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    QUESTION ANSWER SESSIONWITH HIS HOLINESS RIAZ AHMED GOHAR

    SHAHI(KARACHI- PAKISTAN)

    AyudBillahi Mina-shaitan Nal-Rajeem.

    I seek refuge and protection in Allah from Satan, the accursed

    Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi.

    In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

    Beloved companions! Thousands of sermons have been

    delivered earlier all around Pakistan, in the city of Karachi, even inforeign countries. Almost everybody might know about these sermons.Some conspirators are doing false propaganda while some arepropagating our message positively. So in my opinion, rather thandelivering another speech its better people may ask questions whichthey have in their hearts. For this I invite audiences to askme freely whatever they have in hearts.

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    Question: While Allah has many names but you only talk aboutzikr (chanting) of the Ism(word) Allah, what is the reason?

    Answer: Allah has 99 names of which 98 are attributes (SifaatiIsam) while one is His personal name. All124,000 prophetshad attributed names of Allah, but they all togetherwere unable to approachto the one (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) whowas having personal name. Attributed names, Suppose you do zikrof Ya-Rehman(O Compassionate), youwould only approach to Hismercy (Rehm), but He is the one who shows mercy even on animals. Ifyou do zikr of Ya-Razzaq (The Ever Providing), you wouldapproach only to His rizq (livelihood)so whats the big deal in it? He isthe One who provides food to an insect in a stone. Once you chantpersonal name of Allah only then you will be able to approach the

    essence of God.Every prophet craved for Personal Name (Isam-e-Zaat) because if vision (of Allah) is possible its only in Isam-e-Zaat (Personal Name) and that is why they failed to have a vision (ofAllah) because they didnt have Isam-e-Zaat. Only ProphetMuhammad (PBUH) was granted Ism-e-Zaat and due to this He (PBUH)had the Vision of God, by His (PBUH) grace that Isam-e-Zaat hasbeen granted to the Ummah which is cause of the greatness of thisUmmah. The only difference is that Isam-e-Zaatcannot bestartedwithout the willingness of Allah had His belovedProphet. So people turn to chanting His attributes. All Sifaati

    Isam (attributed names) are enveloped in Isam-e-Zaat (PersonalName) and this is the reason we emphasize to learn personal name ofAllah (Isam-e-Zaat) bring within you, you feel personal love with Allah,with His personal name. If failed, you may take any of theIsam (attributed names).

    Question: You say that Passionate Love for Allah is betterthan worship while religious scholars incline peopletowardsworship and consider it greater in value. If Lovefor PassionateAllah is greater (than worship) how it can be achieved?

    Answer: Saint Sultan Bahu (RHT) says:

    WhereIshq (passionate love) takes over, faith is not aware.

    (Jithay Ishaq Pohuncha-way, Iman ko bhi Khabar Koi Na)

    People who doworship are far behind, people of faith lead them. So,he (Saint Sultan Bahu) says that even people of faith are unaware that

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    what is Ishq (passionate love)?Love and Ishq (passionate love) aredifferent.

    Now you chant Allahs name, not orally because that even a parrot cando, with your heart, and if your heart start chanting Allahsname, then your connection with Allah is through your heart. Anythingwhich comes in heart, love will happen with it. Similarly, if Allahdescends in heart, love for Him will also emerge. This is love; this isnot Ishq (passionate love). You chant Allahs nameten years, twelveyearsas long as you want and because of thisyou have love forAllah. Even after losing all other loves except this one; but still this islove, not Ishq (passionate love). A day will come then, the one will seeyou whose name you chant. On that very day love will vanish and Ishq(passionate love) will take place. Soif Allah looks at someoneand if

    He looks at that person who worships Him (Allah) and if He (Allah) saysthat you are mine, worship is of what use at this stage? Ishq(passionate love) is not for everyoneits for whom Allah wills tobestow.

    Question: What is your original aim and mission?

    Answer: Some people say whenever the era of politics arrives,that these people will now enter into politics. But we curse such politicsin which you say something in the morning and deny it at night.Neither we like such politics nor it is allowed in Deen (Religion). Somepeople speculate that he isafter Mehdiat and some say he is after

    prophet hood. There will be no prophet after Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) and we consider him infidel whoever claims so. As far asopinion of Mehdiat is concerned, we believe that the one will be Mehdiwhom Allah selects for this honor and any self-declared Mehdi willbe humiliated and many of them have already been humiliated. This isthe secret Ive learnt. Not only me, religious scholars from all over theWorld, say that Mehdi has arrived. And we say thatasProphet Muhammad (PBUH) had a Seal of Prophet hood (Moher-e-Nabuwat) on His back, similarly whoever will have the seal of Mehdiaton His back, we will accept Him as Mehdi. No matter whom he will be!

    Question: You are facing an unrestrained opposition, dont you have

    any fears?Answer: I do not even care. I move everywhere just like everbefore. Reason of that is I dont want money from someone, Allah hasblessed me with so many things, and with landI dont need to bearanybodys opposition. If I do not indulge in politics why should Itolerate anybodys hostility? I want to be in complete silencecompletely separate. Butthere is a heavenly voice which guides me

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    to say this and that. I believe that He who ordered me is dominant overeveryone. Therefore, if nobody can harm me then why should Ibefrightened?

    Question: In recent days there was lot of talk about your meetingwith Prophet Isaa (AS), did you really met Him?

    Answer: Somany people claimed that wemeet Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) why these meetings were notpublicized against them, even though Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) issuperior to Prophet Isaa. Many people said that we also met Allah, whythis was not publicizedagainst them. So, what if I named Prophet Isaa?Definitely a meeting took place, I saw Him apparently but I dont knowwhether He was in His spiritual being or physical I didnt say whetherHe was spiritually or physically. Even I am not sure yetI dont know

    He was in spiritual or physical being. But if I happened to meet Himagain I will definitely check it. They (people) say that He (Prophet Isaa)will descend on Kaba or Bait-ul-Muqadas. But I never said anythingabout His arrival, I only said about meeting Him.

    Question: We have heard that you give Zikr-e-Qalb even to Hindus,Sikhs and Christian, even though they are not Muslims. How is itpossible that thehearts of non-Muslims can chant Allahs name?

    Answer: You tell me, when Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came was thereany Muslim? These were the people at that time, He (PBUH) preached

    to these people. He (PBUH) didnt immediatelyask them to reciteKalima/Motto and offer prayers. First, He glancedon hearts of people,when the name of Allah started within them they obliged to say thereis not god but Allah, Muhammad is His messenger( ).Now we ask everybody, whether a sinner or a rigid infidel, to chantAllahs name by the rhythm of heart beat, this will not happen by ourcommand, this will start by the will of Allah, and the heart after havingAllahs command starts chanting His name. He will become Muslim butnothing else if not today surly tomorrow (it will turn toAllah). Sinner of today will be a pious of tomorrowwouldnt he. So,whomever Allah wills, nobody can stay before him.

    May they be Muslim May they beinfidel, May they bealive May they bedeceased (Chey Muslim Chey Kafir, Che Zinda Che Murda)

    To whom He wishes to, to whom He wishes to make His friend He canmake it and there are so many stories that rigid infidels and dacoitsbecame Wali when He put His glimpse on themyou talk aboutbecoming Muslim, they even became a Wali. No matter they areinfidels or sinners only those very hearts chant Allahs name which will

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    have to become Muslim and it is a recorded fact. Watch that videolast year I gave them Zikr and next year they are reciting Kalima.Actually, this is a method in which neither directly we teach themabout Quran nor about prayers, so we school/teach them about heart.Then, gradually they turn to be vocal from heart.

    Question: You stressed too much on purity of inner self, how canwe clean & purify our inner selves?

    Answer: Inner self is very important. You Place here Hindu, Sikh,Christian Muslim all in a row, ask Allah, "Which of them would you liketo see, which of them you will see?" He will neither look at beards norprostration. Allah looks at shining hearts. We say that if you do nothave a pure inner self, what is the difference between you and him?Only difference is of tongueisnt it? Yes if your inner self is pure, only

    then you are superior to himotherwise your claim is onlyverbal like parrot. Andhow the inner self can be purified? Thereare two kind of worship; one is for apparent purification and theother is for inner purification. Salat/Prayers and fasting cleansthe outer-self/apparent body, it is also necessary; but thatwhich isinside its also necessary to be purified. This is the reason until yourinner-self will not be purified no pure/unpollutedwillstay inside you.You recite Quran day and night, offer prayers but theydont reside within you because your Self is polluted.

    This is the reasonif ever prayer and Quran reside within you then this

    sectarianism is nothing (it will perish). Thenwhy shouldMuslims kill each others? All Momins are brothers; but youare not a Momin. First you become Mominso that all of you canbecome one. And for becoming one your heart was the abode ofAllah its also said according to a Hadith. You didnt chant Allah Allahby heart, thus Satan came and sat in it.Now until and unless you kickthe Satan out, your heart & nafs will never be purified. There is amethod for this. Like there is method for offering prayers andobserving fast, in the similar way there is method for Zikr-e-Qalbi (Heart Meditation). Just like beads of this rosary in your handticks, similarly you also have a rosary within youit also keeps ticking.

    This rosary(in hands) is for ordinary people. Bulleh Shah says:

    Bead of our heart chants Allah Allah You too teach the bead of yourheart to chat Allah Allah

    Asaday dil da manka Allah Allah kardaDil day manky nu Allah Allahsikhana

    That tick tick (heart beat) which is happening is rosary (tasbih) of theheart. It chants Allah Allah more than 6000 times in an hour

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    and cancross125,000 times in 24 hours. So, if a heart whichischanting Allah Allah 24 hours then Satan will not come into thatheart. Then Satan leaves and Rehman (beneficent) will enter. Then,when chanting of Allah Allah starts with the rhythm of heartbeats, heartbeat is associated with blood then Allah Allah will mergeinto blood. Allah Allah then travelling through blood goes into veins,from veins it reaches into your souls. Then the souls wake up and startchanting Allah Allah. Beyond this stage, though you sleep or busy inwork but souls will continue chanting Allah Allah and it will continueafter your death and even until the Day of Judgment.

    Death is for body only, souls do not dieyou were regularin Salat/prayers, your Salat/Prayers will finish after youdie but Salat/prayers of souls will never finish they will continue

    performing prayers until Day of Judgment. They will keep performingwhat you have taught them in this lifetime. And there is a historicalconfirmation for this. When Prophet Muhammad PBUH went onto theheavens before ascending to heavens forMiraj,Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) led all the soulsof previous Prophets and walis in prayer. If you have such a capableenough soul you may also get a chance to participate in that prayer. That prayer had been offered from thousands of years andwill continue till the Day of Judgment.

    Therefore, our aim is to purify the souls and heart within the bodies.When you repeat Allahs name by tongue your inner self should also

    start doing so. You are a fake (from the outside/the body), the Real iswithin you.You emphasis on fakeso much rather than real, which arefor next lifeand wouldnt die. They are reliant on youchant AllahAllah yourself and teach them as well. If you succeed in schoolingthem, believe me, this will be a continuous charity (Sadaqah-e-Jariya)for you until the Day of Judgment.

    Question: Now a day, not only in Pakistan, it is well-known in aboard,and some of my acquaintances living there told me, that Gohar Shahiclaimed to be Mehdi. Today as I got a chance to see youwould youlike to tell regarding this Mehdi matter?

    Answer: I have clarified already that the One who will be Mehdi willshow something extra-ordinaryso much extra-ordinary that nobodyelse would be able to do. Follower of every religion will be boundto accept him. If anybody here in Pakistan claim to be Mehdi butpeople in England, Europe or Palestinerefuse to accept him hewouldnt be consider Mehdi. True Mehdi is the one who will beaccepted by people from every city, every country and everyreligion. As far as our followers are concerned they says, go ask them

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    that why they say so? Whenever I ask them that why they call meMahdi, do you want to involve me in some issue? They answer that wegot guidance from you so you are Mehdi for us. But this is notMehdi He is the one who will be recognized by whole worldand sucha Mehdi will be someone else.

    Question: In so many speeches you talked about Shariat-e-Muhammadiand Shariat-e-Ahmedi. Please shed some light that who are thosepeople who are blessed with this?

    Answer: About Shariat-e-Muhammadi, the nameof Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)s body was Muhammad while His soul iscalled Ahmed. Name of HisSpiritual body which is in the centreofchest (The deeply hidden) was Hamid while name of His spiritual

    entityAna ( ) in His head was Mahmood. Now, Shariat-e-Muhammadi

    are acts which Hisbody did while acts which His soul accomplished, iscalled Shariat-e-Ahmadi. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) went on Mirajwith His physical body once while He visited with His souls manytimesthis is Shariat-e-Ahmadi. His soul used to offer prayers evenbefore coming to this World. That is the reason why He said that I wasa prophet prior to descending to this World. He said that I was aprophet even when Adam wasnt created. He(Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)) was given a bodily appearance later onprior to this He was a prophet and what He did in this capacity isShariat-e-Ahmadi. Still His soul leads the prayer and doesnt rise upfrom the prostration until Allah respondsI am here O servant (LabaikYa Abdi). If your soul becomes capable for this you can also achieveShariat-e-Ahmadi.

    Question: It is said that you say that there are 40 Chapters of Quranrather than 30?Answer: In Shariat-e-Muhammadi Quran is of 30 Chapters. One isShariat-e-Ahmadi that knowledge is something else. Abu Huraira (RA)said to Companions about this that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) passedon two types of knowledge to me. I told you about one, if ever Itell anything about the second you would kill me. This is an authenticHadith. Then what was that second knowledge? It was knowledge of

    souls. Let me explain it further. This body is made of clay you haveto accept this; this body will die, will remain in this world, perish andwouldnt go to hereafter. We will be given such a body in the nextlife that will neither burn nor die, become neither older norsick. If this body is limited to this world then it will not travel to thenext. So, what about its accountability, its journey? Isnt it point toponder? This is like a house with seven residents. One of the residentsis Self/Nafs, it is called Latifa-e-Nafs and Quran is revealed for the

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    people with these self/Nafs. At several places in the Quran it is said topurify the Self and correct itsometimes it is threatened, sometimesavarice, sometimes it is warned of Hell and sometimes it is motivatedby Paradiseisnt it so? But this is only for Self, what is next when it iscleaned/purified? When a Self is cleaned/purified knowledge of InnerSelf/hidden knowledge start. Then first knowledge is of Heart. Afterpurification of the Self at that stage that Book in which there is nodoubt (Zaalik-al-Kitab-u- La Rai-ba) not this book.that book in whichthere is no doubt. On this book even a Hindu and infidel cast doubtsabout itdont they distrust this Quran? On that book even an infidelwill not distrust.Ifan infidel purifies his Self even he wouldnt distrustthat Book. At this step, it (Quran) has 30 existing parts and 10others. There is a knowledge related to Qalb (Heart).Prophethood ofHeartwas bestowed upon Adam (AS). It was distributed evenlybetween Him and His Walis. Beyond this stage is Soul (Rooh) and itsBook; it has separate chapters. Ibrahim (AS) was superior to Adam (AS)due to additionof soul. Next was Musa (AS) and he was bestowed by3 parts (Qlab, Rooh and sirri)half for Him and half for His Walisthatis why He was superiorto Ibrahim (AS). Then came Issa (AS) got 4half for himself and half for His Walisand placed higher than Musa(AS). Finally, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) received all 5 knowledgesknowledge of the including Spiritual entity Akhffa that is why He isgreatest/superior of all. Therefore, one is Self and 5 are these spiritualbodies. All together are 6 included in the knowledge. Knowledge of theSelf is in 30 parts while knowledge of remaining 5 is divided into10 parts. Beyond this stage comes Ana ( ) which is seventh spiritualbody and is not related to knowledge but with passionate love. Go andseek a spiritual teacher so that you will be able to pick this point thatthere is apparent knowledge and hidden knowledge. We say that 30parts are apparent while 10 are hidden, and there is evidence ofit.It can be verified from the books of Walis but Ulema disregardit.Disregard this knowledge and at the same time quote this event ofShah Shams Tabriz;When he put the books, and was asked, What isthis? He said, This is that knowledge which you dont know. Whenhe took them out and was asked, What is this? This is that knowledge

    which you dont know!He was unaware of one kind of knowledge andhe said that this is the knowledge about which you do not know. This

    was the reason If only Quran was enough then even Ghaus Pak(AbdulQadir Jalani) read the Quran, Khawaja Sahib also recited Qurantheywhy they went into the jungles for which knowledge? Actually therewas found another kind of knowledge in Jungles. Here the knowledge istaught by Maulvi(Scholar) andthere Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) becomes their teacher. Then there

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    will be obvious difference between the teaching of Prophet MuhammadPBUH and Maulvi(Scholar). Here one can become Alim or Scholar ofAhadith while there one can be a Wali, sultan.

    Question: I read one of your sayings on several sign boards that visionof Allah is possible. Give some arguments?

    Answer: Imam Abu-Hanifa wrote in his book that he had vision of Allah99 times. Ibrahim bin Adham says that he had vision of Allah 70 times.While Sakhi Sultan Bahu says that we can have vision of Allahwhenever we wish. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is a unique personalityamong all. All others had vision through their soulswhile Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) saw Allah through His body. There isalso a term Wali Allahit means Friend of Allah. Friend is the onewhom we saw, or to whom we have talkedif anybody neither saw nortalked to Allah and claim to be his friendisnt he a liar. If only falseclaimant of Prophethood is an infidel for you than what you would calla false claimant of Wilaya? He is on the brink of infidelity. Wilayarequires a vision and revelation. The only difference is that woman canonly have revelation; they cant have visionthat is why they are halfwali, as is Rabia Basri who was entitled as Half Qalandar. Other walishave visions, conversation and if anybody claims to be a waliwithout this, he is a liar.

    Question: Your devotees call you Allah! What is the reality?

    Answer: The reality is that many of non-devotees call me Satanmany

    of them call me apostate, many call me as infidelwhile other call meMehdi.many of them call me Isaa. It is based on how strong belief aperson has on me. You should ask them, I cant say anything. I am aMuslim, act according to the Quran, and it is written in it that say thatAllah is one, He didnt gave birth to anybody. On the other hand I haveparents and sons. If they gave me titles, you must ask them, issuefatwa against them.

    Question: If a person dies shortly after having Zikr-e-Qalb from you,then what about his remaining stages?

    Answer: The first thing is that Zikr-e-Qalb can never be started at a

    person's own will. We are only agents, the informers. We onlyattach (spiritually guide) those with who are chosen by God. As longas Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) does not verify, Allah neverapproves. So, whoever has approval of heart (from the Prophet) hisdeath or life becomes meaningless and his journey of stages continues.Because death is only for body, his inner self is alive. Such people havethe record like Shah Abdul Latif Bhitaipeople used to call him sufipoet, nobody got any benevolence from his Tomb but he continue his

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    meditation. His journey was on. As soon as his innerjourney completed,people started receiving blessings from his tomb.So stages of such people continue to accomplish.

    Question: What is your opinion about photography is it not forbidden?

    Answer: Some people regard it as forbidden while some see noproblem in it. Few Walis (Saints) even confused us. Where Allah hasconfused then confusion from Walis doesnt matter. Ala Hazart wroteat one place that images are forbidden. But in his own era images ofPeer Mehar Ali Shah were widespread, why didnt declare themforbidden as well?Ala Hazart wrote in his Kinz-al-Iman that images ofall Prophets are in Taboot-e-Sakinawhat should I say here? Now it isup to youconsider it forbidden or not!

    Question: If Imam Mehdi and Hazrat Issa (Prophet Jesus) have arrivedthen why dont you show them to the people?

    Answer: People will see. I already mentioned their signs.

    Question: If a zakir concentrate on his heart after zikr and see Noor inplace of heart, Kaba enveloped in this Noor and see inner creaturecircumambulating the Kaba and within this condition, see Kalimawritten in golden color on his heart and shining, would this stage becalled Ayn Al-Yaqeen (The eye of certainty)?Answer: This is not Ayn Al-Yaqeen(The eye of certainty), but Haq Al-

    Yaqeen(The truth of certainty). Because delusion do not happenin Kalima, if there is Kalima, this Kalima is truebut if there is noKalima at all, it is Ayn Al-Yaqeen. If (you have) Kalima in heart it istruth. Once Mujadid Alif Sani saw hidden creatures bowing down beforehim in his experience, he was fretted and thought that this is notpermitted. But a heavenly voice consoled him that he may not worrybecause these creatures are not bowing down before him rather theyare doing Sajda prostrating to the Kaba which is within him(Mujadid). It happens to whom Allah wills (This is not strange).Question: Earlier you people preached about chanting Allahs name.

    You point of preaching was Zikr-e-Qalb. Then you turned to spirituality,for some time you are propagating about Imam Mehdi, what is yournext objective? What you want? Are you intended to enter in politics?Answer: Ive already given a detailed answer about this.Question: What is Unity of Being (Wahadat-al-Wujud) and Unity ofAppearance (Wahadat-al-Shuhud)?

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    Answer: Nobody for Unity of Being present here. What should I tell?Proponent of Unity of Being says that Allah is present in everything. Heclaims that Allah is in every heart. While advocate for Unity ofAppearance holds that if Allah is in every heart then infidel arealso included in it. If so, whats the purpose of Hell? If Allah is ineverything then Hell is for whom? Whoever has Noor of Allah will nevergo to Hell! Supporters Unity of Being is those who chanted OCompassionate (Ya-Rahman)they always used to recite OCompassionate or O The Most Loving (Ya-Wadood). With chanting ORahman they attained attributed Noor of Rahman within their heart they witnessed with their own eyes. They saw that a glimpse ofRahman is also visible in animals, which is why animals love theirchildren. They said Allah is in everything. What about supporters ofUnity of Appearance? They recited Isam-e-Zaat, chanted AllahAllah and by chanting this Noor of Allah came into their hearts. Whensaw through the Noor of Allah they witnessed that the World barely hasany Noor, this Noor is only within few hearts. This is the difference inopinion between proponents of Unity of Being and Unity of Appearanceand we are supporters of Unity of Appearance. The one who has Noorof Allah within him that is Unity of Appearance and the one who isdeprived of it belongs to Unity of Being. Practitioner of Unity of Beingon his ascending journey halted at a stagehe couldnt tread furtherand said he only see a light was not able to see any body of Allah.The one of Unity of Appearance had Ism-a-Zaat so he reached to theZaat (Personality). Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)shook hands with Him,so he verified the Hadith that Allah has created Man on His own image.So this is the clash between Unity of Being and Unity of Appearance.Question: You had been held responsible for the death of a women ofKarachi at your monastery, is it true?Answer: The first thing is that she came to my monasteryand lots ofpeople visit us on regular basis. She was not accompanied withanyone. Her son dropped her so she was alone. If we could kill her, we

    could also bury her somewhere. We have our own land and vehicles,we could have buried her somewhere or just throw her deadbody away. Why should we call her relatives and handover her tothem? There are some political people and some government agencieswho planned all this. Right now as there is negative propaganda, soonthere will be positive propaganda. This matter has been investigatedby crime branch. Then they say: we read in newspapers that she sawsomething wrong happening that is why she was murdered. Brothers

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    if she was alone and saw something wrong then did she tell others intheir dreams? Told that I saw something wrong and got murdered?These newspaper people just dont feel ashamed. It reveals their liedid she tell them in dream?Question: There is lot of talk about Imam Mehdi (AS) and Prophet Isaa(AS), where is Dajjal? Tell something about him.Answer: If I tell you now that Dajjal is that particular place, believeme! A battle will break out immediately. Just wait for the appropriatetime. Whatever will be from Allah would be better. Dajjal is not far, heis also near to Pakistan.Question: You disclosed the mystery of Alif Laam Meem. Quran alsohave other Huroof-e-Muqattaat, such as Alif Laam Raa, what is itssecret?Answer: We cant disclose right now.Question: It is said about Sultan-al-Fuqra that either we call them Godor man, both are fine. How is it possible that a man can become God?Answer: Actually the thing is that man has 7 spiritual entities (Lataif)within himself which is for sure. If he becomes Wali through thoseentities he couldnt be called God. Allah bestows some Walis withexclusive Anwaar which is called Jussa Taufiq-e-Elahi. While blessedsome people with Tifal-e-Noori. After this, apparently that person is nothuman, and then He is Allah. For these kind of people Allah says thathe comes so much close to Me due to prayers that I become his handby which he holds, I become his tongue by which he speaks. This isfor those people. And there are some special people! Once Allahthought to see that how does He look like? Just like you think to seeyourself in front of a mirror, how I am looking?Similarly Allah thought,how I look like?So a reflection appeared before Him and it turned intoa soul. Allah fell in love with it and it fell in love with Allah. It was soul

    of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Then Allah shudder Himself again withjoy and seven more souls created. These were souls of Sultans. Whenthese souls descended on earth Sakhi Sultan Bahu saidif you callthem God, it is not wrong. These are the very souls! You can studySultan Bahus booklet Roohi Sharif for further satisfaction.

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    Question: Beg your pardon! Arab world is full with sins and you wenteverywhere to invite for Zikr-e-Qalb. Why dont you invite them forzikr-e-qalb?Answer: We go everywhereto spread this message, also went to Arabsbut Allah Allah only starts in heart for whom Allah wills. If He doesntwant for any heart we revert to them. Those who are chosenby Allahs will, we get encouragement and go again and again to them.Question: Some people challenge us to throw ourselves into fire if weare right. Should we do so or not? (Question by Zakir)Answer: No! Deal with me only. Gather all the opponents and take meto them. Look all are my opponents; they have nothing to do withyou. Gather all of them and throw them and me into fire. Lets see whocomes out unharmed. Bring all themaulvis (Scholars) who issued fatwa (verdicts) against uslit a fire andthrow them into fire put and me also.Question: I start with a question which is has not been asked in thisgathering so far. It is related to your image on the moon. It is quitefamous and we heard from so many people. As we are looking youtoday, definitely your looks evolved with the passage of time and it willcontinue to change. But moon is the same forever. But you claim thatit has your image in it. But this image is since the beginning and will beuntil the last day. So, what is the truth of this claim? It is true that themoon will remain as it is from day first to the last.Answer: I know that when the image appeared in it and how long it willremain. Earlier people started to say that an image is visible in themoon, and then I saw it. If ever this proved to be wrong my twentyyears of preaching would have been fruitless. Then I gave mine andthat image to be checked by computer, in the UK, in US. They allverified and then I announced that this is my image. Why it is here andwho placed itI have no knowledge. But I can assure this is mine. For

    this, Moon appears every month and now its also there. Take mypicture and the picture of moon as well, you may verify. If you find itfalse then question me. If it is true than just acknowledge itsexistenceand if not there thentrap us in it. I asked the governmentmany times to recognize it. I said that if it is false than its a greatscam and lie and why dont you arrest me? And if it is true,acknowledge it and tell people the truth. You have resources and thismatter is not new, for last 5, 6 years it has been hearing about this

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    matter. So many fingers have been pointing on us for this reason,cases have been launchedand people are labeling accusations on us. Ifit would have been proven false, would these maulvis (Scholars)spare us? Earlier they did not acknowledge and said this cannothappen; now they recognize but say that this is not a proof of Wilaya.Now they acknowledge and we are also waiting that someone comesforward and investigate. If it is false give me any punishment you likeand if true acknowledge itdont show hypocrisy. Governmentagencies may also present here and we conveyed our messagethrough every means. Through newspapers, through speeches andtoday again I am asking the government to investigate.Question: It is said that your workers of Anjuman Sarfroshan-e-Islamneed your permission to offer their prayers; if you permit they offerotherwise they dont. This is a matter between Allah and His servant,so up till what extend it is right to take yourpermission for obligatory prayers?Answer: I never asked this to anybody. However I ask them to offerprayers and do the zikr because it will raise your status. If you offerregular prayers you will just be namazi for your lifetime and if onlydo Zikr and do not offer prayer then you will remain Zakir forlifetime. The Wilaya (Sainthood) will begin with composition of both.We advise them again and again. And refuter of prayer is infidelnear us.Question: Now when I arrived here I noticed that music is being playedhere. Secondly, the word O (Ya) is written with your name. Accordingto my knowledge and understanding word O can only be used forAllah and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), though this is also wrong. Butwhy this word is being used with your nameif it is not with Umar(RA), Ali (RA), Usman (RA) and Farooq (RA)! Why this is so?Answer: Listen to me! It is with everyones nameO Ali, O Ghaus Al-Madad. People call their peer/murshid with O(YA). And it is their

    belief. There is nothing wrong with using O, it doesnt imply infidelity.Thats all.

    Question: During meeting with Allah, Prophets (PBUH)saw the ringwhich He previously gave to Hazart Ali. What is that mystery?

    Answer: This is true. When I say such things people blame me that Iam favoring the Shias. But true always remains true (you cannot deny

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    it). This was in our Ahadithit was in Hadith-e-Muslim, Hadith-e-Bukhari. Before it was Hadith-e-Muslim, Hadith-e-Bukhari but whenthey refined and corrected the collection of Ahadith as Hadith-e-SahihMuslim, Hadith-e-Sahi Bukharithey removed such traditions It wassosurely it was. There were traditions regarding this.

    Question: What kind of battle will break out between Imam Mehdi andDajjal?

    Answer: Only he can tell when the time will come! How can I sayanything?

    Question: Who is at the seat of Qutab Madaar?

    Answer: If ever anybody knows about Qutab Madaar his Wilaya will belost. We can only tell about Ghaus and he is in Ghamkol Sharif

    in Pakistan, Ghamkol Sharif, Kohat.Question: Sarkar you said in the program at Nishtar Park that image ofImam Mehdi has been shown to all Walis. Would you please tell somenames so that we may have company of them for some time?

    Answer: Go thereGhamkol Sharif. People in Europe may contact toShaikh Nazim and people in the US may go to Shaikh Hisham. Thesepersons know.

    Question:Those 40 chapters are also written like Quran? Did you readthem? If yes, why dont you dictateso that we can write them down?

    Answers; Just as Torait, Zaboor and Injeel had been revealed in thelanguage of its Prophet, similarly are these 30 Paras. That knowledge isin Suryani language. Prophets and walis are taught that knowledge inthe language they know. Quran is latest of them allfirst Torait wasrevealed then Zaboor and then Injeel. The knowledge Adam had was inSuryani language. The knowledge of the inner self is in Suryanilanguage and still exists. Wali is taught that knowledge in his ownlanguage, the tafseer (datail)of that knowledge is taught to him. If heis taught in Suryani than first he will need to learn Suryani and thentasfeerafter that he wil have tol teach Suryani to others. That is whyhe is taught in his languagethat is tafseerthis is their knowledge!Khizarthere is a story about him in the Quranthe knowledgeMusa (AS) had was different from theknowledge which Khizar had. Andany knowledge which came from from Allah, if it came throughrevelation, it is considered Hadith-e-Qudasi. If Jibra-il accompanied therevelation it is called Quran. This knowledge also came throughrevelation accompanied Jibra-il/Gabriel thus it is also called Quran.

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    Question: Some people say that the name of Imam Mehdis father willbe Abdullah and mothers Amina. And hell stammer. Is it true?

    Answer: When hell come, ask him what his fathers name is? As soonas he comes, he will declare that Im Imam Mahdi. Ask everything fromHim. Why from me? Ask him whatever comes to your mind; after all,Ive not announced any thing.

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    Now, let me tell you about Zikr. Some people will be new; though somepeople are Muslims, yet dont offer their prayers, even dont do zikr

    (chanting name of God). Those people are like animals. Animals snoozeafter performing assigned acts. They slept, too, after doing worldlyjobs. There are some people though offer their prayers, yet dont zikr(chanting name of God); and there are some who zikr (chanting nameof God) but dont offer Salat/prayers. But the people who do zikr(chanting name of God) are better than pervious condition whenthey dont do anything at all. Blessed are they, they have startedmaking mention; though not offer their prayers. But they arebetter than their previous condition. By doing this, their hearts will befilled with Allahs love; and this Love will become be a source of theirintercession. And it may happen that due to this commemoration, theywill start offering prayers; this way their heart will be decontaminated,and tongue purified. That prayer/Salat will be real Salat/prayer; for

    this it needs neither Bait nor Gift and oblations to be paid.Were notconcerned whose disciples you are; we wish that instead this outerrosary, your inner should start counting the true rosary. As this tick,tick is continuing outside; the same is happening inside. As soon as,this Tick, Tick starts resonating Allah, Allah; then this Allah, Allah willbe penetrated deep into your blood. Traveling from blood to veins andthen from veins to your souls --- your Souls will awake up and start

    chanting Allah, Allah, too.Now when youoffer the prayer, there is a

    contradiction whatever is in your heart and what is ontongue; what

    appears on tongue, is not in the heart; and what is in the heart,does not come on the tongue. Once, Hazrat Abubaker Siddique (RA)asked The Holy Prophet (PBUH), Whenever I offer my prayers, I feeltemptations. The Holy Prophet (PBUH) said, You are getting twotypes of Reward; one for offering prayers and the other for Jihad. Howis that? During chanting of Allah, Allah within you; the devil puttemptations in your heart; this Allah, Allah throws them out.

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    Temptations come again; again this Allah, Allah throws them out;this way a battle starts inside. This is called Jihad. If therell be noAllah inside, these temptations dwell permanently. This means, your

    heart will get along with the devil.This is called Namaz Surat there isno trust of hollow prayers; and these prayers will be thrown back toyour face in the Day of Judgment. When Allah, Allah will be starteddeep in your heart; then, even you will be busy in your work, you willtry to continue chanting this Allah, Allah. You will be succeeded thisway. Youll try again that I should keep on reading a book or amagazine or even driving a car and this Allah, Allah should alsocontinue. You will get the success. Then, you will wish that I shouldcontinue my prayer/salat --- and this Allah, Allah should also be

    continued. That time, the heartwill say what your tongue is saying.

    The tongue will say, QUL HO WALLA HO AAHAD (Allah is Alone); theheart will witness saying Allah, Allah. The Allah and only Allah. . Now,all the temptations have been thrown out. Verbal worship does not goup to Allah. This heart is like a telephone within you. This heart is atelephone between you and Allah. The Satan is setting in it; then howyour prayer should go up? When Allah, Allah comes in heart, the

    Satanwill leave. It will be filled with Divine Light; as there is electricityin the telephone then it starts working, if therell be Divine Light in theheart; it will work. As with the waves of electricity you talk from hereto America; the Divine Light in heart connects you with the Throne ofGod. That time when you offer your prayer, the telephone of Divine

    Light will take it up. That prayer is The Ladder of a Believer. As youtalk, it will go up. Why do people visit saints? They could beseech athome. The same Allah is there at saints places. Telephonesare installed there when they talk it go up; and this way, yourebestowed --- your work is gets done. So you can also install thistelephone as it is for all. The people who had such telephones in theirhearts, they never call themselves to be a Sunni, Wahabbi, or Shia.They only say I am your follower OProphet Muhammad PBUH. Whenthis telephone the Divine Light went away, 72 sects came intoexistence. Now government says sects should be wiped out. How it canbe finished? Satans are penetrated deep in the hearts. Apparently,

    they have long beards and big Mehraab(sign of prayers on forehead);but Satan in hearts. Satan does not let then get united. He makes

    husband and wife and Molvi (Scholar) with Molvi (Scholar)quarrel, fornothing. Until Satan will not exit from your heart, and the Satan willleave when the Divine Light will come in your heart. Whenyour hearts are filled with this Light, youll all become Momin (one whocontain noor). Noori relationships will be established, as there areblood relationships of brother and sister. Thereafter it will become

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    noori relation. That time you will become brothers; before thisyou cannot become brothers. When this Allah, Allah starts in the heart,then whatever comes in your heart, love happens with that thing.When Allah comes in your heart, love with Allah will start.When love of Allah will come in your heart, then Allah will love you; andwhom Allah loves, cares them. Then they do not get betray; and thoseare the people whom Allah wants to keep on the right path. Now, ifsomeone wants to get permission for commemoration; say Allah Allahwith my voice, the permission will be granted. Carry on practice, ifAllah, Allah starts in your heart, pray for me; if do not feel so, you goyour way we go ours. There is another method, when you go to sleepat night; think your finger a pen and write the word Allah on your heartin imagination. While writing call for your Spiritual Guide and imagineas he is holding your finger and writing Allah on your heart with yourfinger. They have immense spiritual powers. If you do not have anySpiritual Guide, think of any tomb you are familiar with, and imaginethat that pious man is writing Allah on your heart. They do so. Even ifyou do not go in any tomb, then think of the Roza Mubarak Tomb of The Holy Prophet (PBUH), and from that place word Allah is

    beingwritten on your heart. At that moment whoever comes infront ofyou; consider that your destiny is in His hands. Go to sleepwhile reciting and writing this. When you get up at the crack of dawndont bother whether you are with ablutions or not; the ablution of

    heartcannot be performed with water. Keep doing hidden

    chanting; hidden chantingevery one can do as it is not a big deal. Of

    and on, feel and keep your hand on your heart beats; when you

    feelyour heart beats, try to chant Allah with it. And the day when yourheart beat call Allah; consider that Allah has accepted you today. Thendo any such act which makes your heart beat fast whether it is anexercise or fast running; when your heartbeat becomeprominent, match Allah Allah with it. If you continue this practice forfew days, your heartbeats will be changed into Allah Allah. Sometimeswhile you are sitting free; feel your pulse and synchronize the wordAllah, Allah with this tick, tick and feel that Allah is penetrating intoyour heart. God helps those who help themselves. And whom Allah

    wishes, a small act of virtue is enough for him. And whom Allah doesnot wish to bestow; he will say that 10 even 20 years gone, my heartmeditation (Zikr-e-qalb) did not start. It is the secret of knowingoneself. That who are you? How much Allah is kind to you? This is theonly touchstone; except this, there is no any other touchstone. If youfeel warmth with this commemoration, start reciting DaroodSharif benediction; it will cool it down. Then youll see that when youchant Allah, Allah it will bring warmth to you; then the reciting of

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    Darood Sharif will make it cool. One day, both Darood sharif andAllah will be intermingled, neither cold nor warmth. After this yourheart says Allah, Allah and if you still keep on doing evil deeds, thenhurdles will come into the way of your vehicle. With this if you do gooddeeds --- offer prayers and keep fasts; then your vehicle will reach fastto Allah. Allah!

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