open space - kanban method and scrum · 2015-10-05 · microsoft word - open space - kanban method...

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Kanban Method & Scrum Yi XU proposed this topic in the Open Space.



Yi intended to facilitate the discussion, by asking the participants to summarize their OPINIONs regarding Kanban Method and Scrum.



The participants’ opinions: • Can use at the same time and supple each other • Both are Agile • Different, Scrum more known, Kanban less • Scrum can get some ideas from Kanban, e.g. WIP, CT • According to context • Kanban is task-‐based, Scrum is change-‐oriented • Kanban is only used when there is already process, not used to create a new

product. Predefined. • Kanban is not efficient in task management, but in blocking issues. • Kanban is process improvement, can fit for any processes, besides Agile. • Scrum is more transparent. • In Kanban, bottleneck needs to be solved to make progress. • Kanban doesn’t require commitment in specific time period. • Kanban is more Lean-‐Agile • Kanban (board) is a tool. Scrum is a way of team working. • Kanban (board) can not show the history data.



Yi then facilitates the audiences to re-‐think their logic behind their opinions, are those judgments logical, and be clear what are they actually talking about, e.g. Kanban board or Kanban method, e.g. Scrum framework or Scrum implementations. By listing those parameters or attributes of Kanban Method and Scrum, to see what’s exactly the differences between those two methods. Then use those listed differentiators to judge those opinions, and improve together, adding / updating the differentiators and correct the opinions. E.g. why “Kanban can not show history data”? 1. People were actually talking about Kanban board, and behind the judgment

is people believe Scrum can show history data. 2. The reasons they claimed is the physical board can only show the current

data, rather than the previous ones. 3. People argue that using an e-‐tool can support the history data feature. 4. So it comes to “when” you need history data? “where” to have history data,

has it to be with the current data? “who” needs history data? “why” needs history data?

5. Is it a difference between Kanban Method and Scrum?



As the session was going to close, Yi shared his opinion regarding Kanban Method and Scrum as the audiences’ interests. • Applying Facts – Interpretation – Judgment – Action, while debating or

arguing around different opinions, to make the conversation helpful, you need to go back to the facts of our opinions, and verify if they’re valid

• Kanban Board is different from Kanban Method, while in Chinese, people all call them “Kan Ban” (Pinyin), the confusion caused some meaningless discussions. Most teams were actually using just the Kanban Board and thought they’re using Kanban (Method), while a Scrum team could also use the Board (which they would call Task Board or Sprint Board, etc.). Using Kanban Board doesn’t mean or distinguish Kanban Method from Scrum.

We haven’t form a WeChat group, but you can join the WeChat group for all participants as below; since the QR code will expire, you can add my WeChat account and let me add you in; plus, you can WeChat me if you want to discuss Kanban Method & Scrum with me, or just want to connect, welcome!

open space - kanban method and scrum · 2015-10-05 · microsoft word - open space - kanban method...

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