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Autodesk responds on Autodesk RobotStructural Analysis Pro

Question 1. How would you describe your software? What

materials / structural types does it support? What are itsstrengths / weaknesses?

Robot Structural Analysis Professional is used by design professionals in

multiple industries including buildings, plant, civil engineering structures.

It is capable of analysing multiple materials including steel, concrete and

timber and also supports in excess of 50 design codes from across te

!orld. Robot is capable of many analysis types including non linear,

dynamic and seismic.

Question 2. How does your software link to Reit? e.g. !oes it use

a plug"in? !oes it use file e#change or does it hae a dynamic

integration where you press a button in Reit and the model

appears in your software?

"anks to API#based interoperability te link transfers not only te data but

also meta#data tat captures te logic and intentions bet!een tose t!o

products. $eing able to maintain tis logic allo!s for multiple design

iterations bet!een Revit and Robot, !ilst maintaining te integrity of te

model, in line !it te $I% paradigm.

Question $. What data do you support in your bi"directional link to

Reit? e.g. grids% leels% members% slabs% loads &point% line% area

and wind'% load combinations% support conditions% end releases.

"ere is a lot of data linked bet!een bot Robot and Revit. At a basic level

tat includes settings like levels and grids. Practically all types of structural

elements and teir attributes are transferred, suc as release conditions,

offsets, rigid links, loads and load combinations.

()!* responds on its link for *(+),ngineer

Question 1. How would you describe your software? What

materials / structural types does it support? What are its

strengths / weaknesses?

Scia &ngineer is an integrated, multi#material platform for te analysis and

design of all kinds of pro'ects, civil or structural, big or small.

Scia &ngineer !ill analyse any material and design multiple types in one

model e.g. steel, concrete, timber and aluminium etc. to $ritis or &urocode

Annexes.

It !ill design all types of structure, buildings, !ater treatment tanks, bridges,

pumping stations etc. &lements suc as beams, columns, bracing members,

slabs and !alls can be simple or complex in geometry including curved and

!it openings in beam !ebs and slabs.

Question 2. How does your software link to Reit? e.g. !oes it use

a plug"in? !oes it use file e#change or does it hae a dynamic

integration where you press a button in Reit and the model

appears in your software?

Scia &ngineer, using (A)S Revit *ink, a plug#in to Revit and Scia &ngineer,

as a bi#directional link to Revit. It uses a user option of eiter file excange

or dynamic integration.

Question $. What data do you support in your bi"directional link to

Reit? e.g. grids% leels% members% slabs% loads &point% line% areaand wind'% load combinations% support conditions% end releases.

"e link supports levels, members, slabs, loads, +point, line, area and !ind

and load combinations, support conditions and end releases.



In addition, te results of analysis from Robot, suc as reactions, internal

forces and displacements are also transferred back to Revit so tat

engineers and designers can visuali-e results and potentially use te code

cecking frame!ork in Revit to drive detailing and code compliance.

Question -. !oes your bi"directional link support information that

Reit isnt necessarily interested in to help maintain the richnessof the analysis model on round trips. e.g. member numbers% node

numbers% how members are restrained% code"based design

information.

es, tere are some reference data tat are stored on bot sides +Revit and

Robot in order to preserve exclusive information kept in bot programs to

support truly bi#directional nature of te link / tis includes node and

member numbers, member names tat te user as defined, groups and

also code ceck parameters.

Question 0. How do you track and handle changes made to modelsin Reit and your software? e.g. notification of adds% remoes% and

edits. How changes are accepted / reected.

p front te user may decide !ic portions of models can be transferred or

get updated. A detailed report is presented as !ell as grapical selection to

better andle and autorise canges.

Question . 3ooking to the future are you planning to make use of

Reits new code checking framework? ,.g. to populate Reit with

rebar% steels si4es and connection si4es.

In line !it Autodesk1s pilosopy to ave an open partner arrangement, !e

ave opened te code cecking frame!ork in Revit to allo! 2rd parties to

deliver local country specific (ode cecking capabilities for Revit, tereby

driving $I% to detailing !orkflo!s.

Question 5. !o you proide links to other structural 6+7

applications? ,.g. 8ekla *tructures% 6entley ),(9sim.

Question -. !oes your bi"directional link support information that

Reit isnt necessarily interested in to help maintain the richness

of the analysis model on round trips. e.g. member numbers% node

numbers% how members are restrained% code"based designinformation.

es, data !itin te analytical model, uni3ue member names and releases,

node numbers etc., are excanged !ic enables te analysis model to be

kept as data ric as possible during te roundtrip process.

Question 0. How do you track and handle changes made to models

in Reit and your software? e.g. notification of adds% remoes% and

edits. How changes are accepted / reected.

"ere is an option !itin te Revit *ink to vie! canges as igligted

items. sers can also send teir o!n selected items from Revit to Scia&ngineer tereby aving control over !at is updated by design canges in

Scia &ngineer. In bot tese cases tere is a log file listing all te canges.

A ne! release is due !ereby tese tools !ill be enanced to allo! te user

to manage te canges more proactively.

Question . 3ooking to the future are you planning to make use of

Reits new code checking framework? ,.g. to populate Reit with

rebar% steels si4es and connection si4es.

es, !e are planning to revie! te ne! code ceck frame!ork.

Question 5. !o you proide links to other structural 6+7applications? ,.g. 8ekla *tructures% 6entley ),(9sim.

es, Scia &ngineer is a fully 4pen $I% certified using te vendor neutral I(

excange format. "is makes it possible to link to all oter 670 or so I(

supporting solutions suc as Arcicad, 8ector!orks, $entley etc, as !ell as

a proprietary link to "ekla.



Autodesk as a very open partner policy and makes te API for analysis

integration open to any 2rd party analysis vendor tat !ises to develop a

link. 9e ave built very strong partner relations !it many analysis vendors

tat add great value to our mutual customers. Autodesk also supports many

interoperability initiatives and !e ave been long#term developers and

drivers around I(.

Comments about Robot

• For me the best is ROBOT STRUCTURAL.

• I have a really good opinion abot robot str!tral. And it"seasier intera!tion #ith revit is also an advantage.

• I have sed robot str!tral and I !an say that it !anprovide good analysis and a!!rate reslts.

• I li$e RSA% I thin$ it spports &lly str!tral engineers &or

designing bildings.

• Robot all the #ay' (ot )st a!!rate% bt easy to intergrate

#ith other so&t#are s!h as Revit * ma$ing pro)e!ts m!h% m!h less tedios as yo dont have

to mess abot #ith !ompatibility isses.

• +oing to thro# in my t#o !ents &or Robot...it"s really good&or analysing beam elements and adding !laddings. It"s also really ,ite po#er&l o-ering many analysis

&eatres &or a really high end analysis pa!$age modal in!lding seismi! analysis% &oot&all analysis et!/.

That said% modelling anything #ith plates !an be a nightmare% parti!larly #hen geometry is !omple0. 1o

have to se the additional e0!el sheetsthat yo #ill 2nd on the &orms to &re,ently !orre!t

Comments about SCIA

• I have only sed SCIA' It is really good and it !overs all the

important !lases o& the 3ro!odes

• I 2nd SCIA the best be!ase o& it"s overall !omple0

&n!tions in a ,ite ser &riendly inter&a!e.

And I li$e the report ma$ing also.

• Use SCIA several years. I thin$ SCIA best !hoi!e &or

3ro!odes'

• I #ill not advise yo to invest in Robot. Indeed% it loo$s thatthe innovation in this So&t#are is stopped. Also% it is very

hard sometimes to re!eive the reslts yo #ant to see.

4e start #ith Robot in 5667 and #ill stop no# sing it and

ma$e a move to S!ia 3ngineer.



geometry again di8!lt to do #ith !omple0 geometry/. Also there are some odd aspe!ts #here models #ill !orrpt

and be pretty m!h nre!overable/%tapered beam members #ill sometimes not design !orre!tly

it #ill apply the moment &rom the largestpart to the smallest part...even #or$ing !orre!t &or some

beams in a model and not &or others/.

• 4e are in or !ompany sing both programmes &or

str!tral analysis.Robot is developed already on great level and programme

spport is ama9ing Atodes$ Comminities:Forms/.

• I !an only !omment on Robot. 4hen I 2rst started #or$ing

#ith it% I thoght it #as !hallenging to learn bt on!e I be!ame &amiliar #ith it% I"ve &ond it to be a very po#er&l

so&t#are #ith a strong A;I% a &ll !omplement o&analysis types% ability to do shell and solids modeling% an

easily !stomi9able report generator% &ll <d !on!rete rebar design:dra#ings% and even very po#er&l atomated

load !ombinations really po#er&l/.

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