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05-07-2011, 05:51 PM

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Through my experiences of who I am not. I had internal dialogue. Don't get me wrong, all myvoice. But I figured out how to stop it. You experience who you are not when happening. You canthen create more of who you are not by thinking intentionally, to become who you are. Internal

dialogue is thought turned into word faster than you can think. To stop unwanted internal dialogueyou can think of more thoughts. Thoughts that don't turn into words. Internal dialogue will stop.Bringing you more thoughts than words. Then you can feel more at ease and tension can go away.

Then you can feel more at ease to go back to who you are, inside. Or you can use the illusion of ignorance to solve it. Ignoring it. Or keep yourself occupied on one task at a time. When you

observe your thoughts, you get to the fundamental core of your "issues." So if anyone out theredeals with any internal dialogue that occurs at an unconscious level, then that is how you can getrid of it. I 've cured myself by doing this. Sometimes just surrendering to what is, will not get rid of

it. It's the thought process that should change. You can surrender to what is and feel peace, with itstill going on internally. It won't bother you if you surrender and accept the present moment.

06-07-2011, 05:04 AM

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Trying to stop internal dialogue is like trying to put wind in a box.

Instead, simply shift your awareness into the silent open space within.

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06-07-2011, 05:13 AM

Topology MasterJoin Date: Jun 2011Location: Lubbock, TexasPosts: 1,787

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Originally Posted by moke64916

Through my experiences of who I am not. I had internal dialogue. Don't get me wrong, all my voice. But I figured out how to stop it. You experience who you are not when

happening. You can then create more of who you are not by thinking intentionally, tobecome who you are. Internal dialogue is thought turned into word faster than you can

think. To stop unwanted internal dialogue you can think of more thoughts. Thoughts that don't turn into words. Internal dialogue will stop. Bringing you more thoughts than words.Then you can feel more at ease and tension can go away. Then you can feel more at easeto go back to who you are, inside. Or you can use the illusion of ignorance to solve it.

Ignoring it. Or keep yourself occupied on one task at a time. When you observe your thoughts, you get to the fundamental core of your "issues." So if anyone out there dealswith any internal dialogue that occurs at an unconscious level, then that is how you can get

rid of it. I've cured myself by doing this. Sometimes just surrendering to what is, will not get rid of it. It's the thought process that should change. You can surrender to what is and

feel peace, with it still going on internally. It won't bother you if you surrender and accept the present moment.

I suppose with less internal dialogue there is more room for monologue? :)

06-07-2011, 12:28 PM

Medium_Laura SuspendedMasterJoin Date: Jan 2011Location: Richmond VAPosts: 3,143

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Trying to stop internal dialogue is like trying to put wind in a box.


Xan

HA! I love that Xan! SOOOO true!

06-07-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by XanTrying to stop internal dialogue is like trying to put wind in a box.


Xan

Xan that works as well. There are a lot of different techniques into stopping internal dialogue. Yourway works as well too. Just using the 10th illusion of ignorance works too. To simply stay present

and ignore it. It's the "though process" that should be changed. This is just one technique on howto do it, and it works as well. Another way would be to focus your attention inside your body, but

they key is to not create disunity between mind, body, spirit. Observing your thoughts gets to thecore of the issue. It can manifest with just one thought that triggers a stream of thoughts intowords. My thinking thoughts, you are changing your thought process as well. You will receive

more thoughts instead of thoughts turned into words. Key is for thought process to change. Anyway of doing that will work. Your technique works too.

06-07-2011, 01:33 PM

moke64916 Deactivated AccountJoin Date: Jun 2011Location: Here..There..NeitherPosts: 2,781

Xan and also sometimes internal dialogue can make one anxiety ridden. Which makes it harder to just focus on the silence inside. Depending on what level you are at. Sometimes your advise is

easier said than done. When I am fully conscious I always focus on that silence if it occurs. Whenone unconsciously manifests internal dialogue, one might not be able to focus on the silencebecause one might become unconscious or anxiety. To focus on the stillness inside you would have

to focus on your breathing first. To bring tension away. Then focus on the stilllness. It all dependson how conscious a person is in my opinion.

06-07-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XanTrying to stop internal dialogue is like trying to put wind in a box.Instead, simply shift your awareness into the silent open space within.

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06-07-2011, 01:38 PM

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It's pretty simple really. Ambiguous things always sound best, because it causes the imaginationto invent flights of fancy, and the simplictic and practical told in clear everyday language is just too

bland, so reducing the internal dialogue is a matter of simplicity and practicality... pretyy boringay?





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06-07-2011, 02:53 PM

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Yes it is with simplicity. Just stay Present. Surrender to what is. Simple, I'm just sharing other

tools as well.

06-07-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by moke64916Yes it is with simplicity. Just stay Present. Surrender to what is. Simple, I'm just sharingother tools as well.

That's cool... but 'just stay present' and 'surrender to what is' are like slogans that dont sayanything... to me such sayings are completely meaningless... same as xan's obscure space within.That's why I was saying how it sounds soooo spiritualized, but nothing practical is offered. It's

pointless offering the simple and practical isn't it, because the ambiguous sounds way more

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06-07-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GemThat's cool... but 'just stay present' and 'surrender to what is' are like slogans that dont

say anything... to me such sayings are completely meaningless... same as xan's obscurespace within. That's why I was saying how it sounds soooo spiritualized, but nothing practical is offered. It's pointless offering the simple and practical isn't it, because the

ambiguous sounds way more appealing.

I understand what you're saying Gem. It does make sense to those who have been there but not

to those that can't understand. Like if I said, "Well just picture a Lorry in your mind." If you'venever seen a Lorry, how would you picture it?

Let's see if I can use words to help.

Focusing on breath was a good example by moke. Finding something that has no emotional or

physical attachment to it. Breath. This small focus on just observing your breathing, not changingit, not trying to breathe more or less, but just keep returning your focus to that automatic bodyfunction. You can also listen to your heart. Put in earplugs and just listen to your blood circulating

and your heart pumping. (this can tend to freak some people out but it is another automatic body

repetition)

The space within is to focus your thoughts on something that isn't something. Like a blackness.This takes a LOT of practice but you can try adding something. IE: seeing the word LOVE printedon a black background.

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As your mind starts to wander, bring it back to that black sheet with the word LOVE in pink, or red

or whatever you wish.

Does that help?

06-07-2011, 03:39 PM

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If that internal dialogue is negative, demeaning or condescending, then the book "How to TameYour Grimlen" by Rick Carson might be really helpful. My husband used the book and found itreally helpful and it actually helped our relationship.

06-07-2011, 03:42 PM

Medium_Laura SuspendedMasterJoin Date: Jan 2011Location: Richmond VAPosts: 3,143

oh cool! Thanks for sharing that !:) I love to have things to offer clients to read :)

06-07-2011, 03:49 PM

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I understand what you're saying Gem. It does make sense to those who have been therebut not to those that can't understand. Like if I said, "Well just picture a Lorry in your

mind." If you've never seen a Lorry, how would you picture it?

Let's see if I can use words to help.

Focusing on breath was a good example by moke. Finding something that has noemotional or physical attachment to it. Breath. This small focus on just observing your

breathing, not changing it, not trying to breathe more or less, but just keep returning your focus to that automatic body function. You can also listen to your heart. Put in earplugsand just listen to your blood circulating and your heart pumping. (this can tend to freak

some people out but it is another automatic body repetition)





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The space within is to focus your thoughts on something that isn't something. Like a

blackness. This takes a LOT of practice but you can try adding something. IE: seeing theword LOVE printed on a black background.

As your mind starts to wander, bring it back to that black sheet with the word LOVE in pink, or red or whatever you wish.

Does that help?

I'm the one helping actually, and it was effective too...

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06-07-2011, 03:50 PM

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oh LOL! :) well I helped by answering your help LOL

06-07-2011, 04:07 PM

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oh LOL! :) well I helped by answering your help LOL

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06-07-2011, 04:41 PM

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Greetings..

Find a comfortable place to sit or stand, understand that your intention is for a still mind, then..extend your index fingers as if 'pointing', while the rest of your fingers, hand, and body are

relaxed.. the extended index finger should feel some slight tension along the 'palm-side', relax the

rest of the body comfortably, and.. see what happens.. let me know if you don't mind.. Thispractice is best understood, initially, in a relaxed state, but it is equally effective under any

circumstances..

Be well..





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06-07-2011, 05:38 PM

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That's cool... but 'just stay present' and 'surrender to what is' are like slogans that dont say anything... to me such sayings are completely meaningless... same as xan's obscurespace within. That's why I was saying how it sounds soooo spiritualized, but nothing practical is offered. It's pointless offering the simple and practical isn't it, because the

ambiguous sounds way more appealing.

Gee Gem... For me it was ultimately practical and simple, learning how to shift my attention awayfrom the chattering mind by breathing into the quiet open space that is inherent within everyone.

If it seems obscure this only comes from lack of experience... yet.

For Moke... In my view it's important to consider what your goal is. Is it to just stop the dialogueand get a little peace of mind... or to experience what you are beyond the mind. I know what you

answer is, but I wanted to raise the question.

Xan

06-07-2011, 07:43 PM

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That's cool... but 'just stay present' and 'surrender to what is' are like slogans that dont say anything... to me such sayings are completely meaningless... same as xan's obscurespace within. That's why I was saying how it sounds soooo spiritualized, but nothing

practical is offered. It's pointless offering the simple and practical isn't it, because theambiguous sounds way more appealing.

hmm, no I just think those words surrender to what is and present is easier said than done. Butthe core issue of a problem or issue is resistance. I would say the simplistic ways are the best. If

one hears those words for the first time, it wouldn't click in. I just go with the flow now. Anotherway for me to stay happy, is to "love all emotions." No actually the noise is not the way I like tocope. It depends on how much one is aware or conscious of what they are doing in my opinion. I

choose without noise. The stillness and silence. Which that I feel right now.

06-07-2011, 07:49 PM

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Gem I am aware of the simplicity, but another may not. Another may be used to the noise, and to

help people or their level you have to be able to relate to someone on their level. I alwayspractice simplicity with everything. It's just another may not. Another may need noise to stopnoise to get to the point to feel the silence. Not all of my threads and posts are directly related to

where I am now, but what I have been through in the past.

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