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    Appendix A State and Federal

    Agency Involvement Materials

     

     

  • Mid-Currituck Bridge Study Stakeholder Involvement for DEIS A‐1

    A. State and Federal Agency Involvement Materials

    NEPA/SECTION 404 MERGER TEAM MEETING MINUTES......................................A‐4 

    July 12, 2001 Meeting...................................................................................................A‐4 

    August 16 2001 Meeting..............................................................................................A‐5 

    May 8, 2002 Meeting ....................................................................................................A‐7 

    July 24, 2002 Meetings...............................................................................................A‐11 

    August 20, 2003 Meeting...........................................................................................A‐19 

    TURNPIKE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY COORDINATION  (TEAC) MEETING MINUTES* ..........................................................................................A‐23 

    December 15, 2006 Meeting......................................................................................A‐23 

    January 17, 2007 Meeting ..........................................................................................A‐29 

    April 18, 2007 Meeting ..............................................................................................A‐32 

    May 23 and 31, 2007 Meetings .................................................................................A‐35 

    June 20, 2007 Meeting................................................................................................A‐39 

    July 10, 2007 Field Trip..............................................................................................A‐45 

    July 18, 2007 Meeting.................................................................................................A‐46 

    September 19, 2007 Meeting.....................................................................................A‐50 

    November 14, 2007 Meeting.....................................................................................A‐52 

    February 5, 2008 Meeting..........................................................................................A‐57 

    April 8, 2008 Meeting ................................................................................................A‐62 

    May 6, 2008 Meeting ..................................................................................................A‐67 

    July 8, 2008 Meeting...................................................................................................A‐68 

    October 7, 2008 Meeting............................................................................................A‐79 

    June 10, 2009 Meeting................................................................................................A‐85 

    *Note:  The minutes include notes related to all NCTA projects discussed with the TEAC on any given day and not just the Mid‐Currituck Bridge Study. 

    TURNPIKE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY COORDINATION  (TEAC) MEETING HANDOUTS.......................................................................................A‐87 

    Handout 1 – Hurricane Evacuation Need (April 18, 2007)..................................A‐87 

    Handout 2 – Conceptual Alternatives (April 18, 2007)........................................A‐89 

  • Mid-Currituck Bridge Study Stakeholder Involvement for DEIS A‐2

    Handout 3 – Alternatives Screening Criteria (April 18, 2007)............................A‐91 

    Handout 4 – Analysis of Conceptual Alternatives (May 23, 2007)....................A‐96 

    Handout 5 – Highway Improvement Alternatives Comparison  (June 20, 2007)..................................................................................................A‐117 

    Handout 6 – 1995 Comparison of Bridge Alternatives (June 20, 2007)...........A‐120 

    Handout 7 – Response to Agency Comments May 23 to  June 12, 2007 (June 20, 2007) .........................................................................A‐123 

    Handout 8 – Response to Agency Comments at the July 18, 2007 TEAC Meeting (August 6, 2007 – Updated September 5, 2007) .............A‐128 

    Handout 9 – Response to Written TEAC Comments Requested  in July 2007 (September 19, 2007 Update)..................................................A‐132 

    Handout 10 – Detailed Study Alternatives (September 19, 2007) ...................A‐141 

    Handout 11 – Conceptual Alternatives Refinement (November 14, 2007)....A‐143 

    Handout 12 – February 2008 Citizens Informational Workshop  Comments Summary (April 8, 2008) ...........................................................A‐149 

    Handout 13 – May 2008 Citizens Purpose and Need and Alternatives  Screening Report Comments Summary (July 8, 2008).............................A‐156 

    Handout 14 – Summary of Agency Comments Received  May 2008 (July 8, 2008) ..................................................................................A‐159 

    Handout 15 – Scope for Evaluating ER2 and MCB2 as Detailed Study Alternatives in the DEIS (July 8, 2008) .......................................................A‐162 

    Handout 16 – ER2 and MCB2 Detailed Studies (October 7, 2008) ..................A‐164 

    Handout 17 – DEIS Outline, Technical Reports, and  Schedule (June 10, 2009)................................................................................A‐170 

    Handout 18 – MCB2 & MCB4 Mainland Corridor Design  Options (June 10, 2009)..................................................................................A‐172 

    TURNPIKE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY COORDINATION (TEAC)  COMMENT LETTERS .......................................................................................................A‐173 

    US Department of the Army, Wilmington District, Corps of Engineers.......A‐173 

    US Environmental Protection Agency .................................................................A‐178 

    North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources...........................................A‐184 

    North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources ...........A‐184 Division of Coastal Management..................................................................A‐184 Division of Marine Fisheries ..........................................................................A‐186 Division of Water Quality ..............................................................................A‐188 

  • Mid-Currituck Bridge Study Stakeholder Involvement for DEIS A‐3

    North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission........................................A‐197 

    NCTA LETTER TO AGENCIES ON ITS FINAL PURPOSE AND NEED AND ALTERNATIVES DECISIONS (JULY 2, 2008) ..............................................................A‐198 

    FINAL SECTION 6002 PROJECT COORDINATION PLAN.....................................A‐203

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    eces

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    hn n

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    lve

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    tern

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    on

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    osed

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    an a

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    akeh

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    r mee

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    mbe

    r for

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    ntie

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    roce

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    we

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    cuse

    d co

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    nate

    d w

    ork

    plan

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    and

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    cuss

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    er S

    heat

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    an a

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    whe

    ther

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    e C

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    s a p

    lan.

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    hy

    Brit

    tingh

    am n

    oted

    that

    that

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    MA

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    pla

    n fo

    r all

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    nty

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    cts a

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    he b

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    he so

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    as n

    oted

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    num

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    aces

    to b

    egin

    the

    brid

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    er th

    ere

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    envi

    ronm

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    ues a

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    ted

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    ente

    r are

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    ed a

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    mpa

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    pro

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    on

    the

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    rituc

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    fis

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    c.- a

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    ot ju

    st th

    e m

    arsh

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    nd sw

    amps

    . M

    ike

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    ted

    that

    the

    impa

    cts f

    rom

    a b

    ridge

    will

    no

    t cha

    nge

    from

    the

    prev

    ious

    stud

    y. J

    ohn

    Page

    not

    ed th

    at th

    e an

    y im

    pact

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    avoi

    ded,

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    imiz

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    and

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    gate

    d.

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    ee G

    ledh

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    y as

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    whe

    ther

    the

    coun

    ty w

    as p

    latte

    d. J

    ohn

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    not

    ed th

    at it

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    .

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    Bis

    terf

    eld

    ques

    tione

    d w

    heth

    er p

    arce

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    oth

    the

    mai

    nlan

    d an

    d ou

    ter b

    anks

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    urrit

    uck

    Cou

    nty

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    be

    en a

    ppro

    ved

    for d

    evel

    opm

    ent.

    John

    Pag

    e sa

    id y

    es; h

    owev

    er th

    ere

    are

    strin

    gent

    land

    use

    con

    trols

    .A

    dditi

    onal

    ly, l

    ack

    of p

    ublic

    serv

    ices

    (wat

    er) l

    imits

    the

    amou

    nt o

    f dev

    elop

    men

    t.

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    ee q

    uest

    ione

    d w

    heth

    er a

    n ad

    equa

    te p

    ublic

    faci

    litie

    s ord

    inan

    ce w

    as in

    pla

    ce.

    John

    Pag

    e st

    ated

    that

    an

    ordi

    nanc

    e is

    in p

    lace

    how

    ever

    no

    one

    in a

    ttend

    ance

    kne

    w th

    e sp

    ecifi

    cs o

    f the

    ord

    inan

    ce.

    The

    ques

    tion

    of th

    e ef

    fect

    ive

    date

    and

    rece

    nt a

    men

    dmen

    ts to

    the

    Cur

    rituc

    k C

    ount

    y la

    nd u

    se p

    lan

    was

    di

    scus

    sed.

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    hy B

    rittin

    gham

    indi

    cate

    d th

    at sh

    e w

    ill fo

    llow

    up

    and

    dete

    rmin

    e th

    ese

    date

    s.

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    idea

    of p

    artn

    erin

    g w

    ith th

    e co

    mm

    unity

    was

    dis

    cuss

    ed.

    Ran

    dy T

    urne

    r sta

    ted

    that

    it w

    ould

    be

    a go

    od

    idea

    to a

    sk th

    e co

    mm

    unity

    wha

    t the

    y ca

    n do

    to m

    itiga

    te o

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    uce

    indi

    rect

    and

    cum

    ulat

    ive

    impa

    cts.

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    e B

    ell o

    bjec

    ted

    to th

    e id

    ea o

    f enc

    oura

    ging

    or d

    isco

    urag

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    deve

    lopm

    ent i

    n th

    is p

    roce

    ss.

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    terf

    eld

    ques

    tione

    d th

    e fu

    ndin

    g fo

    r lon

    g-te

    rm b

    each

    reno

    uris

    hmen

    t.

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    r a

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    ntu

    ry o

    f

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    roje

    ct

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    mb

    er

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    gin

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    xc

    ell

    en

    ce

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    rge

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    m M

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    g M

    inu

    tes

    Pag

    e 3

    John

    Hen

    ness

    y as

    ked,

    is th

    ere

    a tra

    ffic

    def

    icie

    ncy

    we

    are

    tryin

    g to

    solv

    e an

    d if

    so w

    hat i

    s the

    def

    icie

    ncy.

    Jo

    hn P

    age

    resp

    onde

    d th

    at y

    es th

    ere

    is a

    def

    icie

    ncy

    and

    disc

    usse

    d th

    e cu

    rren

    t pro

    blem

    s with

    con

    gest

    ion

    alon

    g U

    S 15

    8, W

    right

    Mem

    oria

    l Brid

    ge a

    nd N

    C 1

    2.

    John

    Hen

    ness

    y qu

    estio

    ned

    whe

    ther

    the

    spec

    ific

    carr

    ying

    cap

    acity

    of t

    he la

    nd, r

    elat

    ive

    to th

    e av

    aila

    bilit

    y of

    po

    tabl

    e w

    ater

    , sho

    uld

    be fa

    ctor

    ed in

    to th

    e tra

    ffic

    stud

    ies.

    John

    Pag

    e re

    spon

    ded

    that

    yes

    the

    issu

    e w

    ill b

    e co

    nsid

    ered

    in th

    is st

    udy.

    Joh

    n al

    so n

    oted

    that

    the

    issu

    e w

    as in

    dire

    ctly

    con

    side

    red

    in th

    e 19

    97 st

    udy

    by

    ackn

    owle

    dgin

    g th

    e fa

    ct th

    at tr

    affic

    wou

    ld st

    ill c

    ontin

    ue to

    wor

    sen

    even

    if a

    ll de

    velo

    pmen

    t was

    hal

    ted.

    H

    owev

    er th

    e lim

    itatio

    ns o

    f suc

    h a

    stud

    y w

    ill b

    e ev

    alua

    ted.

    Joh

    n H

    enne

    ssy

    stat

    ed th

    at u

    ntil

    we

    addr

    ess t

    he

    capa

    city

    issu

    e, n

    ew d

    evel

    opm

    ent i

    s not

    an

    optio

    n an

    d th

    at tr

    affic

    shou

    ld b

    e lim

    ited

    base

    d on

    the

    avai

    labi

    lity

    of w

    ater

    . Jo

    hn P

    age

    note

    d th

    at w

    e ca

    nnot

    pla

    n ro

    ads f

    or 2

    025

    in re

    latio

    n to

    cur

    rent

    wat

    er

    avai

    labi

    lity

    as C

    urrit

    uck

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    nty

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    e a

    grea

    ter c

    apac

    ity in

    the

    next

    few

    yea

    rs.

    Ted

    Bis

    terf

    eld

    ques

    tione

    d th

    e lo

    catio

    n of

    a w

    ater

    mai

    n on

    the

    brid

    ge.

    John

    Pag

    e no

    ted

    that

    the

    coun

    ty is

    ev

    alua

    ting

    a re

    vers

    e os

    mos

    is sy

    stem

    whi

    ch w

    ould

    rule

    out

    the

    need

    for u

    sing

    the

    brid

    ge to

    supp

    ly w

    ater

    .

    Mik

    e B

    ell s

    tate

    d th

    at th

    e ke

    y im

    pact

    issu

    es a

    re:

    Hur

    rican

    e ev

    acua

    tion

    Cur

    rituc

    k So

    und

    impa

    cts

    Proj

    ect i

    nclu

    des C

    urrit

    uck

    and

    Dar

    e C

    ount

    ies

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    e th

    en v

    erba

    lly li

    sted

    the

    curr

    ent M

    erge

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    m M

    embe

    rs:

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    ifer H

    arris

    on, N

    CD

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    Cat

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    slow

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    Dav

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    Jenn

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    his i

    ssue

    was

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    cuss

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    nd st

    ill n

    eeds

    to b

    e re

    solv

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    (via

    pho

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    tate

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    anni

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    nviro

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    up o

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    as in

    itiat

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    stud

    y of

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    e 4

    Ted

    Bis

    terf

    eld

    note

    d th

    at th

    e EI

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    ust i

    dent

    ify m

    anag

    emen

    t goa

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    r Cur

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    este

    d a

    com

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    ensi

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    traf

    fic m

    anag

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    t com

    pone

    nt w

    hich

    eva

    luat

    es ti

    mes

    and

    mod

    es o

    f tra

    ffic

    .

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    ee G

    ledh

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    y qu

    estio

    ned

    the

    timel

    ine.

    Gai

    l Grim

    es n

    oted

    that

    the

    we

    do n

    ot y

    et h

    ave

    timel

    ine

    for t

    he p

    roje

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    Gai

    l Grim

    es a

    lso

    note

    d th

    at w

    e ar

    e try

    ing

    to c

    over

    all

    aspe

    cts o

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    pro

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    and

    we

    still

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    mee

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    Dar

    e an

    d C

    urrit

    uck

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    ntie

    s to

    disc

    uss t

    he p

    ropo

    sed

    new

    wor

    k pl

    an.

    John

    Hen

    ness

    y qu

    estio

    ned

    why

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    proj

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    as re

    star

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    l Grim

    es n

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    the

    proj

    ect w

    as n

    ever

    de

    activ

    ated

    . Th

    e pr

    ojec

    t was

    stal

    led

    and

    now

    it h

    as b

    een

    reac

    tivat

    ed.

    The

    ques

    tion

    was

    ask

    ed w

    hy th

    e hu

    rric

    ane

    mod

    el is

    bei

    ng re

    done

    . G

    ail s

    tate

    d th

    at w

    e ar

    e no

    t red

    oing

    the

    mod

    el.

    We

    will

    use

    the

    Cor

    p's

    rece

    nt h

    urric

    ane

    stud

    y an

    d m

    odel

    and

    use

    it to

    pro

    ject

    20

    to 2

    5 ye

    ars a

    head

    .

    John

    Hen

    ness

    y st

    ated

    that

    with

    out a

    pur

    pose

    and

    nee

    d it

    wou

    ld b

    e di

    ffic

    ult f

    or th

    e M

    erge

    r Tea

    m to

    co

    mm

    ent o

    n th

    e pr

    ojec

    t. G

    ail n

    oted

    that

    NC

    DO

    T w

    ould

    like

    the

    Mer

    ger T

    eam

    to b

    e a

    part

    of th

    e co

    mpr

    ehen

    sive

    stud

    y to

    eva

    luat

    e th

    e tra

    nspo

    rtatio

    n ne

    ed. C

    athy

    Brit

    tingh

    am st

    ated

    that

    the

    NC

    DC

    M w

    ill

    have

    com

    men

    ts b

    ut th

    ey n

    eed

    to c

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    thei

    r file

    s to

    get u

    p to

    spee

    d on

    the

    proj

    ect.

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    Pag

    e re

    ques

    ted

    that

    the

    com

    men

    ts b

    e se

    nt (w

    ithin

    2 w

    eeks

    ) bef

    ore

    the

    mee

    ting

    with

    the

    coun

    ties.

    Dav

    id C

    ox in

    dica

    ted

    that

    his

    con

    cern

    s abo

    ut th

    is p

    roje

    ct h

    ave

    not c

    hang

    ed si

    nce

    the

    orig

    inal

    stud

    ies.

    Fra

    nk M

    cBrid

    e in

    dica

    ted

    that

    it w

    ill b

    e di

    ffic

    ult t

    o re

    ach

    a w

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    in sc

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    io.

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    terf

    eld

    note

    d th

    at h

    e w

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    e no

    ac

    tion

    alte

    rnat

    ive.

    John

    Pag

    e in

    dica

    ted

    that

    we

    will

    mee

    t with

    the

    coun

    ties w

    ithin

    the

    next

    few

    wee

    ks.

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    ifer H

    arris

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    d th

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