pdk presentation to chamblee on faa airspace

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Things to ConsiderThings to Consider

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Please do not shoot the messengers!Please do not shoot the messengers! Tonights briefing.Tonights briefing.


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Please do not shoot the messengers!Please do not shoot the messengers!

Plan of attack for tonights briefing.Plan of attack for tonights briefing.

Technical advisors.Technical advisors.
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Please do not shoot the messengers!Please do not shoot the messengers! Plan of attack for tonights briefing.Plan of attack for tonights briefing.


One side of the story.One side of the story.
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Please do not shoot the messengers!Please do not shoot the messengers!

Plan of attack for tonights briefing.Plan of attack for tonights briefing.


One side of the story.One side of the story.Do not have to do anything rightDo not have to do anything right

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Please do not shoot the messengers!Please do not shoot the messengers! Plan of attack for tonights briefing.Plan of attack for tonights briefing.


One side of the story.One side of the story. Do not have to do anything rightDo not have to do anything right

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Submission of comments.Submission of comments.
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FAAs ATL Class B AirspaceProposal

Prepared by Mike Van Wie

For the Chamblee City CouncilFebruary 11, 2010


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What is Class B Airspace?What is Class B Airspace?

Surrounds the nation'sSurrounds the nation'sbusiest airportsbusiest airports

Surface to 10,000 feetSurface to 10,000 feetMSL; circular diameter ofMSL; circular diameter of

40 nautical miles40 nautical miles Pilots must obtain aPilots must obtain a

clearance from ATC beforeclearance from ATC beforeentering Class B airspace;entering Class B airspace;maintain radio contactmaintain radio contactwith ATCwith ATC

Aircraft must be equippedAircraft must be equippedwith an altitude-encodingwith an altitude-encodingtranspondertransponder


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ComparisonComparisonChange This To This


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Important DifferencesImportant Differences

ExistingExisting 12 mile line12 mile line

Altitude directly aboveAltitude directly above

PDK 8,000 ftPDK 8,000 ft

Altitude immediatelyAltitude immediatelysouth of PDK6,000 ftsouth of PDK6,000 ft

Altitude immediatelyAltitude immediately

north of PDK8,000 ftnorth of PDK8,000 ft

ProposedProposed 15 mile line15 mile line

Altitude directly aboveAltitude directly above

PDK 5,000 ftPDK 5,000 ft

Altitude immediatelyAltitude immediatelysouth of PDK5,000 ftsouth of PDK5,000 ft

Altitude immediatelyAltitude immediately

north of PDK7,000 ftnorth of PDK7,000 ft

Bottom Line Reduces the airspaceavailable to all aircraft in and out of

PDK


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East OperationDecember 11, 2009

0600 - 1200


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West OperationDecember 9,

2009 0600 - 1200


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If these proposed changes are toIf these proposed changes are toaccommodate the addition of the 5accommodate the addition of the 5ththrunway at ATL Airport,runway at ATL Airport, why are suchwhy are such

significant changes being made tosignificant changes being made to

the northern airspace?the northern airspace?


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West Operation

December 9, 2009

0600 - 1200


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East Operation

December 11, 2009

0600 - 1200


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What does this mean?What does this mean?

Previously unpopulated airspace above PDK nowPreviously unpopulated airspace above PDK nowpopulatedpopulated

Visual Flight Rules aircraftVisual Flight Rules aircraft

Aircraft compressed into less airspaceAircraft compressed into less airspace Same number of aircraft operating in less airspaceSame number of aircraft operating in less airspace

Instrument Flight Rules aircraftInstrument Flight Rules aircraft On the ground delays for departing Instrument Flight RulesOn the ground delays for departing Instrument Flight Rules

aircraftaircraft

More time at lower initial altitude for departing flights equalsMore time at lower initial altitude for departing flights equalsmore noisemore noise

Earlier descent of inbound aircraft equals more noiseEarlier descent of inbound aircraft equals more noise

All factors mean more fuel consumption more emissionsAll factors mean more fuel consumption more emissions


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Environmental ProcessEnvironmental Process

The FAA intends to categorically excludeThe FAA intends to categorically exclude(CATEX) the proposal from a thorough(CATEX) the proposal from a thoroughenvironmental reviewenvironmental review FAA reasoningFAA reasoning

FAA is only changing the airspace to capture aircraft that areFAA is only changing the airspace to capture aircraft that arealready thereairspace doesnt make noise, only airplanes doalready thereairspace doesnt make noise, only airplanes do

Airspace changes at 3,000 ft AGL and above are typicallyAirspace changes at 3,000 ft AGL and above are typicallyCATEXCATEX

This reasoning ignores the environmentalThis reasoning ignores the environmentalconsequences, both noise and increasedconsequences, both noise and increasedemissions, at satellite airports like PDK.emissions, at satellite airports like PDK.


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???Questions??????Questions???

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Class B Airspace on home pageClass B Airspace on home page

Where/How to submit commentsWhere/How to submit commentsTalking points (AAB draft resolution)Talking points (AAB draft resolution)

GBAA article were not the only onesGBAA article were not the only ones

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