problem with speedway dd(i think)
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Anybody get their DD yet General Invicta Watch Discussions 405 hp 27 262 Problem with Speedway DD(I think) General Invicta Watch Discussions scamp 28 367 405 hp Senior Member Veteran Geek 02- 15- 2011 06:08 PM 02- 18- 2011 08:36 AM 02- 15- 2011 04:53 PM My new Invicta Speedway DD does'nt hit the endices perfectly on the minute hand it is about 15 sec.slow. Looks like a slight misalginment on the minute hand.Is this a deal breaker. Today, 08:36 AM 3 Lastest Threads by 405 hpTRANSCRIPT
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Problem with Speedway DD(I think)
My new Invicta Speedway DD does'nt hit the endices perfectly on the minute hand it is about 15
sec.slow. Looks like a slight misalginment on the minute hand.Is this a deal breaker.
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not sure I understand the 1st part of your statement ???? and 15 sec slow over how long a period
of time?
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???....pull the crown out and set it correctly??
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Are you talking about the chrono minute counter?
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If all hands dont line up when you reset it you have a problem.The exception being your small
seconds hand it will keep moving.
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I am sorry if I was'nt clear,it is the clock 8:30,8:35 the minute hand does'nt hit the endice right in
the center, it is about 15-20 seconds slow before the minute hand is direct center of the minute
markers like at 5,10,15,20, minute markers
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I am sorry if I was'nt clear,it is the clock 8:30,8:35 the minute hand does'nt hit the endice right
in the center, it is about 15-20 seconds slow before the minute hand is direct center of the
minute markers like at 5,10,15,20, minute markers
Just set the minute hand to the middle of the marker when the seconds counter is at 60? What am
I missing?
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I did that and when itgoes to let say 8:30 to 8:35 when the second hand is at 0 the minute hand is
not quite on 8:35,it is not perfectly centered. I did stop the watch at 0 seconds and adjust the
minute hand exactly but when it goes to the next endice it is about 15-20 second slow of hitting
dead center of endice.I hope I explained it completly now.
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Just set the minute hand to the middle of the marker when the seconds counter is at 60? What
am I missing?
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I did that and when itgoes to let say 8:30 to 8:35 when the second hand is at 0 the minute hand
is not quite on 8:35,it is not perfectly centered. I did stop the watch at 0 seconds and adjust the
minute hand exactly but when it goes to the next endice it is about 15-20 second slow of hitting
dead center of endice.I hope I explained it completly now.
Not sure I have an explanation for that. Perhaps set the watch perfectly, let it run for 12 hours
and see where you are at. If the problem is as you state, you will notice the time being
completely off in a 12 hour period ny at least a few minutes. If it is perhaps only misalignment
on one or two of the marker placements, then maybe you have an easier time just dealing with it.
I have experienced your situation on quartz movements but never with an automatic.
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I also would suggest running the watch over the weekend & see if it gets back in sync?
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I think I understand what he's saying...when his second hand strikes zero indicating a new
minute say, from 7:59 to 8:00 for instance, he expects the minute hand to be directly over the 12
o'clock position. It's not quite there and it only gets there about 10-15 seconds after the second
hand has hit zero. I'm sure when he set the watch he set his minute hand perfectly over the
intended minute mark and when the time hit, he pushed the crown in hoping that it would be
synced perfectly for the minute and second. I have the same thing with my SAS 7750...the only
thing you can do is set the minute hand just slightly ahead of the marker before you push the
crown in to start the time...it seems to work for me with my SAS. I have the DD speedway and I
noticed this last night as well. I don't think there is anything wrong with your watch...give it a try
and see what happens.
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I would send it back if it wasn't perfect. You are obviously a perfectionist. This may not be a
good watch for you.
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This is 100% right what you wrote.is this a deal breaker for a $800.00 watch
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I think I understand what he's saying...when his second hand strikes zero indicating a new
minute say, from 7:59 to 8:00 for instance, he expects the minute hand to be directly over the
12 o'clock position. It's not quite there and it only gets there about 10-15 seconds after the
second hand has hit zero. I'm sure when he set the watch he set his minute hand perfectly over
the intended minute mark and when the time hit, he pushed the crown in hoping that it would
be synced perfectly for the minute and second. I have the same thing with my SAS 7750...the
only thing you can do is set the minute hand just slightly ahead of the marker before you push
the crown in to start the time...it seems to work for me with my SAS. I have the DD speedway
and I noticed this last night as well. I don't think there is anything wrong with your
watch...give it a try and see what happens.
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This is 100% right what you wrote.is this a deal breaker for a $800.00 watch
only you can answer that, if you are ok with it then fine. If on the other hand it bugs the crap out
of you everytime you look at it, send it back.
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...deal breaker, send it back.
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If I understand correctly, you need to set the minute hand about 30s ahead (i.e, when setting the
time for 2:00, the minute hand would be between the 2:00 and 2:01 marker when the seconds
hand is at zero).
Due to the gear train slop inherent in the movement, it takes about 30s of play to 'catch up'
I have to do the same for my Omega Speedmaster reduced (uses the same movement and it's a
common 'issue' for owners of the module).
It may take a few tries to get the minute hand set exactly right so it hits the minute marker when
the seconds hand hits zero.
HTH
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I think you are right Lou,The watch does'nt seem to be losing time,what do you think deal
breaker or should I keep it.
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If I understand correctly, you need to set the minute hand about 30s ahead (i.e, when setting
the time for 2:00, the minute hand would be between the 2:00 and 2:01 marker when the
seconds hand is at zero).
Due to the gear train slop inherent in the movement, it takes about 30s of play to 'catch up'
I have to do the same for my Omega Speedmaster reduced (uses the same movement and it's a
common 'issue' for owners of the module).
It may take a few tries to get the minute hand set exactly right so it hits the minute marker
when the seconds hand hits zero.
HTH
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I completely understand what you are saying.
With that said make sure YOU are not being effected by a parallax view!
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It does not sound like a huge issue and if it was me, I might be tempted to overlook it. Give
a try to some of the suggestions you have been given here. However, understand that a
small issue with this - or any other - movement, might be an indicator of a much greater
issue later on. If it really bothers you, send it back for a warranty repair. Hopefully, in like
five months, or so, you should get it back in great shape.
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Bluloo is right. I also have a Speedy Reduced with the same movement - the "slop" is a "feature"
of the movement, not a defect. You just need to adjust for it when setting it.
It's been a point of discussion a couple of times on the Omega forums.
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I think you are right Lou,The watch does'nt seem to be losing time,what do you think deal
breaker or should I keep it.
It's a quirk of the module, AFAIK most, if not all do it.
Seeing this doesn't mean it's not working as is is supposed to.
My Omega does the same thing (you can do a Google search for similar issues among Speedy
Reduced owners and see that it's not an uncommon question).
I love my Speedy and see it as part of the 'charm'.
Doesn't seem like there's anything to be concerned about, as far as the movement working
properly.
If you like the watch, no reason not to keep it.
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That is why I love this site and the vast knowledge of the watchgeeks,I am just a novice and
fairly new collector,I am just trying to learn more without getting excited and saying this watch
is junk right away .I think I can live with this as long as it does'nt start losing time.Thanks Lou
for the info.
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This is 100% right what you wrote.is this a deal breaker for a $800.00 watch
Greg -
I don't think it's a deal breaker at all. All watches (even expensive ones) do this to some extent.
Like previous posters have said, there is some natural play in the gear train and it takes a from a
few to several seconds for all the "slack" to be taken up before the minute hand starts to move.
As has already been suggested, when you're setting it, just set your minute hand a bit off the
mark to make up for difference. Another thing to try is when setting the minute hand, move it
just past where you want to set it (by only a few minutes) then back the minute hand up to where
you want it. This helps take up some of that slack or free play in the gear train. Gook Luck!
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Bluloo is right. I also have a Speedy Reduced with the same movement - the "slop" is a
"feature" of the movement, not a defect. You just need to adjust for it when setting it.
It's been a point of discussion a couple of times on the Omega forums.
Agree, I have a 2894-2 movement that behaves in this fashion.
There is built in play.
To compensate, I need to advance the hand clockwise to the mark +15 seconds, then it syncs
up.
ALSO MAKE NOTE of this, I need to advance the hand clockwise/forward.
IF I go backwards to the mark, it literally takes 3 minutes for the slop to catch up, then my time
would be off by three minutes.
This is actually an annoyance to me, but a method that I have to endure to enjoy this movement.
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Greg , try setting it 30 seconds ahead that was good advice it should
be fine after that . Good Luck
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I too am in the camp of try setting the time several different ways to see if you can take out the
"slop" in the gear train. Also, post your issue in "From the Watchmaker's Bench."
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As someone suggested when setting the watch go 5-10 minutes ahead and go back to the correct
time.
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