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Compiled by Bob Ozanne.
Update March 2019
12/10/1938 Birmingham v Leeds
19/10/1938 Birmingham v Sheffield
11/10/1938 Leeds v Newcastle
12/09/1938 Newcastle v Sheffield
10/10/1938 Newcastle v Leeds
08/09/1938 Sheffield v Newcastle
Special Thanks
To Allen Trump for acquiring pre-war programmes specially to add details to these files. Allen did this at
his own personal expense over 14 years. A fantastic contribution.
Acknowledgments
I should like to thank the following for their encouragement and
practical help with my Speedway Pre-War research.
Roger Beaman, Nigel Bird, George Carswell, Brian Collins, Keith Green, Jim Henry, Matt Jackson, Peter Jackson
Alan Jones, John Somerville and Mike Terran.
Also all the contributors to the team files section of this. website
P W D L F A Pts
Newcastle 5 5 0 0 247 167 10
Sheffield 6 3 0 3 229 263 6
Birmingham 5 2 0 3 224 189 4
Leeds 6 1 0 5 211 292 2
Key to Abbreviations
C = chain, DH = dead heat, E = engine or machine failure, EPH = pushed home,
ET = bike problems but finished, F = fell, FRM = remounted, FIL = fell when leading,
L = lapped, LD = laid bike down, N = replaced by reserve, NS = non starter, no reserve,
P = tyre problems, R = non finisher but reason not known, XS = excluded for starting offence,
XT = excluded time limit, XW = excluded, crossed white line, W = wheel problems.
Final Table
Northern Cup 1938
Wednesday 12/10/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
60 1938 BIRMINGHAM Total
24 1 Tiger Hart 2 3 2 2 9
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 Jeff Lloyd 3 3 3 2 11
1 Lloyd Hart Plant Dykes 76.2 5 1 5 1 3 Danny Lee 3 2 3 3 11
2 Lee Strecker Tuck Lovell 79.0 3 3 8 4 4 Bob Lovell 0 3 1 2 6
3 Langton Peel Bowden (Hyland F) 78.6 3 3 11 7 5 Jack Hyland F 2 2 3 7
4 Hart Tuck Harvey Stanger 79.2 4 2 15 9 6 Steve Langton 3 3 3 3 12
5 Lovell Lee Plant Dykes 81.2 5 1 20 10 7 Keith Harvey 1 0 1
6 Langton Hyland Strecker Tuck 79.0 5 1 25 11 8 Charlie Challis 1 2 3
7 Lloyd Hart Godwin Bowden 79.0 5 1 30 12 60
8 Lee Strecker Challis Godwin 79.2 4 2 34 14 LEEDS
9 Langton Hyland Plant Dykes 79.4 5 1 39 15 1 George Dykes 0 0 0 0 0
10 Lloyd Hart Strecker Tuck 79.8 5 1 44 16 2 Wilf Plant 1 1 1 1 4
11 Lee Bowden Lovell Godwin 80.2 4 2 48 18 3 Fred Strecker 2 1 2 1 6
12 Hyland Challis Stanger Dykes 81.0 5 1 53 19 4 Fred Tuck 1 2 0 0 3
13 Godwin Lovell Stanger Harvey 79.8 2 4 55 23 5 Alec Peel 2 N N N 2
14 Langton Lloyd Plant Bowden 79.6 5 1 60 24 6 Les Bowden 1 0 2 0 3
Birmingham's first home NC Fixture. 7 Lionel Stanger 0 1 1 2
Geoff Godwin led heat 11 for over 2 laps. When Danny Lee got past Godwin was "filled in" 8 Geoff Godwin 0 1 0 3 4
and the consequent bike trouble dropped him to last. He went on to win heat 13 in great 24
style. Godwin had learned to ride at Birmingham and familiarity with the track allowed him to show his ability.
BIRMINGHAM
LEEDS
Wednesday 19/10/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
61 1938 BIRMINGHAM Total
SHEFFIELD 17 1 Tiger Hart © E 3 2 2 7
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 Jeff Lloyd 3 3 3 3 12
1 Lloyd (Hart E) (Bravery F) Mills (XS or NS) 75.6 3 0 3 0 3 Danny Lee 2 2 3 3 10
2 Williams Lee Lovell (Allott F) 78.2 3 3 6 3 4 Bob Lovell 1 0 2 2 5
3 Hyland Langton Mason 3 riders only? 81.0 5 1 11 4 5 Jack Hyland 3 2 2 3 10
4 Hart Harvey Williams 3 riders only? 79.2 5 1 16 5 6 Steve Langton 2 3 3 2 10
5 Bravery Lee Mills Lovell 79.0 2 4 18 9 7 Keith Harvey 2 3 5
6 Langton Hyland (Brailsford F) (Williams F) 85.6 5 0 23 9 8 Charlie Challis 2 R 2
7 Lloyd Hart Mason Stanger 78.4 5 1 28 10 61
8 Lee Challis (Brailsfrd XU) 3 riders only? 79.4 5 0 33 10 SHEFFIELD
9 Langton Hyland Bravery Mills 80.0 5 1 38 11 1 Ted Bravery © F 3 1 2 6
10 Lloyd Hart Williams Brailsford 77.6 5 1 43 12 2 Paddy Mills ? 1 0 1 2
11 Lee Lovell Mason Stanger 81.2 5 1 48 13 3 Tommy Allott F N N N 0
12 Hyland Bravery (Challis R) 3 riders only? 80.4 3 2 51 15 4 Stan Williams 3 1 F 1 5
13 Harvey Lovell Brailsford Mason 80.4 5 1 56 16 5 Ron Mason 1 1 1 0 3
14 Lloyd Langton Mills Stanger 81.2 5 1 61 17 6 Lionel Stanger NS 0 0 0 0
Birmingham's closing fixture for 1938. 7 No rider
8 Harold Brailsford F XU 0 1 1
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Northern Cup
1938
The competition was held late in the season and unfortunately no date could be found for this fixture.
BIRMINGHAM
NEWCASTLE
BIRMINGHAM
Saturday 27/08/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
44 1938 LEEDS Total
39 1 Geoff Godwin 0
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 George Greenwood 3 3 3 3 12
1 Greenwood Langton Challis 85.0 3 3 3 3 3 Fred Strecker 3 3 1 7
2 Hyland Lovell Peel 91.3 1 5 4 8 4 Alec Peel 1 2 3 3 9
3 Tuck Harvey Bowden 85.8 4 2 8 10 5 Les Bowden 1 3 2 3 9
4 Lloyd Hyland Plant 86.0 1 5 9 15 6 Fred Tuck 3 2 5
5 Strecker Peel Challis 85.0 5 1 14 16 7 Wilf Plant 1 1 2
6 Bowden Tuck Hyland 86.2 5 1 19 17 8 Roy Barrowclough 0
7 Greenwood Lloyd Lee 84.2 3 3 22 20 44
8 Strecker Lovell Hepden 87.0 3 3 25 23 BIRMINGHAM
9 Langton Bowden Challis 86.2 2 4 27 27 1 Charlie Challis 1 1 1 3
10 Greenwood Hyland Lovell 84.8 3 3 30 30 2 Steve Langton 2 3 2 7
11 Peel Lee Strecker 86.2 4 2 34 32 3 Bob Lovell 2 2 1 5
12 Bowden Lloyd No third 86.0 3 2 37 34 4 Jack Hyland 3 2 1 2 8
13 Peel Lee Plant 86.0 4 2 41 36 5 Danny Lee 1 2 2 5
14 Greenwood Langton Harvey 84.0 3 3 44 39 6 Keith Harvey 2 N 1 3
7 Jeff Lloyd 3 2 2 7
8 Ron Hepden 1 1
39
LEEDS
BIRMINGHAM
Saturday 03/09/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
38 1938 LEEDS Total
SHEFFIELD 46 1 Wilf Plant 1 2 1 4
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 Alec Peel 3 3 2 2 10
1 Peel Gregory Plant 87.0 4 2 4 2 3 Les Bowden 2 1 2 2 7
2 Allott Bowden Godwin 86.2 3 3 7 5 4 Geoff Godwin 1 2 3
3 Tuck Bravery Blain 86.4 3 3 10 8 5 George Dykes 1 2 3 6
4 Williams Plant Gregory 86.0 2 4 12 12 6 Fred Tuck 3 2 1 6
5 Lamont Mills Bowden 85.6 1 5 13 17 7 Don Hemingway 1 1
6 Williams Tuck Dykes 84.6 3 3 16 20 8 Watson 1 1
7 Peel Bravery Plant 86.4 4 2 20 22 38
8 Allott Bowden Watson 85.6 3 3 23 25 SHEFFIELD
9 Lamont Dykes Mills 85.2 2 4 25 29 1 Paddy Mills 2 1 2 5
10 Williams Peel Allott 83.4 2 4 27 33 2 Billy Lamont 3 3 3 9
11 Bravery Bowden Blain 86.8 2 4 29 37 3 Tommy Allott 3 3 1 7
12 Dykes Mills Gregory 84.8 3 3 32 40 4 Stan Williams 3 3 3 9
13 Bravery Godwin Hemingway 85.8 3 3 35 43 5 Ted Bravery 2 2 3 3 10
14 Lamont Peel Tuck 83.8 3 3 38 46 6 Eric Blain 1 1 2
George Greenwood was not available to Leeds as he was representing England against 7 Les Gregory 2 1 1 4
The Dominions at Hackney. 8 0
46
LEEDS
Thursday 13/10/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
40 1938 LEEDS Total
44 1 Wilf Plant 0 3 2 2 7
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 George Greenwood 3 3 3 3 12
1 Greenwood Pepper Curtis Plant 78.4 3 3 3 3 3 Fred Strecker 1 0 0 3 4
2 Hay Sparks Strecker Tuck 81.8 1 5 4 8 4 Fred Tuck 0 1 0 3 4
3 Stilwell Peel Bowden Hamilton 81.2 3 3 7 11 5 Alec Peel 2 0 0 2 4
4 Plant Hay Hamilton Dykes 80.0 3 3 10 14 6 Les Bowden 1 3 2 0 6
5 Pepper Curtis Tuck Strecker 81.0 1 5 11 19 7 George Dykes 0 2 2
6 Bowden Sparks Hay Peel 83.0 3 3 14 22 8 Geoff Godwin 1 0 1
7 Greenwood Plant Stilwell Hargreaves 79.0 5 1 19 23 40
8 M Stobart Sparks Godwin Strecker 80.4 1 5 20 28 NEWCASTLE
9 Pepper Bowden Curtis Peel 80.6 2 4 22 32 1 George Pepper 2 3 3 3 11
10 Greenwood Plant Hay Sparks 79.6 5 1 27 33 2 Fred Curtis 1 2 1 1 5
11 Strecker Hargreaves M Stobart Tuck 81.0 3 3 30 36 3 Bob Sparks 2 2 2 0 6
12 Pepper Peel Hamilton Godwin 80.4 2 4 32 40 4 Reg Hay 3 2 1 1 7
13 Tuck Dykes Hargreaves M Stobart 80.6 5 1 37 41 5 Norman Hargreaves N 0 2 1 3
14 Greenwood Stilwell Curtis Bowden 80.4 3 3 40 44 6 Elwood Stilwell 3 1 N 2 6
Match held at Sheffield 7 Jock Hamilton 0 1 1 2
8 Maurice Stobart 3 1 0 4
44
LEEDS
NEWCASTLE
Monday 12/09/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
47 1938 NEWCASTLE Total Total
SHEFFIELD 34 1 George Pepper 2 2 3 2 9 9
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 Fred Curtis 3 2 1 3 9 9
1 Curtis Pepper Gregory Mills 78.0 5 1 5 1 3 Rol Stobart 3 3 2 1 9 9
2 R Stobart Allott Hay Williams 77.8 4 2 9 3 4 Reg Hay 1 0 2 3 6 6
3 Bravery Hargreaves (M Stobart E) (Brailsford E) 78.2 2 3 11 6 5 Norman Hargreaves 2 1 E 3 6 6
4 Allott Pepper Venier Blain 79.0 4 2 15 8 6 Maurice Stobart E 0 3 1 4 4
5 R Stobart Mills Gregory Hay 79.8 3 3 18 11 7 Bruce Venier 1 E 1 1
6 Allott Williams Hargreaves M Stobart 79.4 1 5 18 17 8 Elwood Stilwell 1 2 3 3
7 Pepper Curtis Brailsford Bravery 80.0 5 1 23 18 # 47
8 Williams R Stobart Stilwell Watson 80.0 3 3 26 21 SHEFFIELD
9 M Stobart Gregory (Mills E) (Hargreaves E) 84.2 3 2 29 23 1 Paddy Mills 0 2 E 1 3 3
10 Allott Pepper Curtis Williams 79.0 3 3 32 26 2 Les Gregory 1 1 2 0 4 4
11 Bravery Hay R Stobart Brailsford 80.0 3 3 35 29 3 Stan Williams 0 2 3 0 5 5
12 Hargreaves Stilwell Mills Blain 81.0 5 1 40 30 4 Tommy Allott 2 3 3 3 # 11
13 Hay Brailsford (Venier E) (Watson E) 83.2 3 2 43 32 5 Harold Brailsford E 1 0 2 3 3
14 Curtis Bravery M Stobart Gregory 80.6 4 2 47 34 6 Ted Bravery 3 0 3 2 8 8
Sheffield were without Billy Lamont injured. 7 Eric Blain 0 0 0 0
Sheffield had only one rider in 2 heats between heats 8 and 14. 8 Harry Watson 0 E 0
# 34
NEWCASTLE
Monday 26/09/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
51 1938 NEWCASTLE Total
33 1 George Pepper 3 3 3 3 12
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 Fred Curtis 1 1 1 2 5
1 Pepper Lloyd Curtis Langton 77.0 4 2 4 2 3 Rol Stobart 0 3 0 3 6
2 Hyland Harvey Hay R Stobart 83.4 1 5 5 7 4 Reg Hay 1 1 1 3 6
3 Hargreaves Lee M Stobart Lovell 78.0 4 2 9 9 5 Norman Hargreaves 3 3 1 1 8
4 Pepper Harvey Sparks Challis 78.2 4 2 13 11 6 Maurice Stobart 1 2 2 1 6
5 R Stobart Langton Hay Challis 79.2 4 2 17 13 7 Bob Sparks 1 2 3
6 Hargreaves M Stobart Hyland Harvey 78.0 5 1 22 14 8 Elwood Stilwell 3 2 5
7 Pepper Lee Curtis Lovell 79.2 4 2 26 16 51
8 Stilwell Hyland Challis R Stobart 80.2 3 3 29 19 BIRMINGHAM
9 Lloyd M Stobart Hargreaves Langton 79.0 3 3 32 22 1 Jeff Lloyd 2 N 3 3 8
10 Pepper Harvey Curtis Hyland 79.0 4 2 36 24 2 Steve Langton 0 2 0 0 2
11 R Stobart Lee Hay Lovell 80.0 4 2 40 26 3 Jack Hyland 3 1 2 0 6
12 Lloyd Stilwell Hargreaves Challis 79.4 3 3 43 29 4 Keith Harvey 2 2 0 2 6
13 Hay Sparks Lovell Challis 81.8 5 1 48 30 5 Bob Lovell 0 0 0 1 1
14 Lee Curtis M Stobart Langton 78.8 3 3 51 33 6 Danny Lee 2 2 2 3 9
Stan Lemon was programmed at number 1 for Birmingham but was not yet fit from his 7 No rider
injuries. Jeff Lloyd came in from first reserve to replace him and showed the promise 8 Charlie Challis 0 0 1 0 0 1
that developed into a top class career after the war. 33
NEWCASTLE
BIRMINGHAM
Monday 10/10/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
59 1938 NEWCASTLE Total Total
25 1 George Pepper 0 3 2 2 7 7
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 Fred Curtis 2 3 3 2 # 10
1 Greenwood Curtis Plant Pepper 77.8 2 4 2 4 3 Rol Stobart 3 2 3 3 # 11
2 R Stobart Tuck Hay Strecker 78.0 4 2 6 6 4 Reg Hay 1 0 2 3 6 6
3 Hargreaves M Stobart Bowden Peel 78.0 5 1 11 7 5 Norman Hargreaves 3 3 3 3 # 12
4 Pepper Sparks Tuck Godwin 80.4 5 1 16 8 6 Maurice Stobart 2 2 1 1 6 6
5 Greenwood R Stobart Plant Hay 76.8 2 4 18 12 7 Bob Sparks 2 2 4 4
6 Hargreaves M Stobart Strecker Tuck 78.6 5 1 23 13 8 Elwood Stilwell 1 2 3 3
7 Curtis Pepper Peel Bowden 81.4 5 1 28 14 # 59
8 R Stobart Strecker Stilwell Dykes 79.0 4 2 32 16 LEEDS
9 Hargreaves Greenwood M Stobart Plant 77.2 4 2 36 18 1 Wilf Plant 1 1 0 1 3 3
10 Curtis Pepper Tuck Strecker 79.6 5 1 41 19 2 George Greenwood 3 3 2 3 # 11
11 R Stobart Hay Bowden Peel 79.2 5 1 46 20 3 Fred Strecker 0 1 2 0 3 3
12 Hargreaves Stilwell Plant Godwin 79.8 5 1 51 21 4 Fred Tuck 2 1 0 1 4 4
13 Hay Sparks Peel Dykes 79.8 5 1 56 22 5 Alec Peel 0 1 0 1 2 2
14 Greenwood Curtis M Stobart Bowden 77.4 3 3 59 25 6 Les Bowden 1 0 1 0 2 2
By this big win Newcastle clinched the Speedway News Northern Cup 7 Geoff Godwin 0 0 0 0
8 George Dykes 0 0 0 0
# 25
NEWCASTLE
LEEDS
Thursday 01/09/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
SHEFFIELD 53 1938 SHEFFIELD Total
31 1 Harold Brailsford 1 3 1 5
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 Billy Lamont 3 3 3 3 12
1 Lamont Langton Brailsford 77.8 4 2 4 2 3 Tommy Allott 3 2 3 3 11
2 Allott Williams Lovell 78.8 5 1 9 3 4 Stan Williams 2 3 2 3 10
3 Bravery Lee Blain 80.0 4 2 13 5 5 Ted Bravery 3 3 3 3 12
4 Brailsford Lloyd Tidbury 82.2 3 3 16 8 6 Eric Blain 1 2 3
5 Williams Allott Langton 79.6 5 1 21 9 7 Paddy Mills 0
6 Bravery Blain Lovell 81.0 5 1 26 10 8 No rider
7 Lamont Lee Brailsford 79.8 4 2 30 12 53
8 Allott Lovell Mason 81.8 3 3 33 15 BIRMINGHAM
9 Bravery Langton Challis 79.8 3 3 36 18 1 Charlie Challis 1 1 2
10 Lamont Lloyd Lovell 82.8 3 3 39 21 2 Steve Langton 2 1 2 2 7
11 Allott Williams Harvey 79.8 5 1 44 22 3 Bob Lovell 1 1 2 1 5
12 Bravery Tidbury Challis 80.2 3 3 47 25 4 Jeff Lloyd 2 2 4
13 Williams Lee Mason 81.4 3 3 50 28 5 Danny Lee 2 2 2 6
14 Lamont Langton Harvey 80.6 3 3 53 31 6 Keith Harvey 1 1 2
Les Gregory was unable to ride because he had lost his complete kit. Eventually it was 7 Ken Tidbury 1 2 3
traced to the lost property office at Euston station!! Harold Brailsford stepped in. 8 Ron Mason 1 1 2
Paddy Mills was plagued by bike problems. 31
BIRMINGHAM
Thursday 08/09/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
SHEFFIELD 35 1938 SHEFFIELD Total
46 1 Les Gregory 3 1 0 0 4
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 Billy Lamont F N N N 0
RR 1 Gregory (Lamont F) (Sparks F) (Curtis FSX) 86.4 3 0 3 0 3 Tommy Allott 1 2 0 0 3
2 Williams R Stobart Allott Hay 78.0 4 2 7 2 4 Stan Williams 3 0 2 3 8
3 M Stobart Bravery Hargreaves Blain 78.2 2 4 9 6 5 Ted Bravery 2 3 3 3 11
4 Mills Hay Sparks Watson 80.6 3 3 12 9 6 Eric Blain 0 1 0 2 3
5 Curtis Allott Pepper Williams 78.0 2 4 14 13 7 Paddy Mills 3 1 0 4
6 Bravery R Stobart Blain Hay 80.0 4 2 18 15 8 Harry Watson 0 1 1 2
7 M Stobart Hargreaves Gregory 76.8 1 5 19 20 35
8 R Stobart Stilwell Watson Allott 82.2 1 5 20 25 NEWCASTLE
9 Bravery Pepper Curtis Blain 78.8 3 3 23 28 1 George Pepper XT 1 2 2 5
10 R Stobart Hay Mills Gregory 80.4 1 5 24 33 2 Fred Curtis FX 3 1 3 7
11 M Stobart Williams Hargreaves Allott 78.0 2 4 26 37 3 Rol Stobart 2 2 3 3 10
12 Bravery Pepper Watson Sparks 79.6 4 2 30 39 4 Reg Hay 0 2 0 2 4
13 Williams Hargreaves Stilwell Mills 79.0 3 3 33 42 5 Norman Hargreaves 1 2 1 2 6
14 Curtis Blain M Stobart Gregory 79.6 2 4 35 46 6 Maurice Stobart 3 3 3 1 10
Fred "Kid" Curtis was thrown when his bike turned over at the start of heat 1. George 7 Bob Sparks F 1 0 1
Pepper could not make the rerun in time and was excluded under the 2 minutes rule. He 8 Elwood Stilwell 2 1 3
was replaced by the reserve Bob Sparks. In the rerun Lamont fell and Sparks came off in 46
avoidance. Billy Lamont was out of the match.
NEWCASTLE
Thursday 22/09/1938 Northern Cup Score Chart
SHEFFIELD 44 1938 SHEFFIELD Total
40 1 N 0
Heat Results Time H A H A 2 Ted Bravery 2 3 3 2 10
1 Greenwood Bravery Plant 76.8 2 4 2 4 3 Tommy Allott 2 1 3 1 7
2 Williams Allott Tuck 81.0 5 1 7 5 4 Stan Williams 3 2 3 3 11
3 Watson Peel Bowden 74.4 3 3 10 8 5 Paddy Mills 1 1
4 Tuck Dykes Brailsford 79.4 1 5 11 13 6 Colin Watson 3 3 2 1 9
5 Greenwood Williams Allott 77.2 3 3 14 16 7 Harold Brailsford 1 1
6 Watson Tuck Strecker 80.0 3 3 17 19 8 Eric Blain 2 3 5
7 Bravery Bowden Peel 77.8 3 3 20 22 44
8 Allott Strecker Godwin 80.0 3 3 23 25 LEEDS
9 Greenwood Watson Mills 77.0 3 3 26 28 1 Wilf Plant 1 2 3
10 Bravery Blain Strecker 79.0 5 1 31 29 2 George Greenwood 3 3 3 3 12
11 Williams Bowden Allott 79.8 4 2 35 31 3 Fred Strecker 1 2 1 4
12 Blain Plant Dykes 80.0 3 3 38 34 4 Fred Tuck 1 3 2 6
13 Williams Peel Godwin 79.0 3 3 41 37 5 Alec Peel 2 1 2 5
14 Greenwood Bravery Watson 77.8 3 3 44 40 6 Les Bowden 1 2 2 5
Billy Lamont was not happy at Sheffield and had been sacked as captain. He did not turn 7 George Dykes 2 1 3
up for this match. This was expected by Arthur Westwood however who very surprisingly 8 Geoff Godwin 1 1 2
managed to sign up Colin Watson with official approval. 40
LEEDS