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Page 1: Preparing for Egg Donation & Surrogacy · Surrogacy, IVF and Egg Donation are emotionally and financially stressful. ... Mexico, Czech Republic, Kenya Philippines Managed (no legal

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Preparing for Egg Donation & Surrogacy

Olivia Santa

Growing Families

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Overview

• Donor availability

• Surrogate availability

• NZ or OS surrogacy?

• Differences By Country

• Budgetting & ways to control costs

• Tips on Choosing Providers

• Medical & psychological preparation

• Ethical considerations

• Embryo creation & shipping

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Key Fact

Surrogacy, IVF and Egg Donation are emotionally and financially stressful

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Egg Donor Options – New Zealand

friend or family member

Self-recruited/ Known

community forums

(requires signif legwork)

OS Donor Providers

not allowed

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Egg Donor Options - Overseas

Many OS clinics maintain ‘pre-

screened’ donor databases

friend or family member

Surrogacy Agencies

Self-recruited/ Known IVF Clinic

(more limited choices)

Wide range

Donor Agencies

Some have donor

databases

(If want specific characteristics or

‘fly-in donor )Travel to OS clinic

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Surrogacy Availability

USA, Canada,

Ukraine, Greece,

Colombia Georgia,

Russia

New Zealand

Self-managed Managed (legal framework)

Cyprus, Mexico,

Czech Republic,

Kenya Philippines

Managed (no legal framework)

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DO I ENGAGE AT HOME OR OVERSEAS?

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NEW ZEALAND

• Altruistic

• Far longer process to find surrogate and achieve approval

• Need to welcome surrogate and her family into yours

• Significant time commitment in getting to know and supporting surrogate

• long-term relationship

• needs patience & resilience

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Look Seriously at Australia if….

• You can wait a few years to have a first/subsequent child

and /or

• You have someone who has offered to carry

• You have patience

• You are prepared to use donor eggs if you are >35 years• You are prepared to put significant time into the process (get to know surrogate,

counselling, cook meals, attend appointments, child care)

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Look Seriously at International if….

• You are an older IP (>40 years)

• You would prefer to have a child within 12-18 months

• You don’t have time/interest to invest into relationship building

• You want a tightly screened surrogate

• You want to maximise success rates

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Differences By CountryCountry Eligibility On Birth Cert Binding

contractGuarantee Programs?

Surrogate match time

New Zealand All Both IPs x x 12 mths +

US All Both IPs Ö 1 4 – 6 mths

Canada All Both IPs Ö x 12 mths +

Greece Hetero couple, single women

Both IPs Ö x 1 mth

Ukraine Hetero married Both IPs Ö Ö 1 - 2 mths

Georgia Hetero couple Both IPs Ö Ö 1 - 2 mths

Cyprus All Male IP x Ö 1 mth

Colombia Gay single/ couple Male IP Ö Ö 6 mths

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35 years experience

Strict surrogate screening

IVF clinic success rates are audited www.sart.orgUsually need to engage with a• Surrogacy agency• IVF clinic• Lawyer (for you and surrogate)

Open to allChild receives US passportQuick exit time post birth

USA

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CANADA

CONsHuge influx last 4 years from foreignersA dire shortage of medically & psychologically suitable donors & surrogatesLong wait times to matchhigh surrogate drop-out/ poor success rates

PROsAltruistic modelGood IVF clinicsWelcoming legal frameworkGood surrogate support

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• Egg donors must be anonymous

• Hugely Increased demand

• Number of providers quadrupled

• Specific medical indication letter

• Good screening & medical care

• Prices rising significantly

UKRAINE

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ProsEgg donors must be knownGood IVF success ratesStable protective lawsGood surrogate availabilityLow costsGuarantee programs

GEORGIA

Cons• Open only to heterosexual

couples• Shipped embryos need

significant paperwork• Six week exit time post birth

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PROs• Gay friendly• Guarantee program is standard• English spoken well everywhere• Full insurance included for surrogate

and child• 15 years IVF experience w

surrogacy• Gender selection available

CYPRUS

CONs• IVF clinics are in Turkish Republic of

Northern Cyprus, • A defacto state recognised only by

Turkey• No surrogacy laws• Surrogates are not from Cyprus

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PROs• Altruistic surrogacy laws• Gay friendly• Guarantee program is standard• Full insurance included for

surrogate and child

• Colombian passport granted

COLOMBIA

CONs• New

• No NZ births to date• No feedback from completed

parents• Egg Donors anonymous• Surrogate is on birth certificate (can

be removed later)• Only one known surrogacy provider

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BUDGETING & COST CONTAINMENT

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$24,500 $30,000 $22,000$11,000 $15,000 $11,000

$48,740$16,000

$16,000$20,000 $12,500 $11,500

$13,000

$2,600 $9,500$12,000

$2,600 $4,100

$46,750

$30,000$19,000

$18,000

$9,600

$9,500$9,300

$20,000 $8,300$1,650

$4,000

$4,000

$4,000

$350

$2,000

$6,000

$6,500

$6,500

$5,500$5,500

$4,700

$20,000

$7,000

$3,000

$13,000

$8,000

$11,000

$17,000$8,600

$5,300

$0

$20,000

$40,000

$60,000

$80,000

$100,000

$120,000

$140,000

$160,000

$180,000

$200,000

USA NorthernCyprus

Colombia Canada Ukraine Georgia

Min

imum

spen

d

Country

Egg Donor costs

Surrogate & newborninsurance

Hospital & post-birthcosts

Screening/Counselling

Surro expenses

Surrogate compensation

Legal costs

IVF costs

Surrogacy Agency

Egg Donor Surrogacy Costs (AU)

These are estimated costs. As the variation bars show, these costs can be significantly higher. Costs can be lower when you have embryos already

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Cost Considerations

Compare to others• Obtain quotes from different providers

Payment stages• What % up-front?• Are payments milestone-based?• What milestones are used?

• Surrogate match• First embryo transfer• Confirmed pregnancy• Week 12• Week 24• Birth

Your funds• If you are not happy with service, what

refunds are available?

• Who holds your funds?• Agency or third-party escrow account

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CHOOSING A PROVIDER

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Key Tips

• Compare costs with other providers in that country

• How transparent are they about their partners and fees

• Talk to parents who have completed with that provider

• Beware providers who want you to transfer two embryos at a time

• Beware paying significant amounts before being matched with a surrogate

• If in a non-English country, do they provide translators and translated medical reports?

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Choosing Overseas ProvidersSurrogates

Ensure you can meet your surrogate upfront

Understand

• how your provider conducts screening and what % are approved

• how often you can have surrogate contact

• what your surrogate will be paid and when

Service Provision

• What rights do you have if you or your surrogate are unhappy with service provision?

• what support is provided after the birth?

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Medical, Logistical & Psychological Prep

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How Can we Prepare?

GAY Singles/Couples

• Review Egg donor options

HETERO Couples

• Consider fertility counselling to deal with grief/loss issues

• If have embryos• Understand IVF clinic release

process• Obtain embryology reports

• Consider friend/family member as egg donor or surrogate

• Get semen analysis done

• Save money

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Ethical Considerations

Donors

• Understand the differences between known, identity-release and anonymous donors

Children

• Talk about your attitudes to medical disability & termination

• Be prepared for age-appropriate disclosure to your child about how they were created

Surrogates

• Insist on surrogate details (age, number of children, where she comes from, where she will live)

• Understand your surrogate’s motivations

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Embryo Creation & Shipping

• Embryos can be shipped offshore if • you have made embryos but cant locate NZ surrogate• You want to make embryos with local egg donor but not sure if you

will locate NZ surrogate

• Aim to ship at least 3 Day 5 blastocysts

• Need to engage reputable Cryoshipper

• Shipping costs vary AU$3300 - $3900• May be less if shared shipment

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Customised Support

Help you decide on a country/ provider

More hand-holding/concierge style service

Reliable, proven providers to meet your budget

Wide range of options

One hour or complete journey support

Email [email protected] or visit www.growingfamilies.org/customised-support/