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please stay clear of the information in the site and please do not try to book anytrips through it and certainly don't try to purchase insurance through the site.

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I tried to determine location of this site- The rp is 2o7.46.222.L4. Trace Routefollowed itto 2o7.46 (msn.net) and then timed out. pings are not returned. Iwould be careful with the site.

I am not a computer expert, but I have noticed that web sites I deal with allow meto trace the route (over the internet) to their IP address. Also few sites will notreply to pings.

Here isthe response I received from the livingsancarlos web site using a ID servutility from Steve Gibson's site--

Initiating server query ..,Looking up IP address for domain: http://www.livingsancarlos.comThe IP address for the domain is: 207.46.222.14Connecting to the server on standard HTTp port: BO

[Connected] Requesting the server's default page.The server returned the following response headers:HTTP/1.1 301 Moved PermanentlyConnection: closeDate: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:22:25 GMTSe rver : M i crosoft-IlS/6. 0X-SourceServer: U1201X-Powered-By: ASP.NETX-Asp N et-Versio n : 2. 0. 50 7 2 7Location : http : / / livi ngsa nca rlos.comCache-Control : privateExpires: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 0B:00:00 GMT

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Maybe the livingsancarlos owner will see these posts let us know if it islegit.

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This site was identified as linked with a person involved in multiple real estatefrauds. I would treat it as a "virus,' if I were you.

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for a novice like myself it looks like a site under construction looks ligit so Iappreciate the expert computer knowledge you are protecting people with lesscomputer skills THANKS

chad E. willis built the site http://www.livingsancarlos.com and posted it. Hehas felony convictions for fraude in Michigan.

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It would appear he has violated his probation by coming to Mexico and it would alsoappear that he has continued his past fraudulent busineis practices in Cabo SanLucas and now here in san carlos and frauded at reast onu purron i know ofpersonally, perhaps more. He is rumored to now be in Vallarta and I would suspectcontinulng to or planning to fraud unsuspecting gringos.

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The site owner is innocent in all of this and was apparently taken in by thishuckster.

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bartmanaz wrotelThe site owner is innocent in allhuckster.

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of this and was apparently taken in by this

Thanks Bart for stepping in here. I was 100o/o sure that the owner was notinvolved. I was about to post something similar but it is much better coming fromyou.

Good job.

So if anyone spots a guy driving a black Escalade in SC just whip out your RpG. orequivalent.

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and here is a picture of the couple.

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Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 11:30 am

If anyone has any friends in Pueto Vallarta please ask them to post this informationand to repost the picture on this forum. Unfortunetly the police in Vallartaapparently have been informed of this guy but are not taking action against him.

Please foreward this into to any contacts you might have in Vallarta.

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Excuse me, but is that girl reaching around to his wallet in this pic?????

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She is actually involved with Chad and actively helping him fraud people. But youmay be right, she is certainly in if for the easy money. How they sleep at night isbeyond me though.

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Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 tt:45 am:::::_::.::y :_"1jljl ilS'_ ll:i: 1T .illl*,.:l11litlll* *l_.111;Hook i t tnlnt livingsancarlos,com is down.......,...for the count?Member

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i he has created another web site hllpz/ /www.livesancarlos.comi

i This new site is up and running while under construction. He apparently will try toi fruad people through this site. Perhaps someone more internet savy could trace the

site and find out who is actually hosting the site and get if off line since it is beingused for fradulent purposes. There must be a mechanism for pursuing this at thatend.

I have a real estate investor/developer friend in vallarta...l will pass this on.Thanks for the heads up.

Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 11:58 am

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My friend is now aware and will be spreading the word in those circles.

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"Perhaps someone more internet savy could trace the site and find out who isactually hosting the site and get if off line since it is being used for fradulentpurposes. There must be a mechanism for pursuing this at that end,"

There was ... but the moderators of this site ... prevented it. Look in the mirror.Status: Olflin€Mana: fiS{l$

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Bajajaja,

Are you bi-poler?

Can medication help?

Well-Get some!!!

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what exactly have I prevented? i can tell you specifically what I hope to prevent. Iam trying to prevent this guy from steeling money from people in puerto Vallarta.

A member actually did some research for me today, thanks very muchll!

The web site was created on the 10th of August and has not been edited since. The1Oth of August is the same day that the guy basically dissappeared from sanCarlos.

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Sounds like a job for Paladin

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, "Perhaps someone more internet savy could trace the site and find out who is' actually hosting the site and get if off line since it is being used for fradulent, purposes. There must be a mechanism for pursuing this it that end."

There was .,. but the moderators of this site ... prevented it. Look in themirror.

I have not yet seen where you have substantially contributed value to the boardwith your insight or especially, your opinions. why don,t you do us a favor and limityour posts to those dealing with your wealth of knowledge about Baja, Bob.

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I'm sorry where is the plC?

chad stole some things from our place in Bahia Delfin, we almost got taken byhim.

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Here is the whois info on this web site. Appears no innocent third party is beingduped so this time he is fair game:

domain: livesancarlos.comcreated: 10-Aug-2007last-changed: 10-Aug-2007reg istration-expiration : 1O-Aug- 2008

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bill-c-email: [email protected]

o/o See httpz/ /registrar.schlund.info for information about Schlund+Partner AG

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Those with specific information in hand can complain about this web site [email protected]. Be prepared to provide some specifics to lhem to make yourcase.

The domain registrar is SCHLUND+PARTNER AG, a firm in Germany.

The dreamingglobal.com domain name is parked at godaddy.com

Here is the whois data for that one:

Registrant:Living Global435 lewis crtBirmingham,United States

Companies Inc.

Michigan 48009

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (hftp=l /www.godaddy.com)Domain Name: DREAMINGGLOBAL.COM

Created on: 13-Feb-07Expires on: 13-Feb-09Last Updated on:

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Willis, Chad [email protected] Global Companies Inc.435 lewis crtBirmingham, Michigan 48009United States2484706025 Fax --

Technical Contact:Willis, Chad [email protected] Global Companies Inc.435 lewis crtBirmingham, Michigan 48009United States2484LO6O25 Fax --

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Chad took me for lots of money and we will catch him and everything on this boardis right this guy is a mega scam adist, he does not care about anybody. Not evenhis two little girls. I know this guy very well and he know I am after his a--l rhisguy is a monsler Sociopath. LETS CATCH HIM AND PUT HIM DowN FoR THECOUNT. See Attached Plc

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Sorry, I don't see the PIC How do I open an attachment?

bcoqey wlotei ...

I'm sorry where is the PIC?

i chad stole some things from our place in Bahia Delfin, we almost got taken by

B Corey

I am sorry to hear that you had things stolen from your unit, I too own a condo atthe Delfin. was he staying at your unit? Did he get into your unit illegally?

I am concerned as security is always an issue.

Thanks

Tom

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; The picture is in the first page it should come up. He sure looks like a happy goi lucky guy, but his records shows his colors. shame when it is so easy to makl

money by working,

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Thanks, but it was only an alarm clock and perhaps a couple of other smallthings but he did leave a beer in the refrig. He wanted to store a couple of our newmattresses in his storage unit? This raised a flag with me. I think the mattresseswould have gone elsewhere.

we were in the process of renting it to him and he was moving in when I was madeaware of his situation. Getting them out required much finesslrom a distance andkept my stomach in knots while we were on vacation at Lake Tahoe. He didgracefully leave.

So no real concern for security at the Delfin. We learned a valuable lesson and wasvery fortunate because we really liked the 2 of them and trusted them. Apparentlymany others have been hurt badly and I can totally understand how they became-prey to his alleged schemes.

It will not be a good ending for them. i can only hope that he takes some stock inhimself and comes forward to face the music.

I have met many wonderful people at the Delfin and in sc, but in the future I willbe more cautious.

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Baft: Vince thanks for posting picture of chad, but the people that I sent it to saidthat they could not see the picture. could you let us know how to view? I can seethepicture, but the friends I sent the website to could not. thank you very much

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i . Bart: vince thanks for posting picture of chad, but the people that I sent it toi said that they could not see the picture. could you let us know how to view?

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i Try using a different web browser, I use fire fox and sometimes I can not seei pictures on the forum, when I use internet explorer I see all the pictures that arei posted. So when I want to see a picture i usually have to open explorer to viewi them. Hope that helps.

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Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 03:03 pm

Firefox has problems-suggest u use IE or netscape

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You need to login with your user name and password in order to see attachments,Your browser probably "remembers" you from a time you logged in, and if younever logged out, or deleted the cookies in your browser, then next time you cometo Bart's board, it "knows" it is you. I THINK.

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It doesn't come up/ though, on another computer I have that doesn't log me inautomatically. when not logged in, I get a message from this site saying "sorry,you do not have permission..."

A guess is that that's what's happening to susura's friends, assuming they're notregistered here. They see chad E. willis Blanca.jpg instead of the photo. click onit, and get "Sorry..."

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HAS ANYBODY SEEN CHAD OR HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS GUY AS OF LATE?

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He has been spotted in cabo (fake website and development project), in NorthBaja, Sonora, Puerto Vallarta and now Cancun.

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Apparently we have helped chase him out of Vallarta. Thanks to everyone who hasposted on this fourm and other forums in Vallarta. It would appear he has moved. Ifanyone has a contact in Cancun, please send anyone you know in Cancun thepicture of chad E. willis and his accomplis Blanca. please post the info on webforums down there. He can't run forever, the party has to come to an end sooner orlater, better if it happens sooner.

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i It would appear that he has already done his deal in cancun, stolen money frompeople there and now on his way to Belize, a much smaller country. Anyone withany Belizean connections out there?

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gets amused by his doings. He should laugh as much as possiblebecause his days as a free man a very very limited. The FBI is wellaware of him now and they are taking this case very seriously at thispoint because of the amount of victims and money that has been stolen.I unfortunitly now this guy to well and he is a sociopath to the 100thdegree. Cares little about anything other then himself.

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why don't you go down there and find him. Belize is a very small country and hewouldn't be hard to find. His sflye is high profile and he isn't the kind of person youforget when you meet him. I have been to Belize many times and there are no uigtowns in the whole country. If he has truely gone there it would be easy to find him.Have you posted info on the forums down there. Have you followed the paper trailthat I suggested?

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I know this by Speaking with people and through web forums. Have you postedanything on him on the belizean web forums? Have you contacted authorities inBelize? It is a small country and I would be emailing his photo to every emailaddress I could get in Belize. It would be seem perfectly sensible he would go toBelize, he needs to be in a place where English is spoken to do his deal so he aintgoing to a place where there are no english speakers. Also the places in Guatemalasuch as the rio dulce would be a place I would look for him as well. It is a verytouristy place with plenty of english speakers. I might ask who you are and how dowe know you aren't Chad under another name? Ceftainly he is keeping track ol thisweb forum.

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i He is in Cancun, has been seen in Puerto Morelos near Crococun driving a Red Jeep

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Would you send me an adrees so I can send the information about this couple? FBI

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You can send a tip about criminalsto the FBI atthis link https://tips.fbi.gov/

The FBI website specifically states they have jusidiction for mortgage fraud.

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;;";r" ;" on the took out for a suy named chad E. winis. Approx 34 years otd,Heavy set blond hair. He has frauded several people in cabo san Lucas and now inSan Carlos, Sonora Mexico. What he did in San Carlos was get someone to finance aweb site livingsancarlos.com and then frauded the owner of the web site for over20,000 dollars. Please go to these links for more information on him, this is a postfrom a forum in San Carlos

chad E. willis built the site livingsancarlos.com and posted it. He has felonyconvictions for fraud in Michigan.

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It would appear he has violated his probation by coming to Mexico and it would alsoappear that he has continued his past fraudulent business practices in Cabo SanLucas and now here in san carlos and frauded at least one person I know ofpersonally, perhaps more. He is rumored to now be in Vallarta and I would suspectcontinuing to or planning to fraud unsuspecting gringos.

be careful of anyone fitting this description he is now in Cancun or puerto Morelos.

i think i know where to find him. anybody want to help, contact me.

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i know he still contacts his wife in michigan. i've lost almost everything because ofhim. help me to get him behind bars with a 3001b cell mate named leioy. we won,tget our money back, but boy the thought of his new boy friend leroy keeping himcompany in a 6/6 cell should help ease the pain

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i know how to track him. you want to help?

i also have convicting evidence, can i play too

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i It is unfortunate but it would appear the people he has frauded here in this areai and down in Puerto Morelos close to Cancun are not interested in pressing chargesi thus he will remain free in Mexico to continue until he frauds the wrong person.

Here is the latest on him from a private message we recieved from the beggining ofthis month. U.S. officials will not try to extradite him, apparantly he is not worth themoney it would cost to send some federal marshals down there to pick him up.

He has left the Paradisus Hotel. He was fired from Sol Melia Vacation Club as well.when leaving he made sure to steal a few things and left a pendent bill of j,000 usfor the Manager. After this no one has seen him. Im guessing he is stitt in puertoMorelos, it is a good hideaway and there is a lot realstatew going on.He is driving a red Jeep and his wife Blanca is pregnant.

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i fnat is how con men operate, they charm and steal and those who will noti prosecute are just as guilty to let it continue, Sad

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Actually I am kind of surprised in all this. These Expartirate groups are prettyaware of each other and really don't like someone/ newbee coming in and screwingthings up.

Pretty hard to get lost in Morelos and his wife is having a baby soon, that will makethings a bit tougher.

Its all a big game down there . . .Get the Gringo / Screw the Gringo but they dontlike Gringos with their hands in the pot as well. Ahhhhh but he was smad enoughto marry a Mexican and a cute one at that.

Of Coarse its just a matter of time before she like all the rest of the little latinhotties dumps ( and sends into hiding ) senor chubby and is doing. . . . a youngerdude. . . and spending chubbies Peso's if there are any left to spend or turning himin for a reward.

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They were not married when they were here in San Carlos so don't know if they arenow. ApparenLly he is smart enough not to try to con any Mexicans. His targets,from what I know have been gringos. He doesn't speak spanish so he will hive toremain in a english speaking area. I think eventually he may con the wrong guy butuntil then he will remain free. He may have a fair amount of cash saved upfrom

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past cons before he got to Mexico so it can go on quite acountry for doing what he wants to do.

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to press charges. i don't know if blanca is his wife. i do know that the mother of hislatest child is still married to him and she resides here in michigan. i've been toldthat i can't go after her for my money, even though she also frauded me with mysigature on company checks. the authorities said i have to prove it. he knows all thisand loves it. he even left me a message the other day that said" i see your stillliving in a dream world with all the others that think you can touch me" well, theday may come.

thank you for the update and please know i am very grateful. he stole 100's of10oo's from me in a mortgage marketing venture and i'll catch-up to him sooner orlater( do you belive that the FBI still will do nothing) again...thank you

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Greg - I want to set the record straight srnce you are continuing to associate me toChad after everything that you know he has done to me as well.

I am NOT his wife anymore, I do NOT speak to him anymore, and I NEVER forgedyour signature on anything that had to do with that mortgage company. So Iwould appreciate it if you leave me out of this cruisade you, Ben, and Vinny aretrying to fight against him.

He may have stolen money from you and everyone else he has victimized, buthe has also stolen from me and my family as well. He not only used me for moneyand destroyed my credit, but he also stole a life away from my innocentdaughter. No amount of money can set a value on my child's life and the cards thatshe has been dealt because of him, The children that he left behind are the one'sthat are ultimately victimized in the end of all this.

I am trying to rebuild a life for myself and my daughter, statting completely overas a single mother with zero credit and a mountain of debt, I would appreciate it ifI were left out of all associations with him as I am trying to move forward and pickof the pieces of my life that have been destroyed. So please have a little decencyand respect, YOU are not the only one who has been left suffering.

i Just to keep the record straight I am not the Vinny that Elisia is reffering to in heri last post. Chad you are quite the work of art aren't you. When does it end and youi decide to stop screwing people and make an honest living? Poor Blanca, she told usi about how wierd you were and how you stole money from people and because ofi her we decided to google you. The plot certainly does sickin. I feel for the childreni and the trail of tears left in your wake of deciet and lies. They will truely be your

saddest victims.

Elisia, was that your family's black Cadillac suv that Chad wrecked here in SanCarlos and was it stolen?

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The Cadillac was in my name, I left it when I came home to have the baby but hehid from me where he was keeping it when I began asking for it back to turn it in.I was unaware that he had wrecked it and had to do some digging of my own tolocate it and have it picked up, Needless to say, I am left with the 924,000 bill.

Don't let Blanca fool you either, I know her all too well, and trust me, she is not asinnocent as she portrays herself to be. She was the nanny we hired when I waspregnant and she lived in my home for 3 months until I came back to have thebaby. At that time, I was told she was sent back home the day after I left as Ipatiently awaited the return of my husband to be with me and our new daughter.He still has yet to make any effort to meet or support her and she is 14 months old.

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dear elis, first... what do you think MY FAMILY WENT THOUGH. i don't have toexplain anything to anybody and i'm not going to talk about this stiuation for all tosee. but, i would like to talk to you and get ALL the information you have and or hadfor me and the legal system to have chad incarerated ( hopefully in a mexican jail)please, for just one moment, put your self in my familys'shoes. call me and we'llwork as a team.

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Coz-hotels has a couple members who have the connections to have his buttslammed in jail an the consulate ( who is on the island 24/7 ) over to help havehim to be deported back to the USA.

I saw the picture what does ANY WOMAN see in this guy?

Well ok I understand the chica's point oF view. . ,

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I assume he has not jumped bail or there would have not been this ditch and runthing going on in Mexico. Mexico is just to close and too easy to bring people backfrom whether they want to come or not.

But anyway I would post on the Coz boards. Coz doesnt look the other way like Ihave read on this board like they do in San Carlos.

If you have any papers that put him behind the wheel of daddies Caddy when itwas wrecked that is enough to get him so cooling off time in Coz while you GetYour Shi- together to have him deported.

Gregg if elisia is not all over helping you with this ? I would take another look atliterally where and how she is living. She right now from where I stand doesntseem very angry and she by all means ought to be VERY angry.

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I know the owner of a timeshare blog that is read by everyone in the timeshareindustry worldwide and lots of real estate people, finance/mortgage companies,etc. too. They often post things about crooked people and companies and I'm surethey would be willilng to post information about this guy too. If he's in Mexico,Belize or anywhere in Latin America where there's timeshare someone reading theblog might recognize him and rat him out. I'll tell them about this and have thempublicize it. Every bit helps, as they say. Is it alright if they post that picture of himtoo?

It should also be posted at other message forums, like maybe MazatlanhLtptl / www.whatsupmaz.com and Puerto Penascohttp://www.rockypointonline.com/RPForum/default.asp , where there's lotsof real estate investment going on,

Here's a message board for Ambergris Caye in Belizehttp://ambergriscaye.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi and one for Belize thewhole countryhttp z / / w ww. b el iz eforu m. com / cg i - b i n / u lt i m ate b b. cA i

You really need to get this story and picture widely circulated if you want to cut himoff at the knees.

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Swede those are great ideas as well !!!l!

I love the smell Napalm in the morning and burning this guy would be Wonderful.

Its been a number of Years but one of the Principle thieves in the SilveradoSaving and Loan scam was in time caught, in Mexico. He spent 18 months in aMexican Federal Prison in Chetumal Begging for extradition to the USAI He was ayoung con adist at the time and and managed to beat Extradition at first only tobeg for it later.

Its not fun being made into a gringa in a Mexican Prison.

Though he managed to hide much of the money and to keep it to this day forhimself. . . I dont know if t was at the time . . night after night. . worth it.

His Name is lohn and Lives on the island of Cozumel today.

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Burn them burn them allGates to warn others!

and when the flames go out hang them at the City

before anything was done. i would think with relitives stil living in mexcio, that apolice report for a stoleing vehicle woulod have done the job in the first place, whichmay have saved someone else from being scamed out of their money as well,

swed, thank you!! my son is coming down there for spring break and is going tothe media with pictures and doc's for the local authorities also. i also found out that

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uana: fi1 t"lff$ the web site dreamingglobal.com was put together posted from birmingham,mi.weeks before the two of them left in the middle of nite like thives. make no mistake,i will see chad in a mexican jail, not in a usa jail. but thank you all so very much foryour help, to chad, it's a big joke. right after i posted for all of your help, he calledmy message machine and left this message" your living in a dream world with allthe others if you think you can cath me". and laughing about itl thanks for all yourhelp and i'll use the info you provided

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elisia I Honestly you guys on here are something else. You do not know nothing at allMember I about me or my situation, you choose to assume that you do.I

I I've wasted the past year and a half of my life being miserable and if I choose not1'_::1; "'" ran 28th,2008 I to pursue anything other than the legalities he is left to face in the divorce and

posts: 3 | tating lway his custodial rights to m! daughter, that is my choice to leave this part.,".'i "m'r" I 9f tV life behind me. I choose to move forward, not dwell in the past, and give myMana: fit3fii3 | daughter the best possible life that I can given the circumstances because she is alj

that matters to me.

Not that I need to justify myself to any of you but I have been left empty handedwith nothing here but the love and support from an amazing family who helps metake care of my daughter until I am back on my feet.

In time you'll be glad to be back in a USA in a USlail hahahaha wait till you see.....wait till you hear . . wait till all you can do is beg for it to end or morning to come.

Just knowing what your time will be like in a Mexican jail should do everyonesheart some good.

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And for all of you who are sooooo smart, you would know that you cannot file avehicle stolen when you are married to the person because what was minewas "technically" his and divorces don't just happen overnight. Don't think I didn'ttry to do what I could.

I am VERY angry at what I have been left to deal with and the reputation that mydaughter has to grow up with of her father, I choose not to participate in thisfiasco mission because I know that karma is a bitch and God will ultimately makethe final decision on what happens to him. I've done wished him the best of luck.

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vin, tell them not to be embarrassed if thats what it is, chad has spent a life timeperfecting his schems and because he has no morels, he is good at it. maybe if thisperson really knew the damage chad has done, ruined lives and broke up familiesincluding his own, maybe he'll think twice about and go to the cops. but he has tobe stopped and i'll never stop until he's in jail. i kept the voice recorded message heleft me, laughing about people coming after him cause he took their money. havethis person contact me and i'll forward it to him and see if that will change theirmind

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yeah well...i know different elis. you guys lived pretty darn good for awhile on mymoney down there, remember? the beautiful ocean views and to have a live-in maidand such hard times ether. don't tell me you couldn't do anything about it. yoUknew he was running from the law and thats why you two left in the middle of thenite and didn't tell anybody..remember that. you guys left with the clothes on yourback after chad somehow got you signed onto my company and took all the moneyout.(i have the checks you did sign too). your just as guilty as far as i'm concerned,you had a home to come back too, i didn't. you didn't have to face all thoses peoplehe lied to and owed money too, i did. the truth is, elis is when the money ran outand the people down in cabo realised that chad was a theft, and haveing an affairwith your live-in maid, you went back home to live with mom and dad. you say yourout about 24000,00? what about the 73000.00 in loans that closed and all themoney got wired to cabo?yeah, i got proof on that too. i have a lot more then youthink. just what did you think would happen when you guys went to my bank andchad somehow got you to sign for the company? you didn't read what you wheresigning?well, all i know is when the money ran out, and you found out that chadwas going to dump you to, like all the others, you went home. me?? i had to sellmine and still couldn't quailifiy for a chapter 13... they made me do a chapter 7.don't cry to me about what your family went though, my family is still going thoughit. my kids needed a home to. yeah., and ihave all the pic's of you and chJd livingthe rich life in cabo that you sent me. yeah... you got it tough all right

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I will reply moreto this later, but for now. Elisia you not getting near what youdeserve YETI Your no better than he is , and your just trying to play the cop outgame and the poor poor me . . . I am THE VICTOM and a MOMMyI

I hold out little hope for a child born of the seeds from two such as you.

Sounds pretty guilty to me may you get what you deserve here and now and

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to witness that. i tried to get elisa to simply help get chadhe belongs. this mommy bit made me lose my composure. my

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Greg its very understandable . I am not even a party to this. I find myself quitePissed off at times when I read what has happened to you and others. How thesetwo scum bags Elisia and chad are stealing from people. How elisia is trying toscam her way out of it now that the money is gone for her anyway. Kind of likebeing a prostitute and being paid for her favours till a Better One a prettier Onecame along..... But she has a daily reminder and I hope it does every-time shelooks at her. A reminder of all the mistakes she made all the people she cheatedwhat a loser she is and how she is going to pay for all this some day. you whohave been defrauded by these scum trailer trash need to post everything you canon every board you can find. PICTURES!!!lAre very importanfl someday peoplewill be recognizing them on a daily basis and coming up and spitting on them inpublic! Imagine your almost 50 . your n a mall with your daughter a very loudperson comes up and confronts you yet again. This person is telling all within earshot of what thief you are and tosses printed copies from a web site on the groundand then sPITS! on You Again and again all the while those who have gatheredaround and are now reading what was printed applaud. . . .

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Does anyone have any information about his felony convictions? What were they,when, where, etc? was he on probation or anything? Actually serve time in someprison or other? Anyone know? I'm talking to the owner of that timeshare blog andthey're very interested in the story. what they really want is a "cohesive,, accountof what has happened, the more details the better so they can really write it upright.

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feeling this way. i've let myself get out of prospective and it won't help. what weneed to do is team up and coveft on where chad is and put him in jail. i'll sendanything to any legal source down there to you guys and transcripts that areneeded.thanks again...,...

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yes swede, i have a lot of useful info, jail time for a felony and more, i'll get that outto you in detail with attorney's names and charges, but no pic's of elisa... not withthe baby and all. don't get me wrong, but pic's of her won't help the cause, now.she knows what her part in this was. getting chad put in jail so he can't fraudanybody else is the goal now. i'll get you anything your people would need, andthanks for the support swede.greg

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You seem to be all over this board, maybe it would be best not to be so quick tochoose sides since you have no idea of what the situation entails. You are quick tobash Elsia but do you really know the circumstances? I know I do not and I wouldbe hesitant to make such quick judgement. I am not pro Chad by any means as itis obvious he is not a good person and has caused financial hardship and heartachewherever he goes. My statement is if you have no clue what you are talking aboutthen keep out of it. I hope you are able.

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*"*r, r:*:::::*.*:::*g-.1.1r.- :tllt::-1Thanks, Greg. That will be helpful, I'm sure. I agree that Chad is the focus, not hisex-wife. You can email me privately if you wantto at [email protected],or I can just pick up the info from the message board here and forward it to theblog, The blog, by the way, is called street ralk, If you want to look at it first, it'sat http://streettalkblog.com They have gotten themselves in trouble in the pastby reporting on crooked developers and "thieves" in the business, so although theyare pro-timeshare they are definitely also pro-consumer in a big way.

You might be interested in their reporting on a case that reminded me of yoursituation, that's kind of why I thought to refer this to them. There's an Americandeveloper out of cancun named Michael Kelly who was ripping off mostly elderlyAmericans with a real estate deal (something like $400 million worthl). This was abig, organized Ponzi scheme, not "small time" like Chad, but there are somesimilarities. Kelly finally got in trouble after several years of ripping people offbecause what he was selling via folks in the US was categorized as an investment,and the SEC and DoJ got after him. He was arrested when he came to the US formedical treatment and has been in .]ail for over a year now while they sort thingsout. There are differences from your situation, but the fact that chad has beenripping "investors" off in the US could be pertinent. If everyone would complainabout thal to their state Attorney General, eventually something might come of it,

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especially if the dollar amount was big enough.

If you're interested in reading about it, you canlooking it up and copying the URLs) .

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: You seem to be all over this board, maybe it would be best not to be so quick, to choose sides since you have no idea of what the situation entails. You are. quick to bash Elsia but do you really know the circumstances? I know I do not, and I would be hesitant to make such quick judgement. I am not pro Chad byI any means as it is obvious he is not a good person and has caused financial, hardship and headache wherever he goes. My statement is if you have no clue

what you are talking about then keep out of it. I hope you are able.

Each to his or her own opinion. Mine is not yours , I am tired of people cheatinglieing and stealing . Tired of seeing woman cry I was a victim too.

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i I went to the blog mentioned above and could not find anything about Chad E.

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I went to the blog mentioned above and could not find anything about Chad E.

I WILLIS. Is someone supposed to post rt? Thanks

I'm gathering information to send them so they can write a full article about it. PlusI sent them a link to this thread. They publish weekly, on Fridays, and I'm hopingthat with enough fadual information they can write a really bang up story on it thatmight get some notice in the communities Chad is most likely to 'visit'. At least, itcan't hurt! So wait until they publish something, it might be a couple of weeksdepending on how much factual info they can get and how fast, and I'll publish thelink to it here when it's up.

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Dos Amigos wrote:Diveoz,

You seem to be all over this board,

Well lets see I am a NAUI Instructor and Deep Air Diver and Spear fisherman

I instructed Scuba in Mexico

I owned a home and a Mexican registered car for numerous years

I owned and ran a small construction company in Mexico

I am still pad owner of a Motorcycle rental company in Mexico.

I am 56 and retired and looking to bring my sailboat to San Carlos Mexico andlive on it all along the eastern coast of the Sea of Codez paft of the time I amthere .

I have done some gel coat work lots of fiberglass repairs and custom car and Bikepainting . ( Gel coat repair thread)

For years I fixed things in peoples homes ( mostly friends) who lived on Cozumelthat had been done wrong. . .Plumbing and Electrical things. . .

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I just wanted to leave my 2 cents about this subject. I knew chad very well, he isactually my old brother-in-law. I knew him in michigan and colorado and anythinghe get's into is as crooked as anything that you could imagine, Don't touch this guywith a ten foot poll.

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thanks swede, you've been a huge help. thats what chad does, he looks for thesetype of people and try's to feed off the scrapes.i'll try to take full advantage of theinfo you gave me. just been so damn busy keeping my head above water. i'll let youknow how i made out. but have no doubt.... I WILL FIND yOU CHAD i know yourlistening..... and laughing......for now

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hey bigdog, any help you could give me? i pretty sure he still contacts jenny to tryand see chloe. last i remembered, she only did that when he came up with moneyfor the baby. anylhing to keep up on his where abouts would be helpful,..thanks

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There are numerous ways to deal with people of this kind. I, because of mypersonality and previous training most often deal with people up front forth rightand in their face. I hate the screaming little girl mentality of all those todaywho the first thing they yell after their lying stealing and cheating of other folks is .

. I will call my lawyer. But that said sometimes there is no other way. A directapproach can be costly but seldom as costly in the end as lawyers / Liars / you callthem what you want.

That someone lives with sleeps eats has children with a person for years and thenexpects me to believe" I Had no idea " get real! get a life! because the one yourliving is coming up short . . .

A crook a liar a cheat a lhief needs to be removed . . .remove it. Its no matter a

he or a she is like a cancer and it needs to be cut out and burned think autoclavehere hahahahaha.

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hey greg, However he managed it, he had chloe in mexico for awhile w/o jennaknowing where he was for awhile. She managed to get her back and I know shewas trying to get something out of him as far as child support but you can imaginehow that went. At one time he really seemed like he would be a good dad and takecare of jenna, but that quickly changed. I just don't understand how he is still notin jail. One of these days......

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If he had his daughter in Mexico, then she must have given permission for that.

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she gave permission for a week, not 3 months, and she didn't plan on spendingthousands on legal fee's to find them and get her back. Also, she is not the samegirl that your talking about. He has more than one kid.

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Greg, my heart goes out to you and your family. All the time and energy spent oncatching this moron could be spent enjoying life with your family. Sounds likechubby likes the tropics, but if you ever hear of him making his way to Alberta, wellthen, I am able to be of service.

The kids of chubby are also victims in this ongoing fiasco. How ever, Elisia, to bewith him as long as you were?? Living the good life knowing chubby wasn't workingother than to rip honest people off ll You people that may want to support herbecause "she to is a victim" , "Wake Up". She would have to be visually,awareness/ hearing and mentally challenged not to know what she was "involved"with. One con conning another, you reap what you sow Elisia. Just because youended up being replaced does not grant you forgiveness for your paft in destroyingpeoples lives. No sympathy here. Matter of fact it brings me a degree of comfortknowing that you received a small amount of what you probably have coming toyou,

Greg, I'm not sure from these posts if Chad has ever been tried or convicted of anyof the aforementioned crimes but I do know that from time to time "Americas Most

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Wanted " will do a piece on people that have been known to be con artists. It wouldtake more than one instance but it doesn't sound like there should be much troublepresenting a case for more than several cons. They insert in an episode that theauthorities would like to "question" this individual. Now before a small percentage ofyou bleeding heart, politically correct liberals go ballistic on me for mentioningsomething like this be done to an "innocent" man, I did say "KNOWN", That meansthat there is sufficient proof to bring him in for questioning. If you can get theAmerican authorities to get on side, the Mexican authorities will usually cooperate.Even if this tactic doesn't catch him, he would have his face all over national T.V.

I apologize to anyone (except Chad or Elisia) that may be olfended by my views butwe to are in the middle of something that may turn out to be a scam, so I still havea bit of a sour taste in my mouth.

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Excellent poste Swede!!l!! Sooner or later the fat boy is gonna scam the wrongperson. It is a crying shame the person here in San Carlos didn't have enoughcajones to nail him to the wall when they could have.

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That's not corred. If you try and get a visa, they may or may not ask for a letter ofpermission. I have been asked before at k21.

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i pertinent and like the last post will probably be removed by Bart as it should be. Ihave done what I can to inform people via this forum but it seems unlikely at thispoint that he will be brought to justice for what he has done in the past. It is morelikely that something he does in the future will be his downfall. Only if the peoplewho are cheated in the future stand up and go after him of course.

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harrasment?? do you even know the meaning? she is as guilty as chad was and is.the only reason she came back to michigan is she blew up to 300 lbs and got dumpfor thier live in maid. plus she still talks to him. they had a baby together. was itharrasment when they went to my bank and took all my money? all my loans? get

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Susura that is a great question and I wish the person who was robbed in San Carloswould answer that. As for Chads ex-wife if she is so guilty as Greg says why hasn'tanyone prosecuted her. I gave everyone involved, in the states and here in SanCarlos, exact information on where Ghad was in Cancun several months ago and no

one did anything about it, absolutely no one. I did what I could but, the dude isjust to good at what he does, he has by now married a Mexican probably has aMexican child and will be very hard to get unless he screws over a rich Mexican,which he wont do since he is to smaft for that. I almost wish I had never stadedthis thread to be honest with You.

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