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The Brondesbury Group
Communicating with Investors
A Presentation for PAICR
Dr. Ed Weinstein President, The Brondesbury Group
21 February 2012
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Topics for Today
n Where do investors go to find trusted information? n Which experts do you believe?
n Role of social media and search strategies n Trusted websites and media
n Communicating with investors: the challenge n Literacy, numeracy and decision-making
n Understanding of investment-related matters n The gap between understanding and action
n How you can communicate better with investors
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Where do investors go to find trusted information?
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Research material courtesy of the Investor Education Fund
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Trusted Sources – Typical Quotes
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“I find the world of finance overwhelming. I don’t have a lot of passion or interest in it, but I know it is a necessary thing. If I want to invest my money I basically rely on my advisor who I have been dealing with a long time. I trust her. I sit down with her, she explains everything to me. I trust her and her advice.” (Retail Investor
Focus Groups, Investor Advisory Panel, OSC, March 2011) “I rely on family and friends. That’s where I go. I never even thought of going to the net because it’s too complicated. I would think anything financial would be too complicated. I need to talk to someone” (Focus Group 35+, Preparing for Retirement Group, Investor Education Fund, Sept 2010)
I Did a lot of internet searching. I find sometimes its easier to gather information this way prior to going to bank and other institutions. (Online Focus Group Age 20 – 34, Investor Education Fund, July 2010.) Online… (Also) by going to discussion forums, message boards, chat rooms, learning from others' experiences, and reading about what other people had done, the specifics/details why. (Online Focus Group Age 20 – 34, Investor Education Fund, July 2010.) I do it almost 100% online. I just don't trust people in banks and places like that, telling me what is best for me. They don't know me or my situation so I stick with what I research on. Then I bring it to whoever I need to and see if they have any better ideas. (Online Focus Group Age 20 – 34, Investor Education Fund, July 2010.)
Over 35 Under 35
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Older (~35+)
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35-49 is a Transition Group
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Under 35 is Radically Different
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Difference Shows When Joined
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Active Use of Social Media (20-34)
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40
50
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Twitter YouTube Facebook
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66
83
Use of Social Media (QIV'09)
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Use of Facebook Functions
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8
12
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16
20
24
43
47
49
59
72
87
0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
Interact w/ corp brand pages
Commun. w/brands via discuss gps
Enter contests
View ads that interest me
Search for content
Watch videos posted in groups
Join groups
Try applications
Watch Videos posted by friends
Commun. w/friends via discuss gps
Share information with friends
Connect with friends
C-4. Use of Facebook Functions (Active Users)
% Active Users
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What type of websites appeal?
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• Wikipedia • Google • Yahoo • globeinvestor • Bloomberg • BNN • www.gc.ca
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… And for the Older Folks
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44
41
36
36
24
21
20
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10
6
0 10 20 30 40 50 60
Globe & Mail
CBC TV
CTV
National Post
Canadian Business
Macleans
CBC Radio / Radio Canada
BNN
Toronto Star
Bloomberg
680 News (CFTR)
% Using Media Sites
C-6. Top Media Sites
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Simplified Conclusions n Under-35’s are skeptics. They are more peer-oriented seeking out
the views of like-minded people both online and off. They trust the motives of peers over advisors. They compare a wider range of sources and infer ‘the truth’ by finding the common ground. They don’t stop until they find the common ground. Not finding common ground can delay a decision
n Over-35 trust experts. They talk to advisors and read articles by experts in newspapers, magazines and books. Even though everyone we interviewed uses the internet, it is not a primary vehicle for information-seeking. Once they find “an answer” they can live with, they generally stop looking for information.
n What does this mean for your communications?
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Communicating with Investors: The Challenge
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Source: OSC, “Cost and Performance Disclosure, 2010. Unless otherwise stated.
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As Investors See It
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“It seems to be too overwhelming. Too many companies and too much information to be able to make a good decision and because my time is very limited, I have not yet had enough time to dedicate to getting this done” (Online Focus Group Age 20 – 34, Investor Education Fund, July 2010.) “It is an education decision and you try to research whatever you are looking for and then the timeframe comes to an end, you have to make a decision and then you base your decision on what you have read so far. (Focus Group Age 35+, Retired Group, Investor Education Fund, Sept 2010)
“So you’re looking at one (account reporting statement) and well what does this mean? What does that mean? It would be really nice if you looked at the same thing and it would be in the same column so you could compare apples to apples.” (Focus Groups, Account Reporting Practices, Ontario Securities Commission, Sept 2011) “I should have a level of savvy. I have my MBA. I have taken financial courses. It just doesn’t turn my crank. I just shut down when I get into it.” (Focus Group 35+, Preparing for Retirement Group, Investor Education Fund, Sept 2010) “We learned that it is harder than I thought to make a decision on which company to go with when starting an RESP. We still have not decided because we have not figured out (not enough time yet) to decide which company is best.” (Online Focus Group Age 20 – 34, Investor Education Fund, July 2010.)
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risk reward asset mix
goals
Is that really safe?
suitability product
That means no new car.
Can we trust him?
We could lose money
How much will that cost?
Sounds complicated.
Jack made money with him
Should we pay down debt?
What are they thinking?
Will Tom keep his job?
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What People Can Learn [Brondesbury Pyramid]
Literacy Level 5 4 3 2 1
% Population*
16% (4/5)
34%
31%
20%
Learn How to Make the Best Decisions
Decisions & Implications
Integrated Learning
Follow steps for Safe Decisions
Simple Facts -- Avoid Pitfalls
* Source: Adult Literacy and Life Skills, 2005..
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What Does This Mean to You
1. Half of the population can’t do trade-offs like risk versus return!
2. At lower literacy levels (1-2), language should be geared to Grade 6 reading level – Above Grade 8
3. Assume 15-30 seconds to grab attention and then a 2-3 minute attention span. n If you are good, you get more. n If it isn’t up front and obvious, it isn’t there
4. Numeracy is a barrier – Numbers scare people 5. Eschew obfuscation!
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Application Lags Knowledge
n When asked how well they understood the principle of “risk-return”, some 4 out of 6 of investors said they understood it well or very well. When given an example that required the application of the principle (without it being named), 1 out of 6 successfully applied it.
n 9 out of 10 know that the longer you borrow money, the more it costs in terms of the interest you pay. When given an example that applied that principle to mortgage amortization, only 55% got the question right.
n Research suggests behaviour lags application and knowledge.
n “If everyone was rational, we wouldn’t have marketing departments.”
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Do Investors Understand Common Terms?
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74
73
66
41
38
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0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80
Rate of return
Term deposit/GIC interest
Principle of risk-retrun
Benchmark comp funds
S&P/TSX Composite index
Management expense ratio
No terms understood well
% Top Box
Exhibit 2.1a Understanding of Common Terms - Overall
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Understanding Cost Terminology
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69.4
66.9
58.8
56.2
44.1
40.7
34.7
27.1
22.5
15.1
0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80
Buy/sell commission
Account admin fees
Money Management fees
Low interest cash balance
Interest paid on margin account
Deferred sales commission
Trailer fees
Wrap fees
Reciprocity fees
No Terms Understood
% Top Box
Exhibit 3.1a Understanding of Common Terms - Overall
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Judging Fund Performance
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49
47
43
37
2
5
28
27
20
20
0
5
0 10 20 30 40 50 60
Similar funds
GIC interest
Stock market performance
Expectations
Other
None of these
% Respondents
Exhibit 2.2a Judging Fund Performance
Use
Most Important
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Information Guiding Buying
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83
78
76
71
69
50
42
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0 20 40 60 80 100
Gains/losses past 5 years
Perf met yr expectations
Gains/losses past year
Cost of buying/selling
No. times lost money
Management Expense Ratio (MER)
Standardized cost-return index
None important
% Top Box
2.5 Information Guiding Fund Purchases
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Fund Reporting Preferences
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35
20
42
3
20
26
41
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0.0 5.0 10.0 15.0 20.0 25.0 30.0 35.0 40.0 45.0
VALUE
Dollars useful
Percentages useful
Both useful
Neither useful
COMPARISONS
GIC returns useful
Benchmarks useful
Both useful
Neither useful
4.1 Fund Performance Report Preferences
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How Can You Communicate Better with Retail Investors
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What Investors Say
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Make information simple, basic. And if you want to know more you can. I like to see it in a visual way, something engaging. Start by a simple plan – and if people want to know more they can. (Set to Retire Participant, Focus Group, Investor Education Fund, Sept 2010)
You have to hook people in first. Otherwise this info is pointless if you don’t hook them in. (Set to Retire Participant, Focus Group, Investor Education Fund, Sept 2010) I like the idea of a link that you could get more information about something. That would certainly be helpful. (Focus Groups, Account Reporting Practices, OSC, Sept 2011) In terms of performance if you’re looking at it for making a decision as to whether you should continue to invest in, make a purchase or whatever, there’s so many different ways of looking at it. There are so many different philosophies it’s hard to have something that’s standardized that would give you an idea. (Focus Groups, Account Reporting, OSC, Sept 2011)
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A Real Conversation
n Q: When you looked at the mutual fund prospectus, was there anything you wanted to know that you couldn’t find?
n A: Yes, I wanted to know how much I would get.
n Q: Did you see anything labeled “Rate of Return” or “Return on Investment”?
n A: Yes, but I didn’t know what that was.
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Plain Language
n Avoid complicated words and sentences. n Keep language at Grade 6-8 level
n Active voice
n Simple declarative sentences
n If you use jargon, explain it so your kid can understand it
n Repeat main message 2-3 ways in different spots
n Test your communications with real investors n Do they get the main messages?
n What makes them nervous or uncomfortable?
n What else do they want to know?
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Organize for Understanding
n Multiple methods: Visual - Text – Number n Dollars over percentages, e.g., “If you had $10,000 at the
start of the year, we delivered $453 on your investment. n Then show the same thing in graphic form
n State your main message. Make it stand out. n Multiple channels: Web & Print + Others
n Gear media to demographic profile of investors
n Consistent messaging with repetition (3x) n Never assume people can infer your meaning… Spell
it out for them
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Assume they don’t want to read it
n Main message at a glance – Obvious even to those who don’t read the material
n Get attention up-front with key message in a highlighted format. Save the ‘legalese’ and institutional stuff for the back.
n Break information into 2-3 minute bundles with “hooks” to the next parcel
n If online, find a way to make content interactive. n Return Calculator. Enter an amount of money and a date. We’ll
tell you how much… n Take our risk profile quiz and we will recommend other funds
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