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PRACTICAL TALENT IDENTIFICATION Rowing Ireland PROVINCIAL CLUB COACHES PETER SHAKESPEAR Director of TID and Development Rowing Canada Aviron

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Page 1: PRACTICAL TALENT IDENTIFICATION - Rowing Ireland · practical talent identification rowing ireland provincial club coaches peter shakespear director of tid and development rowing

PRACTICAL TALENT IDENTIFICATION

Rowing Ireland

PROVINCIAL CLUB COACHES

PETER SHAKESPEAR

Director of TID and Development

Rowing Canada Aviron

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THREE KEY AREAS

I. THE POSSIBILITIES PROVIDED BY TID

I. PROCESS OF TESTING

I. IMPLEMENTATION

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THREE KEY AREAS

I. PROCESS OF TESTING

I. IMPLEMENTATION

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100m world record

TIME NAME YEAR

9.95 Jim Hines 1968

9.93 Calvin Smith 1983

9.92 Carl Lewis 1988

9.90 Leroy Burrell 1991

9.86 Carl Lewis 1991

9.85 Leroy Burrell 1994

9.84 Donovan Bailey 1996

9.79 Maurice Greene 1999

9.77 Asafa Powell 2005

9.74 Asafa Powell 2007

9.72 Usain Bolt 2008

9.69 Usain Bolt 2008

9.58 Usain Bolt 2009

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100m world record

TIME NAME YEAR HEIGHT

9.95 Jim Hines 1968 184

9.93 Calvin Smith 1983 186

9.92 Carl Lewis 1988 191

9.90 Leroy Burrell 1991 185

9.86 Carl Lewis 1991 191

9.85 Leroy Burrell 1994 185

9.84 Donovan Bailey 1996 183

9.79 Maurice Greene 1999 175

9.77 Asafa Powell 2005 190

9.74 Asafa Powell 2007 190

9.72 Usain Bolt 2008 196

9.69 Usain Bolt 2008 196

9.58 Usain Bolt 2009 196

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WHAT IS POSSIBLE -GB OLYMPIC ROWING 2012

• GB - 4 gold medals – WORLD # 1

• OVER 25% of GB 2012 Olympic rowing team from TID non rowing sources.

Aim 10%

• 5 of the 10 rowers who won gold medals were from TID sources

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ALEX GREGORY

Olympic champion after 11 years of rowing

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Anna Watkins

Olympic Champion after 9 years of rowing

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Helen Glover and Heather Stanning

Olympic Champions after 5 and 6 years of rowing

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THREE KEY AREAS

I. THE POSSIBILITIES PROVIDED BY TID

I. IMPLEMENTATION

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RESEARCH FOR TESTING METHODS

• Identify extremely important criteria for World Champion performance

• Some criteria can be easily developed -TRAIN

• Some criteria difficult to develop - TEST

• Find laboratory tests and field tests

• Test and Compare elite level

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PROFILE TEST BATTERY

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Field tests to provide objective informationon untrained potential

• Strength tests

• Endurance tests

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SOURCE OF TALENTED ATHLETES

• WITHIN SPORT

• SCHOOLS

• UNIVERSITIES

• TALENT TRANSFER (other sports/activities)

• Correct Strategy for approaching athletes is critical

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HOW TO IMPLEMENT SIMPLY

• TEST 10 tallest girls and 10 tallest boys in 10 schools close to rowing club (16-17 years )

• Test battery: anthro, strength and endurance –validate tests with best of national team

• “professional” ID and communication process for long term PR

• Planned introduction & development structure

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OPEN MENLIGHTWEIGHT MEN

(18 YEAR OLD)OPEN WOMEN

LIGHTWEIGHT

WOMEN (18 YEAR

OLD)

review minimum

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upper selection

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review minimum

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upper selection

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review minimum

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review minimum

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standard

HEIGHT 186 193 175 180 175 183 163 170

ARMSPAN 186 193 175 180 175 183 163 170

ENDURANCE 85 90 85 90 70 80 70 80

LEG PRESS

(3)600 780 580 750 400 525 390 50

BENCH PRESS

(3)300 390 280 350 150 205 140 190

ARM PULL (3) 400 480 380 450 200 290 190 280

Sum of Leg

Press(3) and

Arm Pull(3)

1000 1260 960 1200 600 815 580 780

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ANTHROPOMETRIC STRENGTH - DYNO MACHINE

ENDURANCE

ARM LEG

BIKE

Weight (kg) Height (cm)Armspan

(cm)

Leg press

(nm)

Arm press

(nm)

Arm pull

(nm)LP+AP (nm)

Arm/Leg

(rpm)

>193.0 >193.0 >800 >400 >500 >1300 >90

186 - 192.9 186 - 192.9 700-799.9 300-399.9 450-499.9 1150-1300 85-89

86.50 196.5 198.2 909 409 612 1521 93

89.20 191.0 198.0 918 383 605 1523 92

86.20 195.5 200.0 812 341 497 1309 92

88.00 194.0 204.0 801 486 486 1287 91

79.50 190.0 193.5 855 377 533 1388 90

101.30 192.5 199.0 822 473 549 1371 90

84.30 191.0 198.0 821 354 502 1323 89

78.70 177.5 185.5 633 302 433 1066 89

68.00 188.0 189.0 721 268 326 1047 88

93.00 186.5 191.5 964 428 561 1525 88

83.30 195.5 202.5 915 490 578 1493 88

87.50 193.0 201.0 833 445 589 1422 88

80.00 195.5 197.0 690 323 355 1045 88

82.30 187.5 189.0 606 320 390 996 88

80.00 195.5 197.0 690 323 355 1045 88

79.28 190.5 193.5 695 365 410 1105 87

95.9 196.0 197.0 875 460 591 1466 87

88.00 195.0 195.0 889 466 562 1451 87

80.90 189.0 196.0 769 332 474 1243 87

82.70 187.0 201.0 696 361 573 1269 87

104.00 185.0 188.0 697 430 420 1117 87

104.00 185.0 188.0 697 430 420 1117 87

84.00 187.0 197.5 671 313 424 1095 86

81.50 190.0 196.0 831 492 585 1416 86

84.00 187.0 197.5 671 313 424 1095 86

75.90 188.5 189.0 756 333 387 1143 86

84.00 193.5 201.0 697 281 367 1064 86

118.70 188.0 187.0 888 440 552 1440 86

79.00 183.5 188.0 644 327 451 1095 86

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THREE KEY AREAS

I. THE POSSIBILITIES PROVIDED BY TID

I. PROCESS OF TESTING

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OBLIGATIONS

• Ensure club can provide a suitable environment (coaches, support and small boat equipment)

• Provide an enthusiastic coach

• Have a planned induction procedure

• Have a planned development procedure (different from traditional approach)

• Keep athletes clear of club politics

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TIME FRAMES

• 10,000 hours to peak performance – average

• Accelerate training based on athlete interest

• Start with 12- 15 hours per week

• Individual variation is huge

• Ensure staged, controlled development

• Encourage “failure – then overcome” mentality

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EXPECTATIONS

• NEW Athletes have no support system

• NEW ATHLETES are perfect –no faults

• Errorless learning (extensive feedback)

• Exceed traditional expectations

• Develop FERRARI MENTALITY

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Role of TID in the National sport organization

Club sport

CLUB SPORT

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PROBLEMS

• Junior performance = coach enthusiasm

• TRADITIONAL approaches inefficient

• Change causes problems

• Development pathway - labour intensive

• Administration - supportive

• Non-believers - negative/jealous?

• Good athletes - very achievement oriented

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TESTING PSYCHOLOGICAL and TACTICAL FACTORS

• Essential for all sports but at different levels of importance

• Training methods create psychological development

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2 BASIC PRINCIPLES OF TID to World Champion

• IDENTIFICATION – essential and must be very high quality. A critical 5% of Journey

• DEVELOPMENT - At 95% the major part of the journey. Must follow guidelines that are different from most traditional pathways. Includes physical, mental, technical, social etc.

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ROLE OF TALENT AND TRAINING

• “TRAINING WILL BEAT TALENT UNTIL TALENT TRAINS”

• TID will never replace the role of clubs in providing the bulk of the top competitors

• TID can provide 10% of the very best athletes

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Stages of TID and Development

TID = building solid foundations 5%

Development= building on foundations 95%

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SUMMARY

• IDENTIFICATION OF TALENT IS SIMPLE

• STRONG GUIDELINES REQUIRED

• EVERY CLUB CAN BENEFIT BY SMART –TRACKING TALENT

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DEVELOPMENT

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DEVELOPMENT

• Involves physical, mental, tactical, technical, social and educational improvement

• TID athletes have no faults (and no good habits either) – consequently rapid, quality learning is possible

• Goal is later high quality performance – not early mediocre performance

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TID DEVELOPMENT difference from normal development. “FERRARI MENTALITY”

• TID athletes have no perceived limitations

• Talented athletes require special development

• Talented athletes require special coaching

• Talented athletes require special expectations

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TECHNICAL /SKILL DEVELOPMENT

• “Technique limited training” to maximiserapid but accurate technical development

• Intense coaching (1:1 ideal)

• Continuous feedback

• Coach demands change from every feedback (improvement mentality)

• Eliminate technical limit on later performance

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SKILL DEVELOPMENT - theory

• “Deliberate Practice” from K Anders Ericsson

• Errorless learning

• Challenge concept of “natural talent”!

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1:10,000 and 10,000 hours theories

• World Champion potential is rare

• Quality of selection and development is critical

• Volume of quality training is essential

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PSYCHOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT

• There is no perfect test, but can be trained

• Create a very friendly but competitive training environment

• Praise the effort not the talent – Carol Dweck

• Set goals high to experience failure then set strategy to fight and overcome the failure

• Create ownership of performance

• Create obsessive trainers

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QUALITY CONTROL AND MOTIVATION - MONTHLY CAMPS

• Create competitive environment

• Continuous improvement

• Regular goal setting

• Introduce crew boats

• Create basis for motivation = achievement

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WHY TALENT IDENTIFICATION AND DEVELOPMENT ?

• Funding is linked to Olympic Gold Medal performance

• Performances are always improving each Olympiad

• Plan for future performance: TID can identify and nurture talent for the future

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