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Hi friends Syllogisms is one of the easy to win questions in reasoning, but we have seen so manyaspirants are finding difficult in solving these questions. Usually Venn diagram method (Easy) isused to solve these but they will consume time in case of NO/Possibility conclusion cases. Sohere we are explaining the concept of Syllogism with some examples by using some simple rules.First and foremost have a quick glance at the Main rules to solve Syllogism Problems…

All+All=AllAll+No=NoAll+Some=No Conclusion

Some+All=SomeSome+No= Some NotSome+Some= No Conclusion

No +All = Some Not (Reversed)No+Some=Some Not (Reversed)No+No=No ConclusionSome Not /Some Not Reversed +Anything = No Conclusion

If the conclusion is in “Possibility” case then these rules must be applied.

If All A are B then we can say - Some B are Not A is a PossibilityIf Some B are Not A then we can say - All A are B is a PossibilityIf Some A are B then we can say - All A are B is a Possibility All B are A is a Possibility

That is

All <=> Some Not ReversedSome => AllNO Conclusion = Any Possibility is true

When it is implemented (In case of Conclusion from Single Statement)

1. All => Some that means if All A are B then Some B are A is true.2. Some <=> Some that means if Some A are B then Some B are A is true.3. No <=> No that means if No A is B then NO B is A is true

Inorder to solve Syllogism there are two types:

1. Cross Cancellation2. Vertical Cancellation

Let us see about Cross Cancellation with example:Example 1:Statements:

1. All Cows are Parrots2. All Parrots are Birds3. No Bird is Monkey

Conclusions:

1. No Parrot is Monkey2. Some Cows being Monkey is Possibility

We know you might be able to solve it by using Venn diagram method that's good but this methodwon't help or a bit tough when it comes to No or possibility Conclusions

Here is explanationLets take 1st conclusion, we have to make relation between Parrot and Monkey so we will takestatements 2 and 3.

This is called Cross Cancellation , We have cancelled Bird from Bird so we have left with(ALL+NO) rule, and that leads to No Parrot is Monkey So Conclusion I is TRUE.

In second statement we have Cow and Monkey so we will need to make relation between them.

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For this we need to take all 3 statements.

Now we have left with ((All+All)+NO) that is No Cow is Monkey . We don’t have any rule to convertthis statement into Possibility so second conclusion is FALSE

I think we are clear with above explanation now see about Vertical CancellationExample 2:Statements:

1. Some Mails are Messages2. All Updates are Messages

Conclusion:

1. All Mails Being Update is a Possibility2. No Update is Mail

Lets take Conclusion “All Mails Being Update is a Possibility” that means we have to make relationbetween Mails and Updates

This is called Vertical cancellation. In this case direction of adding first phrase will be reversed i.eInAbove example the conclusion will be All+Some = No Conclusion.

IF we get No Conclusion in case of Possibility then according to Rules in Possibility case will bedefinitely true. So Conclusion 1 follows and Conclusion 2nd Don’t.

So far we have seen how to deal with All, Some, Some Not and No now let us see about SomeNot in reversed condition.

What is Some Not (Reversed)?To explain this let’s take a Simple example

1. No A is B2. All B is C

So the conclusion you get for this will be as follows(No+All) A is C = (Some Not Reversed) A is CThereforeSome C are Not A.

Finally my advice is...Use this only if there are No or Possibility conclusions by following the above rules else you canhappily use Venn Diagram method (If you find this method useful though). Don't get more confusedfor easy topics by doing unnecessary faults.

Lastly feel free to ask us if you have any doubts....Enjoy Reading

Update:Hi guys recently I have found one rule and some terms that are asking in tests these days which Iintend to share with you guys...

"No" statement can be converted into two types1. Some Not2. No (interchanging Subject and Predicate)

Confused???Let me explain this with an ExampleSuppose statement is given as No Professor is Student then this statement can be valid to takeas1. Some Professor are not Student2. No Student is Professor

cleared now.

Another update is now a days in exams they are mentioning None, Only, Almost etc instead of All,Some in both statements and conclusions so I'm listing the terms here.

All => Every, Each, Any, None, Not a single, OnlyRemaining will be treated as followsSome, Many, a few, Quite a few, Not many, Very little, Most of, Almost, Generally, Often,Frequently, AtleastNote: As far as I know these terms are very rare for Bank Exams.

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Anonymous March 16, 2015 10:41 p.m.

Thanks alot for sharing the tricks.. its very useful and easy to understand.If possible kindly share some practice set.

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Harshini March 16, 2015 10:55 p.m.

You are welcome...Already posted so many practice sets please Search or see in Tests label.PM me if you have any doubtsAll the very best

Hari Prasad May 22, 2015 6:54 a.m.

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if the conclusion in same not so possibilty me kya lenge

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If All A are B then we can say - Some B are Not A is a PossibilityIf Some B are Not A then we can say - All A are B is a PossibilityIf Some A are B then we can say - All A are B is a Possibility All B are A is a Possibility


how to solve facing outward and facing center circular arrangement

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jai dhingra March 29, 2015 3:01 a.m.

if in vertical cancellation example the order of statement is reversed then we will get a validconclusion between Mails and Update

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Sorry Jai I didn't get your doubt clearly, can you please specify

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Bikas Das March 31, 2015 6:48 p.m.

sir this is a very useful method.Thanks a lot for sharing the tricks.

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You are welcome Bikas Das

Sudhanshu Sekhar April 04, 2015 8:53 p.m.

Hello sir,If in the conclusion list its stated:-1.some A are either B or C.And in the statement:-1. Some A are B.2. Some B are C.Then how we can solve this.Thank u sir.

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DreamJob Adda April 05, 2015 11:59 a.m.

Hi Sekhar,As you see there is No conclusion for Some+Some combination both in Venn diagrammodel and these Rules model but there is one condition that must satisfy the followingruleif Statements consists of "Some" andconclusions consists of Some and No (with same names) then it is possible to sayEither Or otherwise you can say it as No Conclusion...

Laxmi Kumari April 16, 2015 4:01 p.m.

can any one explain how to solve syllogism with at least cases..like atlest some apple are mango

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DreamJob Adda April 16, 2015 4:23 p.m.

Hi Laxmi,Adding Atleast is just to confuse you...you don't have to consider itif"at least some apples are mango" is given just takesome apples are mango to solve that's it...if you have any more doubts comment here.please hit LIKE to support me thank youRegards,Harshini

Anonymous April 17, 2015 11:48 a.m.

Some teachers are professors.Some lecturers are teachers.

Conclusions:I. All teachers as well as professors beinglecturers is a possibility.II. All those teachers who are lecturers arealso professors.1) if only conclusion I follows.2) if only conclusion II follows.3) if either conclusion I or conclusion II follows.4) if neither conelusion I nor conclusion II follows.5) if both conclusions I and II follow.

anyone plz tell me the answer and tick to solve

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Hi,Here answer is 4...For these kind of questions you have to draw the venn diagram and try to solve them by















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meaning(instead of logic) most of the questions like these can be cleared...


thnx a lot mam


You're welcome

ashok Sharma May 10, 2015 1:15 p.m.

but mem u said na.when no conclusion is answer any posibility can b answer...

DreamJob Adda May 10, 2015 2:17 p.m.

I already mentioned that these are very rare and unique ones, also they have threeterms in them so be aware of these kinds of questions and do like that.

Anonymous June 07, 2015 12:33 p.m.

i think answer should be 1... according to ven diagram coz its possibilities case

Lalita Chopra April 17, 2015 2:12 p.m.

Hello,Please clarify, what type of questions can not be solved with this method? I am bit confused whereto apply this method and where to apply venn diagram method.

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Lalita Chopra April 17, 2015 2:13 p.m.

Hello,Please clarify, what type of questions cannot be solved with this method as I am bit confusedwhere to apply this method and where to apply venn diagram method?

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Hi Lalita,No need to get confused every method is meant to solve quickly, here you can followany method but the thing is time consumption... Venn diagram takes a bit more timeincase of No and Possibilities comparing to Syllogism Rules I mentioned. If there aren'tany NO, Possibilities and you feel Venn model is easy you can use that...All the BestRegardsHarshiniPlease do hit LIKE and Share if you want to support me...

Vinita Yadav April 17, 2015 8:04 p.m.

No +All = Some Not (Reversed)reversed means what?

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Hi Vinita,Suppose takeNo A is BAll B are C

Now conclusion isno+all = some not (A is C) this has to be reversedTherefore you get something like thissome C is not Ayou have to change the places of A and C that's it....Regards,Harshini

Vinita Yadav April 17, 2015 10:39 p.m.

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You are welcome VinitaAll the best to you

Anonymous April 18, 2015 10:21 p.m.

No A is Ball B is CAnswer is no A is C.Pls clarify

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Hi...No + All = Some not reversedso No C is A

Jyoti Rajput June 20, 2015 11:18 a.m.

Right answer isSome c is not A

Jyoti Rajput June 20, 2015 11:19 a.m.

Answer is some c is not APlz fix if m wrong

DreamJob Adda June 20, 2015 12:03 p.m.

Hi Jyothi, You are correct... thanks for correcting me, I mistyped above answer and sorry forconfusing you.


Madam will you give one example for all of the statement and conclusion according to this methodso that we can get easily.

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Anugrih Choube April 21, 2015 5:11 p.m.

Stmt: Some A are B

Plz list all the possibility conclusions for the same

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Hi Anugrih,Some A are Bthen following conclusions occur in possibilitiesAll A are B is a Possibility(or)All B are A is a Possibility

umapriya suresh April 22, 2015 12:57 p.m.

I have doubt in either or and neither or questions.. Could you plz explain with simpleexamples ..I can understand the rules and finally I would select wrong answers ..plzexplain clearly


If Statements consists only SOME or other combinations from which answers do notoccurandin Conclusions where any two conclusions consists ofSOME and NO with same names then it is possible to say EITHER OR hereFinally if those two also have different names then you can sayNEITHER NOR



















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how would we apply vertical cancellation to this kind of question:

all calenders are papers.some calenders are animals.

conclusion: 1) some papers are animals 2) some animals are papers

according to venn diagram both are true but according to vertical cancellation no conclusionshould be the answer as all+some=no conclusion. should i reverse the phrase here as well? is there any difference in considering the order ofphrases when it comes to right vertical cancellation or left vertical cancellation?

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Hi,I already mentioned in the above explanation USE these rules only in cases of NO andPossibilities Cases to avoid confusions.Anyway here in vertical cancellation as mentioned above you have to take Some + All = Someso that you will get Some Animals are Papers = 2nd conclusionand Some can be reversed so thatSome animals are papers = Some papers are animals is true


Hi,

I'd like to appreciate the efforts you put in imparting such useful imformation about syllogism. I'msure a lot of people will benefit from it.

I have a query and i'll be grateful if you could provide the detailed explanation of the technique thatyou will use in solving it.

Q: All Parrots are FlowersNo Flower is a carrotAll carrots are fruits

Conclusion: Some Flowers being fruits is a possibility.

Is the above conclusion true or false?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks in advance.

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Hi, sorry for the delay replyBy cross cancelling 2nd and 3rd you will get Some fruits are not flowersDon't get confused here this is a tricky one, they have asked Possibility condition.From above the conclusion it is clear that it must be Some Not rightso in these type of cases if possibility is given in any one of these Some or NotSay for example "Some Flowers being fruits is a possibility" or "No Flowers being fruitsis a possibility" then it is "True"...(Remember only incase of Possibility)if it is not given it it do not followssay "Some Flowers are fruits" this is "False"

Anonymous May 05, 2015 8:45 p.m.

Thanks a ton! It was helpful. You rock!!

PARVEEN KUMAR April 25, 2015 3:01 p.m.

Plz provide example of vertical cancellation.....great job done by u

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Thank you....great jobCan u please explain vertical cancellation using this example:-Statements: A. Some poor are rich B. All rich are doctors. C. Some intelligent are doctors.

Conclusions: I. At least some poor are intelligent. II. All intelligent being rich is a possibility.

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Hi Praveen,In first conclusion Poor and Intelligent are taken so first you have to take A and B, bycancelling Rich you will get Some poor are doctors as you see some + some = noconclusion 1st one is false.In 2nd conclusion Intelligent and doctors are taken if you do vertical cancellation Some+ All = Some Intelligent are Richby rule in possibility Some A are B => All A are B is a Possibility or All B are A is aPossibilityso 2nd follows


Thank u very much ....


You are welcome Praveen

m@dm@x April 27, 2015 12:35 a.m.

what if there was no possibility written in 2nd conclusion like "all intelligent being rich" ..then wat wud hv been d answer ???


Hi m@dm@x,then answer will be only Some + All = Some Intelligent are Rich

Rohan Kumar May 25, 2015 3:08 p.m.

mam u say no conclusion =any follows but say 1st conclusin is false,how mam pleaseexplaiin


Hi Rohan,You have mistaken it...No conclusion = Any POSSIBILITY is true

NOT any follows please refer again

Anonymous June 19, 2015 11:24 a.m.

hi mam,

i have the same doubt...Some poor are rich All rich are doctors.I + A = I so some poor are doctor

some poor are doctorSome intelligent are doctors.I + I - No conclusionso any possibility is true right? plz clear it mam

venkatesh kumar April 25, 2015 10:00 p.m.

hi

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Hi Venkatesh Kumar


Hi can you mention some implications and conversion. Thanks

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Hi, can you be more precise about the doubt you mentioned.

Sarthak Mishra April 28, 2015 12:14 p.m.

What about only statements?

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Hi Sarthak,May I know which "Only statements" you are referring about?

venkatesh kumar April 28, 2015 1:01 p.m.

all autumn are fasinateall fasinate are basketsconclusion:all fasinate being autumn is a possibilitysome autunm being basket is a possibilityans plz......... rply soon

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DIMENDRA SAHU May 09, 2015 1:29 p.m.

Hi my doubt is can we conclude based on single statement only?if yes then conclusion should be some fasinate are not autumn..m i correct?


Some Not is not possible with single statement...

jai shekhawat May 02, 2015 3:14 p.m.

Thanks a lot...Hats off to your efforts...

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jai shekhawat May 02, 2015 3:15 p.m.

Thanks a lot....Hats off to your efforts...

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You are welcome...Jai


Sir Can u suggest any book for Syllogism?

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deepti May 06, 2015 12:56 a.m.

This method is incorrect. In the case of example 2 ...the one with mails and msgs...answer shouldbe none follow. Because the statement it self says some mails are msgs therefor all mails beingmsgs is not a possibility.

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DreamJob Adda May 06, 2015 10:55 a.m.

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If 'Some Mails are Messages' given in options then you can opt for it. I'm onlymentioning about possibility case here in direct

deepti May 06, 2015 1:08 a.m.

This method is wrong. In example 2 ....none follow...since It is stated that some mails aremessages...therefor possibility of all mails being msgs cannot exist.

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Hi Deepti,Ok lets say your answer is correct that is Some Mails are Messages in Possibility RulesI mentioned Some can be transformed into All as follows"If Some A are B = All A are being B is a Possibility or All B are being A is a Possibility"now try again

Subhashree Senapati May 07, 2015 12:27 p.m.

Statements:Maximum copy are pen. Minimum pen are not pencil.Some pencil are rubber. No rubber is sharpener.Conclusions:I. 0.00001% copy can be rubber.II. Maximum pencil can be pen.

For the 1st cocnlusion we need 1st 3 statemnts to be used..but from 1st 2 only we get NOCONCLUSION..I+O=No conclusion..hence 1st doesnt follow..But answer is 1st follows HOW???plss explain

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Hi Subhashree,I'm so sorry that this is the first time I'm seeing this type of syllogism. I too don't knowhow to solve this but I will definitely try my level best to find solution for this.Can you please say from where you found this?

DIMENDRA SAHU May 09, 2015 1:41 p.m.

Statements: No door is dog. All the dogs are cats.

Conclusions:

No door is cat.No cat is door.Some cats are dogs.All the cats are dogs.

only 3rd option is correct how?

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Hi Dimendra,No +All gives Some Not (Reversed) so in those conclusions there is no Some not

AlsoAll dogs are cats can be taken aseitherSome cats are dogs

or

Some dogs are cats hence 3rd conclusion follows


Statements: Some gnarl are gnash. Some gnash are choir.














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Conclusions: I. Some gnarl are choir. II. Some gnarl being choir is a possibility.sir isme conclusion possible nhi h na?but answer me dia hua hai.. only second follows..?

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Hi Ashok,In this Only 2nd follows here is how

Some + Some = no conclusion

As per rules if there is No conclusion then Any Possibility is TrueHere only 2nd conclusion is having Possibilityso it will be the answer.


Statements: All autumn are fascinate. All fascinate are baskets.Conclusion: I. All fascinate being autumn is a possibility.II. Some autumn being basket is a possibility.i marked answer both follows but answer is only one follows.Some televisions are gnash. No gnash is a mobile.Conclusions: I. Some televisions are not mobile.II. Some mobile are not television.in this i put both follos,,but answer is only one follows Statements: No jostle is a freeze. No freeze is a scent.Conclusions: I. Some jostle not being scent is a possibility.II. Some jostle being scent is a possibility. i marked none follows but answer is both follows.

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Hi Ashok,First one already explained in above comments.2nd quesSome + No = Some NotsoSome televisions are not mobile is correct remember ONLY SOME can be taken in bothways whereas Some Not cannot.

3rd questionNo + No = no conclusionTherefore any Possibility will FollowSo Both follows since both have Possibility in them

Akanksha Srivastava June 19, 2015 11:27 a.m.

Hello there, would you please explain the first que again i am little bit confused here..according to your rules only second conclusion i.e. ''SOME AUTUMN BEING BASKETIS POOSSIBILITY'' Should be correct right ?? but you explained in above asked quethat both the conclusion will follow.. how? please explain it thank u.

Akanksha Srivastava June 19, 2015 12:53 p.m.

mam please explain the first que again please


plz expain the first qstn again.what Akansha said is RIGHT.And the Explanation fromabove has been removed.So,we are not able to follow it.And you are really doing greatjob.Thanks alot for your kind work.

Saurabh Sneh May 12, 2015 8:30 p.m.

Statement : no fruit is vegitableall potatoes are vegitable some fruit are applesconclusions:














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1 some apples are potatoes2 some potatoes being fruits is a possibility

Q2 statement:no fruit is vegetablesall potatoes are vegetables.some fruits are applesconclusion:1 no fruit is a potato.2 atleast some apples are fruits

please sir explain again vertical methode with diagram

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Hi Saurabh,Q1:Some apples are fruits + No fruit is vegetable = some apple are not vegetables assome not appears 1st conclusion will not follow

If we take All potatoes are vegetables + No vegetable is fruits = No potato is fruitTherefore Neither follows.

Q2:All + No = No potato is fruit => No fruit is potato 1st followsBy converting 3rd we get Some apples are fruits (don't care about Atleast).So Both Follows.

Varun Bansal May 16, 2015 1:20 p.m.

Statement : All A are B.Conclusion : Some B being A is a possibility.what is the answer for this... The conclusion follows or not??please give the explanation too for the answer. Mam plzzzz help me

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Hi Varun,Ans is Not Follows

As per conversion rules given in possibilitiesif All A are BthenSome B are Not A is possibility

Varun Bansal June 04, 2015 12:02 p.m.

Thank you mam #Respect _/\_


You are most welcome Varun


hi mam , All A are B can be converted into Some B are A so the conclusion Some B being A is definitely true ...so conclussion follows right?or is it like we have to check only possibility rule if conclusion has possibility?

plz help mam


Hi,All A are B can be directly converted into Some A are B (or) Some B are A


In Case Some not + Some not reverse = ?

Like Here,















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Some Books are intelligentNo intelligent is wisesome wise are wind.

Conclusion Some Books are not Wind.

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Hi,Anything + Some Not = no conclusion so your conclusion is not follows

Anonymous May 17, 2015 10:10 a.m.

If the conclusion is in “Possibility” case then these rules must be applied.If All A are B then we can say - Some B are Not A is a PossibilityIf Some B are Not A then we can say - All A are B is a PossibilityIf Some A are B then we can say - All A are B is a Possibility All B are A is a PossibilityThat isAll <=> Some Not ReversedSome => AllNO Conclusion = Any Possibility is true

As given are these the only rules for possibility cases.............?If there are any other please share......And thanks for the help

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hello ... can u explain an example with 5 stmnts pls .....

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Hi,sorry for the delay reply...Almost every syllogism can be concluded by 2 or 3 statements, it doesn't matter howmany are given in question. You have to chose among them according to conclusionsthat's all.

Anonymous May 22, 2015 10:44 a.m.

No reply:(

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Hi,Sorry for not giving reply... busy in preparing an ebook for you guys about IndianBanking and few more rules of Syllogisms...lot of workCan you please post your comment again.... :-D


Mam can u explain syloogism with venn diagram.all possibility cases

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Hi,I felt Venn diagram model is tough in case of Possibilities to be frank I too got confusedusing this model for possibility so I preferred explain it in Rules which is posted here...I'm really sorry for that but this is really easy method for solving them. If you just spendsome time for it in the beginning.


Ok thnks but I am not able to understand aeio method for possibility.as in some wuestions its toomuch confusing.can u provide a seperate notes on possibility by aeio method

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I'm working on it at present. I will notify you soon after posting the notes.


Thnksssss a lottttt mam

Amit May 23, 2015 2:27 p.m.

statement------

all apple is orangeall orange is mango

conclusion---

1) some mango is not apple2) some mango is not orange3) some orange is not apple

please reply which option is right or wrong

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Mam please tel me how the digits are arranged in question 1 st


All are wrong

Rohit Kumar May 24, 2015 4:23 p.m.

Hlo

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Hari Prasad May 25, 2015 9:33 p.m.

Mam, please provide detailed notes for solving "being possibilty" cases. so that students will bemore benefited.

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Statements 1.All men are girls.2.Some girls are students.Conclusion1.All girls are men2.Some girls are not students.How to solve this que.???? Coz we can't do cancellation methods

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All + Some = No conclusionso both do not follows

we can cancel it through Cross cancellation method (girls)...





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Kunal Beats of Samurai May 31, 2015 8:29 p.m.

hi Harshini,In example 2 you are saying that conclusion 1 is following but in the statements it is written 'allupdates are messages' which mean Update is inner circle of messages. if we will follow theconclusion 1 which is all mails being update is a possiblity. Then it will result in mails as innercircle for update. which follows all mails are messages.I think conclusion 2 is true. Can you please clear my doubt.

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Kunal Beats of Samurai May 31, 2015 8:43 p.m.

Hi harshiniI got the ans. please disregard my last message

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Statement:All gliders are parachutes.No parachute is an airplane.All airplanes are helicopters.

Conclusion:No helicopter is a glider.All parachutes being helicopters is a possibility.

Could you please help us on this?

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From 1 and 2 we get No Glider is Aeroplane + 3rd gives some notSo 1st conclusion is not possible

From 2nd and 3rd we get Some helicopters are not ParachuteBy applying ruleswe get All parachutes being helicopters is a possibility2nd Follows


thanks DreamJob Adda for ur valuable answer.Could you please elaborate whats the meaning of 'All parachutes being helicopters is a possibility'

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INDRAJIT CHANDRA June 04, 2015 9:28 a.m.

Mam could you wxplain some syllogism case where the statement contains some not and how toarrive at conclusion in such cases

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Hi... how to solve no+some statements? can you give examples

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Hi,Suppose takeNo A is BSome B are C

Now conclusion isno + some = some not (A is C) this has to be reversedTherefore you get something like thissome C is not A


thanks for your reply:-)is no+all and no+some ll give the same result? i got confused between these two?

DreamJob Adda June 05, 2015 11:39 a.m.

















These are the rulesNo + All = Some Not (Reversed)No + Some = Some Not (Reversed)


Thank you:-)Reversed means swap the subject and predicate right?


Please clarify, I have another doubt.Statements :All machines are bad. Some bad are globe.All globe are round.Conclusions :I. Some machines are round.II. No machine is round.

The answer is : either conclusion I or conclusion II is true

How they got this answer. is there any rules for this either type answer?I couldn't find the answer for this type of problem please help....


Yes


This is a condition in Either or caseIf Statements consists only SOME or other combinations from which answers do notoccurandin Conclusions where any two conclusions consists ofSOME and NO with same subjects and predicates then it is possible to say EITHER ORhere

same happened in the above example you mentioned...

PS Note: Please specify your name I'm not able to get the comments correctly


Hi i am Karthikeyan.Thanks for your fast response:-)Now i ll try this kind of problem, if i have doubts then i ll ask you.once again Thank you so much for your response:-)


hi this is karthikeyan

Statements: Some pots are keys.Some keys are locksAll keys are rings.

Conclusions: I. Some pots are locks.II. Some pots are not locks III. Some pots are ringsIV. Some pots are not rings

Answer is either I or II and III Followsplease explainalso kindly give the all rules of either or type still i don't get clear idea about either or type, please help me.


Hi karthikeyan,let me start with 3rd conclusionfor that you have to take 1 and 3 that isSome + All give Some Pots are Rings hence this is trueNow 1 and 2 conclusionI already mentioned when there is no answer arise from given statements andconclusions haveSOME and NO (forgot to mention SOME NOT) with same Subjects and Predicatesthen Either Or will be the answer soI and II will be either or case here


so if we have SOME and NO with same subject and predicate, SOME and SOME NOT with same subject and predicateand SOME NOT and NO with same subject and predicate, then we can conclude eitheror. is my observation right?













Thank you a lot:-)


Statements: Some headphones are earphonesAll earphones are telephones.No telephones are television

Conclusions: I. No earphones are televisionII. Some headphones are not televisionIII. Some headphones are telephonesIV. Some telephones are not television

answer given : all followsanswer which i got is only I and III follows,which one is right? explain

Note: i dont no whether this message is properly submitted or not:-(


Only these twoSOME and NO SOME and SOME NOT with same subject and predicate


You are welcome


Thank you:-)waiting for the answer of question which i sent t u few minutes ago


Hi, lets discuss conclusion wise...1. for this 2nd and 3rd statements have to be takenAll + No gives No earphones are television (It follows)

2. First take 1 and 2 you get "Some headphones are telephones" (this is 3rdConclusion).NowSome headphones are telephones + All earphones are telephonesgivesSome headphones are not television (It follows)

4. I'm so sorry that this rule which I forgot to mention is important here... I'm updating inthe above post now. Thanks to you too for reminding it to me."No telephones are television" can be converted into"Some telephones are not television" This is a valid transmission it is True.


2. Shall we use the conclusion which is true to find another conclusion? what is the rulefor that.how Some headphones are telephones + All earphones are telephonesll give Some headphones are not television. some + all = some right.

4. can we convert No statement into some not with same subject and predicate?


I'm really sorry it's my typing mistake I took wrong statement, here is corrected one...From 1 and 2 we get "Some headphones are telephones"Now Some headphones are telephones + No telephones are television gives Some headphones are not television

I didn't used 3rd conclusion to solve this. I just mentioned that 3rd conclusion hasarrived there itself that's all. We can't use conclusions to get answers.


Thank you for your reply....but i cant get u, there is no statement like Some headphones are telephones, then howcan we use it?

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for 4th conclusion... shall we convert No statement into some not with same subject andpredicate?


Yes we can, I have specified this in an Update above please refer that in post again


"Some headphones are telephones" is a derived statement from given 1 and 2statements in the question which I further used to get conclusion.

I didn't took it from Conclusions I derived it from question itself that's all...


Thank you so much:-)sorry for late acknowledgement.now i ll try some problems, if i have doubts then i ll contact you, thankyou


Hello......how to solve statements when the result is like either I or II follows

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gaurav singh June 05, 2015 4:29 a.m.

Statement:1.some places are cities2.some villages are places.3.some places are cool.Conclusions:1.some villages being cool is a possibility.2.some villages are cities.Mam will u plz explain dis..........

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Mam plz u explain the case of some+some.......

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gaurav singh June 05, 2015 4:37 a.m.

Mam will u plz explain the case of some+some.....

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Hi Gaurav,Some + Some leads to No conclusionyou have to check two conditions:1) if given conclusions are in possibility then it will be the answer,2) check if the given statements posed as answer (by interchanging)

if these 2 are not satisfied then None follows is the answer

Hari Prasad June 05, 2015 5:34 a.m.

Pls explain,

Statements:All bulbs are chairsAll chairs are tablesAll tables are mirrors conclusion:All chairs being mirror is posibility

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If conclusion is 'All chairs are Mirrors' then it will follow



















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Above conclusion do not follows

Hari Prasad June 05, 2015 7:00 a.m.

Pls expain,

1)Statements:All caps are crownsSome crowns are masksAll masks are canvasConclusion:No crown being canvas is possibility

2)All fruits are leavessome leaves are flowersAll flowers are treesconclusion:All flowers being leaves is possibility

3)Some inputs are outputssome outputs are resultsconclusion:All results being output is possibility

4)Some cubes are diceAll dies are plasticconclusion:All plastic being dice is possibility

5)All days are weekssome weeks are months No month is yearconclusion:some months not being weeks is possibilty

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Hari Prasad June 06, 2015 2:24 p.m.

pls, explain d above


Statements:Some Koyal are Parents.No Parents are Employed.Some Employed are not Koyal.Some caps are Koyal.

Conclusion :(i) Some Employed are definitely not caps(ii) Some Employed being cap is a possibility(iii) Some caps are not Parents.1) Only (i) follow2) Only (ii) or (iii) follow3) Only (i) or (ii) follow4) All follow5) None of these

Please explain how tosolve this and also if you can give some more ezamples where atatementcontains some not that would be very helpful,

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Statements:Some Koyal are Parents.No Parents are Employed.Some Employed are not Koyal.Some caps are Koyal.Conclusion :(i) Some Employed are definitely not caps(ii) Some Employed being cap is a possibility(iii) Some caps are not Parents.1) Only (i) follow2) Only (ii) or (iii) follow3) Only (i) or (ii) follow4) All follow5) None of these

Please explain mam how to solve this

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gaurav singh June 05, 2015 1:03 p.m.

Mam plz explain cases of some+some

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no+some=some not[reversed],in this case how possibility is true

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Statement1.All Ports are airports2.some airports are harbours.3.some harbours are docks.Conclusion1.All docks being airports is a possibility.

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all A r B

cl : all A r B ?? follow or not?

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No it do not follows

All A are B => Some A are B or vice versa


yo thnx :)


Some bob are LuceAll Luce are monkAll monk are loudSome loud are tachy

Conclusion1.all tachy not being Luce is possibility2.some bob not being loud is possibility

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Questions 1: Statement: No physics is geography. Some zoology are biology. All physics are zoology.

Conclusions: I. All geography are zoology is a possibility. II. All zoology are geography is a possibility.

Questions 2: Statement: No cup is a medal. All medals are trophies. No trophy is a shield.

Conclusion: I. Some shields being cups is a possibility.

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Thanku mam for the valuable post. ..kindly tell wat will happen if "some" and "mostly" remain?

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st : some A r B

cl : some B being not A is a possibility .

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St: Some A are B

Cl: All A are B is a Possibility or All B are A is a Possibility


some A r B no B is C .

cl : some A r not C

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It is true


No a is bAll b is cCl:no a is cRight???Since u said no a is b=no b is a

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Don't get confused when there is direct way to cancel you need not have to change thepattern.No + All gives Some not reversedso Some C is not A


All petals are flowersSome flowers are not petalsSome petals are colorsCl:some flowers are colorsSome flowers are not colors

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Thanks alot mam to provide such easy method to solve these problemI have one doubt pls clarifyIn below question where to use no+all and where all+no

No house is a schoolAll colleges are schoolAll school are teachersConclusionNo house is a teacherIf we use no+all which means somenot in 1 &2 statementThen if apply somenot +all 2&3 in there should be no conclusionBut answer says this conclusion follows

Pls help me regarding first set of rules u provided

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Hi,first let me explain about the conclusion given.As conclusion deals with House and Teacher you have to take 1st and 3rd statementsto get conclusion.so No + All gives Some Not Reversed you get Some teachers are not housesso that conclusion does not follows...


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Now, I have mentioned above about two types of cancellations Cross and Verticalbased on these you can apply No + All or whatever based on the given statements andconclusions...I think I have cleared your doubt if you still got doubt please do comment here...

sachin June 16, 2015 12:41 a.m.

hi....i have solved many problems by using above trick but couldn't solve the given below problem.statement:-some A are B.some B are C.some C as well as A are D.conclusion:-some D are B.some C are B.all C being B is a possibilty.please help me out.

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Hi Sachin,Lets start with from the last.3. Here C and B are given so you can take 1st and 2nd statementsas per rule Some + Some gives None so any possibility is True so it Follows.

2. Just reverse the 2nd statement you will get it.

1. Here D and B are given as far as I remember that As well as is a possibility case.In 1st conclusion there is no possibility so it do not follows.

Aluru June 17, 2015 12:45 a.m.

What is this some not reavsed please explain

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saketh aluru June 17, 2015 12:47 a.m.

What is this some not reavsed please explain

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Hi Saketh,I have already explained this in above post anyway here it is.To explain this let’s take a Simple exampleNo A is BAll B is C

So the conclusion you get for this will be as follows(No+All) A is C = (Some Not Reversed) A is CThereforeSome C are Not A.

the subject and predicate will interchange their places...

Hema Saini June 17, 2015 10:57 p.m.

Hello mam thanks a ton for this wonderful post .Actually i want to ask a prob i often found whilesolving syllogs. My prob is whenevr we are solving some+some type statement it gives noconclusion acrding to your rules. but some if we have 3 statements and while solving them wehave to make use off all those three frst 2 statements with SOME on cancellation gives NOCONLUSION. so how can we use that no conclusion with SOME of third statement ???? hope uunderstand.. u can see below problem of same type..All bottles are cups.Some cups are jugs.Some jugs are plates.Conclusions:I. Some plates are cups.II. Some plates are bottles.Ill Some cups are papers.IV. Some bottles are papers. -(1) Only III and IV follow(2) Only I and II follow(3) Only I and III follow(4) Only II and IV follow

thank you pls solve this ASAP..

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Hi Hema, welcome to my blog...If question consists of 3 statements doesn't mean you have make use of all 3 for everyconclusion. You have to consider only those statements which are useful to getconclusions.Some times answers will be appeared only using 1 or 2 statements also.

Well coming to your example, it is not correct as "Papers" is not given in question.Also 1st and 2nd conclusions do not follows.

gaurav singh June 18, 2015 12:42 p.m.

Statement: only medicines are tabletsMost tablets are tonic.Many tablets are bitter.Conclusion1.Many tonics are medicines.Many bitter are medicines.Conclusion1.only tonics being tablets is a possibility.2.only tonics being bitter is a possinability.Mam will u plzzzzz explain it quickly, actually my exam is on 20th june, if posssible.....thnkssss inadvance!!!!!!!

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Hi Gaurav,First convert Only = All and Most, Many = SomethenFor 1st conclusion All medicines are tablets + Some tablets are tonic = no conclusionSo it do not follows - similarly for 2nd conclusion...

As per rule Some => All Possibility 3rd conclusion followsand there is no conclusion for 4th, also Possibility is given so it follows


All the Best for your Exam

Vivek June 18, 2015 6:56 p.m.

pls solve this..

No day is night.All nights are noon.No noon is an evening.Conclusions:I. No evenings are nights.II. All days being noon is a possibility.

ANS: both conclusion I and conclusion II follow.

Some papers are boards.No board is a card.Conclusions: I. No card is a paper.II. Some papers are cards.

ANS: either conclusion I or conclusion II follows.

No day is night.All nights are noon.No noon is an evening.Conclusions: I. No day is noon.II. No day is an evening.

ANS : neither conclusion I nor conclusion II follows.


Pls solve this:No day is night.All nights are noon.No noon is an evening.Conclusions:I. No evenings are nights.II. All days being noon is a possibility.

ANS: both conclusion I and conclusion II follow.

Some papers are boards.









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No board is a card.Conclusions: I. No card is a paper.II. Some papers are cards.

ANS: either conclusion I or conclusion II follows.

No day is night.All nights are noon.No noon is an evening.Conclusions: I. No day is noon.II. No day is an evening.

ANS : neither conclusion I nor conclusion II follows.


Hi Vivek, Thanks for commenting...1. All + No = No nights are evenings => No evenings are nights True2. No + All = Some day are Not noon => All Day being Noon is a Possibility(3&4). Some + No = Some papers are not cardbut in these cases if conclusions has Some and No with same subject and Predicatesthen Either or is true5. No + All does not give No so it is False6. No + No = No conclusion so FalseAll the Best.Vivek please hit Like and Share with your friends about this blog...Thanks

Akanksha Srivastava June 19, 2015 5:21 p.m.

No bank is a market. Some markets are offices.All restaurants are offices. Some banks are rooms.

Conclusions: I. Some markets are not rooms. II. Some offices are not banks.III. Some restaurants are markets. IV. Some rooms are restaurants.

(1) Only I and II follow (2) Only II follows(3) Only I, II and III follow (4) Only I and III follow (5) None of thesesolve this here ans is 2 but for the conlusion 3 we take statement 2 and 3 then there will be no conclusion because ofvertical cancellation all+some= no conclusion i want to know that if we take 3 and 2 in order thenby vertical cancellation we will get some+all=some then conclusion 3 would be true? please make it clear.

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No Akanksha you should not change the order like that...You should only 1 to 2 or 2 to 3 or 1 to 3 like this not in any other way if you do so youwill never find correct answer for any syllogism...and for your previous doubt I forgot to remove the above explanation for Autumnproblem which led you into confusion don't let it bother you...When is your test anyway?

Hema Saini June 20, 2015 10:45 p.m.

thanks for your reply mam :)Actualy i forgot to wrote a statement of that question . My exact question was

Statements:All papers are bottles.All bottles are cups.Some cups are jugs.Some jugs are plates.Conclusions:I. Some plates are cups.II. Some plates are bottles.Ill Some cups are papers.IV. Some bottles are papers. -(1) Only III and IV follow(2) Only I and II follow(3) Only I and III follow(4) Only II and IV follow

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Hi Hema,1. Take 3 and 4 statements as they mentioned Plate and CupSome + Some = No answer so it do not follows

2. You have to use 2, 3 and 4 for this butAll + Some also does not give any answer so it is also not true.

3. Take 1 and 2 you get All Papers are Cups => Some cups are papers

4. Convert 1st statement All papers are bottles => Some bottles are papers

So Only 3 and 4 follows

nishant June 26, 2015 3:49 p.m.

Statement: All A are B.Conclusions: I)All A are B is a possibility.II)Some A are B is a possibility.

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Hi Nishant,All A are BConclusion:Some B are Not A is a Possibility


hello mam/sir

my name is niket.my doubt is how to implement your logic in this qstn as i don't know the venn diagram method.soplease explain me with ur logic how to solve this.Here all the 3 names (teacher,professors,lecturer) are used together in conclusion in single statement.

Some teachers are professors.Some lecturers are teachers.

Conclusions:I. All teachers as well as professors beinglecturers is a possibility.II. All those teachers who are lecturers arealso professors.1) if only conclusion I follows.2) if only conclusion II follows.3) if either conclusion I or conclusion II follows.4) if neither conelusion I nor conclusion II follows.5) if both conclusions I and II follow.

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Hi Niket,Lets see conclusion wise

1. From 1st Some teachers are professors there are possibilities that All teachers are professorsAll professors are teachersSimilarly, from 2nd Some lecturers are teachers there is a possibility that All teachers are lecturersSo from All professors are teachers + All teachers are lecturers we get All professors are lecturers.Therefore All teachers and professors are lecturers is a possibility.Note: All this is happened because they mentioned about POSSIBILITY herein 1st conclusion so it follows

2. In 2nd conclusion they didn't gave possibility case so it is not possible to getconclusion that is why it doesn not follow.

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hii mam/siri am Niket.what i understood from your explanation is as follows.if i understood wrong let me know.

1. From 1st Some teachers are professors we can conclude followingAll teachers being professors is a possiblity.All professors being teachers is a possibilitySimilarly, from 2nd Some lecturers are teachers we can conclude followingAll teachers being lecturers is a possibility.All lecturers being teacher is a possibility.So from All professors being teachers is a possibility+ All teachers being lecturers being apossibility we getAll professors being lecturers is a possibility.(All+All=ALL)Therefore All teachers and professors are lecturers is a possibility.

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is there anyone to answer this?if conclucion is in possibility, and both the conclusion follows all the rule of either or,then will it be considered as a 'either or' case or neither 'nor case'?

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Hi,Do you have any example for this???


Statement:- All A are B

Conclusion:-A) Some B are A is a possibility.B) Some B are not A.

Look,Here both the conclusion are wrong,both have same subject and predicate,first one is positive and second one is negative,and of course its not a case of 'All' and 'No' type.

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ANY ANS PLZ


HiI didn't get what you are saying...


StatementAll tea are coffee.some coffee are cold drink.all cold drink are thums up.ConclusionAll coffee are teaSome cold drink cam be thums upAtleast some thumsup are cold drink.

Given answer 1.if only conclusion 1 and 2 or 3 follow2.if only conclsion 1,and 2 follow3.if only conclusion 1 and 3 follow4.if only conclusion 2 and 3 follow5.none of these...

For this the solution is option 5,..but i m getting 4. Pls explain.asap

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Hi,1. All tea are coffee cannot be reversed so it is not follows2. Can be is a possibility case it is also not follows3. All cool drinks are thumps up => some thumps up are cool drinks so it followsOnly 3 follows which is not given here so None of these is correct











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