roderick genealogly (a bit later than adam & eve)
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RODERICK GENEALOGLY
(A Bit Later than Adam & Eve)
Frederick IILandgrave of Hesse-Cassel
Married to daughter of King George II of Great Britain and Caroline of Ansbach (Germany).
King George III
Duke Carl I – Duke of Brunswick
HESSIAN SOLDIERS
GERMAN STATES SENDING SOLDIERS• Hessen-Kassel: 17,000• Hessen-Hanau: 2,600• Brunswick: 5,723• Waldeck: 1,225• Anhalt-Zerbst 1,119• Brandenburg-Anspach 1,040
HESSIAN SOLDIERS IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
Modern Germany (16 States)Many “Hessian” Soldiers came from Lower Saxony.
1789 Germany
BUT WHAT ABOUT
FREDERICK RODERICK
11 Questions to answer• 1. Was Frederick Roderick a “Hessian Soldier”?• • 2. If a German soldier, from which province? Hesse-Kassel, Hesse-Hanau, Brunswick, Waldeck, Anspach-
Bayreuth, or Anhalt-Zerbst. • • 3. If a German soldier, what was his German name?• • 4. Was Frederick a stonemason?• • 5. Was Frederick Roderick of German descent?• • 6. Did Frederick Roderick’s ship land on Staten Island near New York or elsewhere? • • 7. Did Frederick Roderick desert the British forces?• • 8. Did Frederick Roderick join Washington’s Army?• • 9. Did Frederick Roderick live in Charlottesville, Virginia?• • 10. The family history says that the German soldiers were “liberty-loving and decided to desert the
English Army at the first opportunity and help win the independence of the American people by joining American forces.” Is there evidence that this was the case?
• • 11. Was Frederick Roderick honorably discharged from the American Army?•
DNA Analysis
Roderick vs. Rothrock DNA
#Kit Last Name
H
G
393
390
19
391
385a
385b
426
388
439
389|1
392
389|2
458
459a
459b
455
454
447
437
448
449
464a
464b
464c
464d
464e
464f
464g
460
G
A
TA
H
4
YCA
II
a
YCA
II
b
456
607
576
570
CD
Y
a
CD
Y
b
442
438
531
578
395S1a
395S1b
590
537
641
472
406S1
511
425
413a
413b
557
594
436
490
534
450
444
481
520
446
617
568
487
572
640
492
565
German
1
53278
Rothrock
E1b1b1
12
24
13
11
15
19
11
12
11
13
11
30
2
130015
Hawk
E1b1b1
12
24
13
11
15
19
11
12
11
13
11
30
15 9 9 1
111
26
14
20
33
13
16
16
17
3
149527
Roderick
E1b1b1
12
24
13
11
15
19
11
12
11
13
11
30
15 9 9 1
111
26
14
20
33
13
16
16
17 9 1
119
21
17
13
17
19
32
34
13
10
4
69305
Roadruck
R1b1b2
12
24
14
11
11
14
12
12
12
13
13
30
16 9 1
011
11
24
15
19
28
15
15
16
17 1
111
19
23
16
14
17
17
34
38
12
12
5
14507
Roderick
I2b1
14
23
16
10
15
16
11
13
11
14
12
31
15 8 1
010
11
24
14
20
27
11
14
14
15 1
0 9 19
21
14
14
16
20
34
39
11
10
Roderick Haplogroup: I2b1Rothrock Haplogroup: E1b1b1Matches = 3 of 12 – means there is no relationship
Frequency Distribution of Haplogroup I2b1The center of haplogroup I2b1 is in Lower Saxony, Germany. The originator of this group must have lived in this area for a long time as so many members live here; perhaps Frederick Roderick.
The Viking (800 to 1066 A.D.)DYS# 390 = 23
HEDEBY, GERMANY – VIKING CITY
Northern Germany, Denmark, & Netherlands
MAP OF LOWER SAXONY AREA
LOWER SAXONY
COUNTIES OF LOWER SAXONY
3,000 YEAR OLD SKULL FROM LICHTENSTEIN CAVE – I2b2(Dorste, Lower Saxony, Germany)
Manfred Huchthausen and Uwe Lange, neighbors – closely related to each other and the skull.
GERMAN STONEMASONS
• Lower Saxony known as “Stonemason State”• Apprentices only accepted for 5 years.• Fathers (masons) can bind sons for 5 years.• Masters accept or declare apprentices “free”.• All done in presence of the lodge.• Frederick had to be 19 years or older in 1776.
WAS THERE A QUARRY IN LOWER SAXONY, GERMANY?
Yes there is!Obernkirchen, Lower Saxony
• “As one of the world's oldest active quarries, we have been supplying to projects throughout all of Europe and beyond for 1,000 years. Throughout this period, well-known master builders and architects have used our sandstone to create impressive edifices.
• In former times, the raw blocks were mostly quarried and hewn in one step. Initially, the master stonemasons and their assistants used muscle power and the simplest tools to break the blocks. Back then, as many as 27 master stonemasons quarried at the same time.
Are Brunswick, Obernkirchen, and Dorste Close to Each other?
Obernkirchen Quarry near Hameln—Braunschweig is “Brunswick” (Duke lived There)The Lichtenstein Cave is Near Osterode (30 miles from Hameln)
MODERN EUROPE
(SUGGESTED) HISTORY – MIGRATION OF MANKIND(Europe 50,000 years ago)
ICE AGE – 18,000 YEARS AGO
DOGGERLAND – 8,000 to 10,000 years ago
Haplogroups During Ice Age (18,000 years ago)
European Haplogroup Migration – After Ice Age (12,000 years ago)
M253 - ASgen --- 3500 yearsM253 - P --- 3450 yearsM253 – T2 --- 3330 yearsM253 – AS13 --- 3360 yearsM253 - AS1 --- 1920 yearsM253 – AS8 --- 2000 yearsM253 – AS2 --- 1920 yearsM253 – AS3 --- 2030 yearsM253 – AS4 --- 940 yearsM253 – AS7E --- 1630 yearsM253 – EE --- 1500 years
L22 - Norse --- 3000 yearsL22 – NuN14 --- 2750 yearsP109 --- 2730 yearsL22 – uN1 --- 2550 yearsL22– uN2 --- 1570 yearsL22 – uN9 --- 1800 yearsL22 – uN9a --- 1450 yearsL22 – Bothnia --- 1850 years
M26 – I2a1 --- 6000 yearsL161 – Isles-A --- 1500 yearsL161 – Isles-B --- 5370 yearsL161 – Isles-C --- 2730 yearsL161 – Isles-D --- 2520 yearsL69=T – Dinaric --- 2520 yearsL233 – Western --- 1860 years
M223 – I2b1* -- Roots --- 4650 yearsM223 -- Continental-1 --- 2430 yearsM223 -- Continental-2a --- 4140 yearsM223 – Continental-2b --- 3240 yearsM223 – Continental-2c --- 3450 yearsP78 – Continental-3 --- 4500 yearsM284 – Isles – Eng --- 3870 yearsM284 S165 – Isles – Scot --- 1730 Years
L38 --- I2b2 – 4100 years
S31(all) – I2* --- 7750 yearsS31-13 --- 4400 yearsS31-14 --- 4110 yearsS31-12 --- 2580 yearsS31-J --- 420 years
Estimated TMRCAs for Y Haplogroup I Clades
K Nordtvedt 1 May 2010
200400600
I2a3-Western
I2a2a-Dinaric
I2a1
I2a2b-Isles-C
I2a2b-Isles-BI2a2b-Isles-A
I2b2I2*-A
I1
I2*-B
I2b1a1-Isles-Scot
K Nordtvedt 4 Dec 2009Generations = 16 GD { 1 + .015 GD + .00018 GD^2 }
due to back mutationsGreen snps are very new and work products
Generations Ago
I2b1c-ContI2b1-Roots
I2b1-Cont
-6000-12,000-18,000 Years Ago
I2*-C
P30 P40 M253 M307 S62-66 S107-111, L157, L186-7 + lots more
L34,36,59=S151,152,157M223, S24P219-223 = S117-120
P215=S31
S23=P217 S30=P216S32=P218 S33=P214S150=L35 S153=L37L181
P37.2
M26 L158 L159
S165,166
P78
EstimatedPresent
Arrowheads indicate clade MRCAs
-24,000
M423
I2a*-F
L68=S140
L38-40,65 = S154-156,159
S163=L69=T
I1d S142=L22
DYS388=9
I2a2a-Disles
I2b1a*-Isles-EnglishM284
800
I2a2b-Isles-D
L161
L178
L160
Rescaled Haplogroup I Tree
L205, P109L258
I2a1a
L233
L234, L242
I2a*-Alps
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/
What About the 11 Questions?
11 Questions to answer• 1. Was Frederick Roderick a “Hessian Soldier”?• • 2. If a German soldier, from which province? Hesse-Kassel, Hesse-Hanau, Brunswick, Waldeck, Anspach-
Bayreuth, or Anhalt-Zerbst. • • 3. If a German soldier, what was his German name?• • 4. Was Frederick a stonemason?• • 5. Was Frederick Roderick of German descent?• • 6. Did Frederick Roderick’s ship land on Staten Island near New York or elsewhere? • • 7. Did Frederick Roderick desert the British forces?• • 8. Did Frederick Roderick join Washington’s Army?• • 9. Did Frederick Roderick live in Charlottesville, Virginia?• • 10. The family history says that the German soldiers were “liberty-loving and decided to desert the
English Army at the first opportunity and help win the independence of the American people by joining American forces.” Is there evidence that this was the case?
• • 11. Was Frederick Roderick honorably discharged from the American Army?•