away.

ENDOWMENT

UPD TE

incorporating the WEEF as a separateentity from the university.

In case you didn t get the messagelast week, the WEEF is looking forsome place to spend approximately$72 000 in February of next year.We re looking for proposals over theyear, but that doesn't mean you can tget yours in early. f the project isurgent enough, there s a possibilitywe could spend some money later thissummer.

We re considering holding anEndowment Conference sometimenext winter. We d invi te otheruniversities, all those who haveendowments, and those who areinterested in setting one up. Anyoneinterested in helping organize theconference should leave a note in theendowment box in the orifice.

is majestySerge . the VP has

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neglected to spew this issue. Onecan only assume he is spendingmuch too much time working andnot nearly enough time beingsocial.Anyone knowing his

whereabouts please keep it toyourself. We don t want to know

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Go Climb a WallChris DeBruskWHAT

Do your professors have youclimbing the walls? Maybe thesolution is to go with the flow and

Indoor climbing is the newestfitness craze sweeping the US

and Europe

climb away . .literally. You may haveseen a couple of guys Sitting in CPHfoyer two or three weeks ago with avideo recorder playing a movie ofsome people doing rather crazy thing son the sides of cliffs. One of thoseguys, Dave Carter runs Innerfission, aclimbing wall at the Good Life clubover on Columbia.

Indoor cl imbing is the newestfitness craze sweeping the US andEurope. t really hasn ' t caught inCanada .. maybe it has something todo with our lousy weather but it iscoming. Basically the concept is thatsomeone takes a wall in a building or

f you think you are in shapeyou really should try this sport

fitness club (or on the side ofbuildings at some universities inCalifornia) and bolts in artificialfootholds and handholds so that thewaIl is climbable. Then they climb thewall. Sound rather boring? Actually itis one of the most difficult sports I

have ever tried. I f you think you arein shape you really should try thissport. You haven't experienced pain

ndoor competitive climbing " is becoming a world level .

sport and is vying for a spot inthe next winter Olympics

until you wake up in the morninghaving spent 3 hours the previous

night falling (you never hit theground, you are on a rope) off a climbthat you refused to give up on. Everyjoint and muscle in your body willhurt and you'll question your sanity -but you will go back, especially if youdidn't manage to get it (the climb).

Indoor competitive climbing isbecoming a world level sport and isvying for a spot in the next winterOlympics. Its big and its fun Even ifyou never take the step onto naturalrock, its still worth trying. The guys atInnerfission will give you an introlesson for free, but watch it, the sport

f you think climbing soundseasy, you are liable to be very

surprised

is contagious. There is nothing quiteso immediately satisfying as making adifficult climb after falling off itcontinuously. I f you think climbingsounds easy, you are liable to be verysurprised. There are multitudes ofmoves that will allow you to do theimpossible, and the thinking that goesinto developing an approach to aparticular climb may well be as muchas is necessary for some of ourengineer ing courses (well, a fewanyway - ever take MSCI 31l?) Go onin and watch Dave do something youswore was impossible and you will

Its p t s t r e n g ht h a t g e t ~y ~ u.. ~ j t o ~ e o p ,but t y l e~ } J ; ..

Once you hew' som > possibiliti 5,send a re sum r nd a c ver I It r toth company and cross your fingers.When th e id a was first suggestedto me I doubt d my chan s, but th e

first company I contacted hired mon th e spot. t seems that NorthAmerican students often have sk illsthat are harder to f ind in manyEuropean countries.

While its of en easier to get a jobin Europe or elsewhere in tpe worldi f you have fr iends or relativesliving in the country, it can be doneeven if you don't. Use your co-opterms to the best ad vantage, goexplore

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Iron Warrior And S.A.C. Answer Your Co-op Beefs

Dear Co-op Board - In the IW

Derrek Lenn ox is a member of theSAC and a directo r o n Eng-Soc as we llas a sta ff IW w riter .

Troy Kohut , an SAC member, is onloan from the Arts Department.

Dear Co-op

I asked at the co-op desk in NH ifthey could count the of resumes leftin my file. They told me they couldn't,even though there were threesecretaries present and I was the onlystudent there. The reason that Iasked was to make sure they weresending [my resumes] out since lastterm they forgot to do so and Imissed getting a few interviewsbecause o f it.

So my complaint is this: Is itreally too much too ask [thesecretaries to count my resumes] ..mean, I took the time out of myschedule to ask them in person {andfor $400.00 I expect a littleservice ..but then that complaint isover used) .

Thanks,David N. S.

David ..

I'm sorry that you had to go all theway over to NH only to have yourrequest turned down. I know howaggravating it is I've been therebefore. But, it is not the co-opassistants' ob to count resumes infiles. One question, do you reallythink that taking time out of your busyschedule to go Needles Hall is anyless of a waste of time than havingsomeone that is getting $25 plus anhour count your resumes?

There are other ways that you canfind out the number of resumes left

than have someone count it for you.You can, for instance, request to seeyour file and count them yourself. It isone of co -op's responsibilities to al lowthe student access to his (or her) filefor any reason during normal working

hours.So if you ever want to ensure that

you have enough resumes in your file,just go to the co -op resources deskand ask for it. Then , once you havecounted the resumes left , return it tothem , and they will refile it.

Rem e mber, even though we aredirectly supporting the salaries atNeedles Half, if you tr eat theassistants poorly , don 't expect verygood service.

Derrek

Dear Co-op

I went to the co-op desk to handin a couple extra copies of my resumesince I had applied to two latepostings, but when I went to handthem in they told me that I could nothand in two resumes. They said that Ihad to hand in a minimum of fiveresumes before they could file them.

What's up with that?

Blue in the Face

Dear Blue

It everyone wanted to hand in oneor two resumes every time theysigned up for a late posting, someonebehind the counter at Needles Hallwould then have to get that person'sfile, photocopy the package and refileit. If the student had, say, three latepostings, that would be three times anassistant or clerk would have to run tothat student's file, make photocopiesand refile it.

It every student handed in theirresumes one at time then the Reoplein co-op would spend all their timefiling and photocopying.

Be reasonable, why pay for thesame thing twice? It takes just aslong to file 5 copies as it does 1 but ittakes five times the time to file 5copies one at a time.

This polic y is there to save youand the department time and money.

Derrek

25% OFFIn celebration of our 5m anniversary. all trade booksfrom the following locations will be 25 off on 25 June

only.

EngineeringMathematics

The University of WaterlooBookstore

Dear Co-op :

The postings in the Math buildingare useful , but sometimes don't getput up - and they never have thelate postings. Is it possible to have asection of Needles Hall wherepost ings could be seen 24 hours aday? Maybe one of the entranceways?

Also, why is the late posting info.line (888-4768 for anyone readingthis) not better advertised? I had noclue that it even existed.

Kivi Shapiro

Dear Kivi:SAC appreciates your interest and

shares your concern over acces tointerview schedules, last minuteinformation, late postings, etc. If youhave been following what SAC isdoing this term, you already know thatthis is one of the issues we haveaddressed. We have requested thatthe hours Needles Hall is open beextended. Our goal is to make thebuilding accessible 24 hours a day.Please, keep checking the Dear Coop Board for progress on this issue.

The information line has beenavailable for several terms nowThere have bee n ongoing problemswith the recordings caused by overuse of the answering machine; theyare simply not built to answerhundreds of caffs per day. Therehave also been problems with thetelephone line being overloaded.These a nd other logistical problemsare still being worked out, which iswhy the service is not extensivelyadvertised. We hope that solutionswill be found soon so that this servicecan be made more widely available.

Troy Kohut

To whom ever cares:

I've had 4 work terms andcountless meetings with my coordinators. Every meeting has been

100% pointless.couldn't we fill out the paper work

ourselves and save time and$money$ ?

Meeted Out

Dear Meeted Out:

The value of student-co -ordinatormeetings has been a recurring issueon the SAC agenda. Most studentshave three meetings with their coordinator for each work term. Whileyou may find them pointless , manystudents use them to their advantage.

The first meeting, the Acceptanceof Employment session, is anopportunity to learn more about yournew employer , find out if you will bewith other students , and if so who theyare.

The on-site interview serves twopurposes. First of all, it is a chancefor you to express any concerns youhave about your ob to your coordinator and to discuss direction forfuture work terms. The secondreason for the co-ordinators visit is tomeet with your employer. It is achance for the employer to commenton how the work term is proceedingand an opportunity for the co-ordinatorto discuss future work terms with theemployer and the opportunity to placestudents in other areas of theorganization.

The back to campus interview isan opportunity to discuss the workterm and arrange what is happeningfor your next work term; whether youwill be returning, going throughinterviews, finding your own job, [suntanning in the Mediterranean-edj, etc.many students also use thisopportunity to discuss resumes, thetypes of obs to look for next term andpossibly voice some concerns abouttheir last work term.

These meetings are for more thanjust filling out paper work, if youchoose to use them to youradvantage. Tell your co-ordinatorhow you feel about the meetings andwhy. There are always ongoingefforts to improve the system for boththe students and the employers sogive them your input.

Troy Kohut

EngSoc B Elec t ionsNominations OpenCampaigning BeginsElection Day

June 9July 13July 6

Get nomin tion forms from Cheryl in the Orifice

Come on out ana 6ecome a part o lie most activestut ent society on campus

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Pink Tie Guardians Have Nothing on Tool BearersMarc OuelletteIW Staff

As I exited the Campus Centre lastFriday, at about a quarter after one,weary from a night of adventure, Ihappened upon the vigilant guardiansof the Math tie. Monica , Karen and

Chris, the night watch, were huddledtogether in the rain, each of themsworn to guard the tie, or die trying. Imust have asked them about five orsix times why they were really there.They were soaked and tired but theywere an incredibly int imidat ingdeterrent.

After some questions like, Did youactually volunteer to do this? and, From what are you guarding thetie? the t ruth of the matter wasrevealed. They were specificallyguarding the tie from the engineers .I see our reputation precedes us, I

said. They replied that they heard wewere going to steal it - again.

I reminded them that the thefts areperpetrated just often enough to letthem know we can still do it. I wasthen informed that they were takingno chances. They even had lookoutshidden in the darkened Math

building. They were also sleeping inshifts so that quiet engineers couldn'tget the tie while everyone was asleep.There were probably engineerdetectors, land mines, and guardshiding in the bushes too . I knev,' I wano match for them.

They were apparently doing a good

job because no on e even went near thetie . Not that anyone would want to. Ididn't really see the need for guards,but if the y want to protect the tie , Ithink they should look at the way weguard our mascot for guidance. Forinstance, we have our bearers chainedto the Ridgid Tool. Perhaps theycould tape one of the braver MathSocpeople to the tie while it s on the sideof the building.

From that vantage point they wouldknow instantly i any nefariousindividuals, i .e. , engineers, werestealing it. We also have the bearerswear hoods. This is a good id ea sinceno one would know who the peoplewere who sat outside on a Fridaynight to guard the tie from theengineers . Can you imagine theteasing these people are getting rightnow?

I know they were questionning their

Co op fee continued ...for the co-op department and its staffof two. The grey area costs are

' covered by tuition and governmentfunding. Handsor also stated that the

alaries of the co-op employees aresubstantia lly lower than those of theprofes ors at the university.,

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placement rate of 85%. When was thelast time Waterloo placed 85 % of theengineers? I counted only a few moremechanical jobs in the recent want adsthan there are people in my class.

The information from U.N.B. andthe other U. Of W. led me to believethat this university is not really able toprovide a less expensive educationjust because it is larger. The smallerschools are simply hungrier and areworking harder, while this one seemsto be resting on its laurels. The finaldest ination of the actual fee is nolonger really at issue. What is at issueis the service provided. The overallbudget of the university was reducedby 1.5% for this year, but the co-opbudget went up by roughly the sameamount, as did our fees. This increaseis attributable to those beautiful new

Sun workstations and the hefty 6.5 ,non recessionary, pay hike theuniver sity staff received. This meansthat basically these people are gettingpaid more to do less, since there is nomoney left with which to do anythingafter a in off the com uters and thesalary increases . So, we ge , asTruman would say, any bang for ourbucks? Are these people reallydoing $4,500,000 worth of work forus? Does a co-ordinator deserve toearn a salary which is in the highestrange the university offers and ishigher than those of counterparts atother universities? Does the job andthe work they do match the pay andqualifications (most of our coordinators are engineers and theymake as much here as they would inthe real world)? For these and manymore incredible answers I will bevisiting Jim Wilson, the Chairman ofCo-operative Education and CareerServices in the near future I wouldcall him the politically correct Chairbut I would never want anyone to callme a piece of furniture.).

COMINGJULY 10th

purpose when I mentionned that Iwould be sure to document theircourage, perseverance and(misplaced?) spirit in this publication.I'm sure they'll go to Math heaven forthis anyway , so to them it's probablytime well spent. I know that if agroup of engineers had to stay outsideto guard something, we would haveput up shelter of some sort and runextension cords so we could at leasthave a fridge going. They never

thought of any of that.I do have to give the Mathies credit,

though . They have convinced me thatstealing the tie while it hangs on theMC building is not a good thing to do .N ow I think it 's a lot more fun towatch them sit outside and guard thestupid thing. I also think it would beeas ier to get the tie out of the back ofthe pickup the greenme n use to haul itaway after they take it down.

Dear IW continuedDear I.W.,

The editors of the Enginewsletter

have published very unprofess ionally(June 12) by responding to Mr.DeBrusk's letter (Iron Warrior, June 5)r the manner wtl Cfi h y havechosen:

1. They tried to trivialize the whol eissue by using the title l'm not sayinganything, BUT .. .

2. They showed ignorance bysaying that they were indifferentabout the situation .

3. They were irresponsible bysaying that they had all but forgottenabout it .

4. They showed no respect to theirreaders by printing the letter whichattacks Mr. DeBrusk personally,anonymous or not.

5. They showed thei r immaturity bysaying that everyone we showed [theletter] to burst out laughing .. hope i tbrightens your day . (I am notconvinced that all those who laughedwere laughing at Mr. DeBrusk, butrather, at the immature person whowrote the letter.)

6. They offended their readers bysaying If anyone else finds thisoffensive , we apologize. This is the

last (hopefully) you'll hear of it.7. They showed no pr ide in their

work by continuing to publish Daveand Jerry 's Ski Tips with tastelessjokes.

I expected the Enginewsletter to beinformative, but also humorous andentertaining. When I was the editorduring the fall term last year, I madeevery effort and tried my best to keep

the Enginewsletter that way, but alsoclean and non-offensive. This term, Iregret to say, the editors obviously

have not tried at all to make theEnginewsletter its best: it falls tooshort of my ex ectation, as well asthose of t h e r ~

Traditionally, the names of theeditors of the Enginewsletter are notpublished, but it is by no moans anexcuse for any unprof ess ionalpublication . The editors of theEnglnewsletter owe signed apologiesto Mr. DeBrusk and to other peoplewhom they have offended .

Dewey YinPast Editor Enginewsletter2B Chemical Engineering

Dear I.W.,

I can understand that manyengineering students are unable, forvarious reasons, to makecontributions to WEEF. The WEEFdirector and many other volunteeringstudents work very hard to keep theWEEF program going, and deserve to

be thanked by all of us , the studentswho benefit from this fund. I think thatthe Enginewsletter has taken a wrongstand by printing Straight from theWEEF Desk (June 12) when theyshould be doing everything they canto promote WEEF.

Dewey Yin2B Chemical Engineering


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First of all, the creative side. Submit anything you want to We're not pickyand can use just about anything you'd like to give us. Write to the best of yourability and our handy dandy editorial staf f will take care of the rest. So put

fingers to keyboards and start writing about that something at Waterloo that justirks the hell out of you. Or draw us a cartoon. Or prepare a treatise on thefiner points of beer fermentation. If you think what you have to say isinteresting or important, we probably have an audience for it.

Next the technical side. Documents are preferably typed and submitted on3.5" diskette (Give us your name and will even return the disk). We can useeither Mac or MS-DOS formats, but would prefe r Mac. Please add absolutelyno formatting on the document, that's what our editorial and layout people arefor (No special fonts, styles, paragraph indents, r extra lines).

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