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Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg School of Medicine

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Page 1: Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg

Preparing for Pre-Med Study

How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track

Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD CandidateDirector, Office of DiversityFeinberg School of Medicine

Page 2: Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg

The journey into medicine

• Becoming more flexible

• Encouraging of diversity in a broad sense

• Has numbers that determine consideration, but not necessarily admission

• Requires persistence, dedication, and support

• Should flow from a “how” framework rather than an “if” framework for advising

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Premed Preparation

GPAScience GPA

MCAT score Medical exposure Leadership

Interpersonal skills

Research experience

Community service & evidence of altruism

Civic and campus engagement

Letters of recommendation

Professionalism Writing skills Academic skills (study skills, learning tools)

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How it is advertised

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What it really can look like

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College choice

• If a student is headed toward professional school, how does that affect their initial undergraduate college choice?

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Choosing the right college

• Size

• Selectivity

• Public/private

• Research intensive

• Size of surrounding community

• Enrichment opportunities

• Curriculum

• Campus community/support

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A note about community college

• Medical schools have different approaches to applicants who have attended CC

• If a CC is the best option for a student, it’s okay, BUT

• Ensure the student has a transfer plan and time line

• Ensure the student takes some prereqs at a four-year school

• Understand that earning a BS degree is less likely if a student attends a CC

Page 9: Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg

Premed advisers

• Do NOT choose a school based on the premed advising ‘record’ of success

• Many advisers act more like gatekeepers than facilitators

• Advising varies from a full time dedicated adviser with a program budget to a professor assigned to keep track of students however they see fit (sound familiar?)

• Students can get access to ALL information advisers have through the AAMC

Page 10: Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg

Premed advisers

• Caution your student that they have to take charge of their preparation and may not have a solid advisor upon which to rely. Seek alternatives.

• Some advisers are discouraging and negative – if a student encounters a supremely unhelpful adviser, they should walk away from the adviser, not medicine!

Page 11: Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg

Premed requirements

• Subject to change, but haven’t in the last 100 years

• 1 year of biology

• 1 year of general chemistry w/ labs

• 1 year of organic chemistry w/ labs

• 1 year of physics w/ labs

• Usually calculus is a prereq for physics

• Can include: statistics, biochemistry, diversity courses, medical terminology, etc – vary slightly by school

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Science Courses

• No science courses above beginner/introductory level freshman year. (maybe none at all)

• Regardless of how prepared the student is

• Take the most difficult science courses latter half of sophomore year and beyond.

• Protect the GPA

• Given the dilemma, a “W” is always better than a D or an F.

Page 13: Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg

GPA basics

• The GPA will not get them in, but it will keep them out

• Make sure students understand rules about withdrawing/dropping classes

• Teach them how to calibrate and predict performance

• Think about classes over 4 years including summers

• No more than two science or math at a time, especially in the first two years

Page 14: Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg

GPA rules

• Every class they have ever taken for college credit is calculated into the GPA for applicants to medical school

– Includes concurrent enrollment

– Includes any repeated courses (grades are averaged in, not replaced)

– Includes coursework at colleges where no degree was earned

Page 15: Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg

Science courses

• Utilize the summer to ease the load of simultaneous difficult classes (even at universities closer to home)

• Understand that counting toward premed and counting toward degree don’t necessarily have to overlap

• Understand that most schools’ premed “tracks” are ANTIQUATED and far from ideal for any student, let alone a first gen, low income, or minority student

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Why wait for science classes?

• They have two years of gen eds anyway

• They will want the content fresh for MCAT, PCAT, etc. Taking classes too early potentially means less effective learning/performance.

• They need letters from professors in science areas, therefore they want to perform well in those classes and have professors remember them and endorse them.

Page 17: Preparing for Pre-Med Study How Counselors Can Help Students Start and Stay on Track Sunny Gibson, MSW, PhD Candidate Director, Office of Diversity Feinberg

Why wait for science classes?

• Students who underperform in science classes in the first two years of college change their career aspirations more often and more drastically.

• The pace of science courses in college is intense, therefore they need to be well established as a student before they take science courses

– Academic calibration and self knowledge

– Resource savvy (supermall example)

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Questions about premed coursework – what counts?

• What about AP credits?

• What about community college courses?

• What about online courses?

• What about concurrent enrollment courses?

• Are they flexible? What can be substituted?

• Are there other requirements besides the general science ones?

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Activities

• Begin pursuits with passion

• Students should choose a major they LOVE, doesn’t have to be science!

• Select extra-curriculars based on interest, not medical school relevance

• Think about having a ‘hook’ in the application that will help them stand out

• Seek personal growth and community impact. Get outside comfort zone.

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Get involved, find community

• Students who are engaged on campus have higher graduation rates than those who are not.

• Follow a plan to ease into activities:

– Freshman year: attend, decide what to join

– Sophomore year: join, participate in leadership, demonstrate commitment

– Junior year: seek leadership positions, innovate

– Senior year: be in charge, give back, leave a legacy (leave things better than before)

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Get involved….but

• Caution them against over commitment at the expense of grades.

• They often see their actions are collective, but the graduate school applications are always individual.

• They need to learn to balance, so they don’t burn out.

• If they feel overwhelmed, they should stop and ask for help.

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Resources for you

• https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/

• https://www.aamc.org/students/aspiring/

• Medical School Admission Requirements publication or online subscription

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Cautions/Notes

• Off shore MD programs (non-LCME accredited schools)

• International medical schools (non-US, non-LCME)

• Doctor of Osteopathy (DO) Schools

• Proprietary advising services & consultants

• MCAT changes in 2015

• Pre-Health DREAMers. DACA eligible students can apply…

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Please contact me!

• Sunny Gibson ([email protected])