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The PIHA "Grey Team" scheduled a paranormal investigation of this historic building and obtained some amazing evidence of paranormal activity.

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W elcom e to PIH A ’s H istoric H aunting oW elcom e to PIH A ’s H istoric H aunting oW elcom e to PIH A ’s H istoric H aunting oW elcom e to PIH A ’s H istoric H aunting of W ashington State M agazinef W ashington State M agazinef W ashington State M agazinef W ashington State M agazine

On behalf of the volunteer paranormal investigators of PIHA, I invite you to experience

Washington State’s amazing historical sites and museums like never before. PIHA has

created a program unlike any other in Washington State. Through our process of networking

with local historical societies, museums and registered historical sites, PIHA hopes to help

educate the public of our state’s exciting history and the process and technology utilized in

today’s paranormal investigations.

PIHA was created with two goals in mind:

1. PIHA hopes to bring our history to life by attempting to obtain significant

evidence of these strange occurrences. Utilizing the latest in today’s electronic

technology and dedicated paranormal investigators, we are accomplishing this

objective.

2. PIHA wants to stimulate additional interest in our residents and visitors to

Washington State’s fascinating history. We want to encourage individuals,

families, schools and community organizations to visit these (and other) historical

locations for a better understanding of our state’s history and the people who made

it.

PIHA is not out to prove or disprove the existence of possible paranormal activity, but to

publish any significant evidence collected at an investigation and let each individual

decided for himself what to believe or not to believe.

Wherever your travels in Washington take you, best wishes for a “Trip to the

Extraordinary”.

For additional information about PIHA, visit our website at www.pihausa.com

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In this Issue:In this Issue:In this Issue:In this Issue:

Welcome to PIHA’s Historic Haunting of Washington State Magazine…..2

Washington State History………….…………………………….……..…….5

The History of Western Washington…………………………….....………..7

The History of Georgetown.…….…………………………………..…..…….9

The Historic Carleton Avenue Grocery………………………………………11

Paranormal Investigation Report………………………………………..…...13

Ghost, Demons, Spirits and Energy…………………………….…………….15 C ontact P IH A :C ontact P IH A :C ontact P IH A :C ontact P IH A :

PIHA (Paranormal Investigations of Historic America)

Vaughn Hubbard: Case Manager/Historian

Phone: 360.799.4138

Email: [email protected]

Website: WWW.PIHAUSA.COM

Debbie Knapp: Lead Investigator/Historian

Kathy Gavin: Lead Investigator

Dave: EVP Specialist

Christian Wells: Investigator

P IH A M agazine P ublisher:P IH A M agazine P ublisher:P IH A M agazine P ublisher:P IH A M agazine P ublisher:

Publisher………………...…..….Historic Haunting

Chief Publisher…………..……..Vaughn Hubbard

Program Manager:………….…..Debbie Knapp

Marketing Manager:………….....Kathy Gavin

Graphic Designer:…………...…..Christian Wells

A cknow ledgem ents:A cknow ledgem ents:A cknow ledgem ents:A cknow ledgem ents:

We wish to thank Russ and Sandy Wells for their participation in this paranormal investigation. You can

listen to Russ and Sandy from their popular paranormal radio talk show “Dark Moon Rising” on BlogTalk

Radio http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dark-moon-rising-radio

Special thanks to Dave from Silent Voices who works with the Grey Team as our EVP Specialist. To read

more about the groundbreaking work that Dave is involved with and his instructions on EVP's techniques,

visit his web site at www.SilentVoices.info

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Washington State History

The State of Washington occupies the far northwest corner of the contiguous 48 United States. It occupies

66,582 square miles (176,600 square kilometers) between the Pacific Ocean on

the west and the Idaho border at 117 degrees longitude. Washington borders

Canada on the north along the 49th parallel and Oregon on the south along the

Columbia River and 46th parallel. Great Britain and the United States jointly

occupied the region between 1818 and 1846, when Britain ceded the Pacific

Northwest below the 49th parallel to the U.S. In 1848 the U.S. created Oregon

Territory, including the future states of Oregon, Washington, and Idaho and a

portion of Montana. Washington Territory (including Idaho and western Montana until 1863) was

separated from Oregon on March 2, 1853, and gained statehood on November 11, 1889.

The federal government created Oregon Territory on August 14, 1848. The area of the new jurisdiction

included the present-day states of Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and western Montana. The discovery of gold

in California in 1848 triggered a large westward migration, and settlement of Oregon Territory was

promoted by passage of the Donation Land Claims Act of 1850, which granted 160 acres to any U.S.

citizen who agreed to occupy his or her land for five years.

On August 29, 1851, 27 male settlers met at Cowlitz Landing (south of present-day Olympia) to petition

Congress for a separate “Columbia Territory” covering the area between the Columbia River and 49th

parallel. The petition was reaffirmed by 44 delegates who met in Monticello on November 25, 1852.

Congress approved the new territory on February 10, 1853, but changed its name to “Washington.”

President Millard Fillmore signed the bill on March 2, 1853, and Olympia was named the Territorial

Capital and has remained the capital of both Washington Territory and State since 1853. President Franklyn

Pierce named Isaac I. Stevens as the first governor of an area that included northern Idaho and western

Montana until President Abraham Lincoln established Idaho Territory on March 4, 1863.

Washington’s non-Indian population grew steadily to more than 300,000 over the

following decades. Its residents began petitioning for statehood in 1881, and Washington

was admitted to the Union on November 11, 1889, with the signature of President

Benjamin Harrison.

Thirty federally recognized sovereign Indian tribes and reservations occupy substantial

areas in Washington, and there are an additional seven unrecognized but culturally distinct

tribes. Native American Indian tribes have occupied this area; now know as Washington State for over

10,000 years and have a rich history in culture and survival. By the 1850s, when the first Euro American

settlers arrived at Alki Point and along the Duwamish River,

diseases had already taken a devastating toll on native peoples

and their cultures. During the 80 year period from the 1770s to

1850, smallpox, measles, influenza, and other diseases had killed an estimated

28,000 Native Americans in Western Washington, leaving about 9,000

survivors. Historian Robert Boyd conducted extensive research on the effect of

European diseases on Northwest coast Indians. In his book, The Coming of the

Spirit of Pestilence, he states that the 1775 Spanish expedition led by Bruno

Hezeta, commander of the Santiago and Juan Fracisco de la Bodega & Quadra, commander of the

Sonora was the most likely carrier.

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The History and Expansion into Western Washington

The first settlement in the Puget Sound area in the west of what is now Washington was that

of Fort Nisqually, a farm and trading post of the Hudson's Bay Company, in 1833.

Washington's founder, the black pioneer George Washington Bush and his Caucasian wife,

Isabella James Bush, from Missouri and Tennessee, respectively, led four white families

into the territory and settled New Market, now known as Tumwater, Washington, in 1846.

They settled in Washington to avoid Oregon's racist settlement laws. Eventually, many more

settlers, migrating overland along the Oregon Trail, wandered north to settle in the Puget

Sound area.

In 1852, people from all over what was to become Washington state gathered in Monticello

(now Longview) to draft a memorandum to Congress. The memorandum expressed their

desire to be granted statehood under the name of Columbia. This meeting came to be known

as the Monticello Convention. The desires of the Convention were met favorably in

Congress, but it was decided that a state named Columbia might be confused with the

preexisting District of Columbia. In a manner which strangely enough did not solve the

problem of being confused with the nation's capital, the state was instead named

Washington in honor of the first U.S. president. Washington became the 42nd

state in the

United States on November 11, 1889.

The heavy rainfall to the west of the Cascade Range produced dense forests, and the ports

along Puget Sound prospered from the manufacturing and shipping of lumber products,

particularly the Douglas-fir. Other industries that developed in this portion of the state

include fishing, salmon canning and mining.

In the spring of 1853, Congress authorized a US Army expedition made up of engineers and

explorers and led by Isaac Ingalls Stevens, to survey a route from the

Missouri River to the Columbia River suitable for building a railroad.

Stevens assumed the task, but also kept in mind that the route should be

suitable for a wagon road. The 25’ wide road was so called because its

purpose was to connect Fort Walla Walla east of the mountains to Fort

Steilacoom along side the Puget Sound. The road was built from Fort

Steilacoom and then,

following an ancient Indian

path known as the Naches

Trail, it crossed over Naches Pass and down to

the Naches River east of the mountains. The

road then followed the river to Yakima. The

trail roughly follows the present day State

Route 410 which instead goes up and over the

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Chinook pass, a little south of the original route, to Naches and on to Yakima.

The History of Georgetown

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The History of Georgetown Washington

Georgetown was originally known as "Collins" and began as a farming settlement

established on Sept. 16, 1851 by Luther Collins, Henry Van Asselt and Jacob Maple.

Luther Collins, who was named the County Commissioner and appointed himself road

supervisor for all of King County, routed the main road from Seattle to Tacoma to go right

by his house. The road led to a ferry, called the Collins Ferry, which took passengers across

the Duwamish River. Fares ranged from 12 1/2¢ for a "footman" (someone walking) to 50¢

for a man with a horse.

Rainier Brewing Company's original Rainier Brewery, once reportedly the sixth-largest

brewery in the world, began operations in 1882. Now called the Georgetown Brewhouse,

the red brick brewery, home to artists and small businesses, dominates the commercial

district along Airport Way S.

Georgetown existed as an independent city from 1904 to 1910, when it was annexed by

Seattle; the Old Georgetown City Hall (1909) is now on the National Register of Historic

Places as is the Georgetown Steam Plant (1906). The movement for annexation began in

1906 but did not gain significant support until 1909. Following presentation of a petition for

an annexation vote, a special election was held on March 29, 1910. The annexation

proposition passed with 389 votes in favor and 238 opposed. The City of Georgetown was

officially consolidated with Seattle on April 4, 1910

The Horton brothers Julius and Dexter, arrived in 1871, and purchased 160 acres of Collins'

original claim. The brothers were very different in personality but both were very

ambitious. While Dexter was against the drinking of alcohol, his brother Julius saw the

possibilities of making money through the brewing business and land development.

The bawdy early days of Georgetown was the home of saloons, brothels and gambling

houses that were open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The many trappings were meant to

coax hard working men to leave their week's salary behind. And they often did as appeared

in the Centralia Chronicle on March 28, 1902;

Centralia Chronicle-March 28, 1902

“Georgetown is now the place where the gambling clement of Seattle holds forth and the

town is "Wide open" in its fullest sense. Not even on Sunday did the gamblers stop their

work. All day and all night they ply their vocation in the seven saloons which are now

located in that suburb. Two more saloons are now in process of erection. Koilotlo, craps,

Klondike, black jack, stud poker, California poker, wheel of fortune and slot machines are

the games that are being mainly played.

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The History of the Carleton Avenue Grocery

The Carleton Avenue Grocery has the distinction of being the longest continuously operated

grocery store in Washington State. Although it didn’t begin as your friendly, neighborhood

grocery store. It actually began as a bar and bordello called “The Country Inn Roadhouse”

owned by Everett “Big Hutch” Hutchings located on Estella Street (Carleton Avenue) along

with about six other saloons. They were the “Roxy’s,” owned by Roxy Reber; “Rainer Bar,”

owned by L.C, Bregonze; “Lincoln Park,” owned by Charlton and Bowman; “Germania

Park,” owned by F Brand; “Vienna Grocery and Bar,” owned by L. Pavish; and “Bohemian

Park,” owned by Richard Bishop.

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The PIHA Grey Team’s Paranormal Investigation

On October 16th

, 2010 the PIHA Grey Team scheduled paranormal investigations at

selected sites in the historic community of Georgetown and came away with some

interesting results indicating that possible paranormal activity does exist. These are the

results of one of those investigations.

The PIHA Grey Team began their investigation at 8:00 PM at the Carleton Avenue Grocery

with PIHA Lead Investigator, Debbie Knapp. The Grey Team was also joined by Allan

Philips and La Dele Sines, owners of the Carleton Avenue Grocery and Georgetown

resident Jordan.

As is the usual practice, the team first completes a scan of the area to be investigated. They

use their EMF (Electromagnetic Field) detectors to locate any abnormal electronic energy

that may exist.

Next, the Grey Team sets up their camcorders to video tape any shadows or strange

movement that may take place during their EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) session.

Finally they position the PIHA “Parabolic Dish” that they use to record any noises or voices

that may or may not be heard by ear. The parabolic dish also has a headset attached

allowing an investigator to hear any voices or noises that cannot be heard naturally by the

other investigators during the EVP session. This has proven to be a valuable tool to validate

anything recorded during the EVP session that would otherwise go unnoticed.

Vaughn has concluded that if ghost actually exist, they can be seen, heard and felt anytime,

day or night with the lights on or off. The main reason that most paranormal organizations

investigate late at night is that there are fewer people in and around the area or building

being investigated and the same is true for vehicle traffic. All of these factors can

contaminate the electronic recordings being made during the actual investigation. Basically,

the quieter it is the better chance of recording possible evidence of paranormal activity. But,

if someone just wants to have a paranormal experience or possibly see a ghost, they’re

chances are probably better during the day than at night. There are many more encounters

told by ordinary people of seeing or experiencing a ghost during the day and fewer at night.

You could have something standing right next to you in the dark and you would never see

it, but during the day you will.

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Results of the PIHA Paranormal Investigation

This paranormal investigation yielded some fascinating evidence of paranormal activity

throughout the entire evening.

At 8:00 PM the Grey Team began their investigation in the grocery store area located on the

main floor of the building to begin EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) session in that area

of the building. An EVP session is when a series of questions are asked and recording

devices such as digital recorders and the PIHA parabolic dish are set to record any noises or

verbal responses.

Right at the start, a male voice was recorded on the parabolic dish. Then Dave talks about a

photograph that has the image of a woman showing up on the glass doors. Just then, a

female voice is recorded on the parabolic dish.

The team then moved down to the basement to begin another EVP session. Earlier, guest

investigator Russ Wells, saw what appeared to be a male figure in this area. Just as Dave

begins his EVP session everyone present hears what sounds like a whistle type noise. As the

EVP continues, guest investigator, Sandy Wells, feels something touch her shoulder. Then

Sandy feels a strange presence standing next to her. Right after that, guest clients La Dele

and Jordan feel a cold sensation all around them. Then a female sounding voice is heard by

everyone present and recorded on the parabolic dish.

The team then moved up to the second floor living quarters area to begin their final

investigation and EVP session. Even though there were many stories of activity and

personal experiences in this part of the building, nothing was actually recorded as evidence

of possible paranormal activity.

The PIHA Grey Team has certified haunted the historic building that Carleton Avenue

Grocery is located in.

The History of Paranormal Activity

Footsteps in the store coming from the cooler to the front door

Whisperings in the hall upstairs, our dog barks at the wall randomly as if he is chasing

someone - this happens to be where the old hallway was, when we are in the basement we

can hear footsteps in the apartment above - no one is there (our dog hears it too).

Sometimes at night after close we have heard the gate close after it has already been closed.

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Ghost, Demons, Spirits and Energy

We’ve gotten used to the concept that the night sky is full of ghosts, but the thought of a

ghost sound is still disturbing. It is unsettling to listen to the sound of death as if they were

occurring in the present and not a lifetime earlier. I suspect the world is far more mysterious

than we’ve imagined.

In subtle and unexpected ways science and religion are approaching common if uncertain

ground. At some point as the scientific focus becomes more and more specific, as the

particles examined by quantum physicists become more and more elusive, the paranormal

escapes its cage of scientific incredulity.

And there lies the mystery of the paranormal. They are messages, so dense that they require

unraveling before they’re understood. It’s a little scary, acknowledging that something

paranormal can exist, but also an affirmation that what lies beyond consciousness has

tremendous power and potential.

Many people who think that something paranormal exist, physics and logic can debunk.

That said, occasionally PIHA obtains evidence that neither physics nor logic applies. When

this occurs, we classify it as paranormal evidence and let each individual decide for himself

what to believe or not believe.

PIHA never employees the use mediums, psychics or Ouija Boards in our investigations.

Not because we don’t believe them, but because we have no way of actually validating their

claims with our equipment.

The Grey Team is not looking (or have ever encountered) any demons or evil spirits in our

investigations and really question if they even exist outside the minds and imaginations of

people and their religion or spiritual beliefs. We believe that if there is some type of energy

or ghost that may reside in the historic locations that we investigate, then they are someone

that had a strong attachment to that museum or historical site. And if this is the case, then

they were people that had families and jobs just like the rest of us when they were alive. It

also seems logical that if a person’s spirit or energy does exist in some form after death,

then they would be the same type of person in spirit as they were when they were alive. If

they were a mean, cruel person in life, then they are probably still that same mean, cruel

person in spirit. Take Hitler or Ted Bundy as examples. If they're spirit or ghost exists

somewhere, then they are most likely to have the same personalities in death. So I wouldn't

think someone like that would become a "Guardian Angel". Besides that, if a demon or evil

spirit did exist, first off, we wouldn't go looking for it because if we found it, we wouldn't

know what to do with it. And we certainly don't want it to follow us home! As for the many

museums and historical sites that we have investigated, we have only found nice, friendly

and sometimes mischievous ghost there. All of the mean one's live somewhere else. And

"that's all I have to say about that".

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