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Mother’s Perspective By Ronny and JoJo

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A student presentation based on ethics for a TOK lesson. Note that this is nor an assessed presentation but rather, just a class task.

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Mother’s Perspective

By Ronny and JoJo

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Background Information★Nadya Denise Suleman, previously known as

Natalie Doud, is an American woman who gave birth to octuplets on January 26, 2009.

★She is a single mother, unemployed and on public assistance programs. She had already six older children in home before she gave birth to 8 more via IVF with the participation of a male friend who provided donor sperm.

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Knowledge issues

• The mother’s thoughts might be emotionally colored as she wants to have a big family and feel more loved but is this ethically correct? For a woman that’s barely able to support herself to raise up another 8 children?

• Are we being judgmental because she is a single mother? Would we perceive this differently if the mother was married?

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More…

• Why should Suleman have 8 babies when some other mothers are still waiting for 1?

• Is she mentally ill? Should she have gone through a psychological examination in the beginning?

• Is she have babies for selfish reasons? She had the choice of “selective abortion” but she chose to ignore it.

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Theories

• Ethical Egoism applied on Suleman “If it’s good for me, it’s good”

• It was all about her want, her desires for a large loving family. She had no concerns about anything else

• She was informed of the risks but went along with the decision although the doctors DO have the ultimate decision she plays a major role in it.

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More.. • Self-pleading? False dilemma? She was told by

the doctors that the chances of all 6 embryos taking effect would be very low, so she went along with it. Is she making exceptions for herself by having this IVF even though she already has 6 children?

• Utilitarianism.• Was it wrong for she simply wanted to seek the

“greatest happiness of the greatest number?”

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Hobbes social contract theory✔✖

• There is a social contract• A set of society expectations, a

code of moral behavior• Unwritten but we understand

what is acceptable and what not.

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Moral relativism

• Out of 100 doctors, out of 100 people, they would all have different answers to the question “Was 6 children not enough ?” This is relativity, what may be right for you may not be the same right for another.

• Those 6 children were cared for, so it shows that she can handle a lot of children. Why are people objecting her to have more children…She has the capability…..(Not really but.)

• She wanted it…So should she have gotten it?

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Duty ethics

• Ethics is fundamentally fulfilling your obligations which is your duties. However doesn’t this contradict with human rights?

• People would rather talk about rights than duties?

• So in this case, Suleman has a duty not to burden taxpayers with her selfish desires for 14 children albeit it is her right to raise a big family.

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Motives

• Moral value of an action is determined by the motive. Consequences should be considered.

• Did Suleman ever intend to cause such controversy ? Her publicists quitting could reveal that her motives such as trying to milk money out of this issue, are immoral.

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Asking ourselves

Are we being biased? Is it fair that she is put under the spotlight merely because she had 8

babies after already having 6 children? Is it our business? Are we binded by conforming to

social beliefs that we don’t allow personal exceptions?

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• PEOPLE SEE ETHICAL AND MORAL ISSUES/PROBLEMS

DIFFERENTLY THUS WE HAVE

CONFLICT!