Copyright & Piracy

And the Evolution of the Internet.

Copyright, Piracy, The Evolution Of Internet

1. What is copyright?"Copyright is a legal concept, enacted by most governments, giving the creator of an original work exclusive rights to it, usually for a limited time" -- World Intellectual Property Organisation (2008) "Understanding Copyright and Related Rights"

2. The Evolution Of Internet & Copyright."The idea that major copyright treaties should be negotiated in secret is losing traction around the world. Legislators from all the ACTA negotiating countries are demanding that this process be opened up to the press, activist groups, and the public." -- Cory Doctorow (2010) "Copyright Undercover: ACTA & the Web"

Copyright, Piracy, The Evolution Of Internet

● US copyright Laws:○ Copyright Act of 1790○ Copyright Act of 1831○ Copyright Act of 1909○ Universal Copyright Convention - ratified by the U.S. in 1954, and again in 1971○ Copyright Act of 1976○ Berne Convention Implementation Act of 1988○ Copyright Renewal Act of 1992○ Uruguay Round Agreements Act (URAA) of 1994○ Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998○ Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998

● Piracy vs. Copyright: what fuels the future for content?

Copyright, Piracy, The Evolution Of InternetIntroAchtergrond, n.a.v.: http://goo.gl/WB0Bo TED: Clay Shirky: Why SOPA is a bad idea:Timeline: hoe was alles, welke wetten werden er gehandhaafdsnel richting recente zaken; het is namelijk waar we het over gaan hebben in de presentatie en we moeten snel zijn met tijd.- Copyright Renewal Act of 1992- Uruguay Round Agreements Act (URAA) of 1994- Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 (herzien: Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 )

Vervolgens:Die laatste wet staat nog steeds: “To meet the treaty requirements, protections were extended to architecture (where previously only building plans were protected from copying, not buildings, though currently the law makes exception for reproduction of buildings in photographs or paintings if they are ordinarily visible from a public place), and certain moral rights of visual artists.”Maar is deze wet nog wel te handhaven? Hij stamt van 1998 af, toen het internet pas enkele jaren particulier gebruikt werd, en het linken naar, kopieren en veranderen van naar elkaars content ontstond en exponentiëel groeide -> zijn deze wetten nog adequaat?

Partijen moeten voorgesteld worden:A. John Doe Onderscheid maken tussen experts en non-experts? Of bij elk statement (te) onwetend overkomen, wat leidt tot vaak dezelfde antwoorden? (bijv. :”ik wist niet dat er een bill kwam” of “ik blijf gewoon downloaden, mij maakt het niet uit“. Verwijzingen noemen lijkt me in dit geval een beetje overbodig, tenzij dus de mening wat genuanceerder is.)Denk hierbij aan wat dat engelse meisje zei mbt “het maakt mij niet uit dat alle bedrijven weten wat ik 24 uur van de dag doe”? Dat een beetje? Wordt moeilijk voor je man ;) Mwja inderdaad. Ik kan beter geen onderscheiding maken tussen expert. en non-expert. En ja als onwetende ben je snel de klos =P. Sucks to be me.B. Media Companies, misschien een bekende game-ontwikkelaar zoals Will Wright of een fictief persoon (om in dat geval geen meningen te verkondigen waar hij het niet mee eens zou zijn)?C. Artiest, een bassist van een willekeurige band met een deal bij een groot label.D. Distributors (Copyers/Downloaders/Pirates)Discussiepunten en meningen (5 a 5 min)QUESTIONS ON THE SHEETS

1. Copying a book and lending it to a neighbour is a violation of copyright.a. opinion John Doe

I thought violation of copyright and piracy were the same things? Anyway, I think that depends on whether or not the person you lend it to is making some of copied material out of it, like taking a photograph or copying certain pages. Self-made notes about the content wouldn’t suffice as piracy, would it? I see lending a person your book is also lending your right to use that item to another person: still only one person uses that book at the same time. When multiple persons uses content meant for one person, that counts as copying so it should be penalised.

a. opinion media companiesb. opinion artists

[ik vind dit erg moeilijk; een paar google queries leveren op dat er wat bewegingen zijn van schrijvers tegen piracy, en dat er een paar blogposts zijn over hoe erg het wel niet is, maar nergens staat of het wat meer of minder te lijden heeft dan de muziek/filmindustrie]

c. opinion pirates1. A violation of copyright is “piracy”.

a. opinion John DoeCopyright is like you buy a product, but instead of using it just for yourself, you copy it. This way, the product originally intend for one person gets to more than one person, violating copyright. But piracy is from my point of view deviated from the classical pirates such as in the movie Pirates of the Caribbean. These pirates steal stuff and keep it for themselves; there is no mean of copying treasures. Piracy is by this definition stealing content and making profit out of it, but it is not copying. A violation of copyright is it as well, because when you steal something, it leaves the rightful owner and get ito the hands of an unrightful owner. So in short, the answer is ‘yes’, because stealing results in a loss of the rightful owner (who paid for it)

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates

2. You can live without violating copyright.a. opinion John Doe

Well, life is bound to be a bit more expensive if you would pay for absolutely everything, but I guess it wouldn’t be impossible. This only if presumed I would use as much content as I would now. I reality, I guess that I would use ess media that is copyrighted, because it costs money. Would’ve been a bit of a sucky life, since I’m a big fan of stuff like films and music, which I all download illegally.

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates

3. Companies should adapt their business models to new technology usage.a. opinion John Doe

This has something to do with the fact that, as a result of illegal downloads, record labels and movie making companies make less money as they should without illegal downloads. But don’t really have an idea about how the business model is implemented by those companies. Maybe they should make the media a lot cheaper, so the people who respect these companies and artists pay less for a digital download instead of hesitating of buying a more expensive DVD, BlueRay or CD? This way, the threshold would be a bit lower and the costs of making the media available for the people (less material costs and more online advertising) would be lower.

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates

4. The law will be eventually be able to keep up with the changing methods of copying..a. opinion John Doe

At the moment, laws are really falling behind so in the near future, this keeping up is completely impossible. Maybe, when the development of technology gets on to some sort of plateau of complexity, laws would eventually have time to catch up with it. There are so many possibilities of copying stuff so it is difficult to really make a lineair boundary between non-copying and copying. For example, is copying a page with a copying machine a violation of copyright when writing the same page as a hand-written note is not? Therefore, does writing these hand-written notes on a copied paper make the paper lose it’s copyright, because it is changed by a third party?

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates

5. New question: Everyone should be punished for piracy or violation of copyright and depending on the gravity of the offence, a sum of money should be paid.

a. opinion John DoeYou have to be reasonable; punishing everyone for a violation of copyright is like punishing every drunk person on the street on a Friday night; it’s undoable. Only the worst should be punished.

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates

6. New question: we have entered a new and digital era. More alternatives to current media should be developedlijkt alleen sterk op de businessmodel discussie. interessant is wel om na tedenken of huidige dingen verbeterd moeten worden icm de wetvoering (ergo: ALLES een keer op spotify gooien ipv het wiel opnieuw uitvinden)

a. opinion john doeb. opinion mediac. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates:

7. To what extent is it good that organisations like BREIN operate?wat betekent BREIN nou voor de media en artists? hoe hindert het piraterij en john doe? wat betekent hun huidige strategie (censuur) voor de toekomst van het internet?

a. opinion john doeb. opinion mediac. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates:

8. Anti-piracy organisation do what we are funding them fora. opinion john doe

We pay tax, we don’t know how much it’s really helping. Pirate Bay is not really doing something wrong; they’re about spreading torrent files, but not the files itself. Like transportation of illegal fireworks.

QUESTIONS NOT ON THE SHEETS / OLD QUESTIONS

9. What is your opinion on copyright and piracy?a. opinion John Doe:

- “I want to do what I want to do. There are so many people downloading. - I didn’t know about the specifics of this bill and don’t understand how this will change anything? I don’t download copyrighted material.”- I think that the corporations make enough money to withstand copyright and piracy. It won’t get them bankrupt.“ It is astonishing what is happening. The internet is the most free "press" we have....it must not be squashed in any way. The corporations that are for this...we need to watch them and let everyone know what they are up to...stealing our freedom to make more profits” - Lilly Summer, Facebook.“ SOPA and PIPA won't stop the freedom of speech on the internet, it's like an hydra... you can cut one head but 2 more shall rise. “ -Vince Boyzo, FaceBook.“ I have not completely read the bills but my general feeling is I DO NOT trust the federal government and in general most of the legislation that is meant to correct something usually makes it worse. So my gut reaction is to leave it alone and leave the issue to current patent and copyright law. How is internet piracy any different than other IP piracy. Why do we need any more laws than we already have? “ Lynda J. Roth, Facebook

b. opinion media companiesWhat companies are publicly supporting SOPA/PROTECT-IP?What companies are publicly opposing SOPA/PROTECT-IP?“Paul Vixie: SOPA/PIPA Would Be Good For My Business, But I'm Still Against It” - Paul Vixie (is an American Internet pioneer, the author of several RFCs and well-known Unix software author)On November 15, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Zynga, eBay, Mozilla, Yahoo, AOL, and LinkedIn wrote a letter to key members of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, saying SOPA poses "a serious risk to our industry's continued track record of innovation and job creation, as well as to our nation's cybersecurity. (source)Michael O'Leary, who oversees policy and external affairs for the Motion Picture Association of America, the trade group for the top film studios, will tell lawmakers that "fundamentally" the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) is about saving jobs. (source)

c. opinion artistsWhat is actually on the bill → The Library of Congress - Bill Text“I have heard from the critics and I take seriously their concerns regarding proposed legislation to address the problem of online piracy. It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products. We need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products. "The problem of online piracy is too big to ignore. American intellectual property industries provide 19 million high-paying jobs and account for more than 60% of U.S. exports. The theft of America's intellectual property costs the U.S. economy more than $100 billion annually and results in the loss of thousands of American jobs. Congress cannot stand by and do nothing while American innovators and job creators are under attack.” - Lamar Smith, author of the bill. (source)The above is moot as we’ve decided not to let the government take part of the discussionopinion artists:25% of the well-known artists have less income than before, while the other 75% have more. there’s a couple of explainations for that:- pirates download music from popular artists because it’s shared better. they can save money in order to buy less popular music- people can discover music for free- there is a rise in income for concerts -> more interest, probably thanks to communities like pandora and last.fm.source (see references also) http://torrentfreak.com/why-most-artists-profit-from-piracy/also a valid point: people who “pirate” your work would’ve probably not even have spent money on your work anyway.

d. opinion piratesThe Pirate Bay: “SOPA houdt ons niet tegen” (source)

Anonymous Lists Their Demands (source) - We believe a healthy society doesn’t allow its artists, musicians and other creators to starve. The copyright industry has been justly criticized for abusing the political process in a desperate attempt to maintain its role as a cultural gatekeeper, a business model made obsolete by a digital age of free copies. But the RIAA, MPAA & IFPI deserve our opprobrium for making enormous profits while often leaving the very artists it claims to represent *poorer* than they would be as independents. While the public may have greater access to the few artists deemed sufficiently marketable to gain mass media promotion, fewer and fewer of us are making art and music in our own lives.Russia's Internet Pirates Against SOPA (source) - “If these bills are adopted, U.S. judges would get the legal right to block the Russian social network Vkontakte as internet pirate, as well as Twitter and Facebook,” Pirate Party member Sergei Kolennik, 26,told Ria Novosti newswire in Moscow on Wednesday.A dozen party members attempted to stage a rally near the U.S. embassy in Moscow but were prevented by police. Two were arrested. Ria Novosti got a picture of this one guy, a lone wolf in the ex-pat Russian pirates fight against SOPA. The activists managed to pass a petition to U.S. Ambassador Michael McFaul through the embassy’s post office.“We ask you not to remain indifferent but to convey to the U.S. public and government how important it is for the democratic future of Russia to save the freedom of internet,”

10. Is copying two dvd’s for a neighbour and receiving a small payment for the favor a violation of copyright? Is it also piracy? Why?

a. opinion John DoeThis one is easy! Because you don’t give money to the rightful creators of the media there should be some case of violation of copyright. Whether or not you recieve money for it is irrelevant.

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artists

well, you know, dvd’s cost money. but profit should be ours. hey, maybe we should ask pirates to donate their profits to us so they can be our agents ;-)

d. opinion pirates11. What’s the best way to protect against online Piracy?

a. opinion John DoeI would prevent stuff sensitive to piracy from coming online. When I am forced to do this, I don’t have a choice and have to accept the risk of piracy. I could minimise it by applying filters on certain social networks, though. In general I just have to be careful, but piracy is everywhere I guess.

b. opinion media companies7 Ways to Prevent Piracy - Juuso, game-developer.Microsoft Product Activation TechnologySUE THE BASTARDS!

c. opinion artistsThese Two Bills Are the Best Approach - Chris Dodd, a former U.S. senator who represented Connecticut from 1981 to 2011, is the C.E.O. and chairman of the Motion Picture Association of America. (source)

A prominent Russian intellectual property lawyer Svetlana Kokina told Ria Novosti on Wednesday that even if SOPA were adopted it would not impede copyright and intellectual property infringement of U.S. companies.“It’s impossible to tackle internet piracy,” she said. “Several attempts have already been made and they failed.”(source)The above is moot as we’ve decided not to let the government take part of the discussionconnect with the fans -- if you can get them to grant you the money for a cd, they will. true fans will buy your work out of support.piracy costs a lot of money to stop and it seems better to think of alternatives instead of stopping it.

d. opinion piratesIt´s not possible if the software is online. (not sure about this one, though)List of protective technology (encrypion methods, advanced code-verification methods) Ik zoek nog een source, maar het idee van de zo gedefinieerde “pirates” is veelal dat de definitie van Piracy aangepast moet worden. Beschermen tegen andere zaken ipv het kopieeren/delen.stop the internet itself, as it’s purpose is to copy information from one computer to another

12. Integriteit creatief / intellectueel eigendom opiniona. opinion John Doe

When something belongs to me and it’s meant for me to make some money out of it, it’s logical that I am quite frustrated by it when it is copied without my permission. If this loss of money is not taken into account, wouldn’t it be a form of a compliment if someone would be using your content? I would be maybe even a bit flattered! Still the potential loss of money bothers me.

b. opinion media companies“Lesson 1: Obscurity is a far greater threat to authors and creative artists than piracy. Lesson 2: Piracy is progressive taxation. Lesson 3: Customers want to do the right thing, if they can. Lesson 4: Shoplifting is a bigger threat than piracy. “ - Tim O’Reilly, the founder and CEO of O'Reilly Media, Inc., thought by many to be the best computer book publisher in the world. (source)

c. opinion artists[lastig, moet ik op terugkomen]

d. opinion pirates

SOPA helps protect “a business model made obsolete by a digital age of free copies. “ The copyright industry do not try to change their business model to fit today's possibilities of digital distribution. But instead try to sue / block the people that do.

13. What do you think should be protected? -> Erg moeilijk in een goede discussie.a. opinion John Doe

The content you create yourself and the content of others that you ‘borrow’. You cannot spread/copy/share this content without the permission of the owners. But on the other hand, when you alter this content, it becomes your content. I can remember seeing content in a mirrored form on YouTube but it was allowed because it was changed.

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artists: ...d. opinion pirates - Piraterij? Gaat het hier nog wel om piraterij en niet om de bescherming

van copyright? Wat is copyright?http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/defend_our_freedom_to_share_or_why_sopa_is_a_bad_idea.html (Ik denk dat je de talk verkeerd begrepen hebt. Anti-piracy IS de bescherming van copyright. De talk gaat over dat ze het kopiëren zelf tegen willen gaan in plaats van het schenden van copyright.)

14. What does piracy cost?a. opinion John Doe

The number of times someone copies your content without your permission times the price of that content per unit. How hard can this be?

b. opinion media companies: a lot, as music hardly sells nowadaysc. opinion artists: we do suffer losses due to not being able to sell our music, but as piracy is

the cost of getting introduced by lots of people, we book more gigs and sell more merchandise than ever before. our label misses income for not selling music, we make profit for performing live and selling shirts.

d. opinion pirates: There is no evidence that any media company has a lost money due to the fact people copy their work. In fact, I believe that if people are free to download and consume new material for free, they might like it enough they’ll buy it while they would’ve never heard of it if it wasn’t for the download! This downloading is a form of quality control and makes us what to buy what will not disappoint us, so in fact builds your brand for free!

15. Who is the victim of “piracy”?a. opinion john: what? i cant use wikipedia anymore in a few months?

If the Internet would suffer as a result of a law because a relatively small group of people commit piracy, I guess everyone is.

b. opinion media companies: the artists/our customers, of course!c. opinion artists: Most of us are okay with downloading our material! We might miss out on

royalties but it helps marketing our band, spreads the music and made us able to reach a public greater than any publisher ever could.

d. opinion pirates: The victim of piracy. That’s a good one. I think the victim of piracy is the guy that pays extra taxes on removable (carryable media) because he might be making illegal copies of it, and than still gets sued for what he already has paid for! The victim of piracy is a business model that unable to sustain itself because it is built on the perception that we want to consume media. That businessmodel has to fail.

16. Who can be held liable for piracy? What are/should be the penalties?a. opinion John Doe

I heard that downloading was legal, but uploading not. So I guess the people who make the content available are the guilty ones, but I am not sure about the people who subconsciously upload information as a result of a certain setting in a download program. I guess they are guilty as well? Should in this case everybody be trained with these programs or should the developers of these programs set this uploading options to ‘off’ by default? Are these program developers the guilty ones, together with the people who upload this stuff?

b. opinion media companies: the artists/our customers, of course!c. opinion artists:

- record labels for spiraling prices up because of losses. the fans are the victim here- the users who download and enjoy our music, and deliberately decide not to pay for it

d. opinion pirates Einde Eindigen met Hoe nu verder? (law/openness, etc) (misschien een vraag naar Pim ook?)Opdrachten/todo - vul de discussiepunten en standpunten/meningen van de 4 partijen aan- lees dingen door, kijk even waar je dingen kunt aanvullen en gooi bovenin het document je wilde ideeen neer.- everyone, READ UP. Je moet niet voor het blok gezet worden. Make sure you know the ins and outs van copyright laws en welke standpunten mensen hebben. Veel info op in evoint2012 group en twitterfeed.

Copyright, Piracy, The Evolution Of Internet

The law will be eventually be able to keep up with the changing methods of copying..a. opinion John Doe

At the moment, laws are really falling behind so in the near future, this keeping up is completely impossible. Maybe, when the development of technology gets on to some sort of plateau of complexity, laws would eventually have time to catch up with it. There are so many possibilities of copying stuff so it is difficult to really make a lineair boundary between non-copying and copying. For example, is copying a page with a copying machine a violation of copyright when writing the same page as a hand-written note is not? Therefore, does writing these hand-written notes on a copied paper make the paper lose it’s copyright, because it is changed by a third party?

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates

1. New question: Everyone should be punished for piracy or violation of copyright and depending on the gravity of the offence, a sum of money should be paid.

a. opinion John DoeYou have to be reasonable; punishing everyone for a violation of copyright is like punishing every drunk person on the street on a Friday night; it’s undoable. Only the worst should be punished.

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates

2. New question: we have entered a new and digital era. More alternatives to current media should be developedlijkt alleen sterk op de businessmodel discussie. interessant is wel om na tedenken of huidige dingen verbeterd moeten worden icm de wetvoering (ergo: ALLES een keer op spotify gooien ipv het wiel opnieuw uitvinden)

a. opinion john doeb. opinion mediac. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates:

3. To what extent is it good that organisations like BREIN operate?wat betekent BREIN nou voor de media en artists? hoe hindert het piraterij en john doe? wat betekent hun huidige strategie (censuur) voor de toekomst van het internet?

a. opinion john doeb. opinion mediac. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates:

4. Anti-piracy organisation do what we are funding them fora. opinion john doe

We pay tax, we don’t know how much it’s really helping. Pirate Bay is not really doing something wrong; they’re about spreading torrent files, but not the files itself. Like transportation of illegal fireworks.

QUESTIONS NOT ON THE SHEETS / OLD QUESTIONS

1. What is your opinion on copyright and piracy?a. opinion John Doe:

- “I want to do what I want to do. There are so many people downloading. - I didn’t know about the specifics of this bill and don’t understand how this will change anything? I don’t download copyrighted material.”- I think that the corporations make enough money to withstand copyright and piracy. It won’t get them bankrupt.“ It is astonishing what is happening. The internet is the most free "press" we have....it must not be squashed in any way. The corporations that are for this...we need to watch them and let everyone know what they are up to...stealing our freedom to make more profits” - Lilly Summer, Facebook.“ SOPA and PIPA won't stop the freedom of speech on the internet, it's like an hydra... you can cut one head but 2 more shall rise. “ -Vince Boyzo, FaceBook.“ I have not completely read the bills but my general feeling is I DO NOT trust the federal government and in general most of the legislation that is meant to correct something usually makes it worse. So my gut reaction is to leave it alone and leave the issue to current patent and copyright law. How is internet piracy any different than other IP piracy. Why do we need any more laws than we already have? “ Lynda J. Roth, Facebook

b. opinion media companiesWhat companies are publicly supporting SOPA/PROTECT-IP?What companies are publicly opposing SOPA/PROTECT-IP?“Paul Vixie: SOPA/PIPA Would Be Good For My Business, But I'm Still Against It” - Paul Vixie (is an American Internet pioneer, the author of several RFCs and well-known Unix software author)On November 15, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Zynga, eBay, Mozilla, Yahoo, AOL, and LinkedIn wrote a letter to key members of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, saying SOPA poses "a serious risk to our industry's continued track record of innovation and job creation, as well as to our nation's cybersecurity. (source)Michael O'Leary, who oversees policy and external affairs for the Motion Picture Association of America, the trade group for the top film studios, will tell lawmakers that "fundamentally" the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) is about saving jobs. (source)

c. opinion artistsWhat is actually on the bill → The Library of Congress - Bill Text“I have heard from the critics and I take seriously their concerns regarding proposed legislation to address the problem of online piracy. It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products. We need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products. "The problem of online piracy is too big to ignore. American intellectual property industries provide 19 million high-paying jobs and account for more than 60% of U.S. exports. The theft of America's intellectual property costs the U.S. economy more than $100 billion annually and results in the loss of thousands of American jobs. Congress cannot stand by and do nothing while American innovators and job creators are under attack.” - Lamar Smith, author of the bill. (source)

Copyright, Piracy, The Evolution Of Internet

a. The above is moot as we’ve decided not to let the government take part of the discussionopinion artists:25% of the well-known artists have less income than before, while the other 75% have more. there’s a couple of explainations for that:- pirates download music from popular artists because it’s shared better. they can save money in order to buy less popular music- people can discover music for free- there is a rise in income for concerts -> more interest, probably thanks to communities like pandora and last.fm.source (see references also) http://torrentfreak.com/why-most-artists-profit-from-piracy/also a valid point: people who “pirate” your work would’ve probably not even have spent money on your work anyway.

b. opinion piratesThe Pirate Bay: “SOPA houdt ons niet tegen” (source)

Anonymous Lists Their Demands (source) - We believe a healthy society doesn’t allow its artists, musicians and other creators to starve. The copyright industry has been justly criticized for abusing the political process in a desperate attempt to maintain its role as a cultural gatekeeper, a business model made obsolete by a digital age of free copies. But the RIAA, MPAA & IFPI deserve our opprobrium for making enormous profits while often leaving the very artists it claims to represent *poorer* than they would be as independents. While the public may have greater access to the few artists deemed sufficiently marketable to gain mass media promotion, fewer and fewer of us are making art and music in our own lives.Russia's Internet Pirates Against SOPA (source) - “If these bills are adopted, U.S. judges would get the legal right to block the Russian social network Vkontakte as internet pirate, as well as Twitter and Facebook,” Pirate Party member Sergei Kolennik, 26,told Ria Novosti newswire in Moscow on Wednesday.A dozen party members attempted to stage a rally near the U.S. embassy in Moscow but were prevented by police. Two were arrested. Ria Novosti got a picture of this one guy, a lone wolf in the ex-pat Russian pirates fight against SOPA. The activists managed to pass a petition to U.S. Ambassador Michael McFaul through the embassy’s post office.“We ask you not to remain indifferent but to convey to the U.S. public and government how important it is for the democratic future of Russia to save the freedom of internet,”

3. Is copying two dvd’s for a neighbour and receiving a small payment for the favor a violation of copyright? Is it also piracy? Why?

a. opinion John DoeThis one is easy! Because you don’t give money to the rightful creators of the media there should be some case of violation of copyright. Whether or not you recieve money for it is irrelevant.

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artists

well, you know, dvd’s cost money. but profit should be ours. hey, maybe we should ask pirates to donate their profits to us so they can be our agents ;-)

a. opinion pirates2. What’s the best way to protect against online Piracy?

a. opinion John DoeI would prevent stuff sensitive to piracy from coming online. When I am forced to do this, I don’t have a choice and have to accept the risk of piracy. I could minimise it by applying filters on certain social networks, though. In general I just have to be careful, but piracy is everywhere I guess.

b. opinion media companies7 Ways to Prevent Piracy - Juuso, game-developer.Microsoft Product Activation TechnologySUE THE BASTARDS!

c. opinion artistsThese Two Bills Are the Best Approach - Chris Dodd, a former U.S. senator who represented Connecticut from 1981 to 2011, is the C.E.O. and chairman of the Motion Picture Association of America. (source)

A prominent Russian intellectual property lawyer Svetlana Kokina told Ria Novosti on Wednesday that even if SOPA were adopted it would not impede copyright and intellectual property infringement of U.S. companies.“It’s impossible to tackle internet piracy,” she said. “Several attempts have already been made and they failed.”(source)The above is moot as we’ve decided not to let the government take part of the discussionconnect with the fans -- if you can get them to grant you the money for a cd, they will. true fans will buy your work out of support.piracy costs a lot of money to stop and it seems better to think of alternatives instead of stopping it.

d. opinion piratesIt´s not possible if the software is online. (not sure about this one, though)List of protective technology (encrypion methods, advanced code-verification methods) Ik zoek nog een source, maar het idee van de zo gedefinieerde “pirates” is veelal dat de definitie van Piracy aangepast moet worden. Beschermen tegen andere zaken ipv het kopieeren/delen.stop the internet itself, as it’s purpose is to copy information from one computer to another

3. Integriteit creatief / intellectueel eigendom opiniona. opinion John Doe

When something belongs to me and it’s meant for me to make some money out of it, it’s logical that I am quite frustrated by it when it is copied without my permission. If this loss of money is not taken into account, wouldn’t it be a form of a compliment if someone would be using your content? I would be maybe even a bit flattered! Still the potential loss of money bothers me.

b. opinion media companies“Lesson 1: Obscurity is a far greater threat to authors and creative artists than piracy. Lesson 2: Piracy is progressive taxation. Lesson 3: Customers want to do the right thing, if they can. Lesson 4: Shoplifting is a bigger threat than piracy. “ - Tim O’Reilly, the founder and CEO of O'Reilly Media, Inc., thought by many to be the best computer book publisher in the world. (source)

c. opinion artists[lastig, moet ik op terugkomen]

d. opinion pirates

Copyright, Piracy, The Evolution Of Internet

SOPA helps protect “a business model made obsolete by a digital age of free copies. “ The copyright industry do not try to change their business model to fit today's possibilities of digital distribution. But instead try to sue / block the people that do.

1. What do you think should be protected? -> Erg moeilijk in een goede discussie.a. opinion John Doe

The content you create yourself and the content of others that you ‘borrow’. You cannot spread/copy/share this content without the permission of the owners. But on the other hand, when you alter this content, it becomes your content. I can remember seeing content in a mirrored form on YouTube but it was allowed because it was changed.

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artists: ...d. opinion pirates - Piraterij? Gaat het hier nog wel om piraterij en niet om de bescherming

van copyright? Wat is copyright?http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/defend_our_freedom_to_share_or_why_sopa_is_a_bad_idea.html (Ik denk dat je de talk verkeerd begrepen hebt. Anti-piracy IS de bescherming van copyright. De talk gaat over dat ze het kopiëren zelf tegen willen gaan in plaats van het schenden van copyright.)

2. What does piracy cost?a. opinion John Doe

The number of times someone copies your content without your permission times the price of that content per unit. How hard can this be?

b. opinion media companies: a lot, as music hardly sells nowadaysc. opinion artists: we do suffer losses due to not being able to sell our music, but as piracy is

the cost of getting introduced by lots of people, we book more gigs and sell more merchandise than ever before. our label misses income for not selling music, we make profit for performing live and selling shirts.

d. opinion pirates: There is no evidence that any media company has a lost money due to the fact people copy their work. In fact, I believe that if people are free to download and consume new material for free, they might like it enough they’ll buy it while they would’ve never heard of it if it wasn’t for the download! This downloading is a form of quality control and makes us what to buy what will not disappoint us, so in fact builds your brand for free!

3. Who is the victim of “piracy”?a. opinion john: what? i cant use wikipedia anymore in a few months?

If the Internet would suffer as a result of a law because a relatively small group of people commit piracy, I guess everyone is.

b. opinion media companies: the artists/our customers, of course!c. opinion artists: Most of us are okay with downloading our material! We might miss out on

royalties but it helps marketing our band, spreads the music and made us able to reach a public greater than any publisher ever could.

d. opinion pirates: The victim of piracy. That’s a good one. I think the victim of piracy is the guy that pays extra taxes on removable (carryable media) because he might be making illegal copies of it, and than still gets sued for what he already has paid for! The victim of piracy is a business model that unable to sustain

itself because it is built on the perception that we want to consume media. That businessmodel has to fail.a.

1. Who can be held liable for piracy? What are/should be the penalties?a. opinion John Doe

I heard that downloading was legal, but uploading not. So I guess the people who make the content available are the guilty ones, but I am not sure about the people who subconsciously upload information as a result of a certain setting in a download program. I guess they are guilty as well? Should in this case everybody be trained with these programs or should the developers of these programs set this uploading options to ‘off’ by default? Are these program developers the guilty ones, together with the people who upload this stuff?

b. opinion media companies: the artists/our customers, of course!c. opinion artists:

- record labels for spiraling prices up because of losses. the fans are the victim here- the users who download and enjoy our music, and deliberately decide not to pay for it

d. opinion piratese. f.

8. A violation of copyright is “piracy”.a. opinion John Doe

Copyright is like you buy a product, but instead of using it just for yourself, you copy it. This way, the product originally intend for one person gets to more than one person, violating copyright. But piracy is from my point of view deviated from the classical pirates such as in the movie Pirates of the Caribbean. These pirates steal stuff and keep it for themselves; there is no mean of copying treasures. Piracy is by this definition stealing content and making profit out of it, but it is not copying. A violation of copyright is it as well, because when you steal something, it leaves the rightful owner and get ito the hands of an unrightful owner. So in short, the answer is ‘yes’, because stealing results in a loss of the rightful owner (who paid for it)

b. opinion media companiesc. opinion artistsd. opinion pirates

9. You can live without violating copyright.a. opinion John Doe

Well, life is bound to be a bit more expensive if you would pay for absolutely everything, but I guess it wouldn’t be impossible. This only if presumed I would use as much content as I would now. I reality, I guess that I would use ess media that is copyrighted, because it costs money. Would’ve been a bit of a sucky life, since I’m a big fan of stuff like films and music, which I all download illegally.

b. opinion media companiesj.

11. A violation of copyright is “piracy”.g. opinion John Doe

Copyright is like you buy a product, but instead of using it just for yourself, you copy it. This way, the product originally intend for one person gets to more than one person, violating copyright. But piracy is from my point of view deviated from the classical pirates such as in the movie Pirates of the Caribbean. These pirates steal stuff and keep it for themselves; there is no mean of copying treasures. Piracy is by this definition stealing content and making profit out of it, but it is not copying. A violation of copyright is it as well, because when you steal something, it leaves the rightful owner and get ito the hands of an unrightful owner. So in short, the answer is ‘yes’, because stealing results in a loss of the rightful owner (who paid for it)

h. opinion media companiesi. opinion artistsj. opinion pirates

12. You can live without violating copyright.g. opinion John Doe

Well, life is bound to be a bit more expensive if you would pay for absolutely everything, but I guess it wouldn’t be impossible. This only if presumed I would use as much content as I would now. I reality, I guess that I would use ess media that is copyrighted, because it costs money. Would’ve been a bit of a sucky life, since I’m a big fan of stuff like films and music, which I all download illegally.

h. opinion media companiesm.

2. A violation of copyright is “piracy”.m. opinion John Doe

Copyright is like you buy a product, but instead of using it just for yourself, you copy it. This way, the product originally intend for one person gets to more than one person, violating copyright. But piracy is from my point of view deviated from the classical pirates such as in the movie Pirates of the Caribbean. These pirates steal stuff and keep it for themselves; there is no mean of copying treasures. Piracy is by this definition stealing content and making profit out of it, but it is not copying. A violation of copyright is it as well, because when you steal something, it leaves the rightful owner and get ito the hands of an unrightful owner. So in short, the answer is ‘yes’, because stealing results in a loss of the rightful owner (who paid for it)

n. opinion media companieso. opinion artistsp. opinion pirates

3. You can live without violating copyright.m. opinion John Doe

Well, life is bound to be a bit more expensive if you would pay for absolutely everything, but I guess it wouldn’t be impossible. This only if presumed I would use as much content as I would now. I reality, I guess that I would use ess media that is copyrighted, because it costs money. Would’ve been a bit of a sucky life, since I’m a big fan of stuff like films and music, which I all download illegally.

n. opinion media companies

What is about to happen

What we're going to do:1. Points on copyright2. Four factions opinions

explained3. 5 Minutes discussion

per point4. Ping! Next!5. Statistics on Facebook

Group (evoint 2012)

What is about to happen

What you're going to do:● Join the first open discussion on copyright @ UvT● Hold up your card of choice - agree or disagree● Defend yourself

● No wrong answers, so no holding back● Win a book, so no holding back

IntroductionEtienne BertouBachelor of IT -> Master CISLecturer Marketing Strategy & Concept Development at Zuyd University.Entrepreneur & Digital Ninja.

APirateI represent those who download, re-mix, share and distribute.

Introduction

Vincent LichtenbergBachelor of ITMasters degree HAITASMLEntrepreneur

Rock star!I represent those who create content

Introduction

Thomas van Vessem Bachelor of ICT/Multimedia,Master HAIT Tabletennis, YouTube, Facebook

John DoeRepresents those who occasionally visit Wikipedia, mainly for school/work-purposes. "Knows a guy" that can download DVD's from the Internet for him. Is one out of many, with average knowledge about the Internet.

IntroductionMichael Verheijden

Bachelor of ITMasters degree HAITParadigit RetailWebdesign

Media ConglomerateI represent corporations like Sony Corporation of America (SCA), Sony's principal U.S. businesses include:Sony Electronics Inc., Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc. (one of the largest film & television companies in the world), Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., Sony Music Entertainment Inc.(one of the largest recorded music companies in the world). Sony employs 180,500 people worldwide

1. Copying a book and lending it to a neighbour is a violation of copyright.

A2. Everyone should be punished for violating copyright / piracy.

3. The evolution of the internet has fundamentally changed copyright.

4. Making everything you created available for download on the internet is a good thing.

5. You can live without violating copyright during this evolution of the internet.

6. Anti-piracy organizations do what we are funding them for.

Closure

Animo check - anyone hungry for more?

7. Companies can adapt their business models to new technologic usage.

8. The law will eventually be able to keep up with the evolving methods of copying.