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The top of our motel was trimmed with red fluorescent lights and
Dorothy was sam~what embarrassed by our being located in the red
light district. The next morning we rented a car for a three day
trip through the park. We spent the first night in a little rough
cabi~ in ~he area of the main hotel, across from the famous geyser,
Old Faithful, which spouts of.f a high column of water about every hour.
During the night while we were asleep, • '· ' .• I ;; •· Dorothy was
awakened. by a rattling and pounding sound just outside the
cabin at the head c f C• u r bed . She woke me and we both looked
out of the little ~indo~ at the head of the bed and we saw a
good-sized bear raidin~ our garbage can. We didn't disturb
him, but kept ~etching, and after he had his fill, he wandered ~~
away. -~~ring the three days we made a loop around the Park
and covered a good bit of it. It was our first visit there
and we enjoyed it thoroughly. When we were ready to leave, I
wanted to get to Missoula, Montana on the first hop and I
wanted to be full up with fuel so that we wouldn't have any
trouble getting all the way there through this rough
mountainous terrain. With no aviation fuel available, I
decided to fill up with high-test automobile gas. I figured
that the automobile gas which was suitable for cars at high
altitudes should not be too bad for our airplane at fairly
high altitudes. Also, we hadn't used a large amount of our
gasoline coming from Pocatello and the Ercoupe fuel system was
particularly well suited to this occasion. It had a 6-gallon
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header tank ~ith gravity feed to the carburetor, and two wing
tanks holding 9 gallons each, which were connected together
and the fuel was fed to the upper header tank by an engine-
driven
fuel,
fuel pump. By putting the ne~ fuel, .the automobile
in the wing tanks, the first operation would all be
essen!ially with airplane fuel from the header tank and the
take-off and climb could be made in that manner. Actually, it
worked very satisfactorily. At that time, there were hardly
any Omnirange stations in that mountain area and we followed
little roads to the small towns of Ellis~~~Whitehall and then
went through the Butte and the Anaconda copper miDing area.
Beyond that, w e h a d b o t h r o a d a n d r a i 1 r o a d t o f o 11 c> w a n d we
landed at Missoula a little after noon. It ~as only a littl~
over 400 miles to Seattle, and we probably could have pushed
through that same day, but Dorothy's brother Phil and his
family were expecting us the following afternoon and so we
took a short hop to Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, arriving there about
the middle of the afternoon. We got a taxi and asked the
driver to take us to a motel or hotel, but he told us that
there were two conventions in the town and that there were no
hotel or motel rooms available whatever. However, he knew
some private homes that took in transients occasionally and he
would see what he could do over the telephone. We heard him
ask for a room "for a couple" and then he said "I
they're married."
satisfactory time.
At any rate, we got the room and
think
had a
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Coeur d'Alene is a beautiful town on a large lake.
There were reguJar passenger boat excursions on the lake, but
we missed the last one by an hour or so. By exploring a
little farther, however~ we found a man who took us for a good
motorboat ride .. The next morning we left Coeur d'Alene about
10 o'clock and landed at Ellensburg at about .12. Ellensburg
and Yakima nearby are in the agricultural area made possible
by the Columbia River which is not too far away. From
Ellensburg to·Seattle, a distance of about 100 miles, we could
see the great white-capped peak of Mount RaiQier on our left
almost all the way. It is 14,410' high, about the same as the
highest of. the Colorado mountains, but it is much, much more
impressive, because it rises up from near sea level, instead
of from a plateau of 5-7,000', as the Colorado mountains do.
We followed the road and railroad to Seattle, going through ~~&/.
famous Snoqualmie Pass and we landed at a little field ~ v the
the northeastern portion of Seattle,
right on Lake Washington. That area is all built up now and
unfortunately the little airport is no longer in existence.
Phil and Laurie and a couple of their four girls met us at the ~-
airport and we stayed with them for about a week. AI flew
around the Seattle area for a couple of hours, giving rides to
lTSUJ..• ~ Laurie and/\ th'e four girls, .J:i:.r-an-n-1.-e, Jean, Kathy and Barbara~
Barbara was an infant and Laurie held her in her lap. As I
recall it, this was the first airplane ride for any of them.
I wonder how many people I have given their first ride up in
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the air. While I was giving some of these rides, we noticed a
fair amount o1 smoke rising from an area just east of Lake
Washington, which was only a mile or two wide at that point.
While we were on the ground between flights, a fire chief of
~ some sort came out~ the airport and practically commandeered
the airplane so that he could make a flight over the fire area
and see where best to place his equipment. I took him up and
flew around the fire area. It was a brush fire and was
approaching some houses, so it needed immediate attention.
When we got down, he offered to pay for the.ride but it was a
short one, and I enjoyed the experience.
Phil, Dr. Phil E. Church, Head of the Mete~rology
Department at the University of WashingtoD, and a couple of
his friends had rented a cottage on Camano Island for a good
portion of the summer and we spent several days there. The
island was in Puget Sound north of Seattle and attached to the
mainland by a bridge. It was about 26 miles long and varied
in width. The cottage was in a beautiful spot on the shore of
Puget Sound and in a wooded area. We had a pleasant and
restful stay there. There was quite a b~t of driftwood up and
down the shoreline and I found a nice tapered root of an aspen
tree which I sawed off and sent horneby Parcel Post. Sometime
back I believe I referred to a piece of petrified wood that
had been found near College Station, Texas, and that I had
used as a base for a lamp which we had placed on a table at
one end of a sofa and that Dorothy's mother had said "looked
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lonesome and needed a companion'' at the other end of the sofa·
to balance it. I later made the companion lamp from this
aspen root, but I had to send it home Parcel Post because we
did not
Ercoupe.
have room or weight allowance to carry it in the
After an enjoyable week with the Church family in
Seattle we took off and went south about 100 miles to
Longview, ~ashington on the Columbia River and about 40 miles
north of Portland.
In December 1949 Molton B. Taylor Df Longview had
written me requesting information regarding some details in
connection with the Ercoupe which he could use in the develop
ment of a flying automobile called the Aerocar. I had sent
him a batch of information and we corresponded a bit,
course of which he invited me to visit him if I could.
in the
This
trip in the Ercoupe made it convenient. His operation was
right on the airport and as I remember it there was only one
other small fixed base operator. He showed us his first
Aerocar which had been completed and partially tested but at
the time was under modification. It amounted to a very small
2-place automobile powered with a 100 hp aircraft engine and
designed to be light as possible. To this was attached a high
wing of 30' span and a rear portion of sheet metal fuselage
c~rrying an unusual tail and the propeller back of the tail.
The vertical surface of the tail projected below the fuselage
and protected the propeller from the ground. The horizontal
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portion of the tail had a rather large dihedral angle. The.
wings, the rear portion of the fuselage and the tail came off
from the automobile portion as a unit, the wings were folded
back along t·he fuselage and tail surfaces in a vertical
position and the whole rear combination could be detached from
the automobile portion completely. Small caster wheels could
then be attached to the tips of the wings at the rear and the
whole arrangement attached to the automobile and pulled as a
trailer. You could then move the whole arrangement on the
ground as from your house to the airport or along the road if
you had had to land because of bad weather and were driving to
a region where the weather was better. Or you could stow the
wings and rear portion of the fuselage and use the car by
itself. One of the most noteworthy mechanical advances that 1?~ Wtt-±-4: Ta y 1 or had made was in connection with the propeller
drive. The propeller was mounted on a very long shaft in the
rear portion of the fuselage and this ordinarily entails great
difficulty ~· conditions of resonance and very severe
torsional vibrations. He avoided this difficulty by making
use of a fluid clutch or drive, .. · tin;y.;
the fluid. consisting of ~
ball bearings. Thus there was no direct mechanical connection
between the engine and the propeller shaft.
M~lt had done a lot of good work on this project, but it
was a very difficult nut to crack. He continued working for
several years, ending up with about a 150 hp engine instead of
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the 100 hp and developing many refinements.
the weight and power of a 4-place airplane,
extra complication, and the airplane
ordinary
difficult
light 2-place airplane. And
to have either the airplane
He ended up with
substantial
performance of an
it is extremely
or the automobile
portion have performance equivalent to the airplane's alone or
the automobile's alone. I should have pointed out that in his
first venture, he tried to use a number of the features of the
Ercoupe,
operation
including making it spin-proof, having two-control
and using the tricycle gear principle. but with 4
wheels on his small car. All in all, it was a worthy effort,
but in the end it did not succeed commercially.
We had stopped off at Longview, expecting to stay for an
hour or two and then fly on. MDlt and his wife insisted that
we stay overnight, however, and we were sort of happy to allow
them to persuade us. We not only enjoyed visiting with them
in their home on a farm on the edge of town, but they showed
us two outstanding things also. One was an area of mint
far.ms, where mint was grown commercially, and a mint proces-
sing plant, where the essence was distilled
commercial market. The essence, incidentally,
out for the
is so strong
that it appears to burn your tongue if you touch it to it.
The other was a large Weyerhaeuser lumber mill where large
sections of pine logs up to 5' in diameter were sawed up into
lumber and the waste made into paper. All of the handling of
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the logs, the lumber and the scrap materjal for pulp was done
mechanically, mostly by remote control. It was remarkable to
see these large logs of varjous sizes being moved in and sawed
into lumber of various sizes and dimensions, all controlled by
a man sitting at a control center with a few handles and
switches. It was a far cry from the old country sawmill. And "Jr. ;-:-'.d...
the waste scraps and bark were all ~ into a large boiler and
made into pulp and then came out through a paper-making
machine in the form of large rolls of excellent grade paper.
This process was con:inuous, going on night and day, shutting
down only a couple times a year, for maintenance and repairs.
The next day we took an easy trip with three stops down
to the little Palo Alto airport on the southwestern rim of the
San Francisco Bay. We stopped for fuel at Eugene, Oregon and
then again at Red Bluff, California. That appeared to be the
hottest place we've ever been. It was so hot that we were
completely debilitated. We had a bite of lunch in a little
shack on the edge of the airport which was cooled by an
evaporative water cooling system. It was not much, but we
appreciated it greatly. We had difficulty getting back into
the airplane without burning ourselves. This is in the north
desert area of California. We
minutes' visit with Norm
then stopped at Davis to have a Atk;l.nson ~wilt'~ and Wes Yates who were
work on agricultural aviation and the
distribution of sprays.
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In Palo Alto, we stayed with Buddy ~nd Betty Jacobs, wh6
went all out fc·r us. Buddy was still ~attending Stanford
University but between them they were also running a picture
framing store and doing very well with it financially. They
lived in the hack of the store and put us up there also.
Buddy, I believe I mentioned before, was the son of East and
Ivy Jacobs, our old friends from Hampton, Virginia. We stayed
with Buddy and Eetty two nights and then flew directly about
230 miles or so to Bakersfield to visit Dorothy's brother,
Victor, and his wife, G1nny. Vic had a PhD ~n geology and was
doing geological work in connection with the possible location
of oil wells in the vicinity of Bakersfield. He has been (also '84)
quite successful and they are still there in 1978. Vic and
Ginny took us to the Sequoia National Park where we saw a
number of very large sequoia trees and large sugar pines and
others. One of the sequoias is cut so that a road runs
through it and you can drive your car through it. We were
looking at the President Grant, one of the largest sequoia
trees, and I was trying to get a picture of it. A small boy
was ~tanding right close to it and his mother called to him,
"Come away, Jimmy, can't you see the man wants to use that
tree?"
We spent four enjoyable days with Vic and Ginny and then
flew the 150 miles or so down to Monrovia, just east of Los
Angeles and not too far from Arcadia where my brother Herb and
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his wife Virginia and their familv lrved. Their older·
daughter, Beverly, was to be married shortly aDd my mother and
father were already visiting there, so we stayed with a
neighbo~r next door.
While we were there we visited Ivy Jacobs and her
younger daughter, Dorothy, who w~re living a few miles west of
the airport at Monrovia. East and Ivy were separated for the
second time at that point, and East was living with his mother
in a beautjful area close to the Pacific shoreline near
Oxnard. His contributio~ to the science of aerodynamics had
unfortunately ended. Their daughter Dorothy, then about 8
years old, had been named Dorothy Jane after my Dor0thy Jane.
She was interested in the airplane and I offered to take her
for a ride. She hadn't been up before and was uncertain about
the situation, so I didn't force her. The next time we
happened to see them, however, she greeted me with the
statement, "I have decided to take a ride with you." We later
flew around the area, I,among other things,showed her her
home, and she thoroughly enjoyed her flight and was ready to
go for more.
The next days were dominated by the preparations for
Beverly's wedding to a fine young man by the name of Bob
Wells. The wedding was to be on a Sunday and I needed to be
in Fort Worth, Texas on the following Tuesday in order to
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attend an important meeting with the CAA and other parties
interested 'lo:ith regard to the futuie program of the Ag-1
airplane. This meant that we had to get as far as we could
after the \o:edding on Sunday, which was scheduled for 4 o'clock
in the afternoon. Immediately after the service and before ~ Ut\.u.-0:-
the reception, we left~and Ivy Jacobs took us to the Monrovia
air po'r t in her car. By 5:20 we were in the air heading east
and hoJ>ing to get to Blytheon the Colorado River that evening.
The weather was clear in the Los Angeles area, but we
had not taken time to get a last-minute report on the "'eather
at Blythe. It was easy sailing as far as Desert Center, an
abandoned airport about 40 mileE from Blythe. Twilight was
approaching, b u t w h e n w e 1 o o k e d a h e a d .i:- e '~:::::B l r t n e , the sky
was black, and it looked very stormy. Our Omni was
satisfactorily tuned in on Blythe. however, and we were within
4:. sight of a good, well-traveled road leading to ~tfi€. We
wondered whether we should land at Desert Center, even though
it was out in the sticks and unattended, while we still had
enough daylight, but then we saw the airport beacon light
flashing from Blythe almost 40 miles away and we decided to go 1\-,t..,~w'
:t: or B i y tire , thinking that the storm must be beyond itx if we
could see the light so clearly. It was a critical decision
because once we got to Blythe or near it, we did not have
enough fuel to turn around and go back to a lighied airport
with any reasonable degree of safety. In a pinch, however, we
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figured we could turn back and land on ~fie road because it was
pointed out by the car lights and the traffic did not seem to
be so great as to be dangerous. As we got within a few miles
of the Blythe airport,· it started to rain, and the closer we
got, the harder it rained, although we could still see the
airport light
factorily, too.
and the runway lights were operating satis
We landed on the lighted runway and taxied up
in the heavy rain to a hangar which appeared to be at a very
slight elevation and which had the doors open and people
beckoning us to come in, which we were happy to do. By that
time it was pitch black there. While we were taking the
baggage out of the plane, the lights went out, not only in the
hangar but in the entire airport and the Omnirange went out at
the same time. There was no airport beacon and no runway
lights. The current that went off was from the Blythe power
plant and afterward they tried to get lights from an auxiliary
plant on the field. They had had a flash flood before we
arrived, however, and all in all the water had risen high
enough so that the emergency auxiliary plant
an obviously wonderfully well thought-out
was inoperative,
arrangement. We
were very fortunate, because had we come just a few minutes
later the Omni would have been off, the field would have been
completely dark and we couldn't have found it in the blackness
of the rainstorm.
The fixed base operator was good enough to take us into
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town and
the dips.
in several places had to for~ fairly deep water in
He put us up in an attractive little hotel of
Spanish architecture and atmosphere. After eating supper in a
nearby restaurant, Dorothy took off her shoe~ and stockings to
wade across the streets. The cause of all this was a
hurricane that was driving its way up through Mexico and we
were getting the northern fringe benefits. The next morning
the weather was clear at Blyt~ but the flight service station
gave us a report for Phoenix that was VFR, but not with a
great margin. We took off at 6:45, hopiQg to get well on
toward Fort Worth during the day, so that I could make the
meeting, but as we approached Phoenix, the ceiling there got
down to about 500'. Fortunately the regulations were not
enforced quite as rigidly in those days ~y the controllers as
they are now, and the tower operator allowed us to come in and
land on the main airport at Phoenix. We stayed at the airport
hoping for the weather to improve, but in the meantime we
called up Bill Stout and he came out to visit with us while we
were waiting. After a time it was apparent that the weather
was not going to be good enough to leave Phoenix that day and
that I would miss the meeting. At any rate, there were others
from Texas A & M who would attend the meeting and could plead
my case for me, and it turned out all right in the end,
because I got what I wanted. We then put up at the Westward
Ho, which was the hotel in Phoenix at the time and we stayed
there for 3 days until the weather over the mountains cleared
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up. Once the meeting had been missed, there was no use
forcing things and during thos~ 3 days ~e were royally
entertained by Bill and Alma Stout. Bill, who as I had
mentioned previously, had designed the experimental Stout
Sky car with many features 1 the Stout single engine preliminary
transport plane with a Liberty engine,and the ~ Ford tri-
motor. He had a 1 so designed and b u i 1 t the ex~~ e rime n t a 1 Scarab
automobile with many features ahead of the tim~. At that time
he was retired in Phoenix, but was busily engaged in his
laboratory working on possible ornithopter flight, following
the ideas of the dragonfly.
The storm in Phoenix had been severe enough so that many
of the streets were flooded and in
crossing the street by means of a
one place we watched people
this in a desert town. rowboat,A Atter the f1rst
day the weather in Phoenix was fine but we still couldn't get
through the mountains easily. Bill and Alma drove us all
around the area, showing us Scottsdale and Camelback Mountain
and other attractive parts. On one occasion we stopped for
some fresh orange juice at a little stand across from an
orange grove. Alma remarked how delicious the orange juice
was and Bill asked the boy serving it whether it came from the
orange grove across the road. The boy reluctantly said, "No,
these oranges are out of season and the juice came from.
California oranges." Both of their faces showed their
chagrin.
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By Thursday, August 30, the weather over the mountains
had cleared up and we took off toward home. ·We refueled at
Tucson and at El Paso and finally stopped for the night at
Ca.~ r.~rrrCI,I ' Mckml, Texas. McA~~seemed to be a scraggly desert town whose
only reason for being was probably a few oil wells nearby.
The motel accommodatjons were minimal. The next morning we
made the 360 miles from Mc~~to our home at College Station
in a single hop of 3 hours and 51 minutes, completing one of
the most interesting vacations that we have had.
In September 1951 Tom Salter, vice-president and chief
engineer of Cessna called me up and asked me to do a
consulting job on their Cessna 170 airplane, trying to find
ways of reducing the cost of manufacture. They would let me
have a 170 airplane to fly as I desired for the next few
months and to study the details as I had time. I accepted the
job, took commercial airlines up to Wichita and flew the 170
m~ back to College Station. In the course of the work I
had the Cessna plant dig up and send me detailed information
on the weight of each individual part, the material cost arid
the man-hours required to make it. I also had a set of
assembly drawings. With this information I computed the
weight/square foot and the cost/square foot for the wings and
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the tail surfaces. I also got the cost/pound for all of the
parts of the airplane, including the wings and tail surfaces.
It was interesting, incidentally. that the cost/pound was
greater for the fuselage doors with their windows, locks and
hinges, than for any other part of the airplane, even
including the instrument panel with all of the instruments.
Of course, no gyroscopic instruments or radios were included
in the standard airplane of that time. When I finished, I had
suggested a number of detailed changes which I computed would
reduce the cost of manufacture by possibly $200. The main
suggestion was to use straight edges for the tail surfaces.
The tail surfaces were the same as those used for the
Cessna 195 and like many airplanes of that time, the contours
were all curved. This wasted material and required extra
cutting time. When Cessna came out with their 180 airplane,
they did use straight edges on the tail surfaces and
ultimately they have used them on all of their airplanes. I
believe the Ercoupe was the first light plane to come out with
all sheet metal covering for the entire tail surfaces and the
ailerons. When it first came out, even the large military
airplanes had fabric-covered ailerons, elevators and rudders.
The Cessna 170 followed the practice established by the
Ercoupe in using thin sheet metal covering for these surfaces. ERCOUPES AGAIN
Pspeaking of Ercoupes (which of course I seldom do), a friend
of mine, Bill Renshaw from Indianapolis, cut the following
news item under the heading "Flying Farmers USA.":
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"Ever wish you had some way of recording all those fine
ideas you get while on cross-country flights,
so hard to recapture once you are back at home?
ideas you find
Frank Andrew,
Flying Farmer and agricultural extension engineer,
of Illinois, has worked out a way to do just that.
University
Thinking
primarily of the time he could save,
fitted a dictaphone into his Ercoupe.
engineer Andrew recently
It worked so well that
he now uses it not only to record ideas but to dictate most of
his correspondence. He reports letters written while aloft
while relaxed just naturally read better."
CHARLIE ZIMMEmiAN'S PROJRCT
About that same time in 1951 a magazine article
appeared, telling about the trials and tribulations of Charlie
Zimmerman in his attempt to develop a special, novel type of
aircraft. Charlie was one of the fellows who had helped me in
the design and construction of the W-1 airplane and later put
out excellent reports on longitudinal stability and lateral
stability for the NACA. He also did excellent work in the
free-spinning tunnel and later initiated and developed the
flown freely free-flight tunnel in which models could be
instead of supported rigidly on balances.
an original thinker and a hard worker.
He was and still is
At the time we were
working on the W-1 we made some tests in the 7 x 10' wind
tunnel on wings of varying aspect ratio, from the usual values
clear down to 1 and with varying plan forms, including
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circular. The circular plan for~ gave very high lift·
coefficients and the maximum lift ~as not reached until an
angle in the neighbo)lrhood of 45° had been attained. While he
was willing to help us.a bit with the W-1, which was in effect
a short t~ke-off and landing airplane, he wanted to go very
much farther and make an airplane that would take off and land
verti'cally. He was soon spending his time on his own project
and starting with the low aspect ratio concept, evolved a
design that looked very promising. He evolved a design that
was more or less semicircular in plan form and that would have
two large propellers, one at each wing tip, just ahead of the
leading edge. By having the propellers rotate in opposite
directions, in each case the outer blade going down~&r~. he
could get in effect an increase of the span, which would help
the landing gear the climb performance. When on the ground,
would support the craft fn such a manner that the wing and the
propeller shafts were in vertical positions and the craft was
in effect resting upon its tail. With the large propellers,
the craft would then take off vertically like a helicopter.
In flight the craft would be nosed down to a horizontal
position, just like any other airplane. The propellers were
controllable so they could be used satisfactorily, both to
lift the plane off as a helicopter and to fly horizontally in
airplane-type flight. With a small amount of wetted area, the
craft should have an exceptionally high maximum speed. To
take care of the 900 change in attitude, the pilot would be
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standing up vertically when the airplane was on the ground and
then would be lying prone face down when it was flying
normally.
Charlie spent a lot of effort wo~king out a comfortable
position for the prone situation. Ch~~~ first worked on
models and eventually deaigned and built one that was powered
·b y e 1 e c t r i c i t y an d t h a t r o s e an d h o v e r e d sat i s fa c t or i 1 y • ~ 'UiCt..<... . • I
T.h e n ex t s t e p /-,a f 1 y i n g s i n g 1 e- p 1 a c e a i r c r a f t ~.,__ y.;"1( ~v1" .. ,c:J he
interested the Vought Co., then in New Haven, Connecticut, and
the Navy Department. The idea was that it was to be used
eventually as a fighter airplane that could land not only on
carriers, but in restricted areas on battleships, cruisers'and
so forth. The design was to be sleek, essentially a fairly
thick low aspect ratio wing with the people and the power
plants entirely within the wing itself. Charlie and his
family moved to New Haven where he was a consultant for Vought
and the first flying plane, the V-173, was designed,
constructed and test-flown there. As the first step, the
plane was built as an airplane only, leaving the helicopter
performance to be added later. ~had an ordinary tail-wheel-
type landing gear. This work was started, I believe, about
1939. Charlie went through many trials and tribulations with
the Navy desiring changes every now and then, some of which
cut down·the overall aims. The plane was first flown at the
end of 1942 and for the next 5 years went through several
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hundred hours of exhaustive flight tests and modifications and
more flight tests. In the meantime, starting in 1942, actual
design work was begun. on a single-seater shipboard fighter,
designated the XFSUl. It was completed and ready to taxi in
March 1947, 15 years after Charlie had started on the project.
At that moment the Navy put a "Stop order" on the project, and
the airplane has never been flown. Toward the end, the Navy's
interest was apparently limited to the high speed
possibilities of the project and when the jets came into the
·picture, they appeared more promising than Charlie's flying
wing. Charlie went back to the NACA, has since retired and is
now living in. Hampton. It must have been a great
disappointment to him, but now it can be put down along with
most research as adding to our knowledge.
BACK TO THE Ag-1
In the first part of 1951, the testing and minor
improving of the Ag-1 continued. At that time it had the
characteristics previously mentioned plus the following
features: Because many of the agricultural planes in use had
had contact with electric wires (in fact, many of the
Stearmans showed creases in their landing gear farings because
of contact with electric wires which they had broken), the
spring steel landing gear legs of the Ag-1 were sharpened to a break~·
point in front, so that they would help to~ through any
wires that might be contacted. In addition, two fairly large
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sloping tubes over the cockpit which provided part of the
turnover structure, would also guide any wires over the
cockpit, in case they slid back along the upper cowling.
Also, many airplanes had had their vertical tail surfaces~jf~~
damaged by the wires and in the Ag-1 we mounted a cable from
the top of the cockpit to the top of the vertical fin, so that
the wires would be guided over the fin and not harm it. Thus,
·some bad crashes could be avoided. ~Another feature of the Ag-
1 was that it had the instrument panel mounted so far ahead
that the pilot's head would not come in contact with it in a
crash, even if he did not wear a shoulder harness and an
allowance of 1 ft was made for the stretch of the pilot and
the seat belt. With my long arms I could reach the instrument
panel to make adjustments, but it turned out later that most
short pilots could not reach it at all with the seat belt
fastened. Thus this solution to a problem was not
satisfactory and a shoulder harness became mandatory to keep
the pilot's head from striking the ·instrument panel in a
crash~ The Ag-1 had been proyided with a standard Navy
seatbelt and shoulder harness wh]ch were strong enough to
support a 200 lb man with an acceleration of 40 A• or a
momentary load 40 times the man's weight, or 8,000 lbs. It
had been demonstrated that a man can withstand momentary
·accelerations of this order when properly supported. Since
the ·indications from safety belt failures are that
accelerations of 15-25 A are likely to be obtained in crashes
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of the kind under consideration, a harness capable of
withstanding a 40 R acceleration appeared well warranted and
adequate support for the harness was of course also necessary.
A novel arrangement combining the shoulder harness with the
seatbelt was used in the Ag-1 airplane. The harness, as
originally installed, had the usual loop at the lower end of
each shoulder strap, which the pilot had to slip over a
portion of the belt clasp before fastening the belt. Thus
there were 4 loose ends: 2 for the shoulder straps and 2 for
the belt, that had to be located and assembled before the
harness could be fastened. This is a time-consuming operation
and probably explains why many pilots, particularly duster
pilots, who may get in and out of their airplanes every few
minutes, often did not bother to use a shoulder harness, even
when it was available. The only final change made in the Ag-1
installation after considerable experimentation was the
permanent attachment of each shoulder strap to its respective
side of the seatbelt. Thus there were no loose ends to hunt
for. Now, nearly 30 years later, the arrangement is still
used in some of the new agricultural airplanes. The ·shoulder
straps of the Ag-1 were supported on an inertia~ reel, which
gave the pilot freedom and allowed him to move forward as far
as he desired. If the airplane were given a deceleration of
3 R or more, such as would occur even in a mild ~. the
inertia\ gear would lock the harness in the position it had at
the start and the pilot's shoulders would be restrained from
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going forward while the airplane came to a stop. At that time
the inertia~ reel had just come out but at the present time it
is in fairly general use.
During the entire design and construction period of the
Ag-1 I had been working closely with Hugh DeHaven and Howard
Hasbrook of the Crash Injury Research Unit of Cornell Medical
College and as the plane was being completed, they came out.
with the following 10 recommendations for making an
agricultural airplane crashworthy.
l. Design forward fuselage and cabin structure to
resist nominal crash loads as well a~ f light and
landing loads. 4
2. Design aircraft structures to absorb energy by
progressive collapse.
3. Design tubular structu~e to bend and fa~l outwardly
away from the occupants.
4. Locate the passengers and pilot seats as far aft in
the fuselage as possible, behind the wing.
5. Locate fuel tanks in or on the wings, not between
the fire wall and instrument panel.
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6. Provide space between the instruruent panel and fire
wall or nose section to permit forward displacement
of the panel and the instrument casings.
7. Design the instrument panel to be free of sharp
rigid edges in range of pilot's head.
8. Fabricate the instrument panel of ductile material
and/o:r
face.
use an energy-absorbing shield on the panel
9. Mount instrument cases on sheerpins and/or as low on
the panel as possible.
10.
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Provide shoulder harness, safety belts, seats and
seat anchorages of sufficient strength to resist
failure up to the point of cabin collapse.
Ag-i was made to conform to all of. these
recommendations except #5, to locate the fuel tanks in ur on
the wings and not between the fire wall and the instrument
panel. My study of crashes had shown that many occur because
of mishandling of the fuel system or failure of the fuel
system. Putting the fuel tanks in the wings requires extra
complication in the form of fuel pumps, valves and fittings.
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I thought that the overall safety picture would be better with
the simplest possible gra\ity feed fuel system draining
directly to the carburetor and this required a position in the
fuselage up back of the engine.
During the months of July, August, September and October
of 1951, th~ Ag-1 airplane was taken on a demonstration tour
by CAA personnel. The tour covered most of the agricultural
areas of the United States. At each stop the airplane was
demonstrated by a CAA pilot and then it was flown and
evaluated by other pilots, largely duster and sprayer
operators. In all, over 650 pilots have flown the airplane
and approximately 500 have filled out forms indicating their
evaluation of its various characteristics. Considering that
it was a single-place airplane and that there was no
opportunity for the pilots t0 receive dual control instruction
in it or to be checked out ty a pilot familiar with it, the
mere fact that it survived this treatment and returned tu
College Station appears to be a cert&~n amount of vindicatior.
of both its handling characteristics and its ruggednes~.
Before
the controls
each pilot flew the airplane he was briefed on
and informed regardin8 its special character-
istics by means of a typed sheet. Afterwards he was requested
to record his opinions on 37 individual items listed under the
main headings of Performance, flight Characteristics,
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Controls, Ground Handling of Materials, Protection, and
Maintenance and Repair. In obtaining a pilot's opinion of an
airplane, it is of course desirable tu have his considered
judgment after he has become used to it and has had consider
able experience with it. His first impression, such as was
obtained in the one or two flights possible for each pilot
during this tour, is often different from his judgment after
he. is familiar with the airplane. The first impressions of
several hundred pilots are of substantial value, however, and
averaging all of the ratings 98% of them were satisfactory or
better, 67% having been excellent. Overall, 2% of the ratings
were unsatisfactory. Of the 37 characteristics evaluated, the
worst two were considered unsatisfactory by about 1/7 of the
pilots who checked them. In general the approval was greater
than expected, especially considering the unusual features,
such as the high position of the pilot in the airplane for
vision forward and down, and the unusually powerful high lift
flaps. It is likely that some of the pilots thought that they
were receiving a favo')(_r in the opportunity to fly the airplane
and were therefore less severe in their ratings than they
might have been otherwise. I thought that on the whole it is
probable that more weight should have been given to the
unfavo~rable comments than to the favo~rable ones.
Before starting on the demonstration tour, the Ag-1 was
fitted with its first installation of spraying equipment.
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After the tour, the plane was returned to us for an extended
period of investigation and experiment with dispersal
equipment. Use was made of the measuring station on the Texas
A & M Plantation on which special instrumentation was
available for measuring the pattern of distribution. ~During TEXAS AGRICULTURAL AVIATION CONFERENCES
that general period I was a member of an advisory committee to
the Texas Aeronautics Commission. One day in January, 1952,
Asa Burroughs, who worked for the Aeronautics Commission,
called on me at our Texas A & M Aircraft Research Center to
see if the commission could help sponsor a joint project of
some kind. They needed to get some additional public
awareness. I told Asa that I was planning to set up an annual
conference on the use of airplanes in agriculture, starting
about a year later, after we had some worthwhile results from
the measuring station. Asa was enthusiastic about the idea,
but couldn't wait until the following year, and so, two months
later with the generous help of the agricultural departments
and with a booklet of 89 pages of prepared papers, we held the
first conference.
The year before I had been invited to give a paper on
the Ag-1 airplane at the Agricultural College of the
University of California in Davis, 'california. This was a
short course including information on ent~mology, weed control
and so forth, and the whole thing was repeated a couple of
days later at Riverside~ California in the south, in order to
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give the aerial applicators and farmers th~re ~n opportunity ...P ;~ t-n:>w. b..u.it.. ~., ... .
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to get .it without going all the way to Davis. WOur meetingVwas at Texas A & M
to be held on March 31 and April 1 of 1952. It happened that
an agricultural aviation meeting was to be held in Columbus at
Ohio State University about 2 months before our meeting and I
wanted to attend that one to get as many ideas as possible.
Fred Triplett, a farmer from north of Waco, Texas and then
Pre$ident of the Texas Flying Farmers Association and also
owner of a Cessna 170, flew me and Asa Burroughs to Columbus,
Ohio to attend the Ohio State meeting where we learned what we
could. Our meeting, which we optimistically called the "First
Annual Texas Agricultural Aviation Conference and Short Course
on Pest Control" was sponsored not only by Texas A & M, but
also by the Texas Aeronautics Commission and the Texas Flying
~ · Farmers Association. It included a morning of papers on
insect control, an afternoon demonstration of the Ag-1
airplane and the operation of the measuring station, following
my explanation of the Texas A & M Agricultural Aviation
program as a whole. In the evening we had a dinner meeting
chaired by E. M. Tex Anderson, President of the National
Flying Farmers Association and with talks by Dr. R. B. Lewis,
Director of the Texas Agricultural Experiment Station and by
Ralph E. Young, President of the Ohio Flying Farmers and
agricultural aviation coordinator for the Ohio Aviation Board.
The next morning had papers on weed and brush control,
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defoliation, and state laws and regulations. Finally in the
afternoon we had papers on agricultural aviation and the Civil
Aeronautics Administration by von Rosenberg, our pilot for the
Ag-1, and fundamentals of plant disease control and essentials
of seeding and fertilizing by airplane. The first year an
attempt was made to include the fundamentals of the various
subjects. In succeeding years, if the demand existed, the
subjects would be brought up to date with the latest
developments. The whole would form a possible nucleus for a
comprehensive text on agricultural aviation. The paper~ "''ere
all collected in a single volume which were made availah~e to
all of those who attended. The attendance was good, a
couple of months later sent e postcard to each of thcs~ who
attended, asking for their suggestions for improvin~ the
conferences and also asking whether it would be worthwh~le to
have another one next year and to make it an annual
The vote for continuance was just about unanimous and the
conferences were continued as long as I remained at Texas A &
M and for a few years afterward.
Chronologically, this next section really belongs just
ahead of the previous one on the Ag aviation conference.
Our first project sponsored by and financed by the NACA
was.
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