strategies for a flat yield curve island time version
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Strategies for a flat yield curveIsland time version
August 2018
Charles N. McQueen
• Founder of McQueen Financial• SEC Registered Investment Advisor• Asset Liability Management• Valuations & Consulting
The Presenter
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The Boss
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• Interest Rates - Beaver Island • Deposits - Mackinac Island• Liquidity - Put-in-Bay• CECL - Duck Island• Balance Sheet Management
Island Time Strategies for a Flat Yield Curve
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How do you think about “Banking”?:
Big Picture Thinking
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Is this your lobby?
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Or this?
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Who Should I Market to?
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What ages do you focus on? Do you focus?
Who Should I Market to?
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57%
Current Interest Rates & a few Projections
McQueen Financial Advisors
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Beaver Island
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Beaver Island
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• The only Monarchy inside of the USA.
• James Jesse Strang became the King in 1850.
• He was shot and killed by his followers in 1856.
• The island was originally a fishing and trading village with its natural port.
• It is now a tourist destination.• It has a strong Irish population.
Interest Rates
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Source: Bloomberg
Interest Rates
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Interest Rates
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Inflation
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Wage Based Inflation
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Stock Market
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Home Prices
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Quantitative Easing Portfolio Size:• $ 4.5 Trillion
Monthly Maturities:• Nearly $50 billion
Monthly Purchases:• $10 billion
FOMC Open Market Activities
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Contracting by maturities not being reinvested. Nothing is being sold.
Debt
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• April 2018 – Largest Government surplus ever of $214 billion• GDP Growth is key
Interest Rates
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2018 Thoughts:• Charley boat index• Commercial loan index• Brew pub funding• Home prices• Ted’s pool index
MFA Interest Rate Outlook
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2008 Prediction:• Low interest rates for 10 years:2018 Prediction:• Relatively low interest rates • Slowly increasing Fed Funds rate towards 3.00%• Slowly increasing 10 year US Treasury towards 4%• Black Swan Events• Uncertainty
MFA Interest Rate Outlook
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Deposits
Mackinac Island
McQueen Financial Advisors
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Mackinac Island
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Mackinac Island
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• In 1780 the island was selected as the site for the fort by English Major Patrick Sinclair.
• In the war of 1812 the island was invaded by the British and the Americans surrendered.
• In 1946 the movie This time for Keeps was filmed.
• In 1979 the movie Somewhere in Time was filmed.
Deposits & Cost
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• Deposit Growth has Stopped
• Non-Maturity Deposits• Yields up• Deposit betas of 80% Plus in Q2 2018
• Certificates of Deposit• Yields up
• The savings rate has declined to 2.50% • The last time we were here was in July of 2005
Savings Rate
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2005 – 2011 Liabilities & Cost
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2011 – 2018 Liabilities & Cost
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Deposits & Cost
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• Disintermediation• Money market accounts have grown• Under 10% of deposits are in CD’s now
(Average)
• Deposit Generation• CD’s• Brokered CD’s• FHLB advances• Branded products
Deposit Costs
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• Where are costs today?
BrokeredCD FHLB CD________
1 year 1.79 2.77 2.703 year 2.34 2.97 3.155 year 2.71 3.11 3.407 year n/a 3.35 3.60
Old School Deposit Generation
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• This will be a major differentiating factor for your success compared to peer.
• How do you do it?• Consistent• Ask for the business• Require the deposits• Compensate employees for deposits• Limit indirect lending• Limit participations
New School Deposit Generation
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• Solutions for sale
• Have you tried?• Kasassa• New higher yield accounts• Money market aggregators• Brokered CD’s
Deposit Generation
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• A focus, commitment and success of core deposit generation will be the key to success over the next five years.
McQueen Financial Advisors
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Liquidity
South Bass Island
South Bass Island
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South Bass Island
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• It is called the “Key West of Lake Erie”.
• The Victory Hotel had 625 rooms and was the largest hotel in America.
• The island is home to nearly 40 bars and restaurants.
• Lots of “liquidity”
Liquidity
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• People are spending money: – Restaurants are full– Lots of new toys– Lending is increasing
• People are not saving money
Liquidity
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The last Fed tightening cycle resulted in a 3.50% increase in the cost of funds.
• In 2007, after three years of a rising interest rate environment, a 6-month Certificate of Deposit yielded 5.30%. The yield had increased 3.50%.
• Today, after two and one-half years of interest rates rising a 6- month Certificate of Deposit yields 1.45%. This is so far only up 1.00% from 0.45%.
As the economy expands, we expect scarcity of deposits to continue to push deposit rates higher.
Liquidity
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• Sources– Cash– Investments– Loan sales– Brokered deposits– Overnight borrowings availability– Term Borrowings availability
Liquidity
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• Rising rates = Higher cost of funds• Customers (members) do not use CD’s any
more.• With out CD’s (all else being equal) interest
rate risk increases
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Home Values
• Volume of new homes is still low• Dollars spent is way up• Value of houses is up
Liquidity
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• Home values are significantly up• Lots of mortgages to pledge • A strong liquidity option is FHLB advances
FHLB Advances for Liquidity
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• Fixed advances give you a known interest cost• Advances where you have the right to keep
them or cancel them are to your advantage• If interest rates rise – hold them• If interest rates fall – turn them in
Callable Advances
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• Additional cost of 30 Basis points on a 7 year advance− 7 year bullet = 3.35%− 7 year callable by you =3.65%
• 7 year brokered CD = 3.60%
Liquidity
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• Major exam focus
• What should you do?– Monthly liquidity forecasting (spreadsheet)– Quarterly liquidity testing– Grow your available borrowings
Liquidity
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• Ahead of the curve, behind or just right?– Raise rates now– Later– Ignore it?
• Banks in the news– Comerica– Bank of the Ozarks
Why? 80% deposit betas in Q2 2018
McQueen Financial Advisors
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CECL
Duck Island
Duck Island
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Duck Island
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• It is an uninhabited island.• It is in lake Huron.• I (Google) does not know much
about it.• Not my idea of a fun island.
CECL
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• CECL - Current Expected Credit Losses− Implementation is delayed
• CECL – Dates:− PBE = 12/31/20− Non PBE = 12/31/22
CECL
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• CECL – Current Expected Credit Losses− Build Equity− Net Income
• CECL – What is it….− Lifetime losses on a loan booked upfront− On going – tough on income− Implementation – tough on equity
CECL
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• CECL - Costs− Good economy = current ALLL− Bad economy = 3 times ALLL
• CECL - Effect− One time hit to equity− Potentially spread out over 3 years
CECL
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• CECL− Understand the theory− Know your solution (how your bank is
going to do CECL)− Loan product profitability
Balance Sheet Management
McQueen Financial Advisors
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Net Interest Margin & More
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Balance Sheet Management
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• Non-Interest Income Sources− Mortgage sales− Insurance − Trust
Balance Sheet Management
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Strategies for a flat yield curve:
• Loans− Good loan mix− Correct loan to deposit ratio− Plan for credit losses increasing− Understand your loan profitability
Balance Sheet Management
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Strategies for a flat yield curve:
• Investments− Correct duration− Staying fully invested− Corporate bonds− Taxable municipal bonds
• Municipal & corporate credit reviews
Balance Sheet Management
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Strategies for a flat yield curve:
• Deposits− Deposit generation− Deposit cost control− Marking done right− Core competency
• Callable FHLB advances
• Interest Rates - Beaver Island • Deposit Generation - Mackinac Island• Liquidity - Put-in-Bay• CECL - Duck Island• Balance Sheet Management
Islands Style Strategies
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Questions
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