snowsport england ii 09 2013
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How Skis Hold, and
Using the Inside Ski in Carved Turns
Ron LeMaster
Snowsport England, Sept. 2013
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How Skis Hold and Carve
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What Makes a Ski Hold?
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Putting a Ski On, On a Slope
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The Ski Cuts a Platform
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Platform Angle
The angle between the base of the ski
(the platform), and the balance axis
Not the same as the edge angle
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What Determines Platform Angle?
Angulation Boot canting
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Carving & Skidding
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Platform Angle
The difference between carving andskidding
90 deg. or less, ski holds
Greater than 90 deg., the ski slips
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Traversing and Turning
Platform angle is similarIts dependent on the relationship of the
CM to the base of the skis edge
Its independent of the slope
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Traversing and Turning
What does this say about stance in aturn?
What does this say about canting?
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The Inside Ski in Carved Turns
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Using the Inside Ski
Best skiers use it to assist carving onthe outside ski
Primarily in first half of turn
Not carving on the inside ski
You must first learn to stand and
carve on the outside ski!
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What Determines Carved Turn Radius?
Edge angle Higher edge angle = smaller radius
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Edge Angle
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Reverse Camber on Hard Snow
Determined by edge angle
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P. Federolf, Finite Element Simulation of a Carving Snow Ski,
Swiss Fed. Inst. Of Technology, Zurich, 2005
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What Determines Edge Angle?
Angle of lower leg to the snow, which isdetermined by
Inclination of body (balance axis)
Angulation
The distance of foot from the balance axis
(i.e., how much weight is on the inside foot)
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Determinants of Edge Angle
Factor Range
Body inclination 0-70 deg
Angulation -10 deg
+20 deg
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To Make the Tightest Turn
Put only as much weight on the outsideski as you need to penetrate the snow,
make it hold, and bend into reverse
camber The rest should on the inside ski
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Practical Limitations
Hard snow requires some force topenetrate
Human biomechanical considerations
Boot out
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Get Your Feet Away From Your Body
Common advice for carving better turns Conflicts with the idea of standing on
the outside ski at the start of the turn
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About 8 deg. difference in edge angle ofoutside ski
Outside ski edge angle 65 vs 57 (~8)
Carving radius 15m vs 19m (35m
sidecut radius on very hard snow)
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