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OBADIAHOBADIAH

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VISION AGAINST EDOMVISION AGAINST EDOM

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NOT LITERAL EDOM?NOT LITERAL EDOM?

ROME OR EUROPE?ROME OR EUROPE?

BABYLON = ROME?BABYLON = ROME?

GOG AND MAGOG = PRE-TRIB WAR?GOG AND MAGOG = PRE-TRIB WAR?

PEOPLE CONTINUE TO MAKE NATIONS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO MAKE NATIONS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE

BIBLEBIBLE SAYS THEY ARE TO FIT THEIR SAYS THEY ARE TO FIT THEIR THEORIESTHEORIES

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WHO WAS EDOM?WHO WAS EDOM?

GENESIS 25:29-30GENESIS 25:29-30 Now Jacob cooked a Now Jacob cooked a stew; and Esau came in from the field, stew; and Esau came in from the field, and he and he waswas weary. And Esau said to weary. And Esau said to Jacob, “Please feed me with that same Jacob, “Please feed me with that same red red stew,stew, for I for I amam weary.” Therefore weary.” Therefore his his name was called Edomname was called Edom..

GENSIS 36:1GENSIS 36:1 Now these are the Now these are the generations of generations of Esau, who is EdomEsau, who is Edom.   .  

EDOMITES ARE DESCENDENTS OF ESAUEDOMITES ARE DESCENDENTS OF ESAU

BROTHER OF JACOB (ISRAEL)BROTHER OF JACOB (ISRAEL)

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WHAT THE BIBLE SAYSWHAT THE BIBLE SAYSISAIAH 63:1ISAIAH 63:1 Who is this that comes from Who is this that comes from EdomEdom, with, with dyed dyed garments from garments from Bozrah Bozrah

EZEKIEL 25:12-14EZEKIEL 25:12-14 ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Because of what“Because of what Edom Edom did against the house of did against the house of Judah by taking vengeance, and has greatly offended Judah by taking vengeance, and has greatly offended by avenging itself on them,” therefore thus says the by avenging itself on them,” therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Lord GOD: “I will also stretch out My hand against “I will also stretch out My hand against EdomEdom, cut off man and beast from it, and make it , cut off man and beast from it, and make it desolate from desolate from Teman (ARABIA); Dedan (ARABIA)Teman (ARABIA); Dedan (ARABIA) shall fall by the sword. I will lay shall fall by the sword. I will lay

Habakkuk 3:3Habakkuk 3:3 God came from God came from Teman (ARABIA)Teman (ARABIA), the , the Holy One from Holy One from Mount Paran (MECCA/ARABIA)Mount Paran (MECCA/ARABIA). . Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and his praise Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and his praise filled the earth.filled the earth.

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OTHER NAMES FOR OTHER NAMES FOR EDOMEDOM

ESAU/MT. ESAUESAU/MT. ESAU

DAUGHTER OF EDOMDAUGHTER OF EDOM

SEIR/MT. SEIRSEIR/MT. SEIR

SOUTHERN JORDANSOUTHERN JORDAN

ARABIA/SAUDI ARABIAARABIA/SAUDI ARABIA

““THE WILDERNESS”THE WILDERNESS”

““DESSERT OF THE SEA”DESSERT OF THE SEA”

MT. PARANMT. PARAN

TEHMANTEHMAN

DEDANDEDAN

IDUMEAIDUMEA

BOZRAHBOZRAH

AMALEKAMALEK

MIDIANITES/MIDIANITES/ISHMAELITESISHMAELITES

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VISION OF OBADIAHVISION OF OBADIAH

CONCERNING EDOMCONCERNING EDOM

“ “ Arise, and let us Arise, and let us rise up againstrise up against her her (Edom)(Edom) for for battle”: battle”:

“ Behold, I will make you small among the “ Behold, I will make you small among the nations; nations;

You shall be greatly despised.You shall be greatly despised.

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PRIDE BROUGHT DOWNPRIDE BROUGHT DOWNThe The pride of your heartpride of your heart has deceived you, has deceived you, YouYou who who dwell in the clefts of the rockdwell in the clefts of the rock, Whose habitation is , Whose habitation is high; high; You You who say in your heart, ‘who say in your heart, ‘Who will bring me Who will bring me downdown to the ground?’ Though you to the ground?’ Though you ascend ascend asas high high as as the eagle, And though you set your nest among the eagle, And though you set your nest among the the starsstars, From there , From there I will bring you downI will bring you down,” says the ,” says the LORD.LORD.

ISAIAH 14:12-15ISAIAH 14:12-15 “ How you are fallen from heaven, O “ How you are fallen from heaven, O LuciferLucifer, son of the morning! , son of the morning! HowHow you are cut down to you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said have said in your heartin your heart: ‘ I will : ‘ I will ascend into heavenascend into heaven, I , I will exalt will exalt my throne above the starsmy throne above the stars of God; I will also of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ Yet the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ Yet you shall you shall be brought downbe brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit.Pit.

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ESAU DECEIVED:ESAU DECEIVED:

“ “ If thieves had come to you, If robbers by nightIf thieves had come to you, If robbers by night— Oh, how you will be cut off!— Would they not — Oh, how you will be cut off!— Would they not

have stolen till they had enough? If grape-have stolen till they had enough? If grape-gatherers had come to you, Would they not gatherers had come to you, Would they not

have left have left somesome gleanings? “ Oh, how gleanings? “ Oh, how Esau shall Esau shall be searched out!be searched out! HowHow his his hidden treasures hidden treasures shall be sought after!shall be sought after! All the men in your All the men in your

confederacy Shall force you to the border; The confederacy Shall force you to the border; The men at peace with you Shall deceive you men at peace with you Shall deceive you andand

prevail against you. prevail against you. Those who eatThose who eat your bread your bread shall lay a trap for youshall lay a trap for you. No one is aware of it. . No one is aware of it.

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MEN OF ARABIA MEN OF ARABIA DESTROYEDDESTROYED

“ “ Will I not in that dayWill I not in that day,” says the LORD, “ ,” says the LORD, “ Even Even destroy the wise destroy the wise menmen from Edom from Edom, , And understanding from the And understanding from the mountains of mountains of

EsauEsau?? Then your mighty men, O Then your mighty men, O Teman Teman (ARABIA)(ARABIA), shall be dismayed, To the end , shall be dismayed, To the end that everyone from the mountains of Esau that everyone from the mountains of Esau

May be May be cut off by slaughter.cut off by slaughter.

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WHY IS THE LORD AGAINST WHY IS THE LORD AGAINST EDOM?EDOM?

“ “ For For violence against your brother Jacobviolence against your brother Jacob, Shame shall cover , Shame shall cover you, And you shall be cut off forever. In the day that you stood you, And you shall be cut off forever. In the day that you stood on the other side— In the day that strangers carried captive his on the other side— In the day that strangers carried captive his forces, When foreigners entered his gates And cast lots for forces, When foreigners entered his gates And cast lots for Jerusalem— Even you Jerusalem— Even you werewere as one of them. as one of them.

“ “ But you should not have gazed on the day of your brother In But you should not have gazed on the day of your brother In the day of his captivity; Nor should you have rejoiced over the the day of his captivity; Nor should you have rejoiced over the children of Judah In the day of their destruction; Nor should children of Judah In the day of their destruction; Nor should you have spoken proudlyyou have spoken proudly In the day of distress In the day of distress

You should not have entered the gate of My people In the day You should not have entered the gate of My people In the day of their calamity. of their calamity. Indeed, you should not have gazed on their affliction In the day Indeed, you should not have gazed on their affliction In the day of their calamity, Nor laid of their calamity, Nor laid handshands on their substance In the day on their substance In the day of their calamity. You should not have stood at the crossroads of their calamity. You should not have stood at the crossroads To cut off those among them who escaped; Nor should you To cut off those among them who escaped; Nor should you have delivered up those among them who remained have delivered up those among them who remained In the day of distress. In the day of distress.

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DAY OF THE LORDDAY OF THE LORD

“ “ For For the day of the LORDthe day of the LORD upon upon all all the nations is near;the nations is near; As you have As you have

done, it shall be done to you; Your done, it shall be done to you; Your reprisal shall return upon your own reprisal shall return upon your own head. For as you drank on My holy head. For as you drank on My holy mountain, mountain, SoSo shall all the nations shall all the nations drink continuallydrink continually; Yes, they shall ; Yes, they shall

drink, and swallow, And they shall be drink, and swallow, And they shall be as though they had never been. as though they had never been.

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DELIVERANCE FROM DELIVERANCE FROM ZIONZION

“ “ But on Mount But on Mount Zion there shall be Zion there shall be deliverancedeliverance, ,

And there shall be holiness; The house And there shall be holiness; The house of Jacob shall possess their possessions. of Jacob shall possess their possessions. The house of Jacob shall be a fire, And The house of Jacob shall be a fire, And the house of Joseph a flame; But the house of Joseph a flame; But the the house of Esau house of Esau shall beshall be stubble stubble; They ; They

shall kindle them and devour them, And shall kindle them and devour them, And no survivor shall no survivor shall remainremain of the house of of the house of

EsauEsau,” For the LORD has spoken.,” For the LORD has spoken.

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ISRAEL TAKES ISRAEL TAKES POSSESSIONPOSSESSION

The South shall possess the The South shall possess the mountains of Esaumountains of Esau, , And the Lowland shall possess And the Lowland shall possess PhilistiaPhilistia. They . They shall possess the shall possess the fields of Ephraimfields of Ephraim And the And the fields of Samariafields of Samaria. Benjamin . Benjamin shall possessshall possess

GileadGilead. And the captives of this host of the . And the captives of this host of the children of Israel children of Israel Shall possess the Shall possess the landland of the of the Canaanites As far as ZarephathCanaanites As far as Zarephath. The captives of . The captives of

Jerusalem who are in Sepharad Shall possess Jerusalem who are in Sepharad Shall possess the cities of the Souththe cities of the South. .

Then saviors shall come to Mount Zion Then saviors shall come to Mount Zion To judge the mountains of Esau, And the To judge the mountains of Esau, And the

kingdom shall be the LORD’s.kingdom shall be the LORD’s.

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OTHER SCRIPTURE AGAINST OTHER SCRIPTURE AGAINST EDOMEDOM

PSALM 108:10-13PSALM 108:10-13 Who will bring me into the strong city? who Who will bring me into the strong city? who will lead me into will lead me into EdomEdom? Will not you, O God, who hast cast us off? ? Will not you, O God, who hast cast us off? and wilt not thou, O God, go forth with our hosts? Give us help and wilt not thou, O God, go forth with our hosts? Give us help from trouble: for vain is the help of man. Through God we shall from trouble: for vain is the help of man. Through God we shall do valiantly: for he it is that do valiantly: for he it is that shall tread down our enemies.shall tread down our enemies.

LAMENTATIONS 4:21-22LAMENTATIONS 4:21-22 Rejoice and be glad, O Rejoice and be glad, O daughter of daughter of EdomEdom, that dwell in the land of Uz; the cup also shall pass , that dwell in the land of Uz; the cup also shall pass through unto you: you shall be drunken (Babylon the Harlot—through unto you: you shall be drunken (Babylon the Harlot—Revelation & Isaiah), and Revelation & Isaiah), and shall make yourself nakedshall make yourself naked (Isaiah 47:1). (Isaiah 47:1). The punishment of your iniquity is accomplished, O daughter of The punishment of your iniquity is accomplished, O daughter of Zion; he will no more carry you away into captivity: he will visit Zion; he will no more carry you away into captivity: he will visit your iniquity, O daughter of Edom; he will discover your sins.your iniquity, O daughter of Edom; he will discover your sins.

ZECHARIAH 2:7-8ZECHARIAH 2:7-8 “Come, Zion! Escape, you who live in “Come, Zion! Escape, you who live in Daughter Daughter BabylonBabylon!”!” For this is what the LORD Almighty says: For this is what the LORD Almighty says: “After the “After the Glorious One has sent me against the nations that have Glorious One has sent me against the nations that have plundered youplundered you —for whoever touches you touches the apple of his —for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye— I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves eye— I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them. Then you will know that the LORD Almighty will plunder them. Then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me. has sent me.

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LORD AGAINST EDOMLORD AGAINST EDOM

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EDOM’S DESTRUCTION:EDOM’S DESTRUCTION:EZEKIEL 25:12-14EZEKIEL 25:12-14 Thus says the Lord GOD; Because that Thus says the Lord GOD; Because that Edom has dealt against the Edom has dealt against the house of Judah by taking vengeancehouse of Judah by taking vengeance, and has greatly offended, and revenged himself , and has greatly offended, and revenged himself upon them; Therefore thus says the Lord GOD; upon them; Therefore thus says the Lord GOD; I will also stretch out mine hand upon I will also stretch out mine hand upon EdomEdom, and will cut off man and beast from it; and , and will cut off man and beast from it; and I will make it desolate from Teman I will make it desolate from Teman (Arabia); and they of Dedan (Arabia) shall fall by the sword. And I will lay my (Arabia); and they of Dedan (Arabia) shall fall by the sword. And I will lay my vengeance upon Edomvengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people Israel: and they shall do in Edom by the hand of my people Israel: and they shall do in Edom according to mine anger and according to my fury; and they shall know my vengeance, according to mine anger and according to my fury; and they shall know my vengeance, says the Lord GOD. says the Lord GOD.

JOEL 3:19JOEL 3:19 Egypt shall be a desolation, and Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wildernessEdom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the , for the violence against the children of Judahviolence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their , because they have shed innocent blood in their land. But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation land. But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation (Forever).(Forever).

JEREMIAH 49:7-19JEREMIAH 49:7-19 Concerning Edom, thus says the LORD of hosts; Is wisdom no more Concerning Edom, thus says the LORD of hosts; Is wisdom no more in Teman? is counsel perished from the prudent? is their wisdom vanished? Flee ye, in Teman? is counsel perished from the prudent? is their wisdom vanished? Flee ye, turn back, dwell deep, O inhabitants of turn back, dwell deep, O inhabitants of Dedan (Arabia);Dedan (Arabia); for for I will bring theI will bring the calamity of calamity of EsauEsau upon him, the time that I will visit him. If grape gatherers come to you, would upon him, the time that I will visit him. If grape gatherers come to you, would they not leave some gleaning grapes? if thieves by night, they will destroy till they have they not leave some gleaning grapes? if thieves by night, they will destroy till they have enough. But enough. But I have made Esau bareI have made Esau bare, I have uncovered his secret places, and he shall , I have uncovered his secret places, and he shall not be able to hide himself: his seed is spoiled, and his brethren, and his neighbors, not be able to hide himself: his seed is spoiled, and his brethren, and his neighbors, and he is not. Leave thy fatherless children, I will preserve them alive; and let thy and he is not. Leave thy fatherless children, I will preserve them alive; and let thy widows trust in me. For thus says the LORD; Behold, they whose judgment was not to widows trust in me. For thus says the LORD; Behold, they whose judgment was not to drink of the cup have assuredly drunken; and are you he that shall altogether go drink of the cup have assuredly drunken; and are you he that shall altogether go unpunished? you shall not go unpunished, but thou shall surely drink of it. For I have unpunished? you shall not go unpunished, but thou shall surely drink of it. For I have sworn by myself, says the LORD, that sworn by myself, says the LORD, that Bozrah shall become a desolationBozrah shall become a desolation (Isaiah 63:1), a (Isaiah 63:1), a reproach, a waste, and a curse; and all the cities thereof shall be perpetual wastes. reproach, a waste, and a curse; and all the cities thereof shall be perpetual wastes.

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EDOM BROUGHT DOWNEDOM BROUGHT DOWNAMOS 1:11-15AMOS 1:11-15 11Thus says the LORD; For three transgressions 11Thus says the LORD; For three transgressions of of EdomEdom, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment , and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because he did pursue his brother with the sword, and thereof; because he did pursue his brother with the sword, and did cast off all pity, and his anger did tear perpetually, and he did cast off all pity, and his anger did tear perpetually, and he kept his wrath for ever: 12But I will send a fire upon kept his wrath for ever: 12But I will send a fire upon TemanTeman, , which shall devour the palaces of which shall devour the palaces of BozrahBozrah. 13Thus says the LORD; . 13Thus says the LORD; For three transgressions of the children of Ammon, and for four, For three transgressions of the children of Ammon, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have ripped up the women with child of Gilead, that they might ripped up the women with child of Gilead, that they might enlarge their border: But I will kindle a fire in the wall of enlarge their border: But I will kindle a fire in the wall of Rabbah, and it shall devour the palaces thereof, with shouting in Rabbah, and it shall devour the palaces thereof, with shouting in the day of battle, with a tempest in the the day of battle, with a tempest in the day of the whirlwindday of the whirlwind: And : And their king shall go into captivity, he and his princes together, their king shall go into captivity, he and his princes together, says the LORD.says the LORD.

MALACHI 3:1-14MALACHI 3:1-14 1The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel 1The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi. I have loved you, says the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein by Malachi. I have loved you, says the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein have you loved us? have you loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother?Was not Esau Jacob's brother? says the LORD: says the LORD: yet yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wildernesshis heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. Whereas . Whereas Edom says, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the Edom says, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus says the LORD of hosts, They shall build, desolate places; thus says the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but but I will throw downI will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of ; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD has wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD has indignation for ever. indignation for ever.

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MT. SEIR MADE MT. SEIR MADE DESOLATEDESOLATE

EZEKIEL 35:1-15EZEKIEL 35:1-15 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, set your face man, set your face against mount Seir (Edom),against mount Seir (Edom), and prophesy against it, And say and prophesy against it, And say unto it, Thus says the Lord GOD; Behold, O unto it, Thus says the Lord GOD; Behold, O mount Seir (Edom), I am against mount Seir (Edom), I am against theethee, and I will stretch out mine hand against you, and , and I will stretch out mine hand against you, and I will make you most I will make you most desolatedesolate. I will lay your cities waste, and you shall be desolate, and you shall . I will lay your cities waste, and you shall be desolate, and you shall know that I am the LORD. Because you have had a perpetual hatred, and hast know that I am the LORD. Because you have had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end: Therefore, as I live, says their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end: Therefore, as I live, says the Lord GOD, I will prepare you unto blood, and blood shall pursue you: sith you the Lord GOD, I will prepare you unto blood, and blood shall pursue you: sith you have not hated blood, even blood shall pursue you. Thus will have not hated blood, even blood shall pursue you. Thus will I make mount Seir I make mount Seir most desolatemost desolate, and cut off from it him that passes out and him that returns. And I , and cut off from it him that passes out and him that returns. And I will fill his mountains with his slain men: in your hills, and in your valleys, and in will fill his mountains with his slain men: in your hills, and in your valleys, and in all your rivers, shall they fall that are slain with the sword. all your rivers, shall they fall that are slain with the sword. I will make you I will make you perpetual desolations, and your cities shall not return: and ye shall know that I perpetual desolations, and your cities shall not return: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.am the LORD. Because you have said, These two nations and these two countries Because you have said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there: shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:

Therefore, as I live, says the Lord GOD, I will even do according to my anger, and Therefore, as I live, says the Lord GOD, I will even do according to my anger, and according to my envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I according to my envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when will make myself known among them, when I have judged youI have judged you. And thou shall . And thou shall know that I am the LORD, and that know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all your blasphemies which you I have heard all your blasphemies which you have spoken against the mountains of Israelhave spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they , saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume. Thus with your mouth you have boasted against me, and are given us to consume. Thus with your mouth you have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them. Thus says the Lord have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them. Thus says the Lord GOD; When the whole earth rejoice, I will make you desolate. As you did rejoice GOD; When the whole earth rejoice, I will make you desolate. As you did rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto you: you: you shall be desolate, O mount Seir (Edom),you shall be desolate, O mount Seir (Edom), and all and all Idumea (Arabia),Idumea (Arabia), even even allall of it: and they shall know that I am the LORD. of it: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

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STREAMS OF PITCHSTREAMS OF PITCH

ISAIAH 34:6-10ISAIAH 34:6-10 For the LORD has a sacrifice in For the LORD has a sacrifice in Bozrah, And a great slaughter in the land of EdomBozrah, And a great slaughter in the land of Edom. . The wild oxen shall come down with them, And the The wild oxen shall come down with them, And the

young bulls with the mighty bulls; young bulls with the mighty bulls; Their land shall be Their land shall be soaked with bloodsoaked with blood, And their dust saturated with , And their dust saturated with

fatness.”fatness.”

For For it isit is the day of the LORD’s vengeancethe day of the LORD’s vengeance, The year , The year of recompense for the cause of Zion. Its of recompense for the cause of Zion. Its streams streams shall be turned into pitch (OIL)shall be turned into pitch (OIL), And its dust into , And its dust into brimstone; brimstone; Its land shall become burning pitch Its land shall become burning pitch (OIL)(OIL). It shall not be quenched night or day; Its . It shall not be quenched night or day; Its smoke shall ascend forever. From generation to smoke shall ascend forever. From generation to generation it shall lie waste; No one shall pass generation it shall lie waste; No one shall pass

through it through it forever and everforever and ever..

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DOES EDOM FIT THE DESCRIPTION OF DOES EDOM FIT THE DESCRIPTION OF LAST DAYS BABYLON?LAST DAYS BABYLON?

GEOGRAPHICSGEOGRAPHICS

DESSERT WILDERNESSDESSERT WILDERNESS

HOME TO A FALSE RELIGIONHOME TO A FALSE RELIGION

PERSECUTES THE SAINTS OF GODPERSECUTES THE SAINTS OF GOD

AGAINST ISRAEL & JEWISH PEOPLEAGAINST ISRAEL & JEWISH PEOPLE

CONTAINS STREAMS OF PITCH (OIL)CONTAINS STREAMS OF PITCH (OIL)

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LAST DAYS BABYLON LAST DAYS BABYLON

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SAUDI ARABIASAUDI ARABIA