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Smart Mixing Traktor with AbletonPOSTED BY BENTOSAN ON APRIL 4, 2008
By: Bento San
The following Windows tutorial will get Traktor and Ableton all synced up andimplement the concept of smart mixing into your set up. Some of you may bethinking, What is smart mixing? This is a good Question, and the Belvario SmartMixer site answers it well. Smart mixing is a term introduced by Moldover, acontrollerist digital musician who uses a sophisticated software and hardwareconfiguration that allows him to make fast changes to the mix with a minimum ofcontrol movement. One component of this is his smart mixer Reaktor ensemble,which makes it easy to do basic automated EQ mixing with a simple fader move inAbleton Live (in Live 7 its possible to do with only native audio effects).
This Tutorial is For windows users. There is a Mac version here.
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1)RouteAudioFromTraktorandintoanAbletonLivesmartmixer.
2)SyncAbletonsMidiclocktoTraktorwhichwillbehostingthemastertempo
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Note: If your sound card that supports internal audio routing consult your manual for thesteps that involve internal audio routing. Also do not use virtual audio cable or asio4all,instead use the software and drivers that came with your sound card
Edit July 2009: Instead of using the Belvario smart-mixer you can now use acompletely rebuilt smartmixer we have made availible on the blog. See Smart-MixingSetup for Ableton and Smart-Mixing explained.
Getting Started!
I suggest starting small and working your way up so start with the Belvario smartmixer. You will also find the Belvario smart mixer to be much more CPU friendly andsimpler to use. After you have the hang of this you can use some of Moldovers effectsin your effects chain, or change over to Moldover smart mixing if you prefer that.Both sets of files have an Ableton live file that you can open to help make setting upsmart mixing easier.
Step 1: Setting up Virtual Audio Cable
After installing the software mentioned above and rebooting your computer, Thefirst thing we need to do is create two virtual audio in/out sets of cables that willenable Traktor to export its Audio to Ableton Live. You will need to open the VirtualAudio Cable Control Panel to do this. Change the set of cables to 2 sets(top left ofcontrol panel) it should then look something like this :
Note: The more decks you want to work with the more sets of cables you will need, 1set = 1 deck, 2 sets = 2 decks and so on. Here we are setting up two decks but this iseasily scales to 3 or 4 decks.
Step 2: Setting up Midi-OX.
Windows does not normally allow two programs to access the same midicontroller at the same time, so we will need to get around this by creating two virtualmidi devices that export the data from your midi device. To do this we open Midi-OX
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and click Options then in the drop down list select midi devices, In the Midi Inputs boxyou need to select your midi device, then in the outputs box select midi Yoke 1 andmidi Yoke 2 as shown above.
Step 3:Setting up Traktor
Open Traktor, Click File then Audio Setup. Set your Audio Device to ASIO4ALL. Nextclick Control Panel, click advanced to enable more options in the asio4all panel. Youwill need to disable all other audio devices besides Virtual Audio Cable signal outs.The more decks you want to work with the more Virtual Cables you will select here,one cable for each deck. In this instance we are using two decks as shown above
Next we need to route the decks to their respective Virtual Audio cables, exit theAsio4all panel after setting it up as shown above. Now on the left hand menu in theTraktor settings menu click Output routing as we will be mixing externally in Abletonthe first thing you need to do is select external mixing mode. Now you need to tellTrakor which Virtual Audio cables to use on which deck, adjust with your settings sothey look like whats shown below:Note: The more decks you wish to use the more Virtual Cables you will have to selecthere.
Traktor will be hosting the master tempo so we have to set the midi clock up to amidi pathway Ableton can access. Expand the menu and select Midi Clock, set themidi interface to Out To MIDI Yoke 3. Make sure to tick the send midi clock box asshown here. Once you have completed this tutorial you can come back and tweak themidi clock delay to get everything perfectly on time.
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Now its time to select the midi device Traktor is going to use, on the preferencesmenu expand the Hotkey and Midi setup menu, then select Midi Interfaces from theMenu. Next set midi yoke 1 on just the in as shown below:
Step 4: Setting up Ableton Live
Open Ableton Live then open the Belvario or Moldovers Ableton Live file. Makesure you put it into your Ableton VST directory and enable VST support in Ableton filesettings menu like shown:
Click options on the Ableton Live menu, then preferences. You need to select thedriver type to Asio, then the audio device to Asio4all. Click hardware config and set upyour Asio Panel as shown in the diagram below. Once again the more Decks you wantto have control of the more Virtual Cables Ins you need to select, for every one deckyou need one virtual cable in activated. You also need to enable your main audiodevice this time, in my case this is the Sigmatel out which is the chipset on my laptop.If you have a sound card with two outs, you should enable both of these outs to allowmonitoring in Ableton live. I only have a single channel out from my laptop at thistime, this is why only one is showing and activated.
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Ableton needs to know what audio ports you want it want to work with so click theInput config button on the Audio config screen. In my case Virtual Audio Cable routedmy audio to Stereo 9/10 for Deck A and Stereo 1/2 for Deck B, strange outputs but atleast the program is functional ;) You might want to turn all the inputs on to start withto work out which cable is which, then disable the unused cables when you work outwhich cables are been used by Traktor. In the end it will end up looking somethinglike this :
Now click Output Config, if you want to do your mixing externally on a mixer youwill need to select one stereo channel for each deck you want to route. If your mixingwith midi controllers you will need 2 stereo outputs enabled, one for your mix andthe other for monitoring. I personally only have a single stereo channel sound card soi only have the one output enabled as shown :
The midi interfaces that Ableton will be using has to be set up next. Click Midi Syncon the Ableton menu then select Midi Yoke 2 and 3s Track, Sync and Remote all toon. As shown here:
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Now close the Ableton setup window and enable external sync by clicking the EXTbutton on the top left of the Ableton Live main window as shown below:
Change the inputs for the first two tracks in either the Moldover setup or the Belvariosetup. Click the IO button to configure the inputs and outputs in your Abletonchannels(circled in the picture), then change the inputs as shown in the rectangle.
You have now successfully set up from beginning to end the very basics of a syncedsmart mixer setup from Traktor to Ableton. I suggest assigning midi controls on yourdevice for your EQs to control the sends on the Belvario smart mixer, or alternativelyassign them to the smart mixer in the reaktor5 ensemble.
Personalize your mix by adding in VSTs and assigning them how you like, its alsopossible to add extra audio channels and add sampled(or your own content) to thesetracks and have these channels smart mixed. This is only scratching the surface thepossibilities are endless, all thats left for you to do is explore them.
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Safa2 3yearsago
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Heyguys,Ihadalotofhelpwiththistutorial,butasotherssaid,VirtualAudioCable(VAC)isnotthemoststable(anditcostsmoney).IhavefiguredoutawaytosyncTraktorandAbletonbasedonthistutorialbutalittledifferent,withaMidiControllerinternalsoundcardwith2stereooutputs.
FYIthisworksonalaptoprunningwindows7andusingaNumarkMixtrackpro.IamjuststartingwithDJingandittookmeashitloadoftimetogetthisright(2025hourso.0)butIdonotknowmuchofwhatIdidheresodonotaskmewhatworksforyouspecificallybecauseIsimplydonotknow.
ItstillrequiresAsio4allandMidiOXbutinsteadofVAC,IuseJACKasoneuserheresuggested.
Thestepsare:installasio4allasusual,installmidioxandsetitupasdescribedinthistutorial.InstallJACKandfollowinstructionsonthiswebsiteCAREFULLY:http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_w...(note:aftertheinitialinstallitwantedtoinstallMicrosoftVirtualBasic2003orsomething,thisisNOTnecessarywiththe
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Gowstpop 2yearsago>Safa2haveyoubeenabletoportyourtraktorcueintoabletonandbacktoyourmicktrackheadphoneport?or
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Spencer"Thunderball"Thayer 4yearsagoIwishtherewasabettersolutionthanthis.I'vegottenthistoworkbutfindit'ssocumbersome,unreliableandlaggythatit'snotlivegigworthy.It'sfuntomesswithbutultimatelyjustisn'tasolution.COMEONNativeInstruments!JustmakeTraktoraReWiteSlave!EveryoneonDJTechtoolsandamillionotherswantthisfeature.Acceptitandmoveon.
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G1nner 4yearsagoItotallyagreeThunderballNItechsupportareawasteoftime.TheyclaimitisnotpossibletowriteasolutiontofixthisissuebecauseofwritngadriverforWindowsbasedsystemsisnotpermitted.Ifyouasktheyarejustnotuptothejobandrelyheavilyontheusersonforumstoidentifyproblemsandsharesolutionsonfixingthese!It'sstillthesameifyouspeaktoAbletonSupport,they'renobettereither!!!
BentoSan'stutorialaboveworksokafterahugeamountoffiddlingaroundwithseveralpiecesofthirdpartysoftwareandafterallthatthenyoustillhavetweakTraktorandAbletontobotchitalltogetheranditreallyisbotch!
It'sunstable,notjustforbothTraktor&Ableton,butalsoforWindowstoo,asitprettymuchrendersanyotheraudiosetupunusable!
Thismethodmayworkokforshortsessionsathomebutthere'snowayitisfitforliveprouse,sodoitatyourperil.
Italsodoesn'tworkforrecording.OnceyouadjustthetiminginAbletontomakein'sound'insync,inrealtimerecordingduringplaybackitsatotalmessandagain,I'msadtosayunworkable.
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sadtosayunworkable.
SocomeonNI&Abletonbangyourheadstogether,dealwiththeissueasit'sbeenlongoverdueforyoutodosomethingaboutit.Unlessyou'resimplynotuptothetask?
Anyoneknowanydeveloperswhowanttotakethison?andputNI&Abletontoshame!!!!!!
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masix 4yearsagoHello!thanksforthisgreattutorial!igotitallworkingatthefirsttrybutirunintooneproblemhere.Imusingtheaudio8djonawindowssystemandanexternal4channelmixer.Myproblemisthaticanonlychooseoneoutputchannelinabletonlive,soall4traktorchannelsgotoonechannelonmyexternalmixer:(isthereanyworkaround?icantfindanyinformationonthenet.bestregards:)
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2WeaK 2monthsagoIuseJack(win864bit(andnoadministratorhacks+persistentpatchbay)madeitportablewithabatchscriptforjunktionlinkngfoldersandregisteringdll's,incombinationwithvbAudio(&hifi)Cable+AsioBridge(allfree),useCatia(fromkxstudioalsofree)toconnectitallonceandsavethejacksession(loadthesavesessionpatchbayinjackctrlandsavetheprofile.andhavejackstartupinsystrayandstartwithwindows.asiobridgeusesjackaswell.http://vbaudio.pagespersoora...(someexamplesofme:https://drive.google.com/open?...andihavearatheroldandslowdesktop,delaytimesarenotnoticeblenotevenwhenwatchingflashmovie(routedtrougheverything)feelfreetoaskanythin(spend3or4weeksfiguringeverythingout,soletsnotinventthewheeltwice),oneor2downloadsavailableonmydriveaswell)
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emixeon 2yearsagoJack(http://jackaudio.org/)isanicealternativetoVirtualAudioCable.:D
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gstAR66 2yearsagoaufdeutschbitte!!!
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Soroush 3yearsagoYoucandownload"VirtualAudioCableVer.4(full)"fromhere:http://torrents.thepiratebay.s...
Goodlock!
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wycat 3yearsagoWouldthissetupalsoworkwithSeratoItch?
Clost 3yearsagoHieveryone!ImtryingtosyncTraktorPro&AbletonliveviaEthernet(2PCs,oneTraktoranotheroneAbleton),butihavingsomeproblemsandquestios,IhopeIcan
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getthesolutionsoonerbecausemybrainitsgannamakeboooom!welltostart:Myproblem:ImtryingtosyncTraktorProwithAbletonLive8viaEthernettryingtheprogramsEthernetmidi(Free),rtpmidi(Free)andipmidi(trialfullfunsion),so,onanywayicangettraktorintoableton,oneachprogramreconizeeachcomputer,butwhenitrytosetupthemidionabletonortakealookwithmidioxwhatfrecuenzyofmidiirecievingandjustigetthemidifromthesamecomputerIxplain:computer1(namedMidi1)withtraktorintalledjustshowuponmidioxlikeMIDI1andodontshowuptheothercomputerontheEthernetnamedMidi2,oncomputer2thesame,so,eachprogrammidiethernetprogramreconizetheothercomputerandconnectedbutwhenigotosetupfromabletonorcheckonmidiox,idontgettheothercomputeronanyways(midi,audioorwhatever).Myquestion:
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Clost 3yearsagoHieveryone!ImtryingtosyncTraktorPro&AbletonliveviaEthernet(2PCs,oneTraktoranotheroneAbleton),butihavingsomeproblemsandquestios,IhopeIcangetthesolutionsoonerbecausemybrainitsgannamakeboooom!welltostart:
Myproblem:
ImtryingtosyncTraktorProwithAbletonLive8viaEthernettryingtheprogramsEthernetmidi(Free),rtpmidi(Free)andipmidi(trialfullfunsion),so,onanywayicangettraktorintoableton,oneachprogramreconizeeachcomputer,butwhenitrytosetupthemidionabletonortakealookwithmidioxwhatfrecuenzyofmidiirecievingandjustigetthemidifromthesamecomputerIxplain:computer1(namedMidi1)withtraktorintalledjustshowuponmidioxlikeMIDI1andodontshowuptheothercomputerontheEthernetnamedMidi2,oncomputer2thesame,so,eachprogrammidiethernetprogramreconizetheothercomputerandconnectedbutwhenigotosetupfromabletonorcheckonmidiox,idontgettheothercomputeronanyways(midi,audioorwhatever).
Myquestion:
OncasethenicangetthecomunicationbetweenTraktorandAbleton,ineedoricandothesameconfigurationofSmartMixingimean,useasio4alltosendthesoundtoabletonandiuseabletonforclipsaneffects,usevirtualaudiocabletoseparateeachdeckfromtraktor,useMidiyoketocreateamidichannel(Ialreadyintalledanddosn'tworkonmysetup),orineedmidioxtocontrolthemidisignal?
ormorefar,ineedanotherkingofconfiguration(hardwareorsoftware)?
Wellmainbrains,ihopesomeonecangivemeahandonthispleaseandtyforurtime.
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GrosBedo 3yearsagoI'vemadeatutorialtosyncAbletonLiveandMixMeister:http://gbotools.blogspot.com/2...
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Rdesroches 3yearsagoFreevirtualaudiocablealternative:http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_w...
IthasaPCandaMacversion.
M_r05 4yearsagohallotoeveryonewhenitrytouse4outputatraktorcrash.whatcanidotofixit.ihaveapioneerddjt1.traktorpro2
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M_r03 4yearsago>M_r05alsointhemidiclockthereisnooptiontorouthittosomewherelikemidiyoki3
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Radkoo2 4yearsagoVirtualAudioStreaming
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Radkoo2 4yearsagoHi,WhyIdon'thaveinmidiox"usbaudiodevice"?
Ihaveininputsonly8Yoke.
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TrevorMauriceWilliams 4yearsagok.HowdoIdothisonaMAC?
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ChristianK. 4yearsagoMidiYokeworksfineunderwindows764bit.Ijustinstalleditwithoutissue.
Forallthosemissingthemidiyokeinput/outputs,makesureyouhavetherightprogramsinstalled.
MidiOXisthenameofwebsite,andthenameofaprogramthere,withdownloadlinksdirectlyoffthehomepage.
MidiYokeisseparateprogram(driverreally),andyouneedtoclickonmidiyokeontheleftnavbartogettothedownloadpageforthat.
WhenyouinstallMidiYoke,&reboot,bydefault,youshouldhave8virtualmidiyokein&out.Youcanchangethatinthecontrolpanelundermidiyoke.
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vidar 4yearsago@Paul:DoyougetbetterresultswithMidiOx/Yoke?Ididn'ttrytoplay/syncclipsfromabletonwithtraktoryet,onlyusingabletonforsoundengineering,kindof,e.g.compressionlikedescribedinthearticleabove.That'swhyI'mhappytohaveasetupnowwherethesoundactuallyimprovesinsteadofgettingdistortedbyincontrollablestatic(inducedbyagraphicscardthathappendtobeIRQsharingwithmyUSBsoundcardandbyAbletonsinadequateprocessscheduling).
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g1nner 4yearsagoHiBentosan,thistutorialwasagreathelptomethankstoyouIhavemyLive8&Traktorallrunningtogethernow!Adonationisonit'sway.......
TherearejusttwootherissuesIhavenow,,,,,1>IusetheAllen&HeathXone4Dmixerformidicontrolovermytraktorsoftware.Sincefollowingyourtutorialthemidicontrolisdisabled.
2>Iwouldlovetohavevinylcontrolwheneverpossible(especiallyformixinginacapellas)butagainthenewconfigurationwon'tallowmetohavetimecodedvinylorcdsetup.
Canyouhelpmeoutheretoconfigurethistohavefullcontrolintraktor????
Paul 4yearsagoHaventgetansolutionwithoutthemidiclockjumpingfrombetween125and130bpm.AndthereisIthinknoworkaroundfortheproblemthatabletonwontlaunchtheclipsontime...Theonlythingimalbetodoaboutthatislaunchingasilentclipinableton@128bpmintimewithtraktorandneverchangingthespeedonbothsystems...notrealya
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intimewithtraktorandneverchangingthespeedonbothsystems...notrealyaworkaround...
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vidar 4yearsagoMilagro:sure,maybethepointspostedaboveandintheAbletonforumareinterestingforyouaswell:http://forum.ableton.com/viewt....UsingtheJackSoundDaemon(theMultiProcessorVersionjackdmp)withtheswitch"SXwinmme"allowsevenbasicmidisyncbetweenbothprograms,incaseyouwanttoexperimentmore.Ontheotherhand,ifyouonlywanttorecordyourtraktorsessions,Iguessthat'spossibleinTraktoritself,thereevenaresomeyoutubevideosshowinghowtodothat.
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Milagro 4yearsagoCanIuseAbletonLivetorecordfromTraktor?
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Milagro 4yearsagoWillloopbe1(http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1...givemethesameresutls
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Milagro 4yearsagoIsthereasolutionforMidiYokeunderWindows764Bit?
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GeorgeLoukas 4yearsagoHi,thanksforthearticle!I'vefollowedthemidiinstructionstoatT.I'mroutingTraktorScratchProto2channelsonmyexternalmixerandAbletonto1channelonthemixer.WhenIsyncthetoprogramsAbleton'sGlobalTempogoescrazy.Upanddownconstantly.Anyonehaveanyadvice?!Pleasefeelfreetopassitoninanemail.ThankYou!George@loonamix.com
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GeorgeLoukas 4yearsagoHi,thanksforthearticle!I'vefollowedthemidiinstructiontoaT.I'mroutingtraktorto2channelsonmyexternalmixerandAbletonto1channelonthemixer.WhenIsyncthetoprogramsAbleton'sGlobalTempogoescrazy.Upanddownconstantly.Anyonehaveanyadvice?!Pleasefeelfreetopassitoninanemail.ThankYou!George@loonamix.com
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Milagro 4yearsagoBythewayIamusing:AbletonLive8.0.4Traktor1.2.4Widows7Ultimate64bit
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Milagro 4yearsagoHelloIhavesomeproblemtryingtosetupMidiOX.IhavesetupVirtualAudioCablecorrectly(http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/vie...
ButwhenIwhentrytosetupMidiOXYoke1and2arenotfound(http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/vie...
AndIcannotfindwhereImustsetupmyMIDIinterfaceinTraktor
Thisarethescreenshotsof:TracktorAdiohttp://www.tiikoni.com/tis/vie...TracktorOutputMo.http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/vie...Asiohttp://img576.imageshack.us/im...Abeltonhttp://yfrog.com/2pabeltonmidi...
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C.Los 5yearsagohi!recentlyifindthiswayforIcanusetraktorandabletonatthesametime,beforeihavethisconecctionbutwithNIAudio8,butthiswasonmycuntryandthisanotherhistory:),ifindthissiteandIdoeverythingtheysaytoconecttingtraktorwithableton,Ihaveeverythingliketheinstructiononthispage,butIhaveaproblem,thesounditsrealyrealybad,soundadistortionorscrath,andidontknowwhy.evenibuyaexternalaudiointerfaceforremplacemysoundcardontheconfigurationofableton(everythinglikethewebsay,butonabletonitrytodontusethesoundcardofmylaptopifnottheexternalaaudiointerfaceBehringeruca222),soIrealydon'tknowfromwhereitstheproblemIhave,Itrychangethelatancy,thebuffer,andIdontknowhatmoreIcando,hereIleavewhatIhave:
Laptop:HPpavilion1.6ghz,3.0ram,conexantHDAsoundcard,withWindowsXPPro.
Midicontroll:maudioevolutionuc33e.
ExternalAudioInterface:BehringerUCA222
Note:Ifsomebodyhavesomeanswerformyproblem,pleasecontactmebymail:[email protected],Igoingtowaithingforsomeone,beforetakethedesitiontobuyaNIAudio4or8.Thankyouguys.
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Sergiu 5yearsagoEverythingworksfinebutIdon'thearanysoundeventoughsound'sreachingAbleton'sMasterOutput.
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BreakBomb 5yearsago[quotecomment="5690"]Afteracoupleofhours,ImanagedtohookuptraktorwithabletonwithJACKandNO(!!)Latency....workswonderfull....ijustrecomendtodownloadthelatestversionofjackandtryitout...iftherearestillpeoplearoundwhowanttoknowletmeknow,andisendalittletut...
Happydjaying!!![/quote]
Dunnoabout"NOLatency"...myRolandFA101stillreportsahigherlatencyinAbletonwhenusingTraktor&Jackinconjunctionwithit.Thewholesetup(asfascinatingasitis)isfilledwithissuesthatcanmakeyouroverallrigveryunreliable.AnyoneknowwhethertheSerato/AbletonBridgeisstable&completelylatencyfree?
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vidar 5yearsagoWiththeBentoSansetupthesignalfromthe"left"channelseemstogetlouderwhenthecrossfaderismovedfromthe"left"positiontothemiddleandthenreducesagaintotheoriginalloudnesswhenthesliderismovedfurthertothe"right"channel.Icheckedthisbymixingthesametrackonbothchannels.Doesanyoneexperiencethesameeffect?Maybesomeparametrizationinthesetupneedstobeadjusted?Notfamiliarenoughwithabletonorsoundprocessingyettodiy..
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Feezy 5yearsago[quotecomment="25816"]Lovethis
IsthereaversionwithTraktorScratchpro
Havingbigdifficulty[/quote]
Yeahtookmeawhiletofigureitouttoo,theonlydifferenceisthat,afterenablingthe"SendMidiclock"featureintheconfig,clickonthemetronomeiconbelowtheFX1iconinthetopleftcorner,thencheck"Auto"andclickplayandifyou'veseteverythingelseupright,Abletonshouldstartreceivingthesignal...hopethishelps
Feezy 5yearsagoheythanksforthegreatguide!everythingwasprettyeasytosetupthankstothe
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heythanksforthegreatguide!everythingwasprettyeasytosetupthankstothepics...myquestionis:whatnow?:PImanabletonnoobalthoughivereaduponsmartmixingandamreallyinterestedbutimnotsurewhattodoafterthetwoprogramsaresynced...ivegoogledalotforaguideorsomethingbutcantfindanyworthwhileinformation...anyhelpwouldbegreat
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josh 5yearsagoGoodarticle.Hereisasimilarsolution:http://www.shiningmorning.com/...
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vidar 5yearsagoThanksTimsterforthathintaboutJackAudioServerforWindows!Maybesomeone(BentoSan?)couldupdatethelinksabovetoincludethefree(andopensource!)powerfulalternativetoVirtualAudioCable.AfterabitoffiddlingIgotAbletonconnectedviaJackdtoTraktortooutputtoanMAudioFasttrackPro(USB).Themaintwotrickswherethefollowing:A)theJacktoASIOconnection:IlearnedfromasimilarexperimentonaTorqrelatedforumtoexplicitelywrite"ASIO::MAudioUSBASIO"intothe'Interface','Input'and'OutputDevice'fields,andtoput'4'intothe'Input'and'OutputChannels'(withthe'(default)'settingIhadnosignalonthemonitoroutput).Thesecondtrickwasalittlemoresubtle:TheMAudioASIOdriversometimesseemstoadjustthe'latency'(verticalsliderinthedriverscontrolpanel).Incidentallythenumbersonthesliderseemtocorrespondtothe'frames/period'settinginJack.Thesoundwasheavilydistortedwhenthevaluesdidnotmatch(sortof),butwithJackandMAudioASIOdriversettothelowestpossiblevalueoftheMAudiodriver(whichis128),thesoundisfine.FromwhatIsawintheshorttests,thesetupisstableandperformant.Butmoretestingshouldbedone.UnderLinux(runningmixxxorIDJConJackd)yearsagoI'vesufferedfromstrangesoftwarehangupsinthemiddleofasetwhichiswhyImovedtoTraktorinthefirstplace.Iguessit'sneverbeenJackd'sfault,whichisaveryfineresultofongoingopensourcesoftwaredeveopmentefforts.Yuck,nowIhavetobuyAbletontoo..Theexperimentwasdoneusingthe'Ableton6lite'Demo:)
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fermx 5yearsagoisitnormalthatableton'sbpmchangesconstantly?I'veeventryedstoppingallmytracksandleavetraktorbpmconstant(125)andbpminlive(evenwithallstopped!!)constantlyfluctuatesbetween122~127.Itsimpossibletohaveatightmixwiththatfluctuationgoingon.
Imaginethefluctuationwhendroppingtracks(whichmakethemastertempointraktortofluctuateaccordingly),thatis2*fluctuation!!
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sehio 5yearsagocananyonepleaseexplainhow'sthesetupofjackforwindows??Idon'tknowhowtousemyAudio8DJviaJack...
thanks!:)
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Patch 5yearsagoHAsanyonegotthisworkingwithcontrolvinyl?I'vebeentryingtodothisforawhileusingeitherJAckforWindows,orVAC.
I'vehadNOLUCK...:(
Isitpossibletomixtheaudiofrom2appswhenoneistakinginfofromcontrolvinyl?
BreakBomb 5yearsagoIgnoremylastpost,asI'vealreadyfiguredouthowtomidisynctraktortoableton&eventheotherwayaroundusingAbletonasmymasterclock.Mymainproblemnowis...scratching8thnotesback&forthat145bpmgivesmeatotallatencyof1/8th.Horribleifyouactuallyintendonsoundinggoodonyourscratches.
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Horribleifyouactuallyintendonsoundinggoodonyourscratches.
HatsofftoBentoSanforalltheinputgonnatrytotakeonJack&hopefullythat'llcutthelatencydownabit.
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kinetikk 5yearsagotriedthiswithtraktorpro1.23andlive8gotmidiintotraktorthroughmidiyokebutcouldntgetmidiintolivewithmyxone4d.nottofussedaboutgettinglivetoworkbutwanttousegrandvjinthesameway.goteverythingsetasinstructed.couldyouhelpmealong?
cheerskinetikk
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BreakBomb 5yearsagoIncredibletutorial!!I'vegotteneverythingworkingexceptfortheMIDIsync.I'mrunningTraktorScratchPro&mypreferenceslookdifferentfromyours.ThereisnooptionforselectingMIDIoutaswellasno"MIDIInterfaces"section.Anybody??
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Ultraviolet 5yearsagoWorksfinewiththemoldoversetup!Runningonwin7withaverylowlatency...cantwaittllthenextgig!!!
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Ultraviolet 5yearsago[quotepost="312"][quotecomment="17856"]HiIhaveconnectedAbleton8withTraktorProbutIranintoafewproblems.ImusingBelvarioSmartmixer,butslimslidecompressorkeepscrashingAbleton.ItsaysVSTcouldntbefound,althoughitsinrightfolder...Cansomeonegivesanexamplewheretosidechaincompressors?[/quote]
Sameproblemhere...orcantfindvstorabletoncrashes.Tryingthemoldoversetupwellseewhathappens.Anywaythanxforthetutorial!Goodwork...
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Tyronnster 5yearsagoLovethis
IsthereaversionwithTraktorScratchpro
Havingbigdifficulty
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HappyNinja 5yearsagoThankBentosanforthiswonderfultutorial,bigrispectsforyou.
i'mn00binthesoftwaremixing,ifollowedstrictlybentosantutorialandnothingwasworkingatall,i'musingtraktor1.2+abletonlive7(djingsoftwares).TheninoticedthatASIORoutingit'sVERYIMPORTANTifsomethingisbadornotproperlyconfiguredinsidetheASIO4ALLstrangethingsaregoingtohappend.
i'mgoinginslowstepsbecausethisisfarfarcomplexthanbentosanwroteinthispost,howeverit'sobviousthatyouneedtofigureoutyourowntogetthebestsettingforyou.
Thankzbentosan.
Jim 5yearsagoI'musingTraktorProandAbleton8
Ijustcan'tgetthemtosync(onsamelaptopetc)Idon'twnattorouteaudiooranythingIsimplywantthemtomidisync..Abletonbpmflysallovertheplace
IhavetheMIDIoutputfromtraktoronMIIDYokeoutput3andtehinputto1andtheinputonabletonto2
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