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Smucker(JM)(SJM)EarningsReport:Q42016ConferenceCallTranscriptThefollowingSmucker(JM)conferencecalltookplaceonJune9,2016,08:30AMET.Thisisatranscriptofthatearningscall:
CompanyPart icipants
AaronBroholm;JMSmuckerCompany;InvestorRelationsRichardSmucker;JMSmuckerCompany;ExecutiveChairmanMarkSmucker;JMSmuckerCompany;President&CEOMarkBelgya;JMSmuckerCompany;CFOVinceByrd;JMSmuckerCompany;ViceChairmanSteveOakland;JMSmuckerCompany;President,USFoodandBeverageBarryDunaway;JMSmuckerCompany;President,PetFoodandPetSnacks
OtherPart icipants
AndrewLazar;BarclaysCapital;AnalystDavidDriscoll;Citigroup;AnalystChrisGrowe;StifelNicolaus;AnalystKenGoldman;JPMorgan;AnalystJasonEnglish;GoldmanSachs;AnalystAlexiaHoward;SanfordC.Bernstein&Co;AnalystMarioContreras;DeutscheBank;AnalystPabloZuanic;SIG;AnalystMatthewGrainger;MorganStanley;AnalystAkshayJagdale;JefferiesLLC;AnalystGregoryNep;StephensInc;AnalystChuckCerankosky;NorthcoastResearch;AnalystRobDickerson;ConsumerEdgeResearch;Analyst
MANAGEMENTDISCUSSIONSECTION
Operator :
WelcometotheJ.M.SmuckerCompany'sfourthquarter2016earningsconferencecall.
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IwillnowturntheconferencecallovertoAaronBroholm,VicePresident,InvestorRelations.Pleasegoahead,sir.
AaronBroholm(InvestorRelations):
Goodmorning,everyone.Thankyouforjoiningusonourfourthquarterearningsconferencecall.
WithmetodayandpresentingourpreparedremarksareRichardSmucker,ExecutiveChairman;MarkSmucker,PresidentandChiefExecutiveOfficer;andMarkBelgya,ChiefFinancialOfficer.AlsojoiningusfortheQ&AportionofthecallareSteveOakland,PresidentUSFoodandBeverage,andBarry
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Dunaway,PresidentPetFoodandPetSnacks.VinceByrd,ViceChairman,isalsoonthelinefromanotherlocation.
Duringthisconferencecall,wewillmakeforward-lookingstatementsthatreflecttheCompany'scurrentexpectationsaboutfutureplansandperformance.Thesestatementsrelyonanumberofassumptionsandestimates,andactualresultsmaydiffermateriallyduetorisksanduncertainties.
Iencourageyoutoreadthefulldisclosurestatementinthismorning'spressreleaseconcerningforward-lookingstatements.Additionally,pleasenotetheCompanyusesnon-GAAPresultsforthepurposeofevaluatingperformanceinternallyasdetailedinthepressrelease,whichislocatedonourcorporatewebsiteatjmsmucker.com.
Asweindicatedearlierinthecalendaryear,wearetransitioningtoonenon-GAAPearningspersharemetricin2017,whichexcludesnon-cashintangibleamortization.WewillrefertothisasadjustedEPS.
Amortizationexpensewillalsoberemovedfromourdefinitionofsegmentprofit,aswellasnon-GAAPoperatingincome,andnetincome.
WewillfileaForm8-Klaterthisquartertorecastprioryearsegmentresultstoreflectthenewdefinition.
Wehavepostedtoourwebsiteacoupleofsupplementaryslides,includingabridgefromourFY16resultstoourFY17adjustedEPSguidance.Theseslidescanbeaccessedthroughthelinktothewebcastofthiscall.Thisdocumentandareplayofthiscallwillbearchivedonourwebsite.
Ifyouhaveanyquestionsaftertoday'scall,pleasecontactme.
IwillnowturnthecallovertoRichard.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Thankyou,Aaron.Goodmorning,everyone.Thankyouforjoiningus.
FY16wasadynamicandexcitingyearfortheSmuckerCompany,asourteamsdeliveredonanumberofkeystrategicinitiatives.Theseincludedsignificantlyimprovingtheperformanceofourcoffeebusiness,reflectinglaunchoftheDunkin'DonutsK-Cups,andreturningmomentumtoourmainstreamcoffeebusiness,expandingdistributionforourNaturalBalancepetbrand,executingaseamlessintegrationofthepetfoodbusiness,exceedingoursynergyandworkingcapitaltargetsfortheyear,divestingourUScannedmilkbusiness,allresultinginrecordfinancialperformanceandearnings,andcashflowthatexceededourexpectations.
Letmeexpandontheresultsfortheyear.Netsalesincreased37%to$7.8billion,reflectingthefullyearcontributionofBigHeartpetbrand.Excludingacquisitions,divestituresandforeignexchange,salesincreased3%forthefullyear.
Non-GAAPoperatingincomewasup49%to$1.28billion,withthecontributionsfrompetandstrongcoffeesegmentprofitgrowthbeingthekeydrivers.Non-GAAPearningspersharewere$6.57includingaone-time$[0.42]persharenon-cashbenefit.Thiscomparestoourmostrecentguidanceof$5.84to$5.94whichexcludedthetaxbenefit.
Lastly,theCompanygeneratedfreecashflowof$1.26billionwhichiswellaboveouroriginalestimate.Reflectingthisstrongcashflow,weexceededourdeleveragingobjectivefortheyear,reducingtotaldebtbynearly$750million.Wealsoreturnedover$750millionofcashtoshareholdersintheformofsharerepurchasesanddividends.
Therewerenumerousaccomplishmentsduringthepastfiscalyear,andthisperformanceisatestamentto
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thededicationofouremployees,andwethankthemfortheircontinuedefforts.Wearewell-positionedtocontinuethismomentumintoFY17.
Sincethelasttimewespoketomanyofyou,weannouncedseveralexecutiveappointmentsthatareconsistentwiththeCompany'shistoryoflong-termsuccessionplanning,andthedevelopmentofleadershiptomeetthecurrentandfutureneedsofourbusiness,andtheconstituentsthatweserve.EffectiveMay1,MarkSmuckerassumedtheroleofPresidentandChiefExecutiveOfficer.MarkandhisexperiencedleadershipteamembodythevaluesthathavecontributedtotheCompany'ssuccessandlong-termgrowth.Iamconfidentthatundertheirdirection,theCompanywillcontinuetoinnovate,evolve,andgrowintheyearstocome.
ItsbeenanhonortoserveasCEOoftheSmuckerCompany,andIamgratefultohaveworkedalongsidethemosttalentedteamintheindustry.IwillcontinuetoservetheCompanyasExecutiveChairman.Amongotherareas,myeffortswillbefocusedonBoard-relatedmatters,counselandadviceonstrategicdecisions,enhancingcustomerrelationships,andadvancingourindustryleadershipefforts.MybrotherTimhasbeenappointedtotheroleofChairmanEmeritus,andwealsolookforwardtohiscontinuedcontributions.
Lastly,IwouldliketorecognizeVinceByrd,whoisparticipatinginhisfinalearningscall,ashisretirementafter39yearswiththeCompanyiseffectivetomorrow.Vince'scontributionshavehelpedshapetheCompanythatwearetoday,andwillcontinuetobereflectedinthenumerousemployeesthathehasmentoredthroughouthiscareer.
Withthat,I'llturnthecallovertoMark.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Thankyou,Richard.Goodmorning,everyone.
Asyouknow,ourCompanyisunique,inbeingledbyonlysixCEOsinits119-yearhistory.IamhonoredtosucceedRichardasCEO,andserveasastewardofthisgreatCompany.
RichardhasledourCompanythroughaperiodofsignificantexpansionandstrategictransformation.Asaresult,ourCompanyisstrongerthanever.Iamexcitedtoleadourtalentedteam,leveragingthecontinuedcounselofRichard,Dad,andouroutstandingBoardtodrivecontinuedgrowthandshareholdervalue.IalsowouldliketoechoRichard'scommentsaboutVince,andthankhimforhiscontributionsandmentorship.
Thefocusofmycommentstodaywillbetoprovideanupdateonourbusinesssegments,includingadditionalcoloronfullyear2016performance,andinitialthoughtsonFY17.I'llstartwithourcoffeebusinesswhichfarexceededexpectationsfortheyear.Netsaleswereup8%andsegmentprofitincreased18%to$646million,representingafullrecoveryofthesegmentprofitdeclineintheprioryear.ThisoutperformancewasdrivenbyseveralfactorsincludingthesuccessfullaunchofDunkin'DonutsK-cups,theimplementationoftheplannedFolgerscanisterdownsize,amoderationincompetitiveactivities,andthenetbenefitoflowercommoditycostsandpricing.
ProvidinglowerpricingonFolgersroastandgroundcoffeeresultedinimprovedperformanceforourmainstreamcoffeebusinessin2016.Tonnageforourmainstreambrandswasup3%,whileunitsshippedwereupevenmore,giventhecanisterdownsizeearlyinthefiscalyear.Inaddition,ourdollarsharewithinthemainstreamsegmentofthecoffeecategoryincreasednearly2sharepointsto55%forthelatest52weekperiod.
Weanticipatemomentuminthecoffeebusinesstocontinuein2017.KeyinitiativesincludeFolgers'
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sponsorshipoftheUSOlympicteamfortheupcomingRiogames,withmarketingactivitiesalreadyunderway.Inaddition,lastmonth,weimplementeda6%listpricedeclineacrossmuchofourcoffeeportfolio,reflectingsustainedlowergreencoffeecosts.Theselowercostshavebeenreflectedinpromotionalpricingforthepastseveralquarters,andwedonotanticipatepromotedpriceschangingsignificantly.
WithregardstoFolgersK-Cups,in2016thebrandwasimpactedbytheongoingproliferationofentrantsintotheK-Cupspace,includingourintroductionofDunkin'K-Cups.Thisyear,wewillinvestfurtherintheproductlinetoimprovetrends,includinglowerpricingandnewpackagingthatwillleveragetheiconicFolgersredcanbrandequity.
TurningtotheDunkin'Donutsbrand,Dunkin'K-Cupsachievednearly$220millioninretailsalesforthelatest52weekscanperiod,andgaineda6%dollarshareoftheK-Cupmarket,givingusanoverallshareofnearly15%intheK-Cupsegment.
Initsfirstyearonthemarket,theDunkin'DonutsoriginalSKUhasbecomethenumberoneK-Cupiteminthechannelsinwhichweparticipate.Asconsumerrepeatratesremainstrong,andwithopportunitiestointroduceadditionalvarieties,weanticipatefurthergrowthin2017.
Whilechallengedformuchof2016,performanceimprovedforDunkin'Donutsbaggedcoffeeduringthefourthquarter.Supportedbyfavorableinputcosts,wehavesharpenedpricingtoimprovegapstokeycompetitorsandwelookforpositivevolumetrendstocontinue.Lastly,withincoffee,theCafeBustelobrandexperiencedasecondconsecutiveyearofdouble-digitsalesgrowthbehindstrongperformanceforbothroastandgroundandK-Cupofferings.Thisexcitingon-trendbrandremainswell-receivedbymillennials,anditsgrowthisexpectedtocontinuealsoin2017.
Turningtoconsumerfoods,netsalesdeclined3%fortheyear,mostlyduetolappingsalesfromthedivestedcannedmilkbusiness.Segmentprofitwasflattoprioryear,supportedbythegainonthemilkbusinesssalewhichoffsetplannedincreasesinmanufacturingoverheadcosts.
Lookingbrieflyatthekeybrands,wearepleasedwiththeoverallperformanceofourspreadsbusiness,asbothJifpeanutbutterandSmuckersfruitspreadsgrewvolumeshareoverthelatest52weekperiod.Inaddition,SmuckersUncrustablesfrozensandwicheshadanotherstrongyear,withvolumeup26%includinga17thconsecutivequarterofdouble-digitvolumegrowthinthismostrecentfourthquarter.
On-trendinnovationcontinuestobeafocusareafortheiconicJifandSmuckersbrands.InFY17,welooktobuildonrecentsuccessfullaunchessuchasSmuckersFruit&HoneyFruitSpreadsandJifsnackbars.Thisincludestheupcomingintroductionofnewsnackbarvarieties,andplanstoexpandintoothersnackingplatforms.Inaddition,Jif,Smuckers,andUncrustablesareallparticipatinginthe2016Olympicsponsorship,whichwillbeanintegralpartofthisyear'smarketingeffortsforthebrand.
Inthebakeaisle,theoverallcategoryremainschallengedthroughoutmuchofthispastyear,reflectingchangingconsumerpreferencesandaggressivecompetitivepricing.Ourfocusremainsonprovidingvalue-addedinnovation,suchasourrecentglutenfreeandsimpleingredientofferings.WearealsoexcitedtoannouncealicensingarrangementwiththeGirlScoutsofAmerica.Underthisagreement,wearelaunchingnewPillsburyitemsfeaturingiconicGirlScoutcookieflavors.
Withinnaturalfoods,ourleadingR.W.KnudsenfamilyandSantaCruzorganicbrandsbothachievedsolidsalesgrowthin2016.Thekeynaturalfoodscategoriesinwhichourbrandsparticipatearegrowing,whichgivesusconfidenceinmaintainingourmomentuminthisbusiness.WearealsoexcitedaboutourrecentinvestmentintheNumibrand,andtheopportunitiesthisprovidesintheorganicteacategory.
Underourfirstyearofownership,petfoodssegmentprofitof$392millionwasgenerallyinlinewithexpectations.Netsalesof$2.25billionfell1%shortoftheprojectionsprovidedatourOctoberInvestor
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Day,duetocompetitivechallengesinmainstreamdrydogfood.Fortheyear,mainstreampetfoodsalesdecreasedmidsingle-digits,reflectingdouble-digitdeclinesindogfood,andalowsingle-digitdeclineforthelargercatfoodbusiness.Offsettingthelowermainstreamsaleswasthestrongperformanceofourpetsnacksbusiness,whichwasupmidsingle-digitsovertheprioryear,andourpremiumpetfoodbrandswhichgrewdouble-digitsbehindexpandeddistributionoftheNaturalBalancebrand.
Asweenter2017,weanticipatecontinuedgrowthforNaturalBalance,aswelaunchthebrand'sfirstnationalmarketingcampaignalongwithadditionalin-storesupport.Withinpetsnacks,innovationfortheMilk-BoneandtheMeowMixbrandswerekeycontributorsto2016results,andweexpecttosee--tobuildonthesetrendswithnewproductintroductionsthisfiscalyear.
Wealsocontinuetofocusonopportunitiesinmainstreampetfood,drivenbyconsumerpreferenceforadditionalproteinandnaturalingredients.Lastlywithinthesegment,weareexcitedaboutourpartnershipandplannedin-storeactivitiesrelatedtotheanimatedfilm,theSecretLifeofPetswhichwillbeintheatresnextmonth.
Turningtointernationalandfoodservice,wearepleasedwiththefullyearresultsdespitethesignificanttopandbottomlineimpactsofforeigncurrency.Reportednetsaleswereinlinewiththeprioryear,astheadditionofthepetfoodbusinessandthebenefitofhighernetpricinginCanadaoffseta$[60]milliontoplineimpactrelatedtoforeignexchange.Segmentprofitwasup12%,mostlyattributabletofoodservice.
TheintroductionofSmuckersUncrustablesintoschoollunchprogramscontributedtothisgrowth.ThestrongunderlyingperformanceofourCanadianbusinesswasmostlyoffsetbytheimpactofforeignexchange.
Letmeconcludewithanupdateonourintegrationandcostsavingsactivities.WesuccessfullyachievedourMarch1integrationmilestoneforthepetfoodbusiness,andrecognizedjustover$35millioninsynergiesfor2016.Inaddition,wehaveclearvisibilityandconfidenceinrealizinganincremental$100millioninsynergiesthisfiscalyear.
Intotal,thiswouldprovideapproximately$135millioninsynergiesfor2017.Lookingahead,weremainconfidentinachievingouroriginalgoalof$200millioninannualsynergiesbytheendofFY18.
Inadditiontothe$200millionofsynergies,wearetargeting$50millionofincrementalannualcostsavingstobefullyrealizedoverthenextfewyears.Relatedprojectsincludefurtheroptimizingourmanufacturingfootprint,asoverthenext18monthswewillcloseacoffeefacilityinHarahan,Louisiana,andtwoleasednaturalfoodsfacilitieslocatedinLivermore,California,withproductionbeingconsolidatedintoexistingoperations.Inaddition,wearenearlycompletewithanorganizationalredesignaimedatfurtheroptimizingcorporateresourcescontributingtothiscostsavingstarget.
Weexpecttoinitiallyinvestmuchoftheseincrementalsavingsinseveralidentifiedareas.Wewillcontinuetoprioritizeinvestmentsthatgeneratetopandbottomlinegrowthforkeyon-trendplatforms.InFY17,theseincludeopportunitiesrelatedtoSmuckersUncrustables,coffee,andsnacks.
Wearealsoestablishinganewgrowthinnovationorganization,whichisbeingledbyamemberofmyleadershipteam.Thegroupisbeingtaskedwithfurtherbuildingcapabilitiesrelatedtoconsumerandmarketinsights,digital,innovation,targetedmarketdevelopmentstrategiesforourcustomers,includingpricingandtradespendoptimization.Lastly,weplantoinvestinnewgrowthopportunitiestoexpandourpresenceinChina.
Inclosing,2016wasahistoricyearforourCompany,andIwouldliketothankouremployeesfortheirefforts.Asweenter2017,keyprioritiesincludeachievingoursynergygoals,buildingonourproduct
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innovations,activities,andinvestinginnewcapabilitiestoenhancefuturegrowth.Overall,weremainconfidentinourlong-termstrategy,thestrengthofourbrands,andourabilitytodelivershareholdervaluein2017andbeyond.
IwillnowturnthecallovertoMarkBelgya.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Thankyou,Mark.Goodmorning,everyone.
Iwillbeginbyprovidingcommentaryonourfourthquarterresults,followedby2016cashflowperformance,andendingwithour2017outlook.Weconcludedthefiscalyearwithstrongfourthquarterearnings.
Non-GAAPearningspersharewere$1.86forthequarter,includingaone-time$0.42persharenon-cashdeferredtaxbenefitrelatedtotheintegrationofBigHeartintotheSmuckerCompany,aswaspreviewedduringourthirdQuartercall.
Thisstrongfinishtotheyearwasmostlyattributabletocoffee,includinghigherthananticipatedvolumeacrossourmainstreamandpremiumcoffeebrands,andafavorablepricetocostrelationship.
Thecomparisonoffourthquarterearningsbetweenyearsissignificantlyimpactedbyone-timeitemsreportedineachoftherespectiveperiods.Theseincludethedeferredtaxbenefitinthecurrentyear,aswellastheBigHeartacquisition,andfinancingrelatedactivitiesintheprioryear.Asaresult,theremainderofmyfourthquartercommentarywillbefocusedonthebusinesssegment.
Beginningwithcoffee,fourthquarternetsalesgrew9%,asfavorablevolumemixof13%wasonlypartiallyoffsetbylowernetpricing.SalesfortheDunkin'Donutsbranddoubledovertheprioryear,withK-Cupsdrivingmuchofthisgrowth.Double-digitgainsforbaggedDunkin'Donutscoffeealsocontributed.FortheFolgersbrand,netsalesdeclined5%attributabletolowernetpricerealization.Andlastly,CafeBustelosaleswereup28%,asthemomentumforthisbrandcontinued.
Segmentprofitincreased$43millionor39%.Werecognizedlowergreencoffeecostsinthequarter,whichwerepartiallyoffsetbylowernetpricing.Inaddition,highervolumemixmorethanoffsetincreaseinmarketing.
Turningtoconsumerfoods,netsaleswereup5%excludingtheimpactofthecannedmilkdivestiture,withgainsacrossthemajorityofourkeybrands.SalesforJifgrew14%behindhighervolumeandnetpricing,whiletheSmuckersbrandwasup3%asUncrustableshadanotherstrongquarter.
Inthebakeaisle,salesforCriscoincreased6%drivenbyhighervolume.Andlastly,salesforthePillsburybrandwereupmodestly,ashigherpricerealizationoffsetvolumedecline.
Segmentprofitdeclined6%,mostlyattributabletolappingtheprioryearearningsofthedivestedmilkbusiness.Plannedincreasesinmanufacturingoverheadcostsalsocontributed,reflectingthenewpeanutbutterfacilityinMemphis,aswellasunderabsorbedoverheadcostsrelatedtoourworkingcapitalinitiatives.Thesefactorsoffsetlowermarketingexpense.
NetsalesforourUSretailpetfoodssegmentswere$[563]million.Weestimatethisrepresentsanapproximate3%increasecomparedtotheprioryearfourthquarter,ofwhichsixweekswerereportedunderourownership.Salesforourpremiumpetbrandsgrewlowdouble-digitsdrivenbyNaturalBalance,whilepetsnackssalesincreasedinlinewiththeoverallsegment.
Mainstreampetfoodssaleswereflatcomparedtotheprioryear,asgrowthinourcatfoodbrandsoffset
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declinesindogfood.Petfoodsegmentprofitwas$117millionforthequarter.Asexpected,werealizedasequentialincreaseinsegmentprofitmarginfrom17%inthethirdquarterto20.7%thisquarter,primarilyreflectinglowermarketingexpense.Incrementalsynergyrecognitionalsocontributed.
Netsalesforinternationalandfoodserviceincreased1%inthequarter,reflectingthehighervolumemixinfoodservice.InCanada,theadditionofpetfoodwasessentiallyoffsetbytheimpactofFX.Segmentprofitwasup8%overtheprioryeardrivenbyourfoodservicebusiness,partiallyoffsetbytheimpactofforeignexchangeinCanada.
Freecashflowwas$295millionforthequarter,bringingthe2016totalto$1.26billion.Theoutperformancecomparedtoourmostrecentfreecashflowguidanceof$975millionwasattributabletoexceedingour2016workingcapitalimprovementtarget,lowerthanprojectedCapExspending,afourthquartertaxrefundof$53millionwhichisseparatefromthedeferredtaxadjustmentimpactingearningsandhighernetincome.
Expandingonourworkingcapitalinitiatives,in2016werealizedthemajorityofourfinishedgoodsinventoryreductiongoalof$200million,nearlyayearaheadofschedule.In2017,weexpecttoachievetheremainderoftheinventoryreductiontarget,alongwithmodestworkingcapitalimprovementsrelatedtoaccountspayableandreceivables,allofwhicharefactoredintoour2017freecashflowoutlookIwilldiscussinamoment.
Weendedtheyearwithdebtof$5.4billion.Basedon2016EBITDAof$1.58billion,ourleveragestoodat3.4timesatApril30,areductionfrom4.1timesatthebeginningoftheyear.
Inadditiontoexceedingourdebtpaydowntargetfortheyear,wewereabletorestartsharerepurchaseactivities,aidedbythestrongfreecashflowandproceedsfromthedivestitureofthemilkbusiness.
Duringthefourthquarter,werepurchasednearly3%ofsharesoutstandingforapproximately$430million.In2017,thelowersharecountwilloffsettheEPSimpactoftheeightmonthsoflostprofitrelatedtothedivestedmilkbusiness.
Turningtoour2017outlook,weanticipatereportednetsalestodecreaseby1%comparedtotheprioryear,aswewilllapapproximately$150millionofsalesrelatedtothemilkdivestiture.Excludingthisimpact,netsalesareprojectedtobeup1%.Favorablevolumemixacrosseachofthesegments,includingthebenefitofnewproductsisexpectedtobemostlyoffsetbylowerpricinginUSretailcoffeeandFXinCanada.Approximately$25millionoftheincremental$100millionofsynergiesfor2017areexpectedtobenefitgrossprofit.
Overallcommoditycostsareanticipatedtobelower,however,ourCanadianbusinessisestimatingaCOGSheadwindof$20millionrelatedtoFX,ofwhichaportionisexpectedtobeoffset.Asaresult,weexpectgrossmargintoapproximate39%in2017.FurtherSG&Aexpensesareprojectedtobecomparabletotheprioryear.Thisreflectsthebenefitofincrementalsynergiesrelatedtoheadcountreductionsandotheradministrativecostsavings,offsetbyincreasedmarketinginsupportofrecentlylaunchedproducts,ourOlympicsponsorship,innovationandregulatoryexpenses.
We'reprojectingnon-GAAPoperatingincomegrowthof4%in2017,comparedto$1.465billionintheprioryear,whichexcludesamortization,andtheprioryeargainonsaleof$25million.Further,excludingthe$32millionofprofitinlastyear'soperatingincomerelatedtothedivestedmilkbusiness,thegrowthwouldbe6%.
Belowoperatingincome,weexpectnetinterestexpenseofapproximately$165millionandataxrateof34%.Andlastly,aweightedaveragesharecountof116.6millionshareswasusedbasedoncurrentsharesoutstanding.
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Factoringinallofthis,weareguiding2017adjustedEPSintherangeof$7.60to$7.75,whichexcludes$1.18pershareofestimatednon-cashamortization.Includingtheamortization,thisyieldsarangeof$6.42to$6.57comparedtoa2016baseof$6.Thisresultsinyear-over-yearincreasesrangingfrom7%to10%.
Asillustratedonthedocumentpostedonourwebsite,wederivethe$6.00EPSfor2016,bysubtractingthe$0.42deferredtaxadjustmentandthe$0.15milkgainfromourreportednon-GAAPEPSof$6.57.WeanticipatemuchoftheEPSgrowthfortheyeartobeweightedtowardthemiddletwoquartersofthefiscalyearduetocertainfactors.Lastyear'sfirstquarterincludedthelaunchofDunkin'K-Cups.
Alsowithincoffee,thisyear'sfirstquarterwillbeunfavorablyimpactedduetotimingassociatedwiththefullquarterimpactofthepricedecreasetakeninJulyof2015,alongwiththeadditionalpricedeclinetakeninMayofthisyearascomparedtotherecognitionoflowercosts.Otherfactorsimpactingquarterlycomparisonincludethetimingofsynergyrecognition,thetimingimpactrelatedtotradespendrecognitiononaquarterlybasis,andfinally,thefourthquartercomparisontothisyear'sstrongfourthquarterfinish.
Lookingbrieflyatthesegment,coffeeprofitsareprojectedtobecomparabletotherecordFY16levels.Forconsumerfoods,reportedsegmentprofitisexpectedtobedown,giventheprioryeargainonthemilkdivestitureandthelostmilkprofit,butupmidsingle-digitswhentheseitemsareexcluded.Petfoodsegmentprofitisalsoprojectedtobeupmidsingle-digits,reflectingincrementalsynergiesandorganicgrowthincludingthecontributionsofnewproducts.Andlastly,internationalandfoodserviceisanticipatedtobedown,primarilyreflectingnetimpactofFXinCanada.
Weprojectfreecashflowwillapproximate$1billion,fromwhichweplantopaydowndebt,andfurtherreduceleverageto3.1timesbytheendofthisfiscalyear.Thisassumesprojected2017EBITDAof$(1.6)billion.Additionalassumptionsrelatedto2017includeamortizationexpenseofnearly$210million,depreciationof$215million,share-basedcompensationexpenseof$35million,capitalexpendituresof$240million,andlastly,one-timecostsof$100millionwhicharemostlycash-related.
Inclosing,weareverypleasedwithouroverallperformancein2016,asitmarkedamemorableyearinourCompany'shistory.Itiswiththismomentumandexcitementthatwelookforwardtoexecutingourplansfor2017,asweremainfocusedondeliveringcontinuedgrowth.
Wethankyouforyourtime,andwewillnowopenupthecallforyourquestions.
Operator,ifyouwouldpleasequeueupthefirstquestion?
QUESTIONS&ANSWERS
Operator :
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AndrewLazarwithBarclays.
AndrewLazar (Analyst-BarclaysCapital):
Goodmorning,everybody.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Goodmorning,Andrew.
AndrewLazar (Analyst-BarclaysCapital):
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Aquickoneforme,inthinkingabouttheunderlyingEPSgrowthguidanceforFY17,asyoupointedoutit'sroughly7%to10%orso.AndyoutalkedaboutbaseEPSgrowthinthe10%range,Ithinkfor2017and2018.SoI'mjusttryingtogetasenseofwhatleadstothat8%atthemidpointtypeofgrowthrange?
Isitjustconservatism,isitcoffeeoutperformedprettydramaticallythisyear,andthereforeweneedtojusttailorthatalittlebitinourexpectationsfor2017,orthingsthatIhaven'tmentioned?
Justtryingtoputthatinperspective.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Hey,Andrew.ThisisMarkBelgya.Thanksforthequestion.
WhatIwouldsayis,Mark,andIthinkwereiterated,wewilldeliverthe$100millioninsynergies.Wehaveaclearlineofsightonthat.Wherewelandinthat8%is,wearehavingasignificantincreaseinmarketingspendforthecomingyear,obviouslywiththesponsorshipoftheOlympics,andreestablishingsomeofthemarketingspendfromthisyear.Sothatisthebiggestdriver.
Ithinkintermsofthecoffee,Iwouldputthatmoreinthecategoryofwherewemightlandintherange.Obviously,wedidhaveastrongyear,andweneedthingstocontinue.Wefeelgoodaboutthat,butthat'sprobablyafactorthatcomesintoplayalittlebit,aswell.AndthentheotheroneprobablytoalesserdegreeisjusttheFXimpact.AsImentioned,we'rehavingabouta$20millionheadwind,andwehopetocoveratleasthalfofthat,butthere'salittlebitofthateffectin,aswell.
AndrewLazar (Analyst-BarclaysCapital):
Gotit.Thanksforthat.Andthenjustaveryquickone.
Inoticeddistributionexpense,Ithinkasapercentofsaleswasmuchlowerthanitistypicallyisthisquarter.Justtryingtogetasenseofwhythatis,andisthatamoresustainablelevel?
Thankyou.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Andrew,whatthatmightbeiswearealigningtheBigHeart--basicallytheBigHeartP&Lwherecertainthingsfallin,coststhatprobablywereconsidereddistribution,mighthavejustbeenmoved.Butwecanfollow-up,ifthere'ssomethingsignificantlydifferentfromthatresponse.
AndrewLazar (Analyst-BarclaysCapital):
Thankyou.
Operator :
DavidDriscollwithCitigroup.
DavidDriscoll(Analyst-Citigroup):
Great,thankyou,andgoodmorning.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Goodmorning.
DavidDriscoll(Analyst-Citigroup):
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Richard,congratulationsonyourretirement,andMarkwhatabigday.Congratulationshereforyou.AndIguess,itwasMay1,butforusitfeelsliketoday.Socongratulations,andVince,allthebest.
VinceByrd (ViceChairman):
Thankyou.
DavidDriscoll(Analyst-Citigroup):
Iwantedtoaskafollow-uponAndrew'squestionontheguidance.
SoMarkadifferentwaytolookatthiswouldbetosaythat$100millionofsynergies--Ithinkthatnumberalonegetsyousomethinglike$0.57ashareinincrementalEPSbenefitin2017.Andthatgetsyoutokindofthetopendoftherange.Somaybecouldyoutrytoanswerjustslightlydifferently,andjustsaythatifsynergiesgetsyoujusttothetopendoftherange,doesn'titsuggestthattherestoftheoperationsarereallyonbalanceflattish?
Iknowthere'sasharecountbenefit,there'samilk.There'smilkdilutionthatgoesoninthere.Butitstilljustseemsliketheunderlyingexpectationofthecoreexthesynergiesisbasicallyflat.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Yes,David,it'sinterestingbecausewe'veobviouslywentthroughthatsamelineofthought.AndthewayIwoulddescribeitis,thatyou'reexactlyright,the$100millionisa$0.57delivery.Themarketincrease,Iwilltellyou,isasignificantincreasethere.Weareupsowefeelverycomfortabletobeabletoinvestwithmarketingdollarsbackinthebusiness.Sothere'salittlebitofadiscussionhereonwhetherornotthebusinessisflatfromaperformanceperspective,orit'sflatbecausewe'veinvestedinthemarketing.Wewouldchoosethelatter,sayingthattheMarketingincreaseisoffsettingsomeofthattosomedegree.
Theotherthingis,IthinkMarksuggestedinhisscriptedcommentsisthatwearealsoinvestingininnovationandgrowth,andalsoinChina.So,obviouslythosedollarsareembeddedinthebusinessportionofitwhenyoujustseparateitbetweensynergyandnon-synergy.Soyoucandrawtheconclusionthatitiscomingfromthebusiness.Butthosearethetwoorthreefactorsmarketing,innovationandinvestmentinChina,andalittlebitofFXasImentionedthatarereallybringingthatnumberbackdown.
DavidDriscoll(Analyst-Citigroup):
Okay,andformysecondquestion,oncoffee,backatyourAnalystDay,andIbelieveStevehadsaiditwillbeuntillike2019beforetheCompanyrecoveredtheprofitabilityseenin2014.Ithinkasoftoday,you'vealreadyrecoveredtheprofits.Sothere'stwosubtlequestionsinhere.Whydidthisoutperformsomuchrelativetotheexpectation?AndthenwhatIreallycareabout,ishowdoesthisimpactgoingforward?
Imean,youhadaverydifferentoutlookonhowprofitsweregoingtomoveinthisbusiness.I'mnotcomplainingbytheway,thisisreallywonderfultheprofitsareupsomuch.ButIthinkweallthenworry,thatthemassiveoutperformanceincoffeeprofitsin2016,willsomehowretardtheabilityofprofitstogrowin2017.Wasthatclear?
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
IthinkitisDavid.Hi,SteveOakland.
Let'stalkaboutthecoffeebusinessbriefly.Ifyouthinkaboutthenumbers,wedidgetthereayearortwoaheadofwhatweguided,right?Andwegotthereontwothings,really.Andthemostobviousoneisthis,
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thelaunchofDunkin'Kcups,andweallknowthatwasoneofthebestlaunchesinconsumerproductsinthelastfiveyears,right?Sothatwasawonderfulperformance.
Butreallymoreimportantly,financiallyifyoulookattheperformanceofourcoreredcanbusiness,andthat'saneffortthatstartedtwoyearsago.Imean,intheyearthatwestruggledinourcoffeebusiness,Markandhisteamwentbackanddidthedownsize,andstartedthoseprocesses.
Andthenwehadanopportunityinthislastyeartogetcoffeepricingright,tohavebothamanufacturingandahedgingstrategy,togetthisthing--togetittopricepointsthatbothexcitedtheretailerandconsumer.Andtheretailerisakeypieceofthis.You'vegottogetthatmerchandisingsupport.Sowe'rereallypleasedwithwherewearethere.
Ithinkyousaw--I'msureyousawthere,ourpressreleaseonpricingthatwejusttook.Sowithallofthatbehindus,wefeelprettycomfortablethatwecanrepeatthatperformance.Andtoyourcommentearlier,thatwillberepeatingarecordperformance.Weactuallybeatthe2014numberthisyear,right?
SoonourredcanandcorebusinessandDunkin'business,ourDunkin'K-Cupbusiness,wefeelreallygood.Lostinthat,though,thisyear,wasthetwosegmentsthatdidn'tperformancewellaswewantedto,andthat'sourbusinessinpremiumandourlegacyK-Cup,ourFolgersK-Cupbusiness.Sowhatweintendtodothisyearisdothesamethingstothose.Andso,thepricing,weleanedinearlyontheDunkin'bagbusiness.Yousawsomeofthatperformanceinthefourthquarter.Wefeelgreataboutthatgoingintothisquarter.Soweneedtoputourselvesbackonpremiumgrowthmomentum.
Wewillinvesttodothat,andweneedtomakesureastheK-Cupsegmentshakesoutanditwillshakeout.Imean,there'ssomanynewitems,there'ssomuchgoingonthere,thatvelocitiesonourcorelegacyitemsarestrong.Andweinvestedrightattheendofthequarterinthat,aswell.SoI'msayingwefeelcomfortablewecanrepeattherecordresultsinredcan.TheDuncanK-Cupbusinesswillbeverysolidthisyear.
Andthen,withwhatwehaveextraonthere,we'regoingtoinvestinthoseothertwosegments.SoIwouldhopewecomeoutofthecoffeebusinessfiringonallcylinders,versusfiringonjustthosetwobigones…
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RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Hey,David,thisisRichardSmucker.
Twoquickcomments.Onefroma50,000squarefootlevel,our--70%to80%ofourbusinesshasreallygoodmomentum,andwe'refiringonalleightcylinders.We'reusingthatopportunitytomake,asMarksaid,investmentsinourbusinessforthefuture,notjustfornextyearbutbeyond,andthisgivesustheopportunitytodothat.We'renotmakingthesenumbersbycuttingmarginexpenses,anditgivesustheopportunitytoinvestbackinthesebusinesses.Andso,andthesebrands.SoIthinkyouneedtolookatitfromthathighlevel.Wedo,andthat'sdrivingalotofourbusiness.It'salsopositioninguswellforgrowthinthefuture,notjustinnextyearbutbeyond.
Andthenfinally,Idon'tlikethewordretirement,soIjustwanttoletyouknowthat(laughter).Iamnotretiring.I'mjustmovingtoadifferentrole.Andmostofthefamily'seggsareinonenest,andwe'rewatchingthatnestverycarefully,so--
DavidDriscoll(Analyst-Citigroup):
Richard,thatwasawonderfulcomment,andwecertainlydon'twantyougoinganywhere.Thanks.Ireally
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appreciatetheanswers.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Allright.
Operator :
ChrisGrowewithStifelNicolaus.
ChrisGrowe (Analyst-StifelNicolaus):
Hi,goodmorning.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Goodmorning
ChrisGrowe (Analyst-StifelNicolaus):
Ijustwanttoask,firstifIcould,pleaseoncoffee.JustunderstandwiththelistpricedeclineandhavingreachedsomeofthesepromotedpricepointsinFY16,asinputcostscamedown,I'mjusttryingtounderstandwhycoffeeprofitswouldn'tbestrongerintheyearthantheflatexpectation?
Andalsorelatedtothat,wouldtheybestrongerinfirsthalforperhapsmorechallengedinthesecondhalfasyoustarttolapsomeofthat?Justcuriousifyoucouldgivehelponthephasingthere,ifthatwouldbeafactorforourmodels?
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Okay,Iwillstartthat,Chris,SteveOakland,andthenmaybeMarkcanhelpmeonhowwelookattheseasonalityoftheprofits.Ifyougobacktothefourthquarterof2014,whencoffeepriceshitlike$2.20apound,right,arabica.Andthenwesawitcomedownbasically$1apoundoverthattime.It'sbumpedupinthelastdayorsoalittlebit.Butifyouthinkaboutthat,thefastestmostefficientwaytogetthatpricingtotheconsumerwaswithtrade.Okay?Wecanimpactshelfpriceonapromotedperiodimmediatelywithtrade,okay?
ChrisGrowe (Analyst-StifelNicolaus):
Yes.
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Sointheshort-term,that'sveryefficient.Inthelong-term,it'sveryinefficient,becauseitpromotesallkindsofbuyin,loadit,andallthisinefficiencyinthesystem,right?Sooverthelastyear,we'vetakenacoupleoflistpricedeclinestomitigatethat,tomakethepromotionalallowanceless.Soweleanedintocurrentcoffeepricingonourpromotionalpricepoints.
Andnowthishasallowedustodrainthatout,getabetterlistpricetopromotedpriceratio,sothatoureverydaypricesgetbetter,andwemaintainthecurrentprice.Sowetriedtomakethatclearinthereleasethatwedid,togivealittlemoreclarityonthatthistime.Sothatthecostshavebeenreflectedintotalcoffeepricing.Thisdoes,Ithink,makeit,overthelongterminamoreefficientmannerso--
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Theotherthing,thisisMarkSmucker.
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TheonlyotherthingIwouldaddSteve,isthatjustfromacommoditystandpoint,ifyoujustlookatthetrendsoncoffeecosts,thedeclinethatwe'veexperiencedhasgoneonforoh,9months,atleast12months.Soyouhaveseenthisveryconsistentsustainedlowercoffeecostandthathasallowedustobehaveproperly,orresponsiblyifyouwill,becausewehavehadconsistencyinourunderlyingcoststructure.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Andthen,Chris,thisisMarkBelgya.
Justintermsofsortofseasonalityifyouwillofyourquestion.Wearegoingtobelappinglastyear'sfirstquarterpricingmove.AndasStevementioned,wehadthisyearpricedecline,sowehadthefulleffectofbasicallytwopricedeclines.Sowhilethecostsarecertainlygoingtobelowerthantheywereayearago,thepricedeclinesalongwiththewaysomeofthetradewillhitthroughthequarters,willprobablynegativelyimpactthefirstquarter.Andthenobviously,balanceitselfoutthroughtherestoftheyear.
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Right.Andthen,that'sreallyhowthosethingshit,notthevolumes.Wefeelgoodaboutwherethesell-throughandvolumenumbersare.Butjusthowthepricinghitsversusayearago,andhowwerecognizetradeinthoseperiodsmaysoftenthefirstquarteralittlebit.
ChrisGrowe (Analyst-StifelNicolaus):
Okay.That'sagoodthoroughanswer.Thankyouforthat.
AndIhadjustonequickfollow-upifIcould,withoutEricKatzmanonthecall,someonehastoaskaboutfreecashflow(laughter).SoIdidwanttoask,ifyoujusttoconsider,reallyforMarkBelgyathe$1billionversusthe$1.25billion,obviously,itsoundslikethemajorityworkingcapitalbenefitscamethroughinFY16withsomestillinFY17
Isthatthemainreasonforcashflowbeingdown?ItalsolookslikeCapExisgoingtobeupalittlebityear-over-year.Justtryingtogetasenseofwhatcouldbedraggingdownthecashflow,overandabovetheworkingcapitaleffect?
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Yes,Chris,thatistheprimary--thatwasprobably$100millionofit.Andthentheotherbigthingwehadthisyear,isweactuallyhadtwosignificantsizetaxrefundsthatwere,whatI'llcallone-time,thatwereprobablyroughly$100million,aswell.Sothosewouldcomeout,ifthatgivesyoubacktothebilliondollarsversusthisyear.
ChrisGrowe (Analyst-StifelNicolaus):
Okay,that'sgreat.Thankyou.
Operator :
KenGoldmanwithJPMorgan.
KenGoldman (Analyst-JPMorgan):
Hi,goodmorning.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
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Goodmorning,Ken.
KenGoldman (Analyst-JPMorgan):
Richard,Ithinkitwasyoumentionedcoffeetickingupthelastfewdays,butatleastaswelookatthecharts,RobustaandArabicareachupmaybe20%offtheirrecentlows.SoI'mjustcuriouscanyoutalkaboutoranyonereallytalkaboutwhatyou'reseeinginthecoffeecommoditymarket,whetheryouthinkthesecurrentpricesarereasonable,givencurrentsupplydemanddynamicsandwhatyouroutlookisfromhere?
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Yes,Ken,actually,IthinkStevegavethatcomment.
KenGoldman (Analyst-JPMorgan):
Sorry…
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SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Ken,therecentrunup,there'salwaysvolatilityinthecoffeebusiness.WearefortunatetohaveteamsonthegroundandofficesinboththetwolargestmarketsofBrazilandVietnam.Andsoagain,thecoffeeisrelativetowherewe'repricedto,relativetowherewe'repromotedto.Andthenifwelook,ifourteamsonthegroundinthosemarketslookatthecoffeecrop,there'sbeensomeweathernoiseinthelastdayortwothathavedrivenitup.
Butitdoesappear,Ithinkouropinionis,there'sgoingtobeagreaterArabicacropthisyear.Andsowethinkthatcoffeewilltradeinapricerangethatsupportswherewearepriced,betweenourpositionandouropinion.Thegoodthingaboutthisbusinessiswehavepricingcapabilitieshere.Andnotonlydowehavegoodcoverage,butwehavetheabilitytomovepriceshouldweneedto.SowefeelprettygoodabouttheArabicacropasitgoesforward.Robustamightbealittletighter,butwethinktheArabicacropisgoingtobeabigoneandpricingshouldbereasonable.
KenGoldman (Analyst-JPMorgan):
Okay,that'shelpful.
Andthenmynextquestion,the$50millioninadditionalefficienciesoverthenextfewyears,franklythat'salittlebitofasmalleramountthanwhatIhadexpected.It'salittlebitsmaller,atleastonapercentageofsalesas,fromwhatyourpackagedfoodpeershavecomeupwith.So,Irealizeyou'realreadyleaninsomeareas,headcountandsoforth.Butaswelookatthis,what'sholdingthisnumberbackfrombeingashighaswhatwe'veseen,whatyou'veseen,whatAccenture'sseen,right,fromsomeofyourotherfoodmanufacturingpeersoutthere?
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Ken,thisisMarkSmucker,andthanksforthequestion.
I'llstart,thenifanybodyelsewantstochimein.Soacouplethings.Asyouknow,asyouthinkaboutourperformancehistorically,it'sbeenverygood,andwehavehadhistoricallyaverystrongcostdisciplineinmultipleareasofourbusiness.Partofwhatwe'veembarkedonwhichreallywas,thecatalystwastheBigHeartacquisition,wastothinkalittlebitdeeperaboutouroverallcostsavingsinitiatives,andhowwemightmaybedoalittlebitbetter.Youareright,thatourproductivitymeasuresversusourpeersare
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probablybetterinmanycases,andwearegenerallyleanerIwouldsaythansomeofourpeers.
Buthavingsaidthat,wehaveanobligation,obviously,toourshareholderstomakesurethatwehavethebestcostdisciplinethatwecanhave.Andso,whatwe'vebeendoing,andthisispartoftheexplanationofthe$50million,isonanongoingbasis,makingsurefromacontinuousimprovementthatwehavethedisciplineinoursupplychain,ouroperations,ourpurchasingandlongertermaswethinkabouthowdowegetmoreefficientintrade,allofthosethingsshouldhelpdrive,whatIwouldcallsomeincrementalsavingstothebottomline.
Soitisn't--wedon'tthinkaboutitastheone-timebenefit,butwearecomfortablethatwecanatleastdeliverthat.Andthenbeyondthesenextcoupleyears,weshouldbeabletocontinuetodeliverannualcostsavingsobjectives,whichweholdourteamsto.
Thegoodnewsaboutthat,isitisasRichardmentioned,itisallowingustoinvestinenhancedcapabilities.Andataveryhighlevelwhatthosecapabilitiesarefocusedonisgettingbetteratengagingwithourconsumerandgettingbetteratengagingwithourretailcustomers.Andsostrategically,havingtherightbalancebetweenourleadingnumberonebrands,whicharereallytheenginethatfuelsourgrowth,aswellashavingtherightemergingbrandsinourportfolio,ispartofthatstrategy.Andsomakingsurethatwehavedollarsthatcanfundthoseenhancedcapabilities,bothinconsumerengagementandcustomerengagementisreallygoingtohelpdriveourgrowthbothtopandbottomlinelong-term.
KenGoldman (Analyst-JPMorgan):
Thankyouverymuch.
Operator :
JasonEnglishwithGoldmanSachs.
JasonEnglish (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Hey,goodmorning,folks.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Goodmorning.
JasonEnglish (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Congratulations.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Thankyou.
JasonEnglish (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Iwantedtostickwithcoffeeforaminute.Youmentionedinyourpreparedremarks,moderationintermsofcompetitiveactivity.Iwashopingyoucouldexpoundonthatalittlebitmore,intermsofwhereyou'reseeingthemoderation?
Andthenalsoaspartofyourpreparedremarks,youtalkedaboutsharpeningpricepointsonsomeofyourbusinesses,IthinkyoumentionedtheFolgersK-Cups,Dunkin'.Howdoweputthosetwointermsofmoderationandcompetitiveactivity,juxtaposedwithwhatsoundslikeabitmorecompetitiveactivitycomingfromyou?
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SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Jason,hi,SteveOakland.I'lltrytotouchonthat.
Ithinkit'sdifficulttopaintthecoffeecategorywithonebrushcompetitively.Ithinkthepreparedremarksprobablywerefocusedmoreonourmainstreamredcanbusiness,right?AndIdothinkwe'veseenwiththeArabicafalling,withthecoffeepricesfallingwheretheyare,wehavefoundthatpricepointshavegottendownintothoseranges,whereitmotivatesboththecompetitorandtheconsumerandthecustomer,right?Soallofusareinpricepointsthatreallywork,okay?Andso,we'rebackinthatzoneandIthinkeverybodyisoperatinginthatzone.
NowhavingsaidthatIwouldarguethatthepremiumsegmentwasthemostcompetitivewe'veeverseenitlastyear.Andso,theDunkin'bagbusinessasyouknow,earlierintheyearhadacoupleoftoughquarters,andwe'vetalkedabouthowweleanedintothatinthefourthquarter.Premiumgreen,it'sanotherremnantforawholeotherdiscussion,butgreencoffeeisnotallthesame.Thecoffeethatgoesintoalotofpremiumcoffeeshasamuchlongersupplychain.Youmightexpectlower--coffeecoststoimpactusatdifferenttimingbasedonthetypeofgreenthatitis.
Sointhefourthquarterthat,wewereinapositiontosupportthat,wedidandithasresponded.Soifyouthinkaboutitthecoreredcanpricinghadmoderated,thecompetitivesethadmoderated.Thepremiumbusinessprobablyisinthatspacenow.AndthelastpiecewillbeK-Cups,andwe'regoingtoleanintoK-Cups.TheproliferationofK-Cupshascausedthatwholesegmenttobecompetingforaslowergrowthbase.Andoneoftheleversthat'sbeenusedinthereisprice.We'reablenowtocompeteinthatarea.Sothat'sfor,maybethelastpieceofthepuzzle,andwefeelgoodabouttheplanweputinfrontofyoutoday,willgiveusthedollarstosupportthat,andreturnthatbusinesstogrowth.
JasonEnglish (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Gotit.That'sreallyhelpful.Thankyouforthat.Onemorequestion,thenI'llpassiton.Iwantedtoswitchgears,andtalkaboutpetrealquick.
First,the--whatwasroughly3%oftheorganicsalesgrowth;ifpossiblecouldyougiveusabreakonvolumeorpriceforthequarter?Andthenyourexpectationoforganicgrowthaswegointonextyear,anycolorintermsofwhatyou'reexpectingbetweenpremium,snack,andmainstreamwouldbereallyhelpful.Thankyou.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Jason,thisisMarkBelgya.
Regardingthefirstpartofthatquestion,unfortunately,becauselastyear'sfourthquarterwassplitownership,thatbreakdownisn'tquiteaseasyasitmightsoundtobe.Iwilltellyouthough,nowthatwe'reallonthesamesystemasofMarch1.AndobviouslyinFY17,we'llhavethatfulllineofanalysisforallbusinesses.SoBarry,Idon'tknowifyoucanaddanything,butfromjusttheabsolutenumbers,Ithinkthat'sprobablythecase.
BarryDunaway(President,PetFoodandPetSnacks):
Ithinkyou,thecoloryouprovidedMark,isthebestwecandoatthispoint.JusttoaddJason,asfarasourgrowthexpectationsfornextyear,asyouknowoursnackbusinesshastremendousmomentumbehindit.
Soweexpectoursnackbusinesstobeatthehighsingle-digitgrowthnextfiscalyear,specificallywithourMilk-BoneandPup-Peronibrands.Onthepetspecialtysideofthebusiness,we'relappingtheexpandeddistributionlastyearinthepetspecialtychannel.Butwewouldexpectmidsingle-digitgrowth
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thiscomingyear,aswewilllaunchanationaladvertisingcampaignbehindtheNaturalBalancebrand.
Wealso,therearetwomajorretailersinpetspecialty,butthere'salsosignificantamountofsalesthatmovethroughtheindependenttrade.WehaveapushbehindourNature'sRecipebrand.Wethinkthere'ssomerealopportunitiesthere.That'sourgatewayspecialtybrand,soweseesomegrowththere.Andthenalso,oursnacksplayasignificantroleinpetspecialty.Soourwidelydistributedbrands,alsothere'stremendousgrowthopportunitythere.
Foodisgoingtobethelowergrowththisyear,asfarastheportfolioisconcerned.Youknowwhatourchallengeswerethispastyear,specificallywithKibbles'nBits.Weareencouragedthatwe'veactuallyseennegativeconsumptiontrendsstarttodecelerateattheendofthislastfiscalyear.We'veputsomebonusbagsintothemarket.You'regoingtoseemoreofthosegoingintomarketinJune.Soalotofeffortstabilizingourdrydogfoodbusiness,andtryingto--justgetthatbusinessbackwhereitneedstobe.Sothatprovidethecoloryouwerelookingfor?
JasonEnglish (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Yes,veryhelpful.Thankyouverymuch,gentlemen.I'llpassiton.
Operator :
AlexiaHowardwithBernstein.
AlexiaHoward (Analyst-SanfordC.Bernstein&Co):
Goodmorning,everyone.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Goodmorning.
AlexiaHoward (Analyst-SanfordC.Bernstein&Co):
Hi,soacoupleofquestionsaboutyoure-commercestrategyinChinainvestments.Youstartedtalkingaboutthee-commercestrategyattheInvestorDaylastyear.Areyouabletodimensionalizehowbigthatisforyouasofnow;howfastitgrewlastyear?Ipresumethekeycategoriesinthereareprobablycoffeeandpetfood.Whichoneofthoseisbigger?Wouldjustliketohearcoloronthat,becausewedon'tseethatinthemeasuredchannels.AndthenyoumentionedChinainvestments.Canyoujustgiveusalittlebitofcoloronhowmuchspendingovertherenow,whatthestrategyisovertime?
Thankyou,andI'llpassiton.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Alexia,thisisMarkSmucker.I'llstart.
Thefirst,yourfirstquestionjustasitrelatestoe-commerceisthatyou'reright.Weare,Iwouldsaywe'realittlebitunderdevelopedversusourpeersinthatspace.Andso,asItalkedtoKen'squestionearlier,relativetoinvestmentsandwhatwe'retryingtoampup,thatisoneofthosethings.Andso,nottogetintotoomuchspecifics,butaswethinkabout--weactuallyhavejustreorganizedsomeofourcommercialfunctions,thatwouldincludesalesandsomeofourmarketingareas.
Butalsointhedigitalspace,wehaveactuallybeefedupourcapabilitiesthere,andarecurrentlyinprocessofreevaluatingourtotale-commercestrategy,inhowwebetterserveoure-commercecustomers.Andwhenwethinkaboute-commerce,thatincludesboththedigital-onlyretailerslike
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Amazon,aswellasourbrick-and-mortarcustomersthathaveasignificantonlinepresence,aswell.Soalittlebitofageneralanswer,butsufficeittosaythatitisonourradarscreen,anditisapriorityforustocontinuetodevelopthatbusiness.
AlexiaHoward (Analyst-SanfordC.Bernstein&Co):
AndthenonChina?
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
OnChina,Ithinkyouasked?Sojustintermsofthefinancialimpact,Iwouldsaythatit'sabout$0.03to$0.05forthecurrentyearinFY17.
AlexiaHoward (Analyst-SanfordC.Bernstein&Co):
Andthen,anycoloronexactlywhat'shappeningoutthere,aftertheinitialforayoutthereafewyearsago?
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Yes,Alexia,it'sstillalittlebitearlyforus,Ithink,tobegivingtoomanydetailsinthatarea.We'vetalkedaboutthefactthatwehavehadaminorityinvestmentinanoats--inanoatmealbusinessthere,andthatbusinesshascontinuedtogrowyear-over-year.Andso,we'vebeenpleasedwiththatminorityinvestment.Asitrelatestootherthings,Ithinkit'salittlebitearlyforustogiveanyspecifics.
AlexiaHoward (Analyst-SanfordC.Bernstein&Co):
Okay,thankyouverymuch.I'llpassiton.
Operator :
MarioContreraswithDeutscheBank.
MarioContreras (Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Hi,goodmorning.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Hey,Mario.
MarioContreras (Analyst-DeutscheBank):
SoIwantedtogobacktoyourcommentsfromAnalystDaylastyearwithrespecttocoffee.SomeofthecautionaroundgettingbacktoFY14coffeeEBITlevelsnotuntil2019.
SomeofthereasonforthatwasrelatedtoinvestmentaroundthePerfectMeasures.So,obviouslyyou'vealreadyachievedthatgoalofgettingtotheproperrecovery,butwantedtounderstandhowtheinvestmentisgoinginPerfectMeasures,isthatstillamajorfocuspointforyou?
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Hi,Mario.
WithregardtoPerfectMeasures,Ithinkwestillthinkithasthepotential,andstillfeelsogreataboutit.I'lltellyouthereasonyouputthingsinleadmarketsorintestmarketsistolearn,andwelearnedalot.Andourtrialnumberscandidly,werenotwhatweneededthemtobe,butourrepeatnumberswerefantastic.
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Andso,ittellsusthatwe'veprobablygotthepositioningalittlewrong.We'veprobablygotsomeoftheinitialcommunicationalittlewrong,butwegottheconceptright.
Andsothisyear,we'regoingtorelaunchthatwithalittlebetterpackaging,littlebettermessaging.Andwe'regoingto--it'saheavycapitalinvestment,becausethetechnologyisuniqueandwewanttomakesurewegetitjustrightbeforeweleanintoitonamorenationalscale.Westillthinktheconcepthasalotoflegs,butwe'reprobablyayearbehindwherewehopedtobeatthispoint.
ThoseinvestmentnumbersarebakedintothenumbersintheguidancethatMarkgaveearlier,socontinuedinvestmentinthat.Okay.Andthen,ithadbeenmentionedacoupletimesthatincreasedmarketingspendingandadvertisingisincludedintheguidanceforthisyear.Isthereanywayyoucanquantifyroughlywhatthat'sgoingtobe,intermsofyourdollarorpercentincrease?
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Yes,it'sgoingtobeuphighsingle-digits,whichequatestoabout$40million.
MarioContreras (Analyst-DeutscheBank):
Okay.Thankyouverymuch.
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PabloZuanicwithSIG.
PabloZuanic (Analyst-SIG):
Goodmorning,everyone.
Look,acoupleofquestionsoncoffeeforSteve,andthenIhaveafollow-uponpetfood.Steve,soStarbucks,HowardSchultzthereinJanuary,hetalkedabout,prettymuchimplied,threatenedtowalkawayfromaKeurigJAB.AndthenintheAprilcall,hecameoutandsaid,atleastthreeorfourtimesintheconferencecall,thattheyhavebeenabletorenegotiateterms,atveryfavorabletermswithKeurig.Andthatthosetermsgavethemalsomoreflexibility.SoI'mwonderinghere,ifStarbuckscandothatwithJAB,whycan'tSmuckers?Soifyoucancommentonthat.I'mjustsurprisedtheywereabletorenegotiateterms,nowtherewasachangeinownershipthere,andapparentlyyouhaven't.
Andrelatedtothat,IunderstandtheideaofsharpeningpricepointsforFolgersandK-Cups.Thecategoryhasbeensticky,ofcourse,whilegroundmovesquiteabit.Butasyoudothat,IwouldexpectothercompetitorstoalsocutpricesintheirK-Cupbrands.AndthenK-Cupsasacategorywillbecomenotsticky,butpassthroughasground.
SoIseeabitofariskthere.Ifyoucancommentonthat,please?Thanks.
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Sure.Iguess,Iwouldn'tassume,Iwouldn'ttaketheassumptionthatour--thatwehaven'tdonethesamekindofworkonourK-CupcontractinourrelationshipwithJAB,becausewehavealegacyrelationshipwithJAB,fromtheSaraLeeacquisitionseveralyearsago,andnowfromtheKeurigremount.
Sothefactthatmaybewe'realittlelesspublicaboutsomeofthatstuff,Iwouldn'tassumethatthesamethingsaren'tgoingon.Sojustdifferentcompaniesmanagethosethingsdifferently,right?Sothatprocessisinprocess,andwefeelgoodaboutthatrelationship.Theyarecommittedtohavethemajorbrandsinthecategoryintheirsystems,andwereadthesamethingsyouread.Soourassumptionsaregoingintothenegotiations,ourassumptionsaresimilartoyours.Sowefeelfinethere.
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AndwithregardtoK-Cups,ifyoudigalittledeeperintotheIRIandNielsendata,you'llseethatK-Cupsalthoughwedon'tpassthroughgreen,becausegreenisasmallportionoftheoverallcoststructure,it'sbecomemaybethemostpromotedcategoryintotalcoffee.So,thatit'sthehighestrelying--eachoneofthebrandsreliesveryheavilyonpromotion.SomaybeI'mnotclearenoughwhenItalkaboutleaningin,we'veleanedinonourpromotionalpricepointmostly.
Andso,thosepromotionalpricepointsarebasicallydown$1aboxfromwheretheyusedtobe.It'sstillaveryprofitablebusiness,butthatmigration,thattrainhasalreadyleft.Sowearewhereweare.Wemighthavebeenalittlelatetofollow,becauseofthemomentumwehadfromtheDunkin'business.
PabloZuanic (Analyst-SIG):
Understood.Andjustaquickfollow-upthere.SoyourK-Cupmarginswouldbelowerthanyourgroundcoffeemargins,right?
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Yes,alittlebit.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Yes,alittlebit.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Ourgroundcoffeemarginsareobviously,becauseofourscalevery,verygood.AndourK-Cupmarginsarealthoughgood,byconsumerproductsstandards,byCompanystandardsaren'tquiteatthatlevel.
PabloZuanic (Analyst-SIG):
Thankyou.Andthenjustafollow-uponpetfood.
Iguess,it'sbeentoucheduponalready,butcanyoutelluswheredidthemixend--afterthedeclineindrydoganddogsandsnacksandspecialty,ifyoucanjustgiveus,what'sthemix,andarunrateatthemoment?Andrelatedtothat,ifyoucanalsocommentonthechannelmix?Becausewetendtothinkthatsnacksandspecialtyproductsaremostlyinthespecialtychannel,butjustreminduswhereyouare?
IfI'mlookingtheFDMdatafromIRIorNielsen,whatpercentageofyourpetfoodbusinessisthat,andwhereareyouinspecialty?Ifyoucanprovidethatroughlyonacurrentrunrate,knowwhatitwasonaveragein2016?Thanks.
BarryDunaway(President,PetFoodandPetSnacks):
Soyou'relookingforthechannelmix--Iwanttomakesureweunderstandthequestion.
PabloZuanic (Analyst-SIG):
Right…
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BarryDunaway(President,PetFoodandPetSnacks):
Areyoulookingforthechannel?
PabloZuanic (Analyst-SIG):
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Well,I'maskingtwodifferentquestionsonpetfood,right?Becauseobviously,youexplainedthatsnacksandspecialtyaredoingwellintermsofnaturalorganicbrands,andNaturalBalanceandtheotherbrandsaredoingwell,anddryisnotdoingsowell.SoI'mjusttryingtounderstand,wheredidthesalesmixendintermsofproductsinFY16?
Andthen,it'saseparatequestion,iswhatisthechannelmix,right?Becausesomeofus--drydogissoldinthespecialtychannel,right,andsnacksaresoldinboth.YourNaturalBalancebrandisonlysoldinspecialty,Iunderstandthat.ButI'mjusttryingtogetabitmorecolor,intermsofwhatyourcurrentproductmix,andseparate,what'syourcurrentchannelmix,ifyoucanprovidethat?
BarryDunaway(President,PetFoodandPetSnacks):
Fromachannelperspective,ofourtotalbusinessabout20%ofourbusinessisinthepetspecialty.AndMark,youwanttotake--?
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Yes,Pablo,thisisMarkBelgya.Justtomakesure--againIthinkIunderstandyourquestion,anditgoesbacktoalittlebitearlieronewasasked.Ifyoulookatthemixofproduct,okay,webenefitfromamixperspective.SowherethegrowthhasoccurredasBarrydescribedfromachannelperspective,we'realsobenefitingfromaproductmixperspective.Sowhetherit'sspecialtyorsnack,orevencatprobablymorethandog,thosearepositivemixbenefits.
Obviously,Kibbles'nBitsisaheavyproduct,it'salotofvolume,sothat'swhereit'snegative[goodsis].Soit'saverypositivemixstory,andnegativeoverallvolumestorybecauseofthedrydogsideoftheequation.
PabloZuanic (Analyst-SIG):
Sorrytoinsist.Sobutdrydogwouldbewhatpercentofyoursalesnow,onarunratenow?
BarryDunaway(President,PetFoodandPetSnacks):
About10%oftotalsales.
PabloZuanic (Analyst-SIG):
Thankyou.That'sgood.
BarryDunaway(President,PetFoodandPetSnacks):
OnlyotherthingI'dreiterate,becauseIdothinkitgetslostoccasionally.BecauseparticularlyasI'veconversationsoverthelastfewquarters,clearly,Kibbles'nBitshasbeenchallenged.
Butwhenyoulookatourfoodbusiness,thecatfoodsideofthebusinessisalittlelarger,andhasdoneokay.Soithasbalancedoutalittlebit.SowhilenottryingtodownplaytheimpactoftheKibbles'nBitsandthevolume,andwhatithadoverthecourseoftheyear,butthecatfoodperformancehasallowedustomanagethroughtheoverallfoodalittlebitmorethanmaybethetakeawaywouldbe.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
TheonlyotherthingIwouldadd--thisisMarkSmuckeris--justremindingeveryonethatthebrandsthatparticipateinthosetwochannelsareverydifferent.It'sverysimilartothenaturalspaceinhumanfood,whereyou'vegotthenaturalchannelwiththeWholeFoodsandtheSproutsandthelike.Ingeneral,there'snotalotofoverlapinthebrand.Sothebrandstendtobeuniquetothoseindividualchannels.
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RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
ThisisRichard.
Andjustaddingtothatforasecond,justanyacquisitionthatwe'vemade,andagainthisacquisitionisonly18monthsold.Oncewe'veintegratedthesebusinesseswithoursalesteams,we'veseensomeopportunitiesinchannelswhereourexistingsalesteamhavesaid,hey,we'rekindofweakinthischannel,andwiththerelationshipswehavewiththesecustomers,wecouldreallybuildthebusiness.Andthattakesusalittlewhiletoidentifythat,andthenbuildthoseadditionalsaleswiththosecustomers,andwe'rejustintheprocessofdoingthat.
Sowe'reprettyoptimisticaboutfindingthosekeycustomersthatwecanbuildourbusinesswith.Andso,weshouldseemoregrowththisyear,inanumberofthosechannels.Don'tyouagree?
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BarryDunaway(President,PetFoodandPetSnacks):
Ido,Richard,andjustmaybetoadd-ontotheMeowMixconversationis,someofourbestinnovationthisyearisagainsttheMeowMixbrand.Andtoyourpoint,oursalesteamhasdoneanoutstandingjobgettingacceptanceofthatproductinthemarket,andespeciallyinthegrocerychannel.Sowherewehaveanoutstandingsalesteamthatcanexecutethere.
Soagain,MarktoyourpointMeowMixisoneofthelargestbrandsinourportfolio.Andwithsomeofthatinnovation,weseesomenicegrowthcomingfromthatbrandthisyear.
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MatthewGraingerwithMorganStanley.
MatthewGrainger (Analyst-MorganStanley):
Hi,goodmorning.Thanksforthequestion.
Ijustwantedtofollow-uponthenetsalesgrowthexpectation,andjusttryanddiginalittlebitmoreatthesegmentlevel.Thankyouforthecommentaryonpet.
ButIguess,MarkBelgya,isthereanymorevisibility,youcangiveusonthat1%ex-divestituresalesgrowth,howFXplaysintothat?Andhowweshouldbethinkingaboutitbysegmentacrosstherestofit?
MarkBelgya(CFO):
WhatI'dsay,Mattisthatabout--thecoffeepricingwouldbeabout1pointtheoverallCompany.Soyoucankindofdollarizethat,togethowmuchthecoffeewouldbe.That'sbyfarthebiggestdriverfromthedownsize.
Ifyoutakethemilkloss,$150millionImentionedearlier,andthen1%ofsales,callitsomewherebetween$70millionto$90milliononcoffeepricing,that'sthetwobignegatives.Sojustdothemath,andattributetotherestofthebusiness,thatwillgiveyouasense.Obviously,theFXhasalittlebitofeffect,butit'sactuallynotabigdriverintheoverall1%declinetototalnetsales.
MatthewGrainger (Analyst-MorganStanley):
Okay,allright.Thathelps,thanks.Justareallyquickfollow-upontheDunkin'K-Cupissue,youtalkedaboutsomeoftheuntappedadjacencyopportunitiesinflavoringsandlineextensions.Yourmarketshare'sstabilizedoverthepastsixmonths,andit'sprettyclosetowhereyourshareisinroastedground.
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Rightnow,canyoujustgiveusasenseofwhereyousee,intermsofgrowthopportunities,howmuchofthatisdependentonholdingthatshare,participatingincategorygrowth,asopposedtocontinuetopushsharehigherintothathighsingle-digitrange,andwhatyouthinkisfeasible?
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Well,Matthew,Ithinkitwillbe--itwillvarybybusiness.Ithinkthere'sstillrunwayfortheDunkin'business.There'ssomecoreflavorsonDunkin',andDunkin'tendstobeamoreflavored-drivenbusiness.Sothere'snewitemopportunityontheDunkin'brand.
Andthen,quitefrankly,nowthattheFolgersbrandisintherightpricepoints,gettingtherightsupportgrowthfromtheretailer,andtheconsumeracceptance,itwillbebetterexecutionofourpromotionstrategiesonFolgers.Sowe'llexecutebetteronFolgers.We'lllaunchnewitemsinDunkin',istheplan.
MatthewGrainger (Analyst-MorganStanley):
Okay,thankseveryone.
Operator :
AkshayJagdalewithJefferies.
AkshayJagdale (Analyst-JefferiesLLC):
Hi.Thanksforthequestion.Soacoupleof--twoquestions,oneoncoffee.Canyoujustexplaintous,orbreakoutofthe18%growththatyousawinoperatingincomeorsegmentoperatingincome,howmuchofthatwasaresultofpricingnetofcommoditycosts?Andwhatisthegeneralexpectationforpricingnetofcommoditiesfor2017?That'sthefirstquestion,andthenIhaveafollow-uponpet.
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Iwouldsayit'sabalance.Iwouldsay,partofitispricing,andthetimingofthepricingisimportanttothinkabout.Wetalked,Ibelieve,inourfirstquartercallayearago,thatweleanedinto,wetookpricingearly,wehadgoodcoverage,andwehadanopinionofthemarketthatweweregoingtogetthatmoneybackingreen,whichwedidinthefourthquarter.
Sointhefourthquarter,obviously,greenpricingtendstocostwasabiggerimpact,butwesortofspendthatmoneyupfront.SoIwouldsayit'sacombinationofthatgreenpricing,whenyougetyournumberone,yourhighvolumeitem,whenyougetvolumeuponthosecanistersinourfacilitiestoo,itreallyfallstothebottomline.
Sothat'sveryefficientforus.SoIknowMark'sdiggingfortheexactpercentagenumberaswespeak.Butit'sabalancebetweenthevolumethat'sgenerated,andtheimplicationsofthatvolumeallthewaythroughthesystemonredcans,andthenthepricing.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
It'sprobablyupalittlebitheavieronthepricecostmaybetwo-thirds,one-third-ish.ButagainIthinkthatgoesbacktowhatyousaidSteve,quiteawhileago,wasjustsortofthewaythatthetimingontheprice…
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Andthevolumeallowedustobringmoregreeninattheend,andthegreenattheend,wasmorefavorable.Soit'sreallyhardtogetitdowntothenitonthat,becauseyou'llrecognizethosePBBswhenthegreencomesin.Andifyourvolumeisup,youbringmoreofthegreeninso.
AkshayJagdale (Analyst-JefferiesLLC):
Sotwo-thirdsoftheoperatingprofitgrowthyear-over-yearin2016wascommodityprice?
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Thenumbersthatwejustquotedwereaquarter.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Fourthquarter.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Wasyourquestiononthefullyear,orjustthequarter?
AkshayJagdale (Analyst-JefferiesLLC):
Onthefullyear.Sorry,thatwasonthefullyear.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Okay,it'sprobablyalittlemore50/50-ishthere.
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Yes,50/50ontheyear.Anditwasbackend-loadedbecauseofthetimingofgreen.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Yes.Ithoughtyouwereaskingthequarterspecifically.
AkshayJagdale (Analyst-JefferiesLLC):
No,andthenonpet,excusemyvoice,onpetcanyougiveusalittlebitmorecoloronthequalityofearnings?Whathappenedwithgrossprofitgrowthfortheyear,andwhat'syourexpectationnextyear?Thanks.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
There'saqualityoftheearnings,andI'llstart,Barry,ifyouwanttojumpin.Ifyoulookoverthecourse,Imeanthisquarterspecifically,weknewmarketingwouldbedownfromalittlebitwhereitwas,becauseofthetimingofthespendintheproducts.Butwealsohadthesynergyrecognition,whichpickedupinthelatterpart.Soifyougobacktotheearlypartoftheyear,weexpectedquarter-over-quarterimprovementonmargin,whichwedeliveredoninQ2,Q3andQ4.
Ithinkfromacostperspectivegoingforward,theircostsalignedverysimilartowhatweseeinourconsumerfoods.Soifthegrainscontinuestobefavorable,IthinkasBarrymentioned,wearegoingtocontinuebonusbagsandthingslikethat,thatmighthavealittlebitofeffectongrossprofit.Butthen,ofcourse,asIthinkaswe'vesaidovertime,ofthethreesegmentsofthebusinessthenaturalhasthelowestprofitability.AndIthinkasBarryandtheteamwork,andaswellasweintegratethatintotheoverallSmuckerCompany,weshouldhaveanopportunitythere,aswell.
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BarryDunaway(President,PetFoodandPetSnacks):
Absolutely,Mark,yes.No,ourqualityofearningsaresolidforFY17.Andaswethinkaboutmixtoo,justasoursnackscontinuetodrivethebusiness,thatiswherethestrongestmarginsonthebusinessareaswell.We'veseenevencatsnacks,smallcategorybuttremendousupsidethere,soIthinkwehaveverysolidqualityofearningsfornextyear.Wehaven'tmadeanysignificantcutstogettoourgrowthnumberfromnextyear,year-over-year.
AkshayJagdale (Analyst-JefferiesLLC):
AndjustonelastoneforMark.Youtalkedaboutorganizationalstructuralchange.Canyougiveusmorecoloronthat?Thanks.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Hey,Akshay,it'sMarkSmucker.Notreally.Idon'tthinkwecangiveyouanymorecolor,otherthantosaythiswasahugeyear.Andnotonlydidwemakethelargestacquisitioninourhistory,butthatacquisitionwasagainthecatalysttosortofthinkaboutthingslike,arewegoingtomarketinthemostefficientway?Dowehavetherightcapabilitiestoengageourconsumerandourcustomer?Werecentlyopenedourinnovationcenterwhichisverymuchallaboutourcustomerretailpartners.
Andsothelongandshortis,aswelookedatourorganization,andwetookopportunityacrossnotonlyourcommercialfunctions,whichwouldbesalesandmarketingandthinkingabouthowwewouldorganizethosedifferently.Butwelookedacrossoursupplychainnetwork,ourfinanceorganization,someofouradministrativefunctionsaswell,justtomakesurethatwewererunningtheminthemostefficientway.
IwouldsaythatoneofthekeythingsisthatasImentionedinthescript,wehaveanindividualfromBigHeartwhoisleadingourgrowthandinnovationorganization.Andso,weareputtingarenewedfocuson--notthatwehaven't,we'vedoneagoodjoboninnovation,butmakingsurethatourmuscle,wherewe'rebuildingmuscleisreallyaroundinnovationlongerterm.Andmakingsurethatourunderstandingoftheconsumerissharpandthatwecanactagainstinsightsthatwearelearningabouttheconsumeraswegoforward.SoIthinkthat'sprobablyit.
AkshayJagdale (Analyst-JefferiesLLC):
Thankyou.I'llpassiton.
Operator :
FarhaAslamwithStephens.
GregoryNep(Analyst-StephensInc):
Goodmorning.Thisis(GregoryNep)onforFarha.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Goodmorning.
GregoryNep(Analyst-StephensInc):
Ijusthaveaquickquestion.Sogivensortoftheexcellentcashflowandsuccesstakingdownleverage,canyousharewithuswhethertheremaybeopportunitiesforfurtherM&A,andjustyourviewontheM&Aenvironmentrightnow?
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MarkBelgya(CFO):
Yes,thisisMarkBelgya.I'llstart,andRichardorMark,ifyouwanttoaddmorefromastrategicperspective.Butaswelookatourdeploymentofcash,comingoutofthedeallastyear,weobviouslyemphasizedtheimportanceofpayingdowndebtoverthecourseofthreetofiveyears,whichwemadegreatprogresson.AndasIsaidearlier,itallowedustogivebackintorepurchasingshares.Wefeelverycomfortablewith$1billionoffreecashflow,thatwe'llbeabletocontinuethatdebtpaydownplan,obviouslycontinueourdividendpayoutpolicy.
Anditallowsusalittlebitofflexibilityastoaddressstrategicoptionscomingin.Sowhetherthat'sM&A,again,Idon'tthinkwearelookingatahugetransformational,likeapetwith,atleastfromaleverageperspective.Butcertainlythere'sM&Aopportunityaswellasbuyback.AndIthinkbuybacksaresituational.Sowetraditionallydonotbuildthatintoourplan.Butifyouaskme,whatisoneoftheopportunitiesforanyupsideofthatrange,you'dhavetothrowbuybackasanopportunityinthere.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
AndthisisRichard.Juststrategically,acquisitionsisakeyfactorofourgrowthoverlong-term.Andso,westillcontinuetolookforthoseopportunities.Andthefactthatwe'renowinthepetfoodbusiness,givesusanotherlaketofishin.Andso,we'llcontinuetolookthere.Andagainthosemaynotbestrategicintheshort-termbuttheymaybemorebolt-onsandsmalleracquisitions,buttheycouldbe.Soanywayjustashortanswer,butalwaysimportanttous.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Plansareinwater.
GregoryNep(Analyst-StephensInc):
Gotit.Andthereisatargetleverageratiothatyouwouldfeelcomfortablestabilizingat?
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Targetleverageratio?
MarkBelgya(CFO):
WellwhatwesaidisthatitsbeenalittlebitofmaturationforusasaCompany.Wewerealwaysprettyconservative.AndIthinknow,sortof3times,weknowisaprettygoodnumbertoworkaround.We'vebeenprettyvocaltothatinthelastsixtoninemonths.Aswegetclosertothat3times,itjustopensupthedooralittlebitmore.
GregoryNep(Analyst-StephensInc):
Gotit.Great.Thankyousomuch.
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ChuckCerankoskywithNorthcoastResearch.
ChuckCerankosky(Analyst-NorthcoastResearch):
Goodmorning,everyone.Greatquarter.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
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Thankyou,Chuck.
ChuckCerankosky(Analyst-NorthcoastResearch):
Ifyouarelookingatyourlargestcustomer,howmuchoftheirimprovementinsalesisreflectedinsomeofthevolumeimprovementyou'veseen,especiallywithregardtopromotionalandrepricingactivity?
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Well,thisisRichard.Justfirstofall,italwayshelpswhenyourcustomersarehappyanddoingwell,anycustomer.Andsowe'regladtoseethatthey'veturnedthecorner,andthat'sgreat.Buttheydidn'tdriveourgrowth.Thisgrowthisbroad-based,sothatwasnotdrivingthis.
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
Andhi,Chuck,SteveOakland.
WehavebrandslikeFolgersthatindexreally,reallywellthere,andthoseteamsareworkingtogetherverystronglytoparticipateinthat,andliketohelpdrivetheircategorygrowth.ButIwouldarguethat,theothertraditionalretailers.Andwetypicallydon'tnamethem,butthetop10retailersifyoulookedatourtop10list,ournumbersareprettygoodacrossthatwholetop10list.Butwe'repleasedtoseethosedowell.Imean,weallasanindustry,needthemtodowelltodowelllong-term.
ChuckCerankosky(Analyst-NorthcoastResearch):
Andwhenyoulookathowconsumersarespreadingtheirmoneyacrossyourbrand'spremiumandmainstream,whatdoesthattellyouaboutwheretheconsumers'headisatrightnow?
SteveOakland (President,USFoodandBeverage):
WellIthinktheconsumerisstillsomewhatcautious.Andthegreatthingaboutourbrandsisourbrandsareprettywell-positionedtosupplyallofourconsumers.Andso,itisacautiousworldoutthere,andwe'restillagoodvalue.Imean,whetherit'sFolgers,orwhetherit'sJiforwhetherit'sSmuckers,it'sagoodvaluetotheconsumer,so.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
AndourindustryRichardhadacommoditypriceenvironmentthatallowedustomaintainourmargins,andreflectthosepricestothecustomerbase.Sowe'veallenjoyed,notjustcoffee,butothercommoditieshavebeeninaplacewherewe'vebeenabletomarketthebrands,providegreatpricepoints,andinnovate,right?
Sowe'vegotinnovationregardlessofthebusinessthat--inthingsthatareveryhighmixandhighcost,andthenprovideitemsinallofourbrands,inallofourbusinessestothediscountchannelstothegrowth,fromthedollarindustry,andthoseplaces.Sowe'vebeenabletoparticipateacrossthespectrumofchannelsprettywell,andthecostbasetoday,andaswelookforward,lookslikeithelpsustodothat.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
AndChuck,thisisMarkSmucker.
Justtoreiteratemakingsurethathave--thatwearedevelopingandgrowingourkeymainstreambrands,butalsomakingsurethatwehavetheright,thetruRoots,theSahale,theNaturalBalance.Thosearebrandsthataren'tnecessarilyasbig,butcertainlyserveaconsumerneedandareimportanttoourportfolio.
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ChuckCerankosky(Analyst-NorthcoastResearch):
Allright.Thankyouverymuch.
RichardSmucker (ExecutiveChairman):
Thanks,Chuck.
Operator :
RobDickersonwithConsumerEdgeResearch.
RobDickerson (Analyst-ConsumerEdgeResearch):
Thanksalot.
Justaclarificationquestion,andmoreforMark.Soitsoundslikeyousaidinyourcommentary,thatadjustedoperatingprofitwillbegrowingabout4%.Andthen,Iknowifyouusethat116.6inyourdilutedsharesoutstanding,thatimpliesaboutanother2.5%.Sothatgetsmeto6.5%EPSgrowthin2017.
Istheassumptionherethatthereareother,belowtheline,likethetaxratecouldbealittlebitbetter?Orinterestratecomesdownalittlebit,orImean,theinterestexpensecomesdownalittlebit?Andthenlastly,ifwelookatthesharesyouboughtbackinQ4,reallyinFY16,Imean,it'sthemostamountyou'vespentonabuybackoutsideofFY14.Socouldtherebeadditionalcashoutlaysin2017toincrementalbuybacks,eventhoughyoumightnothaveasmanyoftheone-timebenefitsonyourworkingcap?Thanks.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Hey,Rob.Soacouplethings.Ithinkthewayyou'rethinkingaboutitfromapercentincreaseisprettymuchinline.Maybe,thesimplemathwouldsay4%plusoperatingprofitgrowth,3%shares,andapointtaxandinterest.Sothatkindofgetsyoutothe8%.Intermsofbuybacks,whatwe'veguidedindirect--andwehaveconversationsparticularlywiththeratingagencies,weuse2%asalong-termmodel.Sothat'sa2%buyback.Soobviously,at116millionshares,it'slookinglike2.2millionshares.SothatasIsaid,onyourearlierquestion,wedon'tfactorthatintoourplans.
Iwouldsay,ourcashdeploymentwouldallowaportionofthat,maybenotthewhole2%withoutpushingtheleveragetargetwe'regoingafter.Butcertainly,andagain,it'ssituational.SoIdon'twanttosithere,andsaywe'regoingtogooutandbuyit,butiftheopportunitywereright,Ibelievewehavethecashtodoit,anditobviouslywouldbeincremental.Certainly,whenwedoitintheyear,willhavelessofanimpact[due]furtherintotheyear.Butthat'sthebeautyofgettingtheleveragetowherewewantittobe,givesussomeflexibility.
RobDickerson (Analyst-ConsumerEdgeResearch):
Okay,great.Andthenjustaquickfollow-up.Onthe4%,ontheoperatingprofitgrowth,ifIheardyoucorrectly,yousaidthecoffeeexpectationwasaboutthesametoflat.Consumershouldbedownalittlebitjust,because,ormostlydrivenbymilk.Andthenpet'supmidsingle-digit.SoifIkindofdothatquickmath,I'mstillgettingtoprobably,I'dsaysub4%.Soisthere,areyou--I'mjusttryingtogetasenseofhowyou're--orhowIshouldbethinkingabouteachofthesegment'sgrowthrelative,tokindofthisrolledup4%number?Thanks.
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Well,Ithinkyouwillhavesomesegmentprofitgrowth.Itwillbealittlelessthan4%,becauseaswesaid
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inourscriptedcomments,ourSG&Aisgoingtobeflatyear-over-year.SosomeofthatSG&Aclearlygoesupintothebusinesses,butalsosomeofitfallsbelow,inwhatwewouldcalladminsupport,butit'sbelowthesegmentprofit.Soyouneedalittlebitofthatbenefittogettothe4%onanoperatinggrowthperspective.
Soyou'reright,there'salittlebit.Butagaintogoback,partofthatreasonisbecauseyouput$40millioninthemarketinginthere.SoI'mnotsaying,itdoesn'thaveaP&Limpact,butjusttomakesurewe'reallclearonwhythatisthecase.
RobDickerson (Analyst-ConsumerEdgeResearch):
Right.Soandthenabiggerpicture,ifwegobacktotheAnalystDay,andhowyou'reinvestingforgrowthetcetera.Sothenet-netofallofthisis,youhavesomeupsideonthecorporateside.You'reinvestingabunchback,butyou'renotinvestingitallback,sothatyoucanstillsqueezeoutthis3%,4%operatingprofitgrowth?That'sthegoalinternallyandexternally?
MarkBelgya(CFO):
Yes,Ithinkthat'sfair.Theothercommentonthe4%,againitgetslostalittlebit,becausewe'resayingthatthebuybackisoffsettingthemilkprofitloss.IfyoustripoutthemilkprofitthatweincurredinthefirsteightmonthsofFY16thatweownedthebusiness,we'reactuallygrowingoperatingincomeat6%.Sowe'reoffsettingit--sowe'rebeingnegativelyimpactedwhenyoulookatitonareportedbasis,butyoustripthatout,we'reactuallyupplus6%.
RobDickerson (Analyst-ConsumerEdgeResearch):
Okay,great.Thanks,guys.
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Thankyouverymuch.ThisisRichard.Ijustwantedtoclosebysaying,thatI'veneverbeenasoptimisticaboutourbusiness,ourbrands,ouremployeesthroughouttheCompany,thebestintheindustry,andtheleadershipteam,especiallythenewleadershipteamwehave.
Ijustthinkwe'reinagreatposition,andIwanttothankeverybodyandthankouremployeesforthewonderfuljobthey'redoing.Andthankallofthepeopleonthephoneforpayingattention,andaskinggreatquestions.Sothankyouandmoretocome,bestisyettocome.
MarkSmucker (President&CEO):
Thankyou,Richard.ThisisMarkSmucker.JusttoechoRichard'scomments,appreciate,ofcourse,Richard'ssupport,butthankallofyouonthephoneforyourtimetoday,andyourthoughtfulquestions.Andagain,justouremployees.Phenomenaljobtheyhavedonetodeliverthisincredibleyear,andthefutureisbright.Sojustallofthetremendouseffortstakenplacethisyearandgoingforward,thankyou.
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