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National Fire Protection Association
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M E M O R A N D U M
TO: NFPA Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and
Property
FROM: Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects
DATE: February 26, 2014
SUBJECT: NFPA 72 First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION (A2015)
The February 25, 2014 date for receipt of the NFPA 72 First Draft CC ballot has passed.
The preliminary First Draft ballot results are shown on the attached report.
20 Members Eligible to Vote
3 Ballots Not Returned (D. Aiken, J. Fannin, D. Klein)
In accordance with the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, attached are
the reasons for Negative votes for your review, along with any Abstentions and Affirmatives with
Comment. Ballots received from alternate members are not included unless the ballot from the
principal member was not received.
If you wish to change your vote, the change must be received on or before Tuesday, March 4,
2014. Members who have not returned a ballot may do so now. To cast your vote, or to
make changes to your vote, please submit via the NFPA Vote.net ballot site, link shown
below:
http://www.nfpa.org/catalog/services/customer/nfpa_committee_vote.asp
The return of ballots is required by the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA
Standards.
NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 15
Affirmative with Comment 1
Robert P. Schifiliti The following does not belong in a section on Plans Examiners: 10.5.4.2 Fire alarm
system and emergency communications system installations shall be inspected by
personnel who are qualified to perform such inspections.
Negative 1
Peter A. Larrimer The correlating committee adds a new section on requirements for plans
examiners and inspectors to recognize the need for qualifications for these
personnel. However, the added 10.5.4.3(3) allows the AHJ to assign plans
examiners and inspectors regardless of whether or not they have any qualifications
to do so. This effectively nullifies the any requirements for qualifications. It appears
that the Technical Committee on Fundamentals acted appropriately at the first
draft meeting when they resolved this and stated: “The qualification of the Plans
Examiners and Inspectors are already determined by the local AHJ.” and there is no
reason why this should have been addressed by the correlating committee.
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Election:72_A2015_SIG-AAC_FD_ballot
Results by Revision
FCR-15, Global Input, See FCR-15
FCR-17, Global Input, See FCR-17
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 16
Affirmative with Comment 1
Vic Humm The TC believes that the scope is limited to CO Alarms. Reference of UL 2075
includes both CO Alarms and CO detectorx this needs to be resolved during
comment period.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FCR-22, Global Input, See FCR-22
FCR-36, Section No. 2.2, See FCR-36
FCR-38, Global Input, See FCR-38
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FCR-12, Section No. 7.5.9, See FCR-12
FCR-2, Section No. 7.3.6, See FCR-2
FCR-11, Section No. 7.8.2, See FCR-11
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 16
Affirmative with Comment 1
Vic Humm New Class "N" communication pathways use isolated grounds and rely on
monitoring of end-to-end communication. This needs to be resolved in Public
Comment.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FCR-16, Section No. 10.12.1, See FCR-16
FCR-14, Section No. 10.6.7.2, See FCR-14
FCR-19, Section No. 12.6.1, See FCR-19
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 16
Affirmative with Comment 1
Vic Humm Wording needs to be revised to accomodiate Class "N:" pathways including fiber
optic which have isolated grounds and no ground does not bother.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FCR-18, Section No. 12.6.2, See FCR-18
FCR-30, Section No. 21.4.4, See FCR-30
FCR-29, Section No. 21.2.6, See FCR-29
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
FCR-33, Section No. 26.5.3.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections], See FCR-33
FCR-35, Section No. G.1.1, See FCR-35
FCR-32, New Section after A.24.3.1, See FCR-32
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 16
Affirmative with Comment 1
Vic Humm Include referfence to UL 464 for audibles and 1480 for speakers.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 16
Affirmative with Comment 1
Vic Humm Chapter 29 HOU needs to have required compliance as does the other chapters
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
CN-23, Section No. 7.1.6, See CN-23
FCR-37, Sections G.1.2.1, G.1.2.2, See FCR-37
CN-1, Section No. 7.2.1, See CN-1
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
CN-3, New Section after 7.3.7.3, See CN-3
CN-13, New Section after 7.7.1.4, See CN-13
CN-6, Section No. 7.5.7, See CN-6
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
CN-20, Section No. 12.6.14, See CN-20
CN-21, Section No. 12.2.4.2, See CN-21
CN-24, Section No. 17.1.3, See CN-24
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
CN-8, Section No. 21.1, See CN-8
CN-25, Section No. 23.1.2, See CN-25
CN-7, New Section after 21.3.4, See CN-7
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
CN-26, Section No. 24.1.3, See CN-26
CN-9, Section No. 24.3.7, See CN-9
CN-10, Section No. 24.4.2.8, See CN-10
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 16
Affirmative with Comment 1
Lynn Nielson I think that this CN-27 should have also directed chapter 29 to make the same
change to 29.1.3.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
CN-31, Section No. 24.6.4, See CN-31
CN-28, Section No. 27.1.4, See CN-28
CN-27, Section No. 26.1.2, See CN-27
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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Eligible to Vote: 20
Not Returned : 3
John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,
David F. Klein
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 17
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
CN-5, Section No. 27.5.3, See CN-5
CN-4, Section No. 27.3.7.4, See CN-4
CN-34, New Section after G.1.2.12.1, See CN-34
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